Anna Glaessgen

Anna Glaessgen asked for a bridge to explain the pro forma EBITDA of roughly $30 million from Marine Products, given their most recent reported $17 million. She also inquired about specific MasterCraft practices that could be applied to Marine Products to improve its margin over time.

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Scott Kent, CFO, explained that the $30 million figure includes forward-looking projections, differences in EBITDA adjustments, and the immediate $6 million in corporate cost synergies. Brad Nelson, CEO, highlighted opportunities for sharing best practices across sourcing, manufacturing, and innovation platforms, leveraging added scale and diversity to drive margin gains. He also mentioned vertical integration opportunities in various pockets of the operations.

Anna Glaessgen sought clarification on the pro forma EBITDA calculation for the combined entity, specifically how Marine Products' $17 million reported EBITDA bridges to the $30 million implied in the $60 million combined EBITDA guidance. She also asked for details on how MasterCraft's operational practices could be applied to Marine Products to improve its margins over time.

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Scott Kent, Chief Financial Officer, explained that the difference accounts for Marine Products' forward-looking projections, typical EBITDA adjustments, and the immediate $6 million in cost synergies from eliminating public company and corporate overhead expenses. Brad Nelson, Chief Executive Officer, highlighted opportunities for sharing best practices across both front-end and back-end operations, including sourcing and manufacturing. He emphasized leveraging added scale and diversity to drive margin gains through innovation platforms and vertical integration, noting both companies already have strong operational excellence.

Anna Glaessgen from B. Riley Securities sought clarification on how wholesale units could increase in FY26 given the forecast for a retail decline and continued channel destocking. She also asked about the expected pacing of this destocking.

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CEO Brad Nelson explained that the significant inventory reduction in FY25 allows for wholesale growth in FY26. He characterized the planned FY26 destocking as a 'fine-tuning adjustment' to increase dealer turns amid market uncertainty, not a major reduction. CFO Scott Kent added that any destocking would be modest, spread throughout the year in response to retail trends, and not necessarily front-loaded in Q1.

Anna Glaessgen of B. Riley Securities inquired about MasterCraft's pricing strategy to counter tariff impacts, specifically asking if they would implement a flat increase or a more variable model.

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CEO Bradley Nelson explained that the company is actively modeling scenarios that could include both traditional price adjustments and a more variable pricing model to cover input costs, though no final decisions for model year 2026 have been made. CFO Timothy Oxley added that they have discussed the variable nature of tariff-related costs with dealers, noting that the potential temporary nature of tariffs supports a variable pricing approach.

Anna Glaessgen of B. Riley Securities asked for details on the company's pricing strategy in response to tariffs, specifically whether they would implement a consistent price hike or a more variable model, and if this had been discussed with dealers.

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CEO Bradley Nelson stated the company is proactively modeling various scenarios to balance volume, price, and cost. He indicated a move toward a more variable pricing model is likely, in addition to traditional price adjustments, to manage tariff volatility, though no final decisions have been made. CFO Timothy Oxley added that they have discussed the variable nature of these costs with dealers, noting that the potential temporary nature of tariffs lends itself to a variable pricing approach.

Anna Glaessgen asked if Brunswick anticipates pipeline replenishment where wholesale sales would exceed retail, or if the industry is settling into a new normal of lower inventory levels. She also sought clarification on the tariff math for 2026, specifically the implied step-up in the quarterly rate compared to 2025.

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Chairman and CEO David Foulkes stated that while not a "new normal," channel partners are becoming more confident due to lower carrying costs (reduced floor plan interest) and higher margins (lower discounting), leading to stronger pull-through. CFO Ryan Gwillim explained that the Q1 2026 tariff impact is higher because Q1 2025 had no tariffs, and subsequent 2025 tariffs (like 232 incremental impact in August) only affected the back half. He noted that the first half of 2026 will bear most incremental tariff costs, combined with accelerated product spending.

