Question · Q3 2025
Douglas Leggate asked about Valero's extraordinary throughput performance, questioning if there's a shift in how the business is run, such as just-in-time turnarounds or the use of AI/machine learning, and if this sustainability could extend to the broader industry. He also sought clarification on the translation of earnings to cash flow, specifically why strong earnings didn't fully reflect in cash flow, inquiring about transitory issues or cash tax.
Answer
Greg Bram, Vice President, explained that the journey for improved turnaround planning has been ongoing for a decade, yielding benefits. He expressed cautious optimism about AI for further availability improvements, noting Valero's advantage with high-quality operational data collected over many years. Homer Bhullar, Vice President, Investor Relations and Finance, clarified that the discrepancy in cash flow was partly due to Production Tax Credits (PTC) being booked in earnings but paid later, appearing as a deduction from net cash flow from operations, with no substantial temporary tax issues.