Justin Clare

Justin Clare followed up on the steel conduit pricing trend, noting four consecutive quarters of improvement, and asked if continued price improvement is anticipated in fiscal Q2 and if the full-year guidance embeds an upward trend in steel pricing. He also inquired whether the higher pricing is supporting margin improvement for steel conduit. Additionally, Clare asked for an update on the impact of aluminum tariffs on the cost structure, whether domestic supply sources have been secured, and the potential margin implications.

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President and CEO Bill Waltz confirmed four quarters of steel conduit price increases, with the last quarter being the best for spreads in a long time. He stated that while the forecast doesn't anticipate meaningful *spread* increases, steel prices are expected to rise slightly over the next 6-9 months, and Atkore expects to keep pace with pricing. Regarding aluminum tariffs, Bill Waltz acknowledged that tariffs are impacting offshore-sourced aluminum (specifically from Canada). He mentioned looking into domestic sources but noted that domestic manufacturers are raising prices, making it difficult to quantify potential savings or arbitrage. He added that the 50% aluminum tariff impact has not been fully passed along, and copper volatility is also challenging the cable business in the short term.

Justin Clare followed up on steel conduit pricing, noting it has improved for four consecutive quarters, and asked about the anticipated trend for fiscal Q2, whether the guidance embeds a continued upward trend, and how higher pricing is supporting margin improvement for steel conduit. He also inquired about the impact of aluminum tariffs on Atkore's cost structure, efforts to secure domestic supply, and the potential effect on margins.

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President and CEO Bill Waltz confirmed four quarters of steel conduit price increases, with the last quarter being the best for spreads in a long time. He stated that the current forecast does not expect meaningful spread increases, though professional forecasts suggest steel prices may rise slightly over the next 6-9 months, which Atkore expects to match with pricing. Regarding aluminum tariffs, Bill Waltz acknowledged that tariffs on offshore (specifically Canadian) aluminum have impacted costs, and while domestic sources are being explored, domestic manufacturers are also raising prices. He noted that Atkore has not fully passed along the 50% aluminum tariff impact, contributing to challenges in the cable business in the short term.

Justin Clare inquired about Atkore's fiscal 2026 guidance, specifically the expectation for pricing benefits driving revenue growth and the factors contributing to anticipated margin improvement throughout the year, especially given the lower Q1 EBITDA margin outlook.

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CFO John Deitzer confirmed expectations for pricing benefits, citing sequential price increases in steel conduit and other businesses, while acknowledging ongoing price versus cost headwinds. He attributed the expected margin improvement to a ramp-up in construction services, mega projects, and strength in the solar industry. President and CEO Bill Waltz added that cost actions and productivity from facility closures would significantly contribute to stronger performance in the second half of the fiscal year.

Justin Clare from ROTH Capital Partners sought to clarify the fiscal 2026 headwinds, asking how much was due to already-realized price declines versus future expectations, and inquired about the potential to recapture market share in steel conduit.

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President and CEO Bill Waltz confirmed that the majority of the forecasted fiscal 2026 headwind stems from the year-over-year mathematical impact of pricing declines that have already occurred in fiscal 2025. He also stated his belief that Atkore has the potential to recapture market share in steel conduit over time as lower import volumes and tariff impacts reduce importers' ability to undercut domestic pricing, which should benefit both margins and market share.

Justin Clare inquired about Fluence Energy's reliance on AESC for domestic U.S. projects until the second supplier is available, emphasizing the importance of resolving FEOC restrictions, and asked about accelerating data center interconnection with storage.

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President and CEO Julian Nebreda stressed that resolving FEOC restrictions by early calendar 2026 is 'very, very important' and that Fluence has a plan to achieve it. He confirmed that Fluence believes it can help data centers meet interconnection restrictions without major regulatory changes, though no such contracts have been signed yet.

Justin Clare followed up on the second cell supply source, asking if Fluence expects to rely on AESC for domestic U.S. projects until the new source is available and the importance of resolving FEOC restrictions by early calendar 2026. He also inquired about the ability to accelerate data center interconnection with storage, whether this is currently being done or requires regulatory changes, and the timing of associated orders.

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President and CEO Julian Nebreda stressed the critical importance of resolving FEOC restrictions by early calendar 2026, confirming that the company has a plan and is actively working on it. Regarding data center interconnection, he stated that no contracts have been signed yet, but Fluence believes it has the capability to help data centers meet interconnection requirements without needing major regulatory changes, simply by ensuring compliance with grid offerings.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC asked if Fluence can offset U.S. tariff costs, whether the impact is temporary, and for an update on the ramp-up of AESC's second production line and any alternative domestic cell suppliers.

