Accolade - Q4 2021
May 5, 2021
Transcript
Speaker 0
Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Accolade 4Q 'twenty one Earnings Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
I would now like to hand the conference over to your host, Todd Friedman with Acrobat. Thank you. You may begin.
Speaker 1
Thanks, operator. Welcome everyone to our fiscal Q4 year end earnings call. With me today are our CEO, Rajiv Singh and our CFO, Steve Barnes. Shantanu Nundi, our Chief Medical Officer, will join us for the question and answer portion of the call. Let me first start by saying I apologize, we actually omitted the Q4 table, although it has the summary numbers and the rest of the tables are correct in the release.
So we'll issue an amended release shortly with the full table details for you. Before I turn the call over to Rajiv, please note that we'll be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures that we believe are important in evaluating Accolade's performance. Details on the relationship between these non GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures and the reconciliations thereof can be found in the press release that's posted on our website. Also, please note that certain statements made during this call will be forward looking statements as defined with the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause the actual results for Accolade to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the call.
For additional information, please refer to our cautionary statement in our press release and our filings with the SEC, all of which are available on our website. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Rajiv Singh.
Speaker 2
Thank you, Todd, and thank you all for joining us here today. Fiscal 2021 was a year of transformation for Accolade. We were extremely well positioned at the outset of a global pandemic to be a source of help and guidance for our customers and for our members, and that led to opportunities for us to grow and to innovate. We took advantage of those opportunities. Among the highlights for the year were a consistent investment in innovation, which yet again yielded incredible value for our customers and our members.
We delivered new offerings like Accolade COVID response care, intelligent provider matching and a suite of integrated care offerings with partners that started with mental health with Ginger. Additionally, it was our 1st full year deploying Accolade Total Care and Total Benefits. Combined, these offerings dramatically expanded our solution footprint. We can meet customers wherever they are and we can grow with them as they evolve. That innovation paid off with a strong organic growth rate across all market segments, strategic, enterprise and middle market, Which led to strong financial performance.
We doubled our customer base again to more than 100 logos covering more than 2,100,000 members And annual contract value increased 31%. Additionally, we launched our pilot program with the Defense Health Agency this past year, And very recently, we learned that we have received approval for the 2nd year of our pilot. This renewal is obviously a positive signal. Accolade will now have a chance to continue demonstrating value in order to expand our presence with the TRICARE Select population. We thank you for your support in our capital raising initiative this year as well.
From our IPO in July to our follow on offering in October To our convertible note offering in March, we were able to leverage that stronger balance sheet to close our acquisition of SecondMD in March And to announce our intention to acquire PlushCare in April. 2ndMD doubled our addressable market and added approximately 300 customers and 7,000,000 members to our base. We've quickly moved to a more integrated model where expert medical opinion is now being sold Together as a part of Accolade Total Care and an add on conversation with existing customers, we're seeing great traction with our customers for cross sell and up sell opportunities. We're in the early days of integration and the acquisition is going as well as planned. Upon closure of the PlusCare transaction, we'll have grown our addressable market yet again to between $200,000,000,000 $300,000,000,000 More than 10x our opportunity from the beginning of fiscal 2021.
Accolade today is an even stronger company than the one that went public in July. We're bigger in our size, broader in our footprint and attacking a materially larger addressable market. And most importantly, We're deeper with our customers and our members than we've ever been. And that's reflected in our record fiscal 'twenty one financial performance. Steve will, of course, give you far more details on the results, but a quick recap shows we came in ahead of our preannouncement on both the top and bottom lines.
For the year, revenue of $170,400,000 grew 29% year over year And adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $27,000,000 compared to a loss of $33,000,000 in fiscal 2020. While we're pleased with fiscal 'twenty one, we see even more opportunity and growth in fiscal 'twenty two and beyond. Our vision is clear. We build long term, high trust, longitudinal relationships with members and their families, and we improve clinical outcomes and we lower health care costs. Those relationships are powered by our frontline care teams and an extraordinarily differentiated data set.
AAON has now independently validated twice in the last 4 years that we deliver on that vision with demonstrated results. As we add more value to those relationships via our own innovation, via partnership and via M and A, We further improve outcomes and we drive better financial performance for our customers. It's as simple as that. Yet, Perhaps it's simpler for Accolade rather than for others because our foundation is built on advocacy and navigation, a space that we pioneered and have led for years. Advocacy and navigation are the building block services that create engagement and trust Between our members and our frontline care teams, everything we do, whether it's in our core offerings or new areas like expert medical opinion and primary care, Is made better by that trust.