Anna Glaessgen asked about the conditions required for pipeline replenishment, where wholesale sales would exceed retail, and whether the current lower inventory levels represent a 'new normal' for the industry. She also sought clarification on the tariff math, specifically the step-up in quarterly tariff impact from 2025 ($75 million net) to 2026 (incremental $35-$45 million, with a majority in Q1), and if this was due to a mix shift towards propulsion.

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Chairman and CEO David Foulkes stated that current lower inventory is not necessarily a 'new normal,' but channel partners have been cautious. He noted improving sentiment, lower carrying costs for inventory due to interest rate reductions, and higher margins from reduced discounting as constructive factors. He also highlighted strong pull-through from channel partners in early 2026, evidenced by a stronger Q1 fill rate year-over-year. CFO Ryan Gwillim clarified the tariff math, explaining that Q1 2026 bears the brunt of incremental tariff costs because Q1 2025 had no material tariff impact, and subsequent 2025 tariffs (like the 232 incremental impact in August) only affected part of the year. He also mentioned accounting adjustments related to inventory valuations.

Anna Glaessgen asked for clarification on Navico Group's operating earnings, specifically if margins would have expanded excluding tariffs and variable compensation, and if further expansion is expected as these headwinds are lapped. She also inquired about the drivers of Brunswick's boat unit outperformance and expectations for 2026.

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CFO Ryan Gwillim confirmed that Navico's margins would have been up in the quarter absent tariffs and variable compensation reset. CEO David Foulkes added that Brunswick has invested heavily in differentiated innovation for Navico Group, such as AutoCaptain and Fathom, which will drive future benefits. Regarding boat units, Ryan Gwillim stated that Brunswick expects to outperform the industry in premium and core segments, with pipelines down across all segments entering 2026. He also noted potential for the value segment to benefit from interest rate reductions.

Anna Glaessgen with B. Riley Securities inquired about the expected cadence of boat margins, specifically if the back half of the fiscal year would see less pressure or positive year-over-year inflection, and also asked about the recent inflection in customer deposits and any potential lumpiness.

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CFO Michael McLamb confirmed that the March quarter would see similar margin pressure to the December quarter, with opportunities for modest boat margin expansion and consolidated gross margin improvement in the June and September quarters. He also noted that customer deposits being flat year-over-year was a positive sign, reflecting solid business trends without significant lumpiness from one-time large boat sales.

Anna Glaessgen questioned the expected cadence of boat margins within the guidance, specifically if pressure would persist through the second fiscal quarter and if an inflection to positive year-over-year margins is anticipated in the back half. She also asked about the recent inflection in customer deposits and any one-time factors.

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CFO Michael McLamb confirmed that the March quarter would see similar margin pressure, with opportunities for modest boat margin expansion in the June and September quarters. He highlighted that customer deposits being flat year-over-year is a positive sign, reflecting solid business trends without significant one-time factors.

Anna Glaessgen asked if the recent uncertainty has altered MarineMax's view on the broader retail recovery timeline and sought more color on the consumers who were driving the sales pickup in July.

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CFO Mike McLamb affirmed that their long-term view on the boating lifestyle's appeal has not changed, despite the current pause. CEO Brett McGill noted that the soft June quarter necessitates ongoing inventory recalibration with manufacturers. Regarding July, McGill highlighted that innovative new models continue to sell well and that the month did not suffer from the 'cliff effect' that hampered April.

Anna Glaessgen asked if there has been an increase in cancellations of existing orders and whether potential tariff-related price increases would primarily impact the next model year.

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Executive William McGill stated there has not been an increase in order cancellations. He also confirmed that current inventory levels will carry them through the season and that they are working with manufacturers to mitigate any potential price increases on future model year products. Executive Michael McLamb added that MarineMax has a history of successfully passing on necessary price increases in the premium segment.

