Jim Ricchiuti

Jim Ricchiuti from Needham & Company asked if the decision to provide full-year 2026 growth targets was due to improved market visibility or increased confidence in the company's transformational changes. He also inquired about the investment strategy for these changes, specifically if it would involve additional spending or a reallocation of resources, and requested the network gross margin for the quarter.

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CFO Dan Schumacher clarified that the full-year 2026 GAAP revenue growth target of 6%-8% was shared due to the strong 11% year-over-year growth in Q4 2025 and the ongoing transformational changes, providing helpful guidance to investors despite not having better full-year visibility. He stated that investments would primarily be a reallocation of resources, with efforts to eliminate costs in some areas and reinvest in others to drive transformational change and growth, without expecting margin expansion for the full year. Schumacher confirmed the network gross margin for the quarter was 30.3%.

Jim Ricchiuti asked about the decision to provide full-year growth targets, which is not standard practice, questioning if it reflects better visibility into opportunities or increased confidence in the ongoing changes. He also inquired about the nature of investments required for the strategic changes, specifically if additional investments are anticipated or if it's a reallocation of resources. Finally, he asked for the network gross margin for the quarter.

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Dan Schumacher, Chief Financial Officer, stated that providing full-year guidance was intended to be helpful to investors, given the 11% year-over-year growth in Q4 and the transformational changes underway, rather than indicating better full-year visibility. He confirmed that investments would primarily be a reallocation of resources, with costs being eliminated in some areas and reinvested in others to drive transformational change and growth, without expecting margin expansion for the full year. Mr. Schumacher reported the network gross margin for the quarter was 30.3%.

Jim Ricchiuti asked for an update on the progress of the Mexico site and the pipeline for additional locations in the region. He also sought clarification on Fox Robotics' customer base, specifically if they sell to Symbotic's large customer and if their engagements are primarily pilots.

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CEO Rick Cohen reported that the Mexico site is progressing well, with installation imminent within the next 12 months, and significant opportunities for multiple sites in Mexico and other Central/South American countries. He confirmed that Fox Robotics does sell to Symbotic's large customer, and their engagements are mostly pilots. Mr. Cohen highlighted Fox's broader customer base, including CPG manufacturers, as an opportunity to introduce Symbotic's solutions and build credibility.

Jim Ricchiuti asked for an update on the progress of the Mexico site and the pipeline for securing additional locations in the region. He also inquired whether Fox Robotics sells to Symbotic's large customer and if their engagements are primarily pilots.

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CEO Rick Cohen reported good progress on the Mexico site, with installation expected within the next 12 months, and sees significant opportunities for multiple sites in Mexico and other Central/South American countries. He confirmed that Fox Robotics does sell to Symbotic's large customer, primarily through pilots, and also has other customers (e.g., CPG manufacturers) who are not currently Symbotic customers, which presents an opportunity for expansion.

Jim Ricchiuti with Needham & Company inquired about TTM Technologies' progress in expanding data center capacity in China and the ramp-up of new capacity at the Syracuse facility. He also asked for clarification on the drivers of gross margin improvement and the specific impact of headwinds from Penang.

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President and CEO Edwin Roks confirmed good progress on capacity expansion in both China and the U.S., stating that current investments support the 15%-20% growth target for the next three years. He noted that Syracuse is on track for first revenues in the second half of the year. EVP and CFO Dan Bailey explained that Q4 gross margin improvement was primarily due to favorable product mix in data center computing, networking, and A&D, despite a 180 basis point headwind from Penang, which is expected to improve throughout the year. Roks added that Penang's revenues doubled quarter-over-quarter and yields are improving.

Jim Ricchiuti inquired about TTM Technologies' capacity expansion for data centers in China and the progress of the Syracuse Diamond facility ramp-up. He also asked for clarification on the drivers behind the improved gross margins and the specific headwind from the Penang facility.

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President and CEO Edwin Roks confirmed excellent progress on capacity expansion in both China and the U.S., stating that capacity is not an issue for the projected 15%-20% growth. He noted that Syracuse Diamond is on track for first revenues in the second half of the year. EVP and CFO Dan Bailey added that Q4 gross margin improvement was primarily due to favorable product mix in data center computing, networking, and aerospace & defense, along with improved operational execution, despite a 180 basis point headwind from Penang. Edwin Roks further elaborated on Penang's revenue doubling and yield improvements.

Jim Ricchiuti asked about the tone of demand in various business areas beyond Semi-Cap, specifically inquiring if confidence had increased in sectors like Medical, AC&C, and Industrial compared to three months prior. He also questioned how gross margins might evolve with accelerating top-line growth versus the potential for OpEx leverage.

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David Moezidis, President, and Jeff Benck, CEO, responded that there were no overall surprises, with Medical having turned a corner, AC&C showing strong Q4 momentum continuing into the first half, Semi-Cap picking up, and Industrial remaining steady. Regarding margins, Bryan Schumaker, CFO, and Jeff Benck, CEO, expressed confidence in maintaining gross margins around 10.2% even with slight revenue dips, emphasizing that the greater opportunity for leverage lies in operating margin as SG&A does not need to grow at the same rate as revenue, with Semi-Cap recovery being beneficial despite AC&C's lower margins.