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President and CEO Julian Nebreda clarified that the current margin pressure from tariffs is a temporary issue affecting pre-signed contracts, with the impact already in guidance. He expects new contracts to return margins to the target range. Regarding supply, he said the second AESC line is not needed until early 2027 and confirmed Fluence is exploring other options to ensure supply chain flexibility.

Justin Clare inquired about the factors contributing to Enlight's Q3 revenue exceeding expectations, specifically asking about solar and wind resource availability compared to seasonal norms and any one-time benefits. He also questioned the acceleration of safe harbor projects, the strategy for achieving the updated 14-17 FGW target, and the projected growth rates for operating capacity from 2028 to 2030, including potential constraints.

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Adi Leviatan (CEO, Enlight Renewable Energy) attributed higher revenue to additional wind in Israeli assets, strong battery storage performance, and favorable dollar-to-shekel exchange rates. Jared Mckee (CEO, Clenera) detailed the safe harbor strategy, involving both offsite manufacturing and onsite physical work, expressing confidence in meeting targets. He projected continued growth rates similar to the past, leveraging the large pool of safe-harbored projects to mitigate risks. Adi Leviatan added that Enlight's scale, capital-raising ability, and global diversification are key advantages.

Justin Clare, Senior Research Analyst at ROTH Capital Partners, inquired about the factors contributing to Enlight Renewable Energy's Q3 revenue exceeding expectations, specifically asking about solar and wind resource availability compared to seasonal norms and any one-time benefits. He also questioned the acceleration of safe harbor achievements, the strategy for reaching 14-17 gigawatts, and the projected growth rates for operating capacity beyond 2028, including potential constraints in interconnection, permitting, or financing.

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CEO Adi Leviattan attributed the strong Q3 revenue to additional wind in Israeli assets, expected solar performance, enhanced battery storage extraction, and favorable dollar-to-shekel exchange rates. Jared Mckee, CEO of Clenera, detailed the safe harbor strategy, emphasizing physical work (offsite manufacturing or onsite development) and project-specific approaches to achieve the 14-17 GW target. He projected continued growth post-2028, leveraging a large project pool to mitigate development risks. CEO Adi Leviattan further highlighted Enlight's advantage as a large, diversified developer with strong capital access to manage multiple large projects simultaneously across geographies.

Justin Clare sought more detail on the 6 GW of safe-harbored projects, asking for a breakdown of when they were qualified. He also asked about the outlook for PPA prices for projects with COD dates in 2028-2029 and whether a reduction in tax credits could lead to higher PPA prices.

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CEO Gilad Yavetz stated that the company has until July 2026 to qualify projects and has already increased its safe-harbored portfolio from 4.9 GW to 6 GW since May. Incoming Clēnera CEO Jared Mckee noted it's too early to know how supply will adjust post-guidance but confirmed the company is advancing its start-of-construction strategy. Gilad Yavetz added that strong electricity demand, particularly from AI and data centers, will be the decisive factor, and the market will adapt to a non-subsidy environment, supporting prices.

Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners, LLC followed up on the safe harbor topic, asking about plans to secure additional projects beyond the current 6 GW to meet the 6.5-8 GW target. He also questioned the outlook for PPA price trends for projects with COD dates in 2028-2029, and whether a potential reduction in tax credits could lead to upward price pressure.

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CEO Gilad Yavetz explained that with a deadline of July 2026 to qualify projects, having 6 GW secured already represents a very strong position and they are on a rapid pace to qualify more. Regarding PPA pricing, Jared Mckee and Gilad Yavetz noted that while it's early to predict the full impact of regulatory changes, the fundamental driver is soaring electricity demand from AI and data centers. They expressed confidence that the market will adapt and project economics will remain attractive, even in a subsidy-free environment.

Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners, LLC followed up on the safe harbor topic, asking about the strategy to secure additional projects beyond the current 6 GW to meet the company's 6.5-8 GW target. He also inquired about PPA pricing trends for projects with COD dates in 2028-2029 and whether a potential reduction in tax credits could lead to upward pressure on PPA prices.

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CEO Gilad Yavetz stated that the company has until July 2026 to qualify projects for safe harbor and is progressing rapidly, having added 1.1 GW since May. On PPA pricing, incoming Clēnera CEO Jared Mckee noted it was too early to predict supply adjustments without final guidance. Gilad Yavetz added that strong electricity demand from data centers and AI is the most critical factor, and he is confident the U.S. market will adapt to a subsidy-free environment, similar to what has occurred in Europe.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC followed up on the safe harbor topic, asking about Enlight's plans to secure additional projects beyond the current 6 GW to meet its 6.5-8 GW target. He also questioned the PPA pricing trends for U.S. projects with COD dates in 2028-2029 and whether a potential reduction in tax credits could lead to upward pressure on PPA prices.