Anna Glaessgen asked for clarification on the ammunition commentary, specifically the magnitude of its impact on the quarter's results, any seasonal aspects related to hunting season, and the potential for positive comparable sales given its stabilization post-election.

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CEO Steve Lawrence confirmed that while ammunition and firearms combined represent about 10% of the business (ammo roughly 5%), ammo can have an outsized impact. He attributed the Q3 sluggishness to anniversarying the traditional election run-up surge in demand from a year ago, which stabilized in November. Steve believes that even with ammo running at a high single-digit negative rate, the company could post positive comps if it doesn't worsen significantly. CFO Carl Ford specified that ammunition was a negative 130 basis points headwind to comparable sales in Q3, meaning the comp would have been positive 40 basis points without it.

Anna Glaessgen of B. Riley Securities asked if the apparel category, which was impacted by warm weather in Q3, has improved in Q4. She also inquired about the company's outlook on gaining market share from smaller competitors.

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CEO Steve Lawrence confirmed that apparel performance improved significantly with colder weather around Black Friday, leading sales during that key period. On market share, he stated their goal is to gain share across categories, noting they have held onto significant gains made since 2019. CFO Carl Ford added that the largest share opportunity comes from geographic expansion into new markets where they have no presence.

Anna Glaessgen asked about the rationale behind increasing marketing spend in Q4 despite external consumer headwinds and the expected efficiency of these marketing efforts. She also sought an update on the camping category's Q3 performance and the company's strategy for improving its consistency.

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Jennifer Fall Jung, CFO, explained that increased marketing spend is necessary to remain competitive in a highly promotional landscape, shifting towards digital and email, and focusing on firearms and ammo. She reported that the camping category was down high single digits in Q3, though inventory was down double digits, indicating an opportunity for assortment refinement. Paul Stone, CEO, added that camping inventory was significantly reduced to reallocate capital to fishing and hunting/shooting.

Anna Glaessgen asked about the drivers of Sportsman's Warehouse's positive comp store sales growth and the durability of this growth as the benefit from lapping out-of-stocks eases into 2026. She also inquired about the implied back-half margin improvement given tougher comps, asking for details on margin drivers and puts/takes.

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Paul Stone, President, CEO & Director, attributed comp growth to strategic alignment in hunting, shooting, fishing, and personal protection, along with inventory investments. He highlighted strong momentum in firearms and fishing, and the outperformance of personal protection. Jennifer Fall Jung, CFO, explained that back-half margins would be influenced by the lower margins of the hunt category (firearms/ammunition) and the reduced penetration of higher-margin fishing sales as the season progresses, in addition to Q4's promotional environment.

Inquired about the consumer trade-down in firearms as a potential market share opportunity, the current and future mix of the personal protection category, and whether the March slowdown was due to calendar shifts or broader consumer weakness from headlines like tariffs.

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The company views the firearm trade-down as an opportunity to gain share by being in-stock on value-oriented items, which has led to outperformance vs. NICS data. The personal protection category is currently about 25% of sales (mostly handguns/ammo) and is seen as a major growth opportunity. The March slowdown was attributed specifically to the strategic shift of ad campaigns due to the later Easter, not to a change in consumer behavior from tariff news.

Asked about the drivers of Q3 gross margin, the risk of heavy discounting in Q4 given inventory levels, and the company's exposure to tariffs.

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Executives attributed softer Q3 gross margin to product mix shift towards firearms and freight costs from inventory build. They expressed high confidence in meeting Q4 guidance without intense discounting. They confirmed that direct tariff exposure is minimal (under 3%) but they are monitoring indirect impacts.

Anna Glaessgen asked about Q3 gross margin performance, questioning if the refined merchandising strategy reduced clearance risk. She also inquired about the confidence level for the Q4 gross margin outlook and sought confirmation on the company's limited exposure to tariffs.

