Mark Jarvi

Mark Jarvi asked if Emera plans to extend its EPS guidance to a five-year forecast, aligning with the capital plan, or if it will maintain a three-year guidance when rolling it over next year. He also sought Emera's long-term view on the Maritime Link asset, its strategic value, and whether a minority sale would be considered to fund other rate-based investments.

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President and CEO Scott Balfour stated that while not fully decided, Emera reasonably expects to stick with a three-year EPS forecast for now. Regarding the Maritime Link, Balfour described it as a strategic asset, effectively an extension of Nova Scotia Power, regulated by the same body, and primarily separated for financing purposes to secure a federal loan guarantee. He confirmed that while minority sale options always exist, it's not something Emera is currently considering or pursuing.

Mark Jarvi asked about Emera's approach to EPS guidance, specifically whether the company plans to extend its guidance from three years to five years when rolling it over next year. He also inquired about the long-term view on the Maritime Link asset, its strategic value, and whether Emera would consider a minority sale to fund other rate-based investments.

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Scott Balfour, Emera's President and Chief Executive Officer, stated that while not fully decided, he reasonably expects Emera to stick with a three-year EPS forecast for now. Regarding the Maritime Link, Mr. Balfour described it as a strategic asset, effectively an extension of Nova Scotia Power, regulated by the same body, with its separation primarily for financing and federal loan guarantee purposes. He confirmed that a minority sale is not something Emera is currently considering or pursuing.

Asked about the process for building transmission for offshore wind in Nova Scotia, the path forward for new rates at NSPI, and the potential use of the ATM program given strong credit metrics.

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It's too early to define the transmission build process for offshore wind, but NSPI has franchise rights. The company remains vague on the NSPI rate process, only stating talks are constructive. The ATM is not a priority; a US hybrid offering is being considered to pre-emptively address 2026 refinancing needs.

Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets followed up on Nova Scotia transmission, asking about incumbent rights versus competitive bids for offshore wind infrastructure. He also asked about the path for new rates at NSPI and the impact of the New Mexico Gas sale delay on ATM usage.

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Peter Gregg, President & CEO of Nova Scotia Power, noted that while it's too early to know for sure, NSPI has franchise rights for transmission builds in the province. On rates, he reiterated that conversations are constructive. CFO Greg Blunden stated there is no change to the ATM plan and that the sale delay offers flexibility to pre-emptively address 2026 refinancings, possibly with a US hybrid offering.

Mark Jarvi questioned whether the U.S. government would bear all cost overruns for new nuclear builds under the partnership, the engagement with other stakeholders (EPC firms, utilities, offtakers) regarding this framework, and the timeline for finalizing the government opportunity agreement.

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CEO Connor Teskey clarified that under the U.S. government partnership, Westinghouse is a service provider, and the government bears cost overrun risk. He noted robust demand and willingness from construction, technology, offtake, and capital providers to participate in new nuclear buildout with socialization of cost overrun protections for opportunities like Santee Cooper. He also stated the government agreement is expected to be finalized around year-end (within 90 days of the announcement).

Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets inquired whether the U.S. government would bear all cost overruns for new nuclear builds under the partnership and the timeline for finalizing the agreement.

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CEO Connor Teskey clarified that under the U.S. government partnership, Westinghouse is a technology provider, with cost overrun risk and financing entirely with the U.S. government. He noted positive reception from stakeholders for socializing cost overrun protections in other opportunities. The agreement is expected to be finalized within 90 days of the announcement, around year-end.

Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets asked how Brookfield is adapting to U.S. market challenges like interconnection queues in PJM, whether they are prioritizing other regions, and if the Urban Grid platform continues to provide a competitive advantage. He also inquired about the growth case for batteries in Europe and which global markets offer the best returns for battery deployment.

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CEO Connor Teskey responded that considering interconnection speed has long been part of their strategy, citing the past acquisition of Urban Grid as an example of securing preferential queue positions. He affirmed that such platforms continue to offer a competitive advantage. On batteries, Teskey highlighted that with costs down over 60% and revenues rising, the economic case is 'pretty incredible.' He identified the U.S. as the top market for deployment at scale, followed by Australia, Southern Europe, and the Middle East, confirming that battery returns are currently at the top end of their target IRR range.

Mark Jarvi from CIBC asked how the broader renewable energy ecosystem can manage new tariff costs and questioned the overall health of the supply chain. He also inquired about the potential positive impact on equipment costs outside the U.S.