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Gilad Yavetz (Co-Founder, CEO & Director) and Jared Mckee (VP Business Development) addressed the questions. Mr. Yavetz noted that the company has until July 2026 to qualify projects and is progressing rapidly, having added 1.1 GW since May. Regarding PPA trends, Mr. Mckee stated it is too early to predict supply adjustments without final regulatory guidance but confirmed they are advancing their start-of-construction strategy. Mr. Yavetz added that strong electricity demand from data centers and AI is the decisive factor, and he is confident the U.S. market will adapt to a subsidy-free environment, similar to other developed markets.

Justin Clare asked about the potential for PPA renewals and extensions for projects beyond repowering, driven by increased power pricing and off-taker demand, and whether this could accelerate revenue or CAFD growth in the coming years. He also questioned the 3.5% CAGR between the 2027 and 2030 CAFD per share targets, asking for clarification on why growth might slow before re-accelerating.

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Craig Cornelius, President and CEO, indicated that PPA extensions, like the Wildorado project, primarily contribute to longevity and compounding cash flow beyond 2030, as most of the existing renewable fleet is contracted through this decade. He noted potential for optimizing revenue contracts for some assets to enhance cash flow and reduce variability before 2030. Addressing the CAGR, Mr. Cornelius emphasized Clearway's culture of setting achievable goals and then revisiting and increasing them, highlighting the robust 7%-8% CAFD per share growth target from 2025 to 2030 and the abundant development pipeline exceeding current investment needs.

Justin Clare asked about the potential for PPA renewals and extensions, particularly for projects not undergoing repowering, and whether increased power pricing is driving earlier renewals that could impact revenue or CAFD in the coming years. He also inquired about the calculated CAGR between the 2027 and 2030 CAFD per share targets and why growth might slow in those years before re-accelerating.

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President and CEO Craig Cornelius noted that PPA extensions, like the Wildorado project, primarily contribute to longevity and compounding cash flow beyond 2030, as most of the existing renewable fleet is contracted through the end of this decade. He clarified that the company aims to ensure cash flow contribution remains high or increases during extensions. Regarding the 2030 targets, Mr. Cornelius explained Clearway's culture of setting achievable goals and then revisiting and increasing them, emphasizing the robust investment opportunity set and the company's track record of consistent growth.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC sought clarification on the increase in expected retained CAFD for 2025-2027 and the updated equity issuance plan, asking how much equity might be required to reach the low versus high end of the new CAFD per share target range.

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CEO Craig Cornelius and CFO Sarah Rubenstein explained that the updated funding sources align with the new, higher 2027 CAFD per share target of $2.50-$2.70. Cornelius clarified that while the midpoint of the new range is achievable with minimal equity, reaching the high end and funding 2028-2029 growth would utilize the planned $50 million to $100 million in equity issuances.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC inquired about the specific drivers for the increased retained CAFD forecast for 2025-2027 and sought clarity on the updated equity issuance plan, asking how much equity is needed to reach the low vs. high end of the new guidance.

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CEO Craig Cornelius and CFO Sarah Rubenstein explained the retained CAFD increase is aligned with the new, higher 2027 CAFD per share target of $2.50-$2.70. Cornelius clarified that while the midpoint of the old range was achievable without equity, reaching the midpoint and high end of the new range would necessitate the planned $50-$100 million in modest, accretive equity issuances.

Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners inquired about the commercial traction for the new Energy Base product, the company's revenue outlook for the second half of the year, the status of its recent capital raise, and the forecast for cash burn.

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Interim CEO Kelly Goodman confirmed one Energy Base order and expects more conversions in H2 2025, highlighting a faster contracting pace with utility customers. Interim CFO Kate Sodolnyk declined to provide specific revenue guidance but noted the July cash balance was $7.2 million, reflecting recent capital inflows from a new financing package. Both executives emphasized a continued focus on disciplined cost control and right-sizing the business to manage cash burn and extend the operational runway.

Justin Clare inquired about the revenue outlook for Q2 and the second half of the year, asking if the ramp is contingent on a successful capital raise. He also asked about the company's current cash runway and the specific requirements of the Arizona RFP that ESS won.