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CFO Jeff White attributed the softer-than-expected Q3 gross margin to a product mix shift toward lower-margin firearms and higher freight costs from a strategic inventory build. He expressed high confidence in achieving Q4 guidance without intense discounting. He also confirmed that direct tariff exposure via private brands is minimal, under 3% of sales, though they continue to monitor the impact on branded goods.

Anna Glaessgen of B. Riley Securities, noting the recent inventory cleanup, asked about the strategic investment in new inventory. She sought to understand the demand signals guiding these purchases and the guardrails in place to prevent becoming over-inventoried again.

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CFO Jeffrey White stated the investment focuses on the core '20% of SKUs that drive 80% of the sales,' an area they were unable to invest in last year. CEO Paul Stone added that this open-to-buy allows them to purchase seasonal holiday goods and special buys that 'scream value,' a key differentiator from last year's liquidation focus. He expressed confidence that this targeted inventory will turn by year-end, enabling them to meet their inventory guidance.

Anna Glaessgen from B. Riley Securities questioned whether the recent surge in new consignor growth was a temporary response to market factors like tariffs or a more permanent shift. She also asked for more specific details on the potential cost savings per unit as the Athena platform scales.

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President and CEO Rati Sahi Levesque asserted that the growth is not a 'one-time benefit,' as it's the second consecutive quarter of double-digit growth and is directly attributable to internal initiatives like the referral and Reconsign programs. CFO Ajay Gopal quantified Athena's impact by pointing to the 310 basis points of leverage on the ops and tech line in Q2 and reiterated the goal of taking out 'multiple dollars of cost on a per item basis' as it scales.

Anna Glaessgen of B. Riley Securities asked for a deeper analysis of the record gross margin, specifically the impact of the channel shift away from the direct-to-consumer business. She also inquired about the current scale and long-term contribution potential of the company's apparel business.

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CFO Curtiss Bruce confirmed that the record 40.4% gross margin was driven by a favorable mix of both higher-margin products and channels, including the strategic de-emphasis of the honest.com business. Regarding apparel, he highlighted its expected contribution in the second half of the year, driven by the award-winning 'Fam Jams' line, and noted its role in the strong Q4 performance anticipated in the company's full-year guidance.

Anna Glaessgen inquired about the consumption deceleration observed exiting Q1, asking if it was a broader category trend or specific to Honest. She also questioned whether the company is seeing any consumer trade-down from premium natural products due to macro uncertainty.

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CEO Carla Vernon clarified that the deceleration was largely isolated to their diaper business at Target, following a distribution change involving the removal of gendered prints. She contrasted this with nearly 20% consumption growth in the rest of the market. Vernon noted that while categories have slowed, Honest's 8% consumption growth significantly outpaced the competitive set's 1% decline, indicating resilient demand for their products, particularly in the sensitive skin segment.

Anna Glaessgen of B. Riley Securities asked for more perspective on 2025 gross margin expansion after lapping 2024's one-time benefits and questioned the margin difference between the company's DTC channel and third-party digital partners.

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CFO David Loretta explained that while some 2024 pricing benefits have been lapped, the cost savings from supply chain optimization are structural and ongoing. He noted that margin expansion in 2025 will be supported by a favorable product mix and the continued, deliberate shift away from the company's less efficient DTC channel towards more scalable retail partner platforms, which offer superior cost structures.

Anna Glaessgen from B. Riley Securities questioned the effectiveness of Amazon Prime Day for acquiring new customers versus serving existing ones and asked for an update on the company's sourcing exposure to China, particularly for its wipes category.

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CEO Carla Vernon confirmed that Prime Day is a powerful tool for acquiring new-to-brand shoppers, noting that strong performance on the platform boosts search rankings and drives trial. CFO David Loretta addressed the China sourcing risk, acknowledging that the wipes portfolio is sourced there. He stated the team is proactively working on diversification and cost-reduction plans to mitigate potential tariff impacts and does not expect a material impact in 2025.