Since our founding, we've invested significantly in building long term relationships with a significant percentage of the members we serve, not just the high cost ones. When a member suffers an acute event or experiences some condition focused inflection point in her healthcare journey, Our success is rooted in the fact that we were already building a relationship with that member long before that event. It's an approach that differentiates Accolade and is the bedrock of the results we deliver. Our mission is for every person to live their healthiest life. Our vision is to achieve the quadruple aim, better outcomes, lower costs and delighted members and care teams.
Our strategy for achieving that objective is innovation, partnership and M and A. Looking at the year ahead, we see great opportunities on each of those vectors. Our innovation roadmap will now include new clinical programs delivered both via partnership and internally. Additionally, we'll be adding electronic medical record data, case From a partnership and collaboration perspective, we expect our existing relationships with companies like Ginger and Virta among others to continue to thrive as we grow. And while we're at it, let's talk about collaboration with the ecosystem more broadly.
Healthcare is a $3,000,000,000,000 ecosystem. No single vendor is going to solve the entire problem. Instead, our job is and always will be to do what's in the best interest of the people that we serve. That means we'll be collaborating with brick and mortar health systems, digital health providers and everything in between to get the best outcomes for our members. We will never stray from that principle.
On the topic of collaboration continued, a brief aside here on carriers. With the acquisition of SecondMD, our already fruitful partnerships with carriers like Humana and Blue Shield of California have now been joined by partners like Optum, Aetna, CAMBIA and others. Increasingly, our capabilities are being viewed as opportunities for carriers to differentiate themselves, And we expect that trend to continue to play out in fiscal 'twenty two. And it is on the back of that success that we're taking the next Our integrated care teams, Now including primary care physicians with unprecedented data at their fingertips and proven support teams behind them, We'll be in a position to impact outcomes and deliver value for our members in a way that is unprecedented in the industry. In the future, we expect to be able to reliably and measurably improve clinical outcomes for our customers, while at the same time delivering negative trend line, Actually eating into the waste and misuse that plagues our system today.
And we expect to share the value that we create for our customers when we do. Our first discussions with customers regarding this pending acquisition and our offering strategy have been extremely well received, And we look forward to updating you on these conversations after the transaction is approved and closed. To turn this vision into reality, we're focusing on integrating these capabilities tightly with our core services and on retaining the incredible people who have joined or will join Accolade as a part of these transactions. Our mission is to achieve the quadruple aim and we are on our path to doing so. Now I'll turn the call over to Steve Barnes, our CFO, to cover our results and forward outlook before returning for some closing remarks.
Speaker 3
Thanks, Raj. I'll start with a report on our results for the full year and Q4 of fiscal 'twenty one and then provide a first look at our fiscal 2022 guidance. We generated $59,200,000 in revenue in the 4th fiscal quarter, representing 33% year over year growth and $170,400,000 for the full year or 29% growth over fiscal 'twenty, both ahead of our initial and updated guidance ranges provided in January March. As a reminder, we closed the SecondMD acquisition after the Performance and growth in the 4th quarter was largely attributable to better than forecast achievement of performance related revenue and customer membership headcounts, including the airlines. Fiscal Q4 adjusted gross margin of 53.8% compared favorably to 50 8% in the prior year period.
Remember that fiscal Q4 gross margin is positively impacted by the recognition of performance related revenue. Overall adjusted gross margin for the year was 45.6% compared to 44.6% last year. Adjusted operating expenses increased slightly to 49% of revenues in Q4 of fiscal 'twenty one versus 46% of revenues in the prior year period. For the full year, adjusted operating expenses improved to 61 percent of revenues for fiscal 'twenty one compared to 70% for fiscal year 'twenty. With respect to future spending, fiscal 'twenty one was an atypical year with lower than planned spending.
In particular, we slowed down hiring at the start of COVID and T and E spend was virtually non existent, offset somewhat by the increase in G and A costs associated with becoming a public company. Those areas will naturally revert back to normal in fiscal 'twenty two, including a bit higher on public company costs. Even before we account for the integration investments in our acquisitions, I would expect spending to be higher as we catch up with that underspend in fiscal year 'twenty one. Adjusted EBITDA in the Q4 of fiscal 'twenty one was $2,700,000 which compares to $2,000,000 in the Q4 of the prior year. This is a significant outperformance relative to our initial guidance provided in January and was significantly driven by the over performance in PG related revenue, which carries a high margin contribution.
