Jeff Meuler

Jeff Meuler asked Philip Moyer about his confidence in McGraw Hill spending at appropriate levels to fully harness AI opportunities while continuing to expand margins. He also inquired about the potential impact of proposed federal education policy changes, government shutdowns, and federal student aid disbursement.

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Philip Moyer, President and CEO, expressed confidence in the development teams' efficiency and effectiveness, noting the record number of AI tools released and the internal use of AI. Simon Allen, Chair of the Board of Directors, stated that federal policy changes, government shutdowns, and student aid disbursement have had no material impact on the business, emphasizing McGraw Hill's direct relationships with schools and the essential nature of its products.

Jeff Meuler asked President and CEO, Philip Moyer, about his confidence in McGraw Hill spending at the appropriate level to fully harness AI opportunities while continuing margin expansion. He also inquired about any material impact from proposed federal education policy changes, government shutdowns, or federal student aid disbursement.

Answer

President and CEO, Philip Moyer, expressed confidence in the development teams' efficiency and effectiveness, highlighting the record number of AI tools released and the company's digital-first culture. Chair of the Board of Directors, Simon Allen, stated that McGraw Hill has experienced no material impact from federal education policy changes, government shutdowns, or student aid issues, emphasizing the company's direct engagement with schools and the essential nature of its products.

Jeff Meuler asked about the mix of K-12 opportunities in 2027 by state and subject, and whether these opportunities increasingly play to McGraw Hill's strengths. He also inquired about where emerging AI-first entrants are predominantly seen, specifically if they are more in the supplemental or intervention side, or if they are starting to appear in the RFP process for core curriculum.

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Bob Sallmann, EVP and CFO, reiterated that McGraw Hill is well-positioned for the larger K-12 opportunities in 2027 (math) and 2028 (ELA), playing to its strengths in ELA and math with new products like Emerge. Simon Allen, Chairman, President, and CEO, noted that AI-first entrants are increasingly appearing in RFPs, but also that school districts understand the added value of McGraw Hill's supplemental intervention tools like ALEKS and Writing Assistant, which provide continuity and complete solutions alongside core offerings.

Jeff Meuler inquired about emerging AI-first entrants, asking where McGraw Hill predominantly sees them – more in the supplemental or intervention side, or if they are entering the RFP process for core curriculum.

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Simon Allen, Chairman, President, and CEO, stated that AI-first entrants are increasingly seen in RFPs. However, he noted that teachers and school districts are recognizing the added value of McGraw Hill's supplemental and intervention tools (like Alex for math and Writing Assistant for ELA) and are seeking continuity with core products. This creates an opportunity for McGraw Hill to provide complete solutions, extending its potential beyond just core offerings.

Jeff Meuler inquired about the strategic importance of Capital IQ (Cap IQ) within Market Intelligence, focusing on its product integrations and impact on cross-sales beyond the traditional desktop offering.

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Martina Cheung, President and CEO, highlighted that the Capital IQ desktop represents approximately 6% of S&P Global's enterprise revenue. She emphasized ongoing investments to accelerate the deployment of AI-enabled capabilities and unique content across the desktop, which is highly valued by customers. Key integrations, such as single sign-on with Visible Alpha and With Intelligence products, create crucial interconnectedness within the platform. The true value of products like Capital IQ Pro is realized when combined with S&P Global's unique data, exemplified by Document Intelligence integration with Salesforce. She also noted that Ratings analysts are the largest power users of Capital IQ Pro, underscoring its internal strategic importance.

Jeff Meuler asked about the strategic importance of Capital IQ within Market Intelligence, its product integrations, and how it impacts cross-sales, extending beyond its traditionally reported desktop function.

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Martina Cheung, President and Chief Executive Officer, highlighted that desktop products, including Capital IQ, represent about 6% of enterprise revenue. She emphasized ongoing investments in AI-enabled capabilities and unique content, such as single sign-on integrations with Visible Alpha and With Intelligence, which create important interconnectedness. She noted that Capital IQ Pro's value is maximized when used with S&P Global's unique data, citing strong user reception for enhancements like Document Intelligence integration with Salesforce.

Jeff Meuler asked about S&P Global's revenue sensitivity to IPO volumes, whether the impact is material enough to be seen in numbers, and the potential impact of a government shutdown on Q4.