Asked about the Adventure segment's strategy for balancing cost rationalization with growth initiatives like expanding vehicle fitments, the impact of promotional activities on domestic sales, and clarification on the reduction of discontinued merchandise sales in the Outdoor segment, particularly regarding PFAS inventory.

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The company is focusing on basics in the Adventure segment, such as increasing vehicle fits for top-selling models and creating a nimbler organizational structure. Promotional sales in Adventure were to clear out old inventory, which boosted revenue but dragged on margins. The reduction in discontinued Outdoor sales was indeed impacted by clearing less PFAS inventory this year, but is also part of a broader strategic shift towards a full-price model to improve margins and buffer against tariffs.

Anna Glaessgen of B. Riley Securities inquired about the Adventure segment's strategy, specifically balancing headcount rationalization with growth initiatives like expanding vehicle fitments. She also asked about recent promotional activities and sought clarity on the Outdoor segment's reduction in discontinued merchandise sales.

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CFO Michael J. Yates explained the Adventure segment is focusing on basics, such as increasing vehicle fits to 579 and rationalizing NPD for high-return projects. He noted promotional sales of older inventory impacted margins but improved cash flow. Neil Fiske, President of Black Diamond Equipment, confirmed that reduced PFAS clearance was a factor in lower discontinued sales but also highlighted a strategic shift towards a full-price model and a healthier overall inventory mix.

Asked for an update on the Adventure segment's U.S. distribution strategy after moving away from an off-price retailer, whether distribution gains are on hold due to tariffs, and how Black Diamond's recent price increases compare to competitors.

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The Adventure segment is no longer using the off-price channel and is instead focusing on specialty distribution, such as specialty auto rack and bicycle shops. Distribution is expanding, not on hold; bike rack doors have increased from 300 to 800, driven by the RockyMounts acquisition. Black Diamond believes it was one of the first in its industry to transparently raise prices to offset tariffs and expects competitors will have to follow suit.

Anna Glaessgen from B. Riley Securities asked for clarification on the Outdoor segment's path to double-digit EBITDA margins, the impact of tariff uncertainty on North American retail ordering, and the current inventory levels within the international distributor (IGD) business.

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CFO Michael J. Yates confirmed that the Outdoor segment is targeting a double-digit EBITDA margin on its guided $175 million revenue for the full year, with performance weighted to the second half. McNeil Fiske, President of Black Diamond, stated it was too early to see a material impact from tariff discussions on ordering but noted consumer sentiment has been 'a little bit rattled.' Both Yates and Fiske explained that IGD inventories are normalizing after lagging North America, with the business exceeding expectations in Q4.

Anna Glaessgen inquired about the indirect impact of tariffs within the bike business supply chain and asked for elaboration on the product mix improvements that contributed to margin performance.

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CEO Mike Dennison clarified that in the bike business, Fox delivers products to OEMs within Taiwan, so the direct tariff impact is more on their partners. He explained that product mix improvement is happening across all segments, driven by focusing innovation on higher-end, more profitable products and expanding the portfolio in categories like premium wheels, which helps the company pivot during volatile periods.

Anna Glaessgen from B. Riley Securities inquired about the automotive OEM business, specifically how conversations with partners are evolving regarding potential tariffs and production adjustments. She also asked if low double-digit growth is still the correct benchmark for the Marucci business in 2025.

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CEO Mike Dennison clarified that FOXF's premium truck partnerships (Ford, Toyota) are somewhat insulated, but consumer demand could be impacted by inflation from tariffs. He noted Stellantis is rebounding from 2024 lows. He affirmed that Marucci is expected to be a double-digit growth business in 2025, citing its record 2024 performance and new product pipeline.

Anna Glaessgen asked about the balance between implementing significant cost-saving measures and protecting the company's long-term growth story and innovation pipeline.

