Question · Q4 2025
Kenneth Houston questioned the strong Net Interest Income (NII) exit in Q4, asking what factors might have led to 'over-earning' that may not continue. He also followed up on the delta of the terminated swaps burden from Q3 to Q4 and its projection into the next year.
Answer
CFO John Woods explained that Q4 NII strength was partly due to seasonal factors in deposit mix, particularly non-interest-bearing balances, which might moderate in 2026. He noted that while Q4's Net Interest Margin (NIM) was 110 basis points, the full-year 2025 NIM was 100 basis points, and 2026 is expected to be higher than 2025 but potentially lower than the Q4 run rate. He confirmed that terminated hedges would continue to be a tailwind, contributing about 2 basis points in Q4 with some lumpiness, and will have a positive impact into 2026.
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