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Eric Aboaf, CFO and EVP, explained that revenue sensitivity to IPO volumes is primarily in Market Intelligence, specifically in volumetric and transactional usage revenues. He noted that non-subscription transaction revenue growth in MI was 13% and recurring variable revenue was up 11% in Q3, particularly in Enterprise Solutions, indicating that increased IPOs broadly help the franchise.

Jeff Meuler asked about S&P Global's revenue sensitivity to IPO volumes, particularly with a backlog building into 2026, and whether the materiality of this impact rises to a level seen in the numbers, especially for Market Intelligence.

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Eric Aboaf, CFO and EVP, stated that IPO volume sensitivity is primarily in Market Intelligence, specifically in volumetric and transactional usage revenues. He noted that as capital markets accelerated in Q3, MI's non-subscription transaction revenue grew 13% and recurring variable revenue was up 11%, particularly in Enterprise Solutions with usage metering. Broader IPO activity also helps the franchise generally through more debt and equity issuances.

Jeff Meuler asked for clarification on the Mobility segment's revenue guidance, which was trimmed at the high end for a second consecutive quarter, questioning if recall activity remains the primary headwind.

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Interim CFO Christopher Craig confirmed that the segment's core subscription business is performing very well, with low double-digit growth. He stated that the primary headwind continues to be lower transactional revenue from the recall business. He noted this will create an easier year-over-year comparison for the segment in 2025.

Jeff Meuler asked about the applicability of Agentic AI to Equifax's employment and income business, considering the manual market, potential opportunities, and risks. He also inquired about the Workforce Solutions (EWS) margin outlook, including specific investments or headwinds like revenue share on data partnerships.

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Mark Begor, Chief Executive Officer, emphasized the strong proprietary data moat around Equifax's TWN and credit data, making it inaccessible to external AI tools. He highlighted AI opportunities in the employer business (I-9, unemployment claims) to boost productivity, speed, and accuracy, projecting $75 million in cost savings over 2-3 years from internal AI operations. Regarding EWS margins, Mr. Begor expressed satisfaction with the 75 basis points margin expansion (ex-FICO) and EWS EBITDA margins above 50%, noting continued investments in new products (government, Twin Indicator), technology, and AI capabilities to sustain double-digit revenue growth. John Gamble, Chief Financial Officer, added that the 2026 guidance aligns with the long-term model of EWS outgrowing the company, with increasing margins across USIS and International, and leverage on corporate expenses.

Jeff Meuler asked about the applicability of Agentic AI to Equifax's employment and income business, considering the manual nature of the market, and inquired about the EWS margin outlook, including specific investments or potential headwinds like data partnership revenue share.

Answer

CEO Mark Begor emphasized the strong moat around Equifax's proprietary data, making it inaccessible to external AI tools. He highlighted AI opportunities in employer services for productivity, speed, and accuracy, projecting $75 million in internal operational savings over 2-3 years. Regarding EWS margins, Begor expressed satisfaction with the 75 basis points margin expansion (ex-FICO) and EWS's 50%+ EBITDA margins, noting continued investments in new products, technology, and AI to maintain double-digit revenue growth. CFO John Gamble added that the 2026 guidance aligns with the long-term model of holding EWS margins while driving up USIS and International margins.

Jeff Meuler inquired about the latest feedback on mortgage pricing changes, specifically from the MBA conference, and the current activity regarding client conversions to VantageScore. He also sought clarification on the margin guidance, particularly the reduction in USIS margin guidance, questioning how it aligns with prior commentary about flowing through mortgage-driven upside.

Answer

Mark Begor, Chief Executive Officer, noted a 'groundswell of attention' due to FICO's price increase and Equifax's competitive offer, confirming active client engagement and momentum for VantageScore conversions. John Gamble, Chief Financial Officer, explained that the near-term negative impact on USIS and total Equifax margins is primarily due to higher variable compensation reflecting stronger overall performance, and a higher mix of mortgage revenue. He reiterated the intent to flow through 100% of variable profit to shareholders, evidenced by increased profitability and cash flow guidance.

Jeff Meuler asked for more details on mortgage pricing changes, including feedback from the MBA conference, and the activity around VantageScore 4.0 conversion. He also inquired about the margin guidance, specifically the reduction in USIS margin guidance, and how it aligns with the expectation of flowing through mortgage-driven upside, considering higher incentive compensation.

