Question · Q4 2025
Pooran Sharma sought clarification on the EBITDA contribution from Murphy USA's new-to-industry (NTI) stores, specifically the $35 million to $40 million figure for a 50-store class at maturity, and how this translates into cumulative contributions by 2027 and 2028. He also asked about the higher-than-expected PS&W and RINs contribution in Q4, the dynamics at play, and whether PS&W margins in Q1 should be expected to stay above the $0.02-$0.025 per gallon range due to rising RIN prices.
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Mindy West, President and CEO, clarified that each 50-store NTI class is expected to generate $35 million to $40 million in EBITDA after a three-year ramp. She explained that by 2027, contributions from the 2024, 2025, and 2026 NTI classes will cumulatively move the needle, even without fuel environment normalization, with 2026 being an inflection point for sustained EBITDA. She cautioned that a $120 million cumulative contribution by 2028 is extreme due to the initial drag from new stores. For Q4 PS&W, she attributed the strength to stronger arbitrage and line-space values, noting more volatility than Q3. She stated it's too early to predict Q1 PS&W due to winter storms but expects the full-year to remain within the previously guided band unless prolonged volatility occurs. She reiterated that RIN prices are generally baked into the gas price, balancing out over time despite temporary dislocations.
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