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Connor Teskey, an executive, and Hannah Labuschagne, Global Head of Procurement, explained that tariff impacts on total project costs are manageable, likely in the low double-digits, and can be passed through to customers while renewables remain the cheapest power source. They noted that their global diversification provides a material offset, as tariffs in one region (like the U.S.) can lead to lower equipment costs in others (like India), benefiting their global development pipeline. They expressed confidence in the supply chain's health, citing their domestic U.S. strategy and strong supplier relationships.

Mark Jarvi from CIBC asked about any recent shifts in discussions around U.S. tariffs or tax credits, requested specifics on megawatts contracted under the Microsoft agreement, and questioned how the company views share buybacks versus other investments given its current stock price.

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Connor Teskey, an executive, noted no new developments on tax credits and stated the company is prepared for uncertainty, which often favors larger, more capable players. He clarified the 10.5 GW Microsoft deal begins in 2026 but significant contracting is already occurring. Comparing the market to Q3 2023, Teskey confirmed that with the current share price, the company will 'absolutely be looking at doing share buybacks' alongside other growth investments.

Mark Jarvi asked about potential pauses in U.S. M&A due to election uncertainty, whether tech buyers are shifting their stance on 'additionality' for hydro assets, and the outlook for the Westinghouse nuclear business post-election.

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Executive Connor Teskey stated he doesn't expect a material impact on asset sales, as they are de-risked, and noted uncertainty could increase investment opportunities. On 'additionality,' he said the scale of power demand means different buyers have different views, and enhancing existing hydro can meet some needs. For Westinghouse, he described the election outcome as a 'pretty hard positive,' citing bipartisan support for nuclear and Westinghouse's strong position in both services and new reactor technology (AP1000 and AP300 SMR).

Mark Jarvi questioned if the U.S. government would absorb all cost overruns for new nuclear builds, the reception from other stakeholders on the framework, and the timeline for finalizing the U.S. government partnership agreement.

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CEO Connor Teskey clarified that under the U.S. government partnership, Westinghouse acts as a technology provider, with the U.S. government bearing cost overrun risk. He noted a very warm reception from construction companies, technology suppliers, offtakers, and capital providers regarding participating in new nuclear buildouts with shared cost overrun protections. He also stated that the U.S. government partnership agreement is expected to be finalized around year-end, within 90 days of the announcement.

Mark Jarvi asked how Brookfield is adapting to U.S. market challenges like interconnection queues, whether it's prioritizing easier regions, and about growth drivers in Europe from solar and battery cost declines. He also inquired about the top markets and returns for battery storage.

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CEO Connor Teskey clarified that managing interconnection has long been part of their strategy, citing the Urban Grid acquisition as a past example of securing queue positions. On batteries, he highlighted that with costs down over 60% and revenues rising, the economics are 'incredible.' Every development platform now has a battery strategy, with the U.S., Australia, and parts of Europe and the Middle East being key markets. He confirmed that battery returns are currently at the top end of their target IRR range.

Mark Jarvi from CIBC asked how the broader renewable energy ecosystem can manage tariff-related cost inflation and whether there are concerns about the supply chain's health. He also requested quantification of the positive impact on equipment availability and costs outside the U.S.

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Executive Connor Teskey stated that tariff impacts on total project costs are manageable, likely in the low-double-digits, and can be passed through to customers while renewables remain the cheapest form of power. Executive Hannah Labuschagne and Teskey both highlighted that their global diversification provides a material offset, as tariffs in one region (e.g., the U.S.) can lead to lower equipment costs in other regions where they operate, such as India, which is currently seeing historically low panel costs.

Mark Jarvi asked how the broader renewable energy ecosystem will manage tariff-related cost increases, the health of the supply chain, and whether the positive impact of lower equipment costs outside the U.S. could be quantified and sustained.

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Connor Teskey, an executive, and Hannah Labuschagne, Global Head of Procurement, asserted that overall project cost increases from tariffs are manageable, likely in the 'very low double digits,' and can be passed to customers while keeping renewables competitive. They explained that Brookfield's global platform creates a 'very, very material offset' by accessing equipment at lower prices in other regions, like India, where supply has increased due to U.S. tariffs, leading to 'historic lows' in panel costs there.

Mark Jarvi asked about recent intelligence on potential U.S. tariffs and tax credits, requested specific progress metrics on the Microsoft agreement, and questioned how the company views its own share price for buybacks versus other investments.

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Connor Teskey (executive) noted that the U.S. administration has not yet touched tax credits and that market uncertainty favors larger players like Brookfield. Regarding the Microsoft deal, he clarified the 10.5 GW agreement starts in 2026, but they are already contracting significant capacity ahead of that. On capital allocation, he compared the current market to Q3 2023, stating their focus is on execution while confirming that share buybacks are being considered given the current share price.

