Question · Q4 2025
Scott Schneeberger asked about the impact of flu on funeral volumes in Q4 2025 and Q1 2026, and whether the 2026 funeral volume guidance (flat to slightly down) reflects conservatism or an ongoing trend, and when improvement is expected. He also inquired about the key drivers that could push the 2026 EPS guidance (5%-13% growth) to the lower or higher end of the range.
Answer
Chairman and CEO Tom Ryan stated that flu is not significantly impacting funeral volumes. He explained that volume trends are influenced by the diminishing COVID pull-forward effect and a decline in 'excess deaths' from various causes. While national data shows volumes down in 2024 and preliminary 2025, a compounded annual growth rate from pre-COVID 2019 levels suggests a healthy market share. For 2026, he expects flat to slightly down volumes, with January being soft, but anticipates volumes to increase in 2027-2029 due to demographics. Strong sales activity in cemetery is a positive. Mr. Ryan indicated that continued soft funeral volumes (e.g., a 200 basis point decline) would challenge the lower end of the EPS guidance, while flat volumes, strong sales, positive SCI Direct trends, and expense management would support the higher end.
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