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CFO Tony Rabb confirmed that Q2 revenue would be similar to Q1 and that a second-half ramp depends on securing additional capital. Rabb noted that future cash burn will be lower than in recent quarters and mentioned interim financing options like an ATM program and an EXIM loan. Interim CEO Kelly Goodman added that key factors in winning the Arizona RFP included the non-lithium requirement, the Energy Base's 10+ hour duration, its wide operating temperature range, competitive cost, and ESS's operational field experience.

Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners inquired about the specifics of Q3 customer delays, revenue recognition for Q4 EC unit shipments, and the operational timeline for the second automated production line.

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CEO Eric Dresselhuys clarified that the primary Q3 delay was tied to a single Australian customer's funding, which has since been resolved. He confirmed ESS expects to recognize revenue for six EC units in Q4, though they will not be operational until Q2 2025. CFO Tony Rabb added that the second automated line is on track to be operational by mid-2025, with assembly beginning in Q1 2025.

Justin Clare inquired about ReNew's manufacturing business, seeking details on Q1 2026 megawatt deliveries, the delivery outlook for the rest of the fiscal year, and the potential for booking new orders. He also asked for an update on the current attractiveness and competitiveness of the project bidding environment.

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Kailash Vaswani, CFO, clarified that in Q1, ReNew sold nearly 700 MW of modules and 142 MW of cells to third parties. He explained that the upward revision to the manufacturing EBITDA guidance was due to continued visibility on third-party sales for the remainder of the year. Regarding the bidding environment, Mr. Vaswani described it as steady but with some 'irrational' competition, reinforcing ReNew's disciplined approach to only bid on projects that meet their internal return hurdles.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC inquired about the assumptions behind the fiscal 2026 guidance, particularly the Plant Load Factor (PLF) for wind and solar. He also sought details on the module sales outlook and the financing strategy for the new cell facility expansion.

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CFO Kailash Vaswani explained that the fiscal 2026 guidance assumes Plant Load Factor levels will be similar to fiscal 2025 at the lower end of the range. He clarified that the 1.4 GW module order book is primarily for the Indian market. For the new facility, Vaswani confirmed a 70/30 debt-to-equity financing structure, with the recent $100 million equity raise covering the equity portion and debt discussions underway.

Justin Clare of ROTH MKM inquired about the transmission of recent RBI rate cuts to ReNew's borrowing costs and asked for a comparison of project returns across plain vanilla solar, solar-plus-storage, and round-the-clock (RTC) projects.

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An unnamed executive explained that the benefits of the rate cut have only been realized on a small portion of the portfolio linked to short-term rates, with broader transmission from lenders yet to occur. The executive also detailed that RTC projects offer the highest returns, followed by solar-plus-storage, with plain vanilla solar offering the lowest returns, noting a potential 2-3% IRR difference between the categories.

Justin Clare asked about the completion timeline for the RTC project, specifically regarding potential transmission readiness delays and the possibility of selling power on the merchant market. He also inquired about the impact of proposed import restrictions on cell manufacturing and whether ReNew plans to expand its cell production capacity.

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Sumant Sinha, Founder, Chairman and CEO, confirmed the RTC project is on track for completion in the second half of the fiscal year with no expected transmission delays. He noted that only small amounts of power could be sold on the merchant market due to PPA terms. Regarding manufacturing, Mr. Sinha stated that the government is considering an ALMM for cells from April 2026, making an expansion of ReNew's own cell capacity a sensible option that the company is actively considering.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC asked for clarification on the suspension of financial guidance following the Manitowoc sale announcement. He also inquired about demand visibility and capacity expansion plans for the Industrial Solutions segment, and the potential for margin improvement through operating leverage.

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CFO Thomas Ciccone explained that the guidance was suspended primarily due to uncertainty around the exact closing date of the Manitowoc sale, which impacts revenue recognition and transitional costs. CEO Eric Blashford highlighted that the large gas turbine market has seen a fourfold increase in units sold year-over-year, providing visibility through 2028. He noted investments in robotic welding and other capabilities to meet this demand. Ciccone confirmed that increased revenue and capacity utilization are expected to improve margins given the company's fixed cost structure.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC inquired about the specifics behind the suspended financial guidance, the demand visibility and capacity in the Industrial Solutions segment, and the potential for margin expansion.

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CFO Thomas Ciccone clarified that the guidance suspension is primarily due to the uncertain timing of the Manitowoc asset sale closing and related transitional costs, not other business uncertainties. CEO Eric Blashford highlighted that the gas turbine market is up 4x year-over-year, providing visibility through 2028, and confirmed Broadwind is investing in capacity to meet this demand. CFO Ciccone added that with a large fixed cost structure, increased revenue and capacity utilization are expected to drive margin expansion.