Mark Jarvi asked if the data center energy complex facilities leverage existing renewable or battery installations or if they are entirely new development sites, and whether this integration contributes to higher returns for these projects.

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Craig Cornelius, President and CEO, confirmed that all data center energy complexes build off either existing operating facilities or renewable and battery sites that were in development more than five years ago. He explained that the ability to bring large-scale power plants online credibly, coupled with robust interconnection queues and development in cost-beneficial regions, drives higher returns for these projects, similar to other large-scale renewable and storage projects in their pipeline.

Mark Jarvi asked whether the data center energy complex facilities build off existing renewable or battery installations or are entirely new development sites, and if leveraging existing assets factors into driving higher returns for these projects.

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President and CEO Craig Cornelius confirmed that all data center energy complex facilities build off either existing operating facilities or renewable and battery sites that were in development more than five years ago. He explained that the ability to bring large-scale power plants online credibly, coupled with robust interconnection queues and development in least-cost-benefit resource areas, is what drives good returns for all projects, including these larger complexes.

Mark Jarvi of CIBC Capital Markets asked about the growing role of battery storage in the long-term pipeline beyond 2029 and the status of origination conversations for battery contracts. He also inquired about progress with data center customers.

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CEO Craig Cornelius highlighted the company's strength in battery development, noting their continued eligibility for tax credits into the next decade and strong commercial demand in key markets. He also confirmed that dialogues with multiple major data center customers are progressing well for repowering projects and other multi-technology solutions.

Mark Jarvi of CIBC Capital Markets asked if the growing pipeline of battery storage projects post-2029 is a strategic hedge against potentially weaker solar and wind economics. He also requested an update on commercial progress with data center customers.

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CEO Craig Cornelius affirmed that battery storage is a significant competitive advantage, with projects eligible for tax credits well into the 2030s and strong commercial demand. On data centers, he confirmed successful contracting with hyperscalers for repowering projects and noted ongoing dialogues for larger, co-located resource solutions.

Mark Jarvi inquired about potential friction points for higher capital spend, specifically whether customer affordability or the balance sheet are concerns, or if equipment availability and permitting are the primary challenges. He also asked for an update on the initial 300 MW data center site's approval status and requirements for the next 300 MW investment decision, and Jocelyn Perry about further hybrid issuances in the funding plan.

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David Hutchens, President and CEO of Fortis Inc., emphasized that new large load customers can positively impact affordability by funding infrastructure growth, while acknowledging permitting, siting, and community support as factors. Susan Gray, President and CEO of UNS Energy, confirmed the Arizona Corporation Commission approval is key for the first 300 MW, with state permits for water also needed. Jocelyn Perry, Executive VP and CFO, stated no further hybrid issuances are in the current plan but capacity exists for future growth or market opportunities.

Mark Jarvi asked about potential friction points for higher capital expenditures, specifically if customer affordability or the balance sheet are concerns, or if it's primarily equipment availability and permitting. He also inquired about the approval status for the initial 300 MW data center site in Arizona, the shift to air cooling, and what's needed for investment decisions on subsequent data center load. Finally, he asked Jocelyn Perry if the five-year funding plan contemplates further hybrid issuances and their potential quantum.

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David Hutchens, President and CEO, emphasized that new large load customers are structured to pay for necessary infrastructure growth, aiming for a positive impact on customer affordability. He acknowledged other factors like community support, water usage (noting the shift to air-cooled data centers in Arizona), permitting, and siting. Susan (from TEP) confirmed that the energy supply agreement for the first 300 MW site is awaiting Arizona Corporation Commission approval by year-end, and the data center needs a state permit for well digging. Jocelyn Perry, Executive VP and CFO, stated that the current five-year funding plan does not include further hybrid issuances, but Fortis has capacity and may explore the hybrid market for future growth opportunities or depending on market conditions.

Mark Jarvi asked how Fortis would manage customer affordability across different subsidiaries like ITC and UNS if costs increase, and requested an update on the status of the Right of First Refusal (ROFR) legislation in Iowa.

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President and CEO David Hutchens explained that growth can be managed to be neutral or beneficial for customer bills, such as when replacing coal generation or adding large, self-funding loads. He noted ITC's projects must pass a benefit-cost test. Executive Linda Blair then reported that advocacy for the Iowa ROFR bill continues in the extended legislative session, and the company remains hopeful for its passage.

Mark Jarvi of CIBC Capital Markets questioned how the ongoing uncertainty in Iowa affects ITC's project procurement and capital spending plans for the next few years. He also asked about Fortis's advocacy position in the Arizona regulatory lag docket and the long-term strategic vision for the recently completed Wataynikaneyap (Watay) project.