And for the full year, adjusted EBITDA loss was $26,900,000 or 16 percent of revenue, which compares to a loss of $33,100,000 or 25 percent of revenue in fiscal 'twenty. Turning to the balance sheet. Cash and cash equivalents at the end of the fiscal year totaled $434,000,000 After the quarter ended, in March of 2021, We paid $236,000,000 related to the SecondMD acquisition and received $245,000,000 in proceeds after estimated from our convertible notes offering. So on a pro form a basis, cash and cash equivalents were approximately $443,000,000 Walking into the 1st fiscal quarter. Next, I'll update you on our accounts receivable balance.
AR decreased from the end of the 3rd quarter to $9,100,000 at the end of Q4, representing about 14 days revenue outstanding for the quarter. This change primarily relates to a decrease in receivables from our airline customers. And since the end of the fiscal year, the remainder of the airline's AR balances have been collected in On a go forward basis, we expect DSO to normalize in the 20 to 30 range. Finally, we had about 55,700,000 shares common stock outstanding as of the end of fiscal 'twenty one. And post the close of the Second MD transaction, we have approximately 58,700,000 shares outstanding.
Note that these do not include any shares related to the SecondMD earn out or the proposed acquisition of PlushCare. Turning to the metrics that we report on annually. While our business continues to grow and evolve, the key business measures that we use internally continue to be critical items for understanding the foundation, growth and health of the business. The acquisition of SecondMD And as always, our goal is to provide meaningful color that aligns our disclosures to the way we run the business as well as provide visibility into the foundation of our forecasting. One change that we will implement this year will be an update to ACV customers and member counts that we'll provide on the Q3 earnings call after the primary selling season has concluded and we started the traditional January go lives.
And as of year end fiscal 2021, Standalone Accolade ACV was $211,500,000 31% higher than a year ago. SecondMD has a slightly different model with the majority of their revenue in a PEPM model like Accolade and a smaller portion in a case rate model. We will report the amount of annualized PEPM revenue as ACV in order to align to our historical disclosure. On that basis, SecondMD adds approximately $36,300,000 to yield a pro form a ACV of about $248,000,000 representing an increase of 54% over the year ago number. And gross dollar retention was 99%, equal to a year ago and above the level we typically forecast, representing another year of incredibly strong customer retention.
Finally, we had 112 customers and more than 2,100,000 members at the end of the year. And as we said before, SecondMD adds approximately 300 customers and 7,000,000 members to our platform. Now turning to forward financial guidance. For fiscal 2022, we expect revenue in the range of $260,000,000 to $265,000,000 representing 54% growth over the prior year Breaking this down further, we've said that we forecast the core Accolade business at approximately 25% growth, And we expect SecondMD to go faster than Accolade. So at the midpoint of this range, that represents approximately 35 40% growth for SecondMD over their calendar 2020 revenue of $35,000,000 which we've reported previously.
Combining SecondMD's $35,000,000 in calendar year 'twenty revenue with Accolade's $170,000,000 in fiscal 2021 revenue, Not a perfect science, but a good proxy, would give you about 28% growth at the midpoint of the guidance range. I'll comment on PlusCare in a moment, but we believe the addition of virtual primary care will enable us to maintain this higher growth rate beyond fiscal 2022. Adjusted EBITDA loss for fiscal 'twenty two is expected to be in the range of $38,000,000 to $42,000,000 representing an adjusted EBITDA loss approximately 15% of revenues at the midpoint. As we stated before, 2nd MD has gross margins that are similar to Accolade and is not yet profitable on a stand alone basis. And we are investing to accelerate and optimize the integration between our companies.
For the 1st fiscal quarter ending in May, we expect revenue in the range of $54,000,000 to $56,000,000 representing 53% growth over the prior year at the midpoint and adjusted EBITDA loss in the range of $16,000,000 to $19,000,000 Now as you think about your models and our long term targets, please always remember that maintaining a superlative member and customer experience is critical to our success. When we make acquisitions, even as we invest in clinical process integration, distribution alignment and other operational needs, We will always have a primary focus on our frontline care teams, making sure they're equipped to serve members and customers at extraordinarily high satisfaction levels to drive favorable outcomes and cost savings. That means additional hiring, training, tools and technology to bring together multiple capabilities as we seek to reduce the complexity and cost of the healthcare system. These investments impact gross margins. So while our long term gross margin target remains in the mid-50s, we expect to remain roughly flat in the mid-forty percent for the next year or 2 before progressing towards that higher target.
