Matthew Howlett's questions to Carlyle Credit Income Fund (CCIF) leadership • Q4 2024
Question
Inquired about potential NII drag from recent capital raising, future capital raising strategies, the terms of the new convertible preferred stock, the outlook for CLO refinancing and resets, and sought clarification on the fund's tax situation, dividend policy, and the relationship between GAAP NII and core NII as a measure of earnings power.
Answer
The executives acknowledged a minor NII drag from capital raising but don't expect a material increase going forward. They plan to use all capital channels (ATM, direct offerings, convertibles) to grow the fund. They detailed the attractive terms of the convertible preferred, noting its accretive conversion feature. While CLO reset activity is high, CCIF's younger portfolio requires fewer resets than peers. They also explained the complex tax accounting, a one-time timing mismatch impacting 2024 taxable income, and stated that core NII is the best proxy for the fund's distribution requirements and true earnings power.