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ITC executive Linda Blair stated that since the Iowa projects are in early stages, there is no immediate impact on supply chain or capital plans. UNS CEO Susan Gray explained that in Arizona, the company is advocating for either a forward test year or formulaic rates to reduce lag. President and CEO David Hutchens added that the Watay project is viewed as a strategic entry point into the Ontario market with no plans for divestment.

Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets inquired about the conditions under which Fortis might remove MISO Tranche 1 projects from its 5-year plan due to ROFR uncertainty and asked for refined figures on the project mix if the ROFR is not reinstated.

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President & CEO David Hutchens confirmed the capital plan is unchanged, as they still fully expect to build the projects and spending is back-end loaded. He emphasized Fortis's conservative approach, stating Tranche 2 projects won't be added until there is certainty. If all legal challenges fail, Hutchens stated the 'floor' or 'minimum' for Tranche 1 would be the 70% of projects located in existing rights-of-way, but reiterated his confidence in securing the entire portfolio.

Mark Jarvi of CIBC Capital Markets asked for the specific capacity allocation TransAlta received in Phase 1, which assets would serve the load, whether Phase 2 clarity is required to finalize a customer agreement, and why the company did not pursue acquiring allocations from others.

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President and CEO John Kousinioris declined to provide the specific allocation amount but stated they are comfortable with it. He clarified the load would be served by the entire portfolio, not just one unit, and that an MOU can be finalized before Phase 2 is complete. He also noted that repurposing underutilized assets is a key part of their strategy, akin to adding new generation.

Mark Jarvi sought details on the Nova partnership, including the triggers for an equity conversion and the timeline for projects. He also asked about TransAlta's funding capacity for further M&A and whether asset sales are being considered as a funding source.

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CEO John Kousinioris explained the Nova deal provides an option to acquire late-stage projects, likely starting in 2027-2028, which would require incremental capital. CFO Joel Hunter stated that future funding needs would prioritize capital rotation from the existing asset base. Kousinioris confirmed that the company has been selectively testing the market for potential divestitures to fund future growth.

Mark Jarvi asked for more detail on the Keephills data center project, including the number of potential counterparties and the initial load size. He also inquired about the Centralia coal-to-gas conversion timeline, capital needs, and potential gas supply constraints.

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President and CEO John Kousinioris stated they are in discussions with about 20 potential data center customers, including hyperscalers and co-locators, for an initial 400 MW offering. For the Centralia project, he and EVP Blain Van Melle outlined a plan for the unit to be down in 2026 for conversion and return to service around 2027. They noted the capital cost would be a fraction of a new build, and any initial gas supply issues would constrain run-time, not the total available capacity.

Mark Jarvi inquired about the share buyback program, asking if capital recycling could support it and if the $150 million target might be increased. He also asked about potential concessions for the Heartland deal and the future profitability of coal-to-gas assets given low forward curve prices.

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CEO John Kousinioris stated that capital recycling is primarily considered for strategic acquisitions or balance sheet management, not directly for buybacks. EVP & CFO Joel Hunter added that the company is on track with its $150 million buyback target and will re-evaluate increasing it once met, given the stock's perceived undervaluation. Regarding Heartland, Kousinioris confirmed they would consider concessions if they align with the original disciplined investment thesis. He also explained that the coal-to-gas assets' value is supported by a strong hedging program and their optionality for reliability services and data center contracts.

Mark Jarvi asked for an updated perspective on the regulatory path in New Hampshire, including when new rate cases could be filed. He also inquired about the status and timeline for the CalPeco application for interim rates.

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CFO Brian Chin clarified that the Granite State settlement includes a stay-out period until a new rate case can be filed on January 1, 2026, while EnergyNorth is still in settlement talks. Chief Transformation Officer Sarah MacDonald stated the CalPeco application is considered feasible but could not provide a timeline for a decision, noting California is a slower jurisdiction.

Mark Jarvi asked if the Missouri billing investigation could further delay the rate case timeline and whether the company would seek interim rates. He also questioned if the current SAP system is adequate or requires more investment.

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Chief Transformation Officer Sarah MacDonald stated they do not expect the investigation to further delay the rate case and are not currently considering interim rates. Incoming CEO Roderick West expressed confidence that the deployed systems, though experiencing a bumpy start, are proven and will ultimately improve customer experience, while acknowledging that evolving customer expectations will require ongoing capital investment.

Mark Jarvi from CIBC Capital Markets questioned the change in tone regarding utility capital spending—from potential acceleration to a reduction—and asked about the plan for proceeds once credit metrics are met.