And I'll add one more comment about adjusted EBITDA loss and the path to breakeven. Adjusted EBITDA loss improved year over year to negative 16% in fiscal 2021 from negative 25% of revenue in fiscal 2020, largely on the strength of our revenue growth, but also positively impacted by lower spend related to COVID. With the addition of SecondMD and the pending acquisition of PlushCare, our TAM will increase to more than $200,000,000,000 And we plan to invest significantly in realizing that massively expanded market opportunity. In pursuing this even larger opportunity, We remain consistent in our bias towards top line growth with attractive unit economics and a demonstrable path towards breakeven. On that note, while we're not providing guidance for PlusCare until our next earnings call after the transaction closes, We do understand that you're beginning to look at how this will impact the model.
So let us provide a few comments. We've stated that PlusCare's unaudited calendar 2020 revenue was approximately $35,000,000 and the acquisition will be accretive to our revenue growth rate. So you can consider PlusCare about the same size and contribution at SecondMD on an annualized basis. PlusCare's adjusted EBITDA margin is closer to negative 20%. And we have said that we intend to invest on top of that in order to build out an enterprise virtual primary care business.
Prior to including PlushCare, our guidance for fiscal 2022 is for an adjusted EBITDA loss of 15% of revenues, with a goal to improve that percentage each year to roughly negative 10% in fiscal 2023 and then continuing to make consistent positive progress And consistent progress towards breakeven every year. And as I mentioned earlier, we believe that the addition of PlushCare will enable us to maintain this higher revenue growth rate for the next few years at a minimum. Hopefully, this gives you a sense of how we forecast the business, run it with discipline and also show that our balance sheet is more than substantial to support a path to breakeven on a purely operational basis. And now let me turn it back over to Raj for his concluding remarks.
Speaker 2
Thank you, Steve. Fiscal 'twenty one was an amazing year for Accolade, But we have even bigger aspirations for fiscal 'twenty two and the years beyond it. I'll conclude by stating what is fairly obvious by now. The acquisition of PlusCare and the addition of Virtual Primary Care materially changes the contours of our business. Aside from opening a huge market opportunity, it opens the door for It creates a platform for us to lean hard on our track record of delivering value in the form of engagement, satisfaction and cost savings and change the way health care works in this country for our customers.
As we've demonstrated with the innovation we've delivered this year with our fundraising activities and with 2 important acquisitions now, Our aspiration is to play a material role in improving healthcare in this country for the people that we serve and to build a great and enduring business. We wake up every day and think about how to fix an industry that's responsible for half of all personal bankruptcies in the country That represents 20% of the GDP and that grows at a rate that surpasses GDP, wage growth and most corporate profits. If you're an investor in Accolade, I think it's because you believe we have a chance to be that great and enduring company, and we truly appreciate the confidence you've shown in us. The past year has presented challenges that none of us ever thought we'd face, but we remain focused on our mission and on our vision to help every person live their healthiest life. We're more motivated than ever to reach that goal.
So thank you very much for being here. With that operator, I'd like to open the call up to questions.
Speaker 0
Your first question comes from Michael Cherny from Bank of America. Your line is open.
Speaker 4
Good afternoon and congratulations on a strong end to your fiscal year. I want to dive in a little bit on some of that Spend dynamic. I guess for a company that continues to expand its TAM, seeing a spend to grow mentality It's not surprising at all, but Steve, you had some comments about remaining disciplined. And so as you think about that spend, can you just walk us through again some of the metrics that you hold yourself against and making sure that the spend that you're pursuing, the investments you're pursuing are paying off in terms of growth and returns?
Speaker 3
Sure. And thanks for the question, Mike. A couple of things. Here's how we think about it. If you think even going back To a year ago, when we laid out the company's plan going forward, we talked about belief that we strong belief that we could grow the Accolade Core business 25% or more each year and we've done that over the past several years that we could take gross margins from the low 30s 3 years ago into the 40s through investments in innovation and technology and consistently improve our adjusted EBITDA loss, which was 3 years ago in the 40s and then progressed into the 41 and then to 25 and then this year at 16 as we just ended.