Justin Clare inquired about the drivers behind the strong Q1 revenue in the Heavy Fabrications segment, the outlook for this segment through 2025 and 2026, and the potential impact of tariffs on costs and competition. He also asked for visibility on the Gearing segment's demand outlook, considering recent oil price movements.

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CFO Tom Ciccone attributed the Q1 Heavy Fabrications strength to high demand for repowering adapters and noted that a new tower run starting in Q2 should boost revenue for the rest of 2025. CEO Eric Blashford added that 2026 wind tower and repowering adapter demand is expected to be similar to 2025 levels. Regarding tariffs, Blashford stated the impact on wind components is minor and passed through, but tariffs may be encouraging onshoring activity in the Gearing segment. He also noted that while oil and gas gearing is soft, the company is seeing a lift from the power generation sector.

Justin Clare asked for a segment-level breakdown of the anticipated growth in the 2025 guidance. He also inquired about the potential for adjusted EBITDA margin expansion and the impact of the recent executive order on wind permitting on customer project activity.

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CEO Eric Blashford projected that Industrial Solutions would maintain its strong growth pace, Gearing would grow from a slower start, and Heavy Fabrications' tower business would be flat. CFO Tom Ciccone noted potential for margin upside at the higher end of the revenue guidance. However, Mr. Blashford added that initial margins on new products can be lower due to PPAP runs. Regarding policy, Mr. Blashford stated the executive order is the primary reason for their muted 2026 outlook, as permitting uncertainty could cause developers to pause projects.

Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners, LLC inquired about the outlook for hardware sales following the company's strategic pivot to software, the anticipated evolution of the business mix towards utility-scale solar, and the expected trajectory for operating expenses (OpEx) through the end of 2025.

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CEO Arun Narayanan reaffirmed hardware sales guidance of up to $35 million but emphasized the successful pivot to a software-centric model. He explained that the new PowerTrack EMS product is key to entering the utility-scale market by integrating solar and storage control. CFO Brian Musfeldt added that cash OpEx is expected to continue declining in the second half of the year through non-personnel savings, building on the significant year-over-year reduction already achieved, but did not provide a specific 2026 run rate.

Justin Clare of Roth MKM inquired about the impact of potential tariffs on the storage and solar bookings environment, the potential for hardware supply constraints to affect software contracting, and the key drivers behind the company's expected improving profitability throughout 2025.

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CFO and EVP Spencer Hole explained that OEM hardware is a small part of the 2025 plan and that software activations are largely from existing backlog, mitigating immediate tariff impacts. He noted no slowdown in solar deployments and expects to pass on any minor tariff costs. CEO Arun Narayanan added that upselling to existing customers is another growth vector. Regarding profitability, Narayanan cited H2-weighted revenue and ongoing cost management, while Hole highlighted the new business unit structure's role in improving financial discipline.

Justin Clare sought clarification on the new backlog and bookings metrics, specifically if the change was due to requiring fully executed purchase orders, and questioned why a large increase in storage operating AUM did not result in a corresponding rise in software revenue.

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CFO Doran Hole confirmed the new metrics for contracted backlog and CARR are now based on fully executed purchase orders, with backlog holding hardware and non-recurring services, while CARR holds recurring software revenue. He attributed the software revenue disparity to a one-time reduction in Q4 related to specific SPE deals.

Justin Clare of ROTH Capital Partners followed up on the shift to shorter contracts, asking about the impact on annual revenue. He also inquired about the potential for one-time revenue from new service offerings and sought an update on the timeline for converting CARR to ARR.

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Interim CEO David Buzby responded that while pricing is under review, he does not expect a material change in annual revenue per contract, with the focus being on providing flexibility. He confirmed that the services business will generate a mix of onetime and longer-term recurring revenue. Regarding the CARR to ARR conversion timeline, Buzby stated it is being closely examined and more details will be provided with full-year 2024 results.

Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners, LLC inquired about the new $300M preferred equity deal, asking for details on its return structure, the broader financing strategy for the associated $1B in CapEx, and the development status of projects slated for 2027 completion.

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Chairman & CEO Robert Piconi stated that specific details on the preferred equity structure will be shared at an investor event post-closing. CFO Michael Beer outlined a general capital stack for projects: roughly 50% project financing, 30-40% from Investment Tax Credits (ITCs), and the remainder from equity. Robert Piconi added that the funds also cover development expenses (DevEx) and that the 2027 pipeline projects in the US, Australia, and Europe are in mid-to-late development stages.

