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    Brian Butler's questions to Karat Packaging Inc (KRT) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Karat Packaging Inc (KRT) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler asked about the 2025 growth outlook for different sales channels, the sources of market share gains including the supermarket sector, and the expectations for cash flow and capital expenditures.

    Answer

    CEO Alan Yu stated that growth in the distributor channel is being driven by California's styrofoam ban, forecasting a 400% increase in plastic container sales. He also cited vendor consolidation and a shift from plastic to paper bags by national chains as key growth drivers. He confirmed supermarket growth is included in the guidance. For capital allocation, Alan Yu noted a planned $5 million expenditure, primarily for 15-20 new trucks to expand the company's fleet and reduce operational costs. CFO Jian Guo added that the 2025 free cash flow conversion ratio is expected to be consistent with 2024.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Karat Packaging Inc (KRT) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler followed up on the growth outlook, asking for early thoughts on 2025 revenue growth and whether it could return to double digits. He also asked about the trajectory of operating costs, particularly online platform fees, capital spending expectations needed to support growth, and requested an update on the status and impact of the data breach reported in the third quarter.

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    Executive Alan Yu stated that based on the current trajectory, he expects to see double-digit growth in Q1 2025, returning the company to its historical growth path. He described increased online advertising costs as a necessary investment to grow online sales significantly next year. He noted that capital expenditures would be minimal, with the main exception being a potential new distribution center in the Southeast. Regarding the data breach, he reported that an initial investigation found no material breach or monetary damages, and the costs incurred were 'very nominal.'

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    Brian Butler's questions to GFL Environmental Inc (GFL) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to GFL Environmental Inc (GFL) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler asked for the expected pricing cadence throughout 2025 and inquired about what management views as the biggest challenges for the upcoming year.

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    Executive Luke Pelosi outlined a pricing cadence starting in the high-5% range in Q1, moving to mid-5% in Q2/Q3, and ending in the low-5% range, blending to the 5.25%-5.5% full-year guide. CEO Patrick Dovigi stated he sees no material challenges, noting the business is very predictable. He mentioned potential tariff noise as the only unknown, but believes the impact would be de minimis, possibly affecting capital costs which would be addressed with more pricing.

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    Brian Butler's questions to GFL Environmental Inc (GFL) leadership • Q2 2024

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    Brian Butler asked about the expected timeline for the Environmental Services (ES) auction, the M&A spending outlook for 2025, and current trends in commercial service intervals.

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    CEO Patrick Dovigi stated the goal is to complete the ES sale process quickly, hopefully within calendar 2024, noting the main gating item is preparing carve-out financials. For 2025 M&A, he projected a potential spend of $850 million to $1 billion, with an ES sale providing 'ultimate flexibility' for more. He also confirmed that in the commercial business, service upgrades are still outpacing downgrades.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Enviri Corp (NVRI) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Enviri Corp (NVRI) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler questioned the steel production assumptions embedded in the 2025 guidance for Harsco Environmental and the segment's potential revenue in a normalized environment. He also asked about opportunities in PFAS treatment for Clean Earth and the expected performance cadence for the Rail business in 2025.

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    Chairman and CEO F. Grasberger responded that the 2025 guidance assumes overall steel volume growth of 1-2%, driven by India and the Middle East, with other regions flat. He estimated a normalized environment could add $100-$200 million in revenue to Harsco Environmental. Regarding PFAS, he confirmed Enviri is active but has not built substantial revenue into its three-year plan. For the Rail segment's 2025 cadence, he advised modeling the last three quarters evenly after accounting for Q1 guidance.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Enviri Corp (NVRI) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler requested details on the timeline and ultimate cash generation of the Rail ETO contracts, the financial impact of hurricane-related shipment delays, and the outlook for Clean Earth's momentum into 2025.

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    CEO Nick Grasberger outlined that smaller Rail ETO contracts will turn cash-positive by $20-$25 million next year, with two larger contracts generating approximately $75 million in free cash flow in late 2026-2028. He estimated the hurricane's EBITDA impact was a few million dollars. He also affirmed that Clean Earth's positive momentum is expected to carry into 2025, aided by anticipated volume growth.

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    Brian Butler's questions to LKQ Corp (LKQ) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to LKQ Corp (LKQ) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler requested an update on the strategic portfolio review's timeline and potential decisions, and also asked about the long-term margin opportunity in Europe beyond 2025.

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    President and CEO Justin Jude confirmed the portfolio review is ongoing, noting the divestiture of five businesses in 2024, and stated he would report on further actions once completed. CFO Rick Galloway expressed a bullish outlook on European margins, expecting them to continue growing for the next several years by 30-40 basis points annually, driven by category and portfolio management, and declined to put a cap on the potential improvement.