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CFO Dennis Schemm stated that after prolonged OEM uncertainty, the company is taking decisive action to improve margins through footprint consolidation, product portfolio optimization, and inventory reduction. CEO Mike Dennison added that returning to historical EBITDA margin levels strengthens the brand and positions the company for exponential growth when demand returns. An executive also noted that predictable margins enable continued investment in growth initiatives like the Marucci MLB partnership.

Anna Glaessgen asked about the strategy for allocating constrained inventory between the direct-to-consumer and wholesale channels, as well as allocation practices within the wholesale channel itself.

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Executive Matthew Reintjes described a multi-layered allocation strategy that is product-dependent rather than channel-biased. Decisions are based on supply levels, with some products launching internationally, others being constrained across all channels, and some being delayed to build sufficient stock. CFO Michael McMullen added that the company is using this period to learn how to operate with lower inventory levels going forward.

Anna Glaessgen from B. Riley Financial, Inc. inquired about the current retail environment, specifically asking if retailers are becoming more hesitant to take on inventory and for how long current inventory levels can sustain demand.

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CEO Jeremy Andrus stated they have not sensed a reluctance from retailers to take on inventory, though there has been a shift from direct import to domestic fulfillment to navigate tariff complexities. CFO Dom Blosil clarified that the company is planning inventory conservatively, reducing purchase orders to avoid a future destocking issue. He emphasized that current inventory on hand is sufficient for near-term demand, allowing them to pause new orders and react to demand signals during the peak season before re-ordering.

Anna Glaessgen inquired about the 2025 outlook for the accessories business, specifically MEATER, asking if an inflection point is expected during the year. She also asked about the normalization of advertising return on investment post-election and whether the projected Q1 decline is isolated to MEATER or affects other segments.

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CFO Dominic Blosil explained that the company is conservatively forecasting MEATER's performance and that any potential inflection would be upside to the current guidance. He noted it is too early to determine if advertising ROAS has normalized for MEATER, as Q1 is not a significant quarter for the brand. Blosil clarified that the anticipated Q1 decline is reflective of multiple segments, driven by uncertainty in order pacing related to potential tariffs, which complicates quarter-to-quarter predictions.

Anna Glaessgen asked for clarification on the implied Q4 guidance for grills and questioned the current competitive landscape for wood pellets.

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CFO Dom Blosil confirmed that Q4 grill growth is expected to moderate from Q3's strong performance but will remain positive, driven by strong sell-through and retail replenishment. CEO Jeremy Andrus added that the competitive landscape for pellets has not shifted meaningfully, and Traeger's vertical integration and brand loyalty provide a strong defense against private label and other brands.

Asked about the strategic balance and growth timeline for DTC versus wholesale channels, the build-out of the retail team, the company's new promotional strategy, and the performance of the Chubbies brand.

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The executive detailed plans to accelerate retail growth, supported by an expanded team and a new 130-store test, while stabilizing DTC in the first half of 2025 and returning it to growth in the second half, driven by a new website and product innovation. Regarding promotions, the long-term goal is to be less promotional, but they will be very promotional in Q4 to drive sales, which is factored into guidance. The Chubbies brand is performing very well, growing, and is a key part of the company's dual-platform strategy.

Asked about retailer appetite for the Chubbies brand and whether there are signs of consumer trade-down within the Solo Stove product mix.

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Retailer demand for Chubbies remains strong, with key partners like DICK's Sporting Goods expanding the brand's presence and product categories. For Solo Stove, average order value is holding up despite macro pressures due to a successful bundling strategy, which offers value to consumers without eroding margins like simple discounting would.

Asked about the outlook for the outdoor retail market in 2024, brand positioning in the mass channel, and the potential impact of a weak snow season on Q4 results.

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Executives acknowledged headwinds in specialty outdoor retail but are offsetting them with strong D2C and mass channel performance. They see continued momentum for their brands in the mass channel. The impact from a weak snow season is expected to be minimal for Q4 as it's a small part of the business and the main sell-in period has passed.