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CEO Chris Huskilson explained the shift is driven by a need for increased discipline to ensure capital investments earn appropriate returns with minimal regulatory lag. CFO Darren Myers added that while the long-term ability to invest $1 billion annually remains, it is contingent on first improving returns. Regarding proceeds, Myers noted they will seek an optimal capital structure and provide more details at a future Investor Day.

Questioned the New Mexico regulatory process regarding potential amendments, economic and customer growth trends in Florida, and the mix of that growth between residential and C&I.

Answer

The company does not intend to amend the New Mexico application but will provide rebuttal testimony to address intervenor concerns. In Florida, economic and customer growth remains strong and consistent, and the economic development pipeline is active with non-data center C&I opportunities, including onshoring.

Inquired about the approval timeline for the New Mexico Gas sale, the status of settlement discussions, and sought clarification on outlooks for Nova Scotia Power's 2025 earnings (including a tax recovery) and Peoples Gas's ROE management.

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Greg Blunden (executive) expects the New Mexico Gas sale to be resolved by the end of Q3, with settlement talks not significantly altering the timeline. He confirmed the NSPI earnings outlook for 2025 is comparable to 2024's adjusted earnings. For Peoples Gas, the company is managing costs and has filed for new rates to stay within its ROE band despite growth-driven capital needs.

Sought clarification on the timing and finality of the asset sale announcement, asked about the current state of the hybrid debt market, and inquired about the potential for data center-driven load growth at Tampa Electric.

Answer

An announcement on asset sales is expected by the end of June. The US hybrid debt market has become more attractive. While Tampa Electric's current growth is strong without data centers, they are positioning to attract this new load, which would be incremental and beneficial for customer affordability, but any major impact would be beyond the current rate case.

Mark Jarvi sought clarification on whether the pursuit of a higher equity thickness would apply to both business segments and asked if tariff pressures on smaller utilities could accelerate LDC consolidation.

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CFO Harry Taylor clarified that the case for a higher equity thickness is 'clearest' for the transmission business but not ruled out for distribution. President and CEO David Lebeter confirmed that pressures on smaller utilities could drive consolidation and that Hydro One is already seeing an 'uptick in interest' from potential sellers.

Mark Jarvi of CIBC asked for confirmation that higher capital spending in 2025-2026 translates to a higher rate base and earnings. He also questioned if it was possible to exceed the new 8% top-end EPS growth guidance and if any provincial election platforms could be positive drivers.

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CFO Henry Taylor confirmed higher spending translates to a higher rate base and earnings but stated that exceeding the 8% EPS growth guidance would be a 'high bar' and is not expected. President and CEO David Lebeter commented that the provincial election has been focused on non-energy issues and he views the outcome as neutral to positive for the company.

Mark Jarvi asked about potential adjustments to the company's funding plan, the status of the OEB's cost of capital proceedings, and whether Hydro One is advocating for a higher equity thickness.

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President and CEO David Lebeter stated there are no changes to the established funding plan, emphasizing a tactical approach to debt issuance. CFO Harry Taylor commented that the OEB proceedings are progressing well and expressed confidence in a favorable outcome for investors. He confirmed Hydro One has advocated for higher equity thickness to support its growth phase.

Mark Jarvi of CIBC inquired about the impact of government housing policies on future rate applications, the company's engagement with the federal government on housing targets, and the debt financing strategy in light of the current yield curve.

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President and CEO David Lebeter said the company is actively engaging with homeowners' associations to facilitate new connections for housing growth, which CFO Chris Lopez added is part of integrated planning with the IESO. On financing, Chris Lopez stated there is no drastic change in strategy; the company will be opportunistic and aims to lengthen its average debt term to 15 years over time, noting the benefit of funding short-term is diminishing as the yield curve flattens.

Asked for specifics on the 2024 funding plan, an update on equity deployment guidance, a comparison of returns from acquisitions versus development, and the scope of difficulty in finding accretive M&A deals.

Answer

The 2024 funding plan is flexible, utilizing a combination of credit facilities, corporate debt, and project finance. The previous equity deployment guidance is largely unchanged. Development projects generally offer higher returns than acquisitions, and these returns have been stable recently but are sensitive to interest rates. Finding attractively priced acquisitions in the mid-market segment requires significant effort.

Inquired about the security of the 2024 investment pipeline, trends in investment returns, and a comparison of the Spanish and North American markets, including potential for value arbitrage through asset sales.

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The company confirmed most 2024 investments are commercially secured, returns are in the double-digits and exceeding new hurdles, and that North America currently offers better returns than a lagging European market, which could create arbitrage opportunities.