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    Brian Butler's questions to LKQ Corp (LKQ) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler questioned the basis for management's confidence that macroeconomic pressures would ease in 2025 and the expected timing of such a recovery. He also asked how LKQ maintained its $850 million free cash flow guidance, inquiring about what capital spending was deferred and if it would return in 2025.

    Answer

    CEO Justin Jude linked the 2025 recovery confidence to the expectation that used car pricing will moderate and begin to improve in the latter half of 2025, making vehicle repairs more economical. CFO Rick Galloway explained that the free cash flow target was maintained primarily through disciplined trade working capital management. He clarified that capital spending cuts were not delays of necessary projects but rather the elimination of projects that no longer meet new, stricter internal hurdle rates, and are therefore unlikely to return.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Clean Harbors Inc (CLH) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Clean Harbors Inc (CLH) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler of Stifel inquired about the company's oil collection strategy, specifically if they are over or under-collecting relative to capacity, and asked for a refresh on the size and potential timing of the captive incinerator market opportunity.

    Answer

    Co-CEO Mike Battles stated the company is not overcollecting; in fact, they are losing some gallons due to their aggressive 'charge-for-oil' pricing stance, which is a deliberate strategy. Co-CEO Eric Gerstenberg added that this opportunity is not in their Vision 2027 plan. He sized the market at 41 active captive incinerators, with about 20 having a probability of making a strategic change. He sees active opportunities with a few of them over the next 3 to 5 years, driven by regulations and cost pressures.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Clean Harbors Inc (CLH) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler questioned the pricing dynamics in the SKSS segment, asking if Group II base oil was being sold at a significant discount to published spot prices. He also asked when the Group III and BP Castrol initiatives would become material contributors and requested the year-to-date PFAS revenue.

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    Co-CEO Michael Battles confirmed that the market price for base oil is 'completely disconnected' from and significantly lower than published prices. He stated that the benefits from Group III production are already being realized as an internal cost saving, and the BP Castrol partnership is expected to gain 'real momentum in 2025.' Co-CEO Eric Gerstenberg provided the PFAS revenue figure, stating it's on an '$80 million to $90 million run rate' for the year.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Hillman Solutions Corp (HLMN) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Hillman Solutions Corp (HLMN) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler requested details on the MinuteKey 3.5 rollout cadence through 2026, the composition of the 2.5% new business growth expected in 2025, and an update on the M&A environment.

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    CEO Jon Adinolfi explained the MinuteKey 3.5 rollout would be more heavily indexed to 2026 but would see a steady flow in 2025. He detailed that the 2.5% new business growth is broad-based, heavily weighted to the HPS segment, with wins in fasteners, work gear, and rope/chain, plus opportunities for the Intex business. On M&A, Adinolfi noted the environment hasn't changed dramatically, but Hillman has 'more irons in the fire' and is excited about several potential deals.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Hillman Solutions Corp (HLMN) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler asked about the price-to-cost spread trend in the third quarter and its outlook for Q4 and 2025. He also requested an update on the service opportunities that arose from the Redbox liquidation.

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    CEO Doug Cahill explained that the price/cost dynamic was a slight headwind in Q3 and will likely remain so in the first half of 2025 due to earlier price givebacks. He noted that while some commodity costs may ease, other costs like labor and rent are rising, necessitating a strategic review of future pricing actions. Regarding Redbox, Cahill confirmed they have secured and initiated two new service contracts with other kiosk operators, which are profitable and will contribute positively in 2025.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Republic Services Inc (RSG) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Republic Services Inc (RSG) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler asked for the capital spending associated with the 2025 sustainability initiatives and the remaining opportunity beyond 2025. He also inquired about the primary strategic risks facing the company.

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    CFO Brian DelGhiaccio clarified that 2025 spending includes ~$75 million in CapEx for wholly-owned Polymer Centers and ~$100 million in investing cash flow for JV partnerships. CEO Jon Vander Ark identified the broader macro environment as the main external risk, while internally, the top priority remains safety.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Republic Services Inc (RSG) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler from Stifel inquired about the trend of Republic's internal cost inflation compared to headline CPI and asked about the capital spending outlook for 2025 associated with sustainability and technology initiatives.

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    CEO Jon Vander Ark reported that internal cost inflation is trending down, with labor at about 4.5%, and expects continued modest deceleration into 2025. CFO Brian DelGhiaccio explained that 2025 capital spending for initiatives like polymer centers and EVs would be relatively consistent with 2024, with no major change expected to CapEx as a percentage of revenue.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Casella Waste Systems Inc (CWST) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Casella Waste Systems Inc (CWST) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler of Stifel asked about the expected price-cost spread for 2025 and the underlying inflation assumption. He also questioned how much of the flat-to-down volume guidance for 2025 is attributable to shedding underperforming assets versus other weakness. Finally, he inquired about the company's strategy for managing PFAS at its landfills.

