Question · Q4 2025
Emily Lee asked for confirmation on REBL book refinancings, specifically if they involved entirely new partners, additional equity, and the comparison of new versus old interest rates. She then requested an update on the plan for The Aubrey property, following previous indications of seeking clarity within 30-60 days. Emily Lee also inquired about the implications of fintechs obtaining their own bank charters, asking if it poses a threat to The Bancorp's partnerships or presents new opportunities. Finally, she sought clarification on the specific economics of The Bancorp's off-balance sheet deposits and sweep program, including revenue generation and the expectation for future incremental deposit growth.
Answer
CFO Dominic Canuso confirmed some REBL refinancings were with new partners and some were recapitalizations, noting that properties were in stronger positions and experienced a slight yield step-down due to lower interest rates, with CEO Damian Kozlowski emphasizing stronger sponsorships. For The Aubrey, CFO Dominic Canuso highlighted benefits from stabilization investments, doubled available rooms, and consistent 80% occupancy, expecting cash flow break-even in Q2. Director of Investor Relations Andres Viroslav mentioned seeking broader exit opportunities for a stabilized property to maximize value, with CEO Damian Kozlowski noting a reappraisal over $50 million and a clear path to full occupancy. Regarding fintech charters, CEO Damian Kozlowski explained that many partners will not pursue licenses, and for others, valuation and oversight are deterrents, stressing The Bancorp's scalable, low-cost middle office platform and concluding no major impact is expected. On off-balance sheet deposits, CFO Dominic Canuso reiterated that the program currently optimizes funding and increases net interest margin, but is expected to become a revenue generator with larger volumes of lower-cost deposits, with CEO Damian Kozlowski adding that this strategy contributes to a very liquid position and downward pressure on deposit costs.
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