Justin Clare of Roth MKM inquired about the impact of U.S. tariffs on securing new bookings, the expected demand following the tariff pause, and the composition of the 2025 guidance, including the ability to source batteries.

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CEO Robert Piconi explained that tariff discussions in April caused a "lock and stop" on new U.S. projects but the recent pause has reignited customer conversations. He noted that over 80% of the 2025 revenue guide was already contracted. Executive Michael Beer added that the company is reiterating its guidance, observing that customers were already trying to pull 2026 deliveries forward, and the industry is becoming more creative with logistics.

Justin Clare inquired about Energy Vault's build-own-operate strategy, asking about the potential capacity the company might add to its balance sheet in 2025-2026, the associated capital requirements, and potential funding sources. He also asked how the company weighs owning a project versus a traditional EPC sale and the impact on the 2025 outlook.

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Robert Piconi, Chairman and CEO, stated that there is ample capital available for high-IRR projects and the company is evaluating deploying hundreds of millions, supported by strategic investors. He explained that the decision to own assets versus recognizing immediate EPC revenue is based on long-term shareholder value, balancing near-term commitments with the creation of long-term, high-margin EBITDA streams. This strategic choice involves foregoing lower-margin EPC revenue for more lucrative, predictable returns from owned assets.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC inquired about the progress on Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS), asking if the initial application would be at existing plants or new sites, and questioned the potential product demand from other EGS developers.

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CEO Doron Blachar stated that while Ormat is pursuing multiple EGS technologies, the initial focus will likely be on enhancing production at existing facilities to leverage current infrastructure. He believes that once EGS is proven, it will significantly expand Ormat's growth in both development and products, noting Ormat's non-Chinese manufacturing as a key future advantage.

Justin Clare inquired about the potential impact of increased tariffs on the energy storage project pipeline beyond 2026, the effect of tariffs on geothermal project costs, and the prospective timing and application of Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) technology.

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Executive Doron Blachar explained that Ormat is mitigating storage tariff impacts by exploring diverse battery suppliers, including U.S.-based manufacturers, and continuing development in Israel. He stated the tariff impact on geothermal is not material, as imported components are a small fraction of total CapEx, and rising PPA prices offer a buffer. Regarding EGS, he noted it could enhance existing plants and open new development areas, but acknowledged that technological challenges remain.

Justin Clare of ROTH Capital Partners inquired about the scope of the IRA safe harbor for geothermal projects, the potential to extend these timelines, and the revenue recognition and margin profile for the large New Zealand contract.

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CFO Assaf Ginzburg stated the safe harbor covers nearly 400 MW of geothermal and solar projects, including many not yet publicly named, which are critical for 2027-2028 targets. He confirmed Ormat is working to extend these timelines. CEO Doron Blachar added that revenue from the New Zealand contract will be recognized over 2.5 years (2025-2027), with 2026 as the likely peak, and the Products segment is targeting 18-20% gross margins.

Justin Clare from ROTH Capital Partners asked about Ormat's strategy for mitigating potential risks from changes to the IRA legislation, specifically regarding Safe Harboring projects. He also requested an update on PPA pricing trends and the status of re-contracting for assets with PPAs expiring in 2026-2027.

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CEO Doron Blachar explained that Safe Harboring geothermal projects has been a standard company practice for over a decade to protect against policy changes, and a similar approach is being applied to Energy Storage projects. He expressed confidence that geothermal PTCs would likely continue, noting their extension under the previous Trump administration. Blachar also confirmed that PPA pricing trends continue to be strong, with new contracts being negotiated "north of $100," and that they are in final negotiations to re-contract the Heber and Mammoth G2 facilities at these elevated prices.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC followed up on gross margins, asking which specific end markets, such as semiconductors, drove the strength and whether margins above 30% are sustainable at revenue levels over $70 million. He also asked about the company's strategy for data centers and the key factors enabling its success in the semiconductor market.

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CEO Daniel McGahn and CFO John Kosiba confirmed the materials sector, including semiconductors, contributed to the favorable mix, but noted overall project margins are similar across the business. Kosiba stated that at revenues approaching $70 million, a 30% gross margin is a 'very comfortable' assumption with a normal mix. Regarding data centers, McGahn described it as 'early days,' with an initial focus on substation-level projects. He attributed semiconductor success to offering a more complete, proprietary, and higher-content solution that is unique in the market.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC followed up on gross margins, asking for more detail on which end markets, such as semiconductor, drove the strength and whether revenues above $70 million would consistently yield 30%+ margins. He also asked about progress in the data center market and the key factors enabling success in the semiconductor space.