    Answer

    CFO Bradford Helgeson indicated they expect internal inflation around 4% and are targeting pricing of approximately 5% to achieve a positive spread of 100 basis points. He clarified that the volume decline is entirely due to intentional customer churn in newly acquired businesses, particularly in the Mid-Atlantic, to improve revenue quality and margins. CEO John Casella described a proactive PFAS strategy, highlighting two operational treatment facilities using reverse osmosis and foam fractionation to find the most cost-effective solution for their landfill network.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Casella Waste Systems Inc (CWST) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler questioned the C&D landfill volume situation, asking what might prevent the lost tonnage from returning and if its recovery is factored into the 2025 EBITDA guidance. He also requested more color on the $600 million M&A pipeline's composition and the current competitive landscape for deals.

    Answer

    President Ned Coletta explained that while a portion of the lost C&D volume went to another competitor, they expect the vast majority to return in 2025. CFO Bradford Helgeson confirmed this volume recovery is factored into the 12-15% EBITDA growth outlook. Coletta and CEO John Casella described the M&A pipeline as a healthy mix of smaller tuck-ins and larger deals in adjacent markets, noting that most deals are sourced through long-standing relationships rather than competitive auctions.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Waste Management Inc (WM) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Waste Management Inc (WM) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler of Stifel asked about the quarterly cadence for the $190 million of incremental sustainability EBITDA and inquired about the company's strategy for locking in long-term RIN pricing contracts amid potential volatility.

    Answer

    EVP and CFO Devina Rankin detailed that the RNG contribution would be more back-end weighted as new plants come online, while the recycling portion would be more evenly distributed. On RINs, she explained that the team opportunistically locked in about 50% of 2025 sales and is proactively working toward a multi-year hedging strategy, balancing sales to the compliance and voluntary markets.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Waste Management Inc (WM) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler inquired about the company's EBITDA sensitivity to commodity prices following the automation upgrades and asked for the number of remaining routes eligible for automation.

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    SVP & Chief Sustainability Officer Tara Hemmer explained that with 60% of automation benefits being independent of commodity prices (e.g., labor savings), the sensitivity is reduced but still exists. EVP & COO John Morris stated that approximately 1,100 more routes are eligible for automation, a process expected to take two to three years, with timing dependent on contract cycles.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Greif Inc (GEF) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Greif Inc (GEF) leadership • Q4 2024

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    Brian Butler asked for details on the organic growth assumptions for the new reporting segments within the low-end fiscal 2025 guidance and confirmed if any savings from the $100 million program were included.

    Answer

    CFO Larry Hilsheimer provided specific organic growth assumptions for the low-end guidance: approximately 8% in URB/CRB, 4% in tubes and cores, 2-5% in containerboard, roughly 3% in plastics, and a low-single-digit decline in Metal Solutions. Management also confirmed that the fiscal 2025 guidance includes zero contribution from the new $100 million cost savings initiative.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Greif Inc (GEF) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler asked what specific macroeconomic conditions are needed to achieve the potential $160 million EBITDA uplift from a return to normalized 2022 volumes. He also questioned the implementation timeline for the new operating model and its potential short-term impact on sales or costs. Finally, he asked about the organic growth outlook for the polymer business.

    Answer

    CFO Larry Hilsheimer stated that a significant macroeconomic step-up is required, as current volumes remain well below 2022 levels despite recent gains. CEO Ole Rosgaard added that lower interest rates would be a major catalyst, stimulating housing and other key end markets. Larry Hilsheimer confirmed the new operating model will be effective November 1, with about $6-7 million in associated implementation costs. Ole Rosgaard highlighted that the shift to polymers is driven by higher margins and lower cyclicality, and is being supported by organic growth, such as new plant openings in Malaysia and Turkey.

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    Brian Butler's questions to Purecycle Technologies Inc (PCT) leadership

    Brian Butler's questions to Purecycle Technologies Inc (PCT) leadership • Q3 2024

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    Brian Butler asked about the production level needed to meet the commercial ramp by Q3 2025, the expected economics for non-compounded products, the capital requirements for Augusta, and the outlook for Q4 operating cash burn.

    Answer

    CEO Dustin Olson estimated that by mid-2025, production would need to be at or above 50% of Ironton's capacity. He reiterated prior guidance that 40-50% utilization is needed for plant-level breakeven. CFO Jaime Vasquez projected Q4 operating cash burn to be similar to or slightly better than Q3's level of around $8 million per month, as non-recurring maintenance costs decrease.

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