Answer

CEO Mark Begor noted a 'groundswell of attention' to FICO's price increase and Equifax's competitive VantageScore offer, indicating active customer engagement. CFO John Gamble explained that the near-term USIS margin impact and overall Equifax margins were due to higher variable compensation reflecting stronger performance and a higher mix of mortgage revenue, which negatively impacts gross margins in the period but contributes to overall profitability and cash flow.

Jeff Meuler asked about the expected contract value (CV) acceleration in 2026, specifically if it extends beyond the lessening federal government headwind, and inquired about leading indicator KPIs like in-quarter renewal rates.

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CFO Craig Safian and CEO Gene Hall confirmed that CV acceleration is expected throughout 2026 and into 2027, driven by transformation programs, not just the federal government. Gene Hall highlighted positive leading indicators such as significantly improved conference scores, rising client engagement, and higher renewal rates for clients using Ask Gartner, though full benefits will take 12-24 months to materialize.

Jeff Meuler asked about upselling and downselling trends, excluding the federal government, and whether leading indicators for upselling to existing clients are showing improvement.

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Chairman and CEO Gene Hall noted a modest improvement in the overall selling environment, particularly for new sales to new enterprises, while upselling existing enterprises remained the most challenged area. CFO Craig Safian added that client engagement metrics, such as document readership, one-on-one conversations, and conference attendance/ratings, are all up significantly, serving as positive leading indicators for future demand and upsell. He also highlighted an improvement in in-quarter contract renewal rates from Q2 to Q3.

Jeff Meuler asked about upselling and downselling trends, excluding the U.S. federal government, and whether improvements are being seen or if elevated seat-based churn is a challenge for the expected 2026 CV acceleration. He also followed up on leading indicators for upselling to existing clients.

Answer

Gene Hall (Chairman and CEO, Gartner) stated that the selling environment has modestly improved, particularly for new sales to new enterprises, but upselling existing enterprises has been the most challenging area. Craig Safian (CFO, Gartner) added that client engagement (documents read, one-on-one conversations, conference attendance/ratings) is up significantly, serving as a leading indicator for future demand and upsell, and noted that in-quarter retention rates improved from Q2 to Q3.

Jeff Meuler asked to compare the value proposition of using FICO scores in the conforming mortgage market versus the non-conforming market, particularly given the GSE guarantee in the conforming market.

Answer

CEO Will Lansing challenged the notion that credit risk is less important in the conforming market due to GSE guarantees. He emphasized that mortgage originators still care about credit and prepayment risk because GSEs can put loans back to them. He concluded that both markets will seek the most predictive score for understanding default and prepayment risks.

Jeff Meuler asked FICO to compare and contrast the value proposition of staying on FICO in the conforming versus non-conforming mortgage markets, particularly given less default risk to security holders in conforming mortgages.

Answer

CEO Will Lansing challenged the notion that credit risk is less important in the conforming market due to GSE guarantees. He asserted that mortgage originators still care about credit and prepayment risk because GSEs can put loans back to them if documentation issues arise. He concluded that both markets will seek the most predictive score and the best understanding of risks.

Asked about the typical lag time between ACV bookings and ARR recognition and for clarification on the foreign exchange impact on platform ARR.

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There is typically a 6 to 12-month lag between when a deal is booked and when it is implemented and begins generating ARR. The 3% foreign exchange headwind on platform ARR was a year-over-year impact on a constant currency basis.

Jeff Meuler from Baird asked about the company's partnership strategy, particularly regarding opportunities with HCM SaaS providers and other historically underexploited partner categories.

Answer

CEO Hugo Sarrazin described his vision for an expansive partner ecosystem that includes HCM providers but also extends to a rich network of 'sell through' and 'sell with' partners. He sees this as a significant, largely untapped opportunity to increase platform stickiness and value. However, he cautioned that building this ecosystem will take time, with material impact not expected until 2026 or later.

Jeff Meuler questioned the reason for the growth deceleration in the Champions program and asked for clarification on a $4 million reserve adjustment mentioned by management.

Answer

CEO Paul Thompson stated there were no specific unusual factors for Champions and reiterated confidence in its long-term double-digit growth potential. CFO Anthony Amandi explained the $4 million reserve adjustment was not operationally related but a matter of timing, with some adjustments expected in Q4 occurring in Q3.