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Chairman, President & CEO Daniel McGahn attributed the strong margin partly to an accelerated shipment mix in the materials and semiconductor sector, noting the content shipped had a higher margin for the period. CFO, SVP & Treasurer John Kosiba added that with a 'normal' mix at revenues approaching $70 million, a 30% margin is a comfortable assumption. Regarding data centers, McGahn described it as 'early days,' with efforts focused at the substation level with EPCs, but not a driver in the coming quarters. Success in semiconductors is due to offering more valuable, proprietary, and complete solutions.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC followed up on gross margins, asking for more detail on which end markets, such as semiconductors, drove the strength and whether revenues above $70 million would consistently yield 30%-plus margins. He also inquired about progress in the data center market and the key factors enabling success in the semiconductor space.

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CEO Daniel McGahn and CFO John Kosiba attributed the strong margin partly to an acceleration in the materials and semiconductor sector, which had a favorable content mix for the quarter, but noted project margins are broadly similar across the business. Kosiba affirmed that a 30% margin is a comfortable assumption for revenues around $70 million with a normal mix. On data centers, McGahn stated it's 'early days' and they are in discussions with EPCs and end-customers for substation-level solutions, but it's not a near-term revenue driver. Success in semiconductors is credited to offering more complete, valuable, and proprietary solutions.

Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners sought more detail on the strong gross margin, asking which end markets drove it and if 30%+ is the new norm for revenues over $70 million. He also asked about progress in the data center market and the key success factors in the semiconductor space.

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CEO Daniel McGahn and CFO John Kosiba addressed the margins, attributing the strength to an accelerated materials and semiconductor mix but noting project margins are broadly similar across the business. Kosiba affirmed that at $70M+ revenue, a 30% margin is a comfortable assumption with a normal mix. McGahn described data center efforts as 'early days' and not a near-term revenue driver. He credited semiconductor success to offering a more complete, valuable, and proprietary solution.

Justin Clare from Roth Capital Partners, LLC followed up on gross margins, asking which specific end markets, such as semiconductors, drove the strength and whether revenues above $70 million would consistently yield margins over 30%. He also asked about progress in the data center market and the key factors enabling success in the semiconductor industry.

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Chairman, President & CEO Daniel McGahn attributed the strong margin partly to an acceleration of high-content shipments in the materials and semiconductor sector, noting it was a timing anomaly rather than a structural difference in project margins. CFO John Kosiba stated that with a normal mix, a 30% margin is a comfortable assumption at revenue levels approaching $70 million. Regarding data centers, McGahn described it as early days, with a focus on substation-level solutions for EPCs. He credited semiconductor success to offering a more complete, valuable, and proprietary solution.

Justin Clare sought more details on the semiconductor opportunity, including pipeline visibility, US versus international growth, and order sizes. He also asked about the impact of tariffs on order cadence and the in-field performance of the delivered Navy Ship Protection Systems.

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Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President and CEO, described the semiconductor pipeline as having 'triple-digit potential' and being a global opportunity, not just US-based. He noted that individual fab orders can now range from $2 million to $10 million, with potential for larger orders in the future. On tariffs, he stated they have been a net positive by encouraging reshoring. Regarding the Navy systems, McGahn confirmed they are performing as well or better than advertised and that the Canadian Navy contract validates the technology, but he could not share sensitive performance details.

Justin Clare asked for details on the opportunity in data centers, including which products are a fit and potential order timing. He also inquired about the semiconductor business outlook following CHIPS Act funding and whether U.S. renewable project permitting issues pose a challenge.

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Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President and CEO, clarified the data center opportunity lies in providing grid-support products to utilities, which is a longer-term prospect. He confirmed CHIPS Act funding is driving near-term semiconductor opportunities with several large orders in the company's 'crosshairs.' McGahn noted that U.S. renewables permitting is not a concern as it represents a 'very small part' of AMSC's business.

Justin Clare of ROTH Capital Partners sought an update on the revenue ramp timeline for the Canadian Navy contract and asked if the combination of growth in the Wind and Navy businesses could lead to margin uplift. He also inquired about potential opportunities for AMSC to address grid congestion, possibly with its HTS wire technology.

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CEO Daniel McGahn confirmed that revenue from the Canadian contract is expected to begin ramping in fiscal 2025, with the first system delivery scheduled for 2026. He agreed that increased scale in both the Navy and Wind businesses presents a potential for margin expansion, though the overall project mix remains a factor. Regarding grid congestion, McGahn focused on the near-term opportunity to supply existing New Energy power systems to utilities and industrial customers, stating a superconductor-based solution is likely more than a year away from financial impact.