Jim Ricchiuti asked about Benchmark's increased confidence in demand across business sectors beyond Semi-Cap, specifically inquiring about areas where the tone of demand has changed over the last three months. He also questioned the outlook for gross margins with accelerating top-line growth and the potential for greater operating expense leverage.

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President David Moezidis noted consistent performance, with Medical turning a corner, AC&C showing strong Q4 momentum, Semi picking up, and Industrial gradually improving. Regarding margins, David highlighted Q4 gross margin at 10.6% and Q1 guidance midpoint at 10.2%, emphasizing that operating margin leverage is the greater opportunity as revenue accelerates. CEO Jeff Benck added that Semi-Cap recovery helps, but overall scale in the model means SG&A does not need to grow at the same rate as revenue.

Jim Ricchiuti asked about the impact of pricing actions on hardware growth, specifically how much additional benefit could be expected in Q3 versus Q2. He also inquired about the nature and variability of larger projects within the door locking device business.

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Andrew Vuono, CFO, clarified that the product pricing adjustments were effective at the beginning of Q2 2026 and were fully baked in for the balance of the fiscal year, meaning no significant additional benefit from these specific actions is expected in Q3 beyond what was seen in Q2. Kevin Buchel, President and COO, noted that the door locking business saw strength from various school and prototype projects, but emphasized that these were not so large as to create difficult year-over-year comparisons for future quarters.

Jim Ricchiuti from Needham & Company asked for quantification of the equipment sales pull-forward, elaboration on sell-through statistics, and the specific impact of tariffs on equipment gross margins during the quarter.

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President and COO Kevin Buchel stated that sell-through stats were strong across the board in June and that distributor ordering activity remains healthy. CFO Andrew Bono addressed the margin question, clarifying that there was limited benefit from price increases in Q4. He quantified the negative tariff impact on COGS at approximately $1 million for the quarter, noting that the company expects to see a lift in margins in Q1 as new pricing is fully effective. Chairman and CEO Dick Soloway added that the company is focused on releasing additional recurring revenue products.

Jim Ricchiuti inquired about Teledyne's order numbers and book-to-bill ratios across its main segments for the recent quarter and full year. He also asked for the full-year sales from the unmanned business in 2025 and its projected growth in 2026.

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Robert Mehrabian (Executive Chairman) reported a Q4 book-to-bill of 1.07, with instrumentation at 1, digital imaging at 1.06, aerospace and defense at 1.25, and engineered systems under 1. The full-year book-to-bill was 1.08. He stated that the combined unmanned businesses generated about $500 million in revenue in 2025, with an expectation to grow to approximately $550 million in 2026.

Jim Ricchiuti sought clarification on the Q3 gross margin decline, specifically the impact of a project closeout and seasonal factors, and asked if the assumed lower gross margin for 2026 was primarily a function of project mix.

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Peter Johansson (CFO) quantified the project closeout impact at 30-50 basis points. Todd Gleason (CEO) added that Q3 is historically CECO's softest gross margin quarter due to seasonal dynamics and modest inflation. Peter Johansson (CFO) and Todd Gleason (CEO) confirmed that any potentially lower gross margins in 2026 would be due to a mix shift towards larger power and water jobs, which have lower gross but higher EBITDA margins, rather than changes in pricing or inflation.

Jim Ricchiuti sought clarification on the sequential decline in Q3 gross margin, specifically the impact of a project closeout, and asked if the assumed lower gross margin for 2026 is primarily a function of project mix.

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CFO Peter Johansson indicated that a specific project closeout contributed 30-50 basis points to the Q3 gross margin reduction. CEO Todd Gleason added that Q3 is historically CECO's softest quarter for gross margins due to seasonal factors and modest inflation. For 2026, Peter Johansson clarified that if gross margins are lower, it would primarily be due to a mix shift towards large power and water jobs, which have lower gross margins but contribute positively to EBITDA margins due to minimal associated G&A.

Chris Grenga, on for Jim Ricchiuti, asked for details on the first fleet customer for the Castrol circular oil offering, the sales funnel for similar deals, and whether the company is evaluating other geographic expansions for the semiconductor vertical.

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Co-CEO Michael Battles explained the Castrol partnership involves collecting used oil and selling back a premium, low-carbon product, noting the sales pipeline is strong despite long lead times for large fleets. Co-CEO Eric Gerstenberg confirmed they are actively evaluating other geographies for semiconductor-related expansion beyond Phoenix, driven by strong customer relationships and market growth.

Jim Ricchiuti asked if pausing M&A creates a risk of lost opportunities, whether the election outcome reinforces this decision, and for details on the significance of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers contract.

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President and CEO Vijay Manthripragada responded that there is 'absolutely no risk' of losing key acquisition targets. He noted that while the M&A pause was decided independently of the election, it is a prudent move in the current environment. Regarding the Army contract, he explained that it validates the company's integrated strategy and that milestones will be shared as the contract progresses.

Focused on the drivers behind the better-than-expected gross margins, the potential for further margin improvement, and the specific end markets and geographies (particularly China) experiencing demand weakness.

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Executives attributed the gross margin beat to accelerated variable cost productivity, supply chain localization savings, logistics efficiencies, and a favorable product mix towards software. They indicated they are in the "middle innings" of realizing supply chain savings, suggesting more benefits are to come. They identified China as the primary region experiencing weakness across both manufacturing and construction and do not see a material improvement in demand, though year-over-year comparisons will ease in the second half.