Justin Clare of Roth MKM inquired about the quarterly trend for the 2025 adjusted EBITDA guidance, opportunities for further operating cost reductions, the company's acquisition strategy, and the business impact of recent solar tariffs.

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CFO James Brennan explained that while quarterly guidance isn't provided, Q1 is seasonally the lowest, with performance ramping up through Q4. He also noted that future acquisitions will create cost synergies. CEO Scott Maskin added that their acquisition criteria focus on diversification, positive EBITDA, and strong customer reviews to lower lead acquisition costs. Regarding tariffs, Maskin stated the company is not significantly exposed and views the current situation as short-term, not a cause for panic.

Justin Clare asked how a potential early phase-down of the 45X tax credit might affect decisions to add lines in Iowa or open another U.S. site. He also questioned if 2025 U.S. demand has been impacted by tariffs or permitting, sought an outlook for 2026, and asked about the EBITDA margin trend for the year.

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President and CEO William Siwek stated an early 45X phase-down could impact future expansion decisions. He confirmed 2025 U.S. demand remains strong and unchanged, and projected that 2026 demand would likely be flat with 2025. CFO Ryan Miller added that Q2 EBITDA margin will be impacted by a safety stand-down, but he expects a strong second half with Q3 being the peak for volume and margins, and that the full-year sales guidance is still achievable.

Asked about the factors driving weak Q4 gross margins despite high utilization and questioned the 2025 profitability outlook for the Turkish operations following recent restructuring.

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The Q4 margin was negatively impacted by an inventory reduction under the cost-to-cost accounting method, investments in 24/7 operations, and a $6 million net warranty charge; without these items, the margin was around 5%. For 2025, the company expects its Turkish plants to be EBITDA positive, even with challenges and a planned reduction of two lines mid-year.

Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners requested specific details about the Iowa plant reopening, including the number of lines, CapEx requirements, start-up costs, and the expected revenue ramp-up timeline. He also asked for more information on the newly secured U.S. capacity, such as whether it is a greenfield or brownfield site and its potential scale.

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CEO Bill Siwek stated the Iowa plant will have two lines, ramping in Q3 2025 to full production by Q4, with minimal CapEx and start-up costs. He also confirmed the additional U.S. capacity is a brownfield (former blade facility) with space for up to four lines, located in a strategic geographic area, with more details to be provided early next year.

Justin Clare of ROTH Capital Partners sought to clarify if the comment about customers wanting all available capacity in 2025 applied to both the U.S. and European markets. He also asked if the strong U.S. demand makes production line transitions unlikely in U.S.-serving facilities next year.

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President and CEO William Siwek confirmed his 'full sold out' comment was specific to the U.S. market, as the company is still working with customers to determine final 2025 volumes for Europe. He agreed it was a reasonable expectation that there would be very few, if any, transitions in the U.S. next year, aside from a couple that will start late this year and carry over into 2025.

Asked about the new targeted market strategy, the reasons for the 2024 guidance reduction (project delays vs. cancellations), and the value and timing of deferred community solar revenue.

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The company is focusing on markets with new programs (MD, ME, IL) and using a mix of direct and partner-led engagement. The guidance cut is due to timing delays in new builds caused by utility interconnections, not a lack of opportunities. Approximately $4 million in community solar revenue was deferred from Q2 to the second half of the year.

Asked about the composition of the 2024 guidance (new builds vs. acquisitions) and the status of projects currently under construction, including any potential cancellations.

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The company reaffirmed guidance, highlighting the strong contribution from the existing operating portfolio's $196 million in annualized recurring revenue. Regarding projects under construction, they noted ongoing client activity but also development timetable issues, which are part of a review to improve transaction velocity.

The analyst inquired about the recent 121-megawatt acquisition, focusing on the seemingly low price per watt, the expected EBITDA contribution and multiple, the financing mix, and the company's capacity for future M&A. He also asked about construction timelines for meeting 2024 development targets.

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The company confirmed the acquisition was priced attractively at the low end of their typical 10-11x EBITDA multiple, with the lower price-per-watt reflecting the power prices in the portfolio's concentrated Southeast region. The deal will be financed predominantly with debt from the Blackstone facility plus cash on hand, and the company has ample capacity for more deals without issuing equity. Regarding construction, they are on track for 75 MW in 2023 and are scaling up the platform to meet 2024 goals, with some 2024 projects already under construction.