And now as we look in front of us and see a very large 10x size of TAM, we say to ourselves, all right, We believe we can grow, as we said in here, not only at the 25% core growth rate with Accolade, but even faster with the addition of SecondMD And with PlushCare. And we do that with an eye towards if we can continue to do so at attractive gross margins, Which today in the mid-40s are attractive. We believe we can go higher, but we're going to make some smart investments here as we add these capabilities. And then that adjusted EBITDA loss, we can take it. It will remain roughly flat in fiscal 'twenty two in that 15% or a bit higher range.
And then in the year after chunk down, what we're seeing there, Mike, are the following: very strong attractive return rates On sales and marketing spend, which you see in terms of the ACV growth rate and extremely high customer retention. And when you weave that together with the results from the AAON study, their performance guarantees and the fact that we know we're saving money for customers And this larger TAM, that tells us that we're doing the right things and we're getting the right returns and we believe strongly that doing so with that continued discipline and Jumping down towards breakeven over the next couple of years as we grow at that kind of rate is how we think about that overall P and L discipline while we Attack in the very early stages in extremely large market with a differentiated approach.
Speaker 4
Got it. And as you think about the expansion of the market, you still also do have a core business that's performing fairly well with strong customer adds. How do you see the competitive dynamics playing out there in a market that a lot of companies coming out from different angles, but appears to be coming increasingly competitive?
Speaker 2
Hey, Mike, this is Raj. Thanks for the question and thanks for being here. Here's the way we think about the competitive dynamics and always have. We're in a category that we think that we largely invented 10 years ago. And in that category, We've seen a number of companies over the last 4 or 5 years pivot into the space, looking at the value that's being delivered in the space.
Ultimately, our view is that in order to really deliver high quality advocacy and navigation services and then weave in the incremental capabilities Like second opinions and primary care that we're talking about today, you need to be able to invest in building long term relationships on a longitudinal basis With individuals with a wide majority of that population. By and large, we think we're unique in our capacity to do that Reliably with high percentages of the population leveraging a differentiated data set that we've pulled together over the years And then in turn reliably prove the cost savings via things like the Aon study that Steve referenced. We put a percentage of our fees at risk with every customer that we serve. It's because we know we can deliver cost savings on an ongoing basis. There will always be, particularly anytime the leader in this space is growing at attractive rates, there will always be new Our job is to continue to set the pace as it relates to the value that we deliver to our members and our customers.
And we think we've been pretty active in doing so over the last year.
Speaker 0
Your next question is from the line of Robert Jones of Goldman Sachs. You may ask your question.
Speaker 5
Great. Thanks for taking the question.
Speaker 6
I guess just looking at
Speaker 5
the revenue guide The disclosure about more than doubling the customer base and appreciate the insight on how to think about SecondMV. It does look like revenue Per customer in the legacy Accolade business is down a bit. I was just hoping maybe you could share a little bit more insight into size of customer mix, Average PMPMs, what type of offerings the newer customers might be turning on versus maybe like the legacy customer base? Just Anything around kind of bridging that gap between the overall revenue and the number of customers would be helpful.
Speaker 3
Sure, Bob. Thanks for the question, Steve. Yes, as we've grown the business over the past couple of years and you've Seeing our customer number accelerate, you've seen that happen across all the segments and we've talked a lot about how we segment the market into Strategic customers, middle market and then enterprise in the middle, much of the growth has happened on a pure logo count basis. In the mid market, which we consider to be customers with employees of about 500 up to about 5,000, As we build out those distribution capabilities, form partnerships with companies like Humana and others to reach customers of all sizes, So you will see a bit of revenue per customer compression there by design. It's our job and our intention to be able to reach a broader set of the market.
We also from over the past couple of years have introduced this multi product suite that has different price points. So Oftentimes, but not always, when we're reaching some of those smaller customers, we might start with a total benefits or a total care that's at that lower price point. The part that gives us great confidence, Bob, about what we're doing there and the take rates As we see consistent renewals, the very high retention rates that we talked about and the wins that we're having in the market that's showing up in terms of The growth in this year's revenue, this past year revenue and the ACV number headed into fiscal 'twenty two.
Speaker 0
Your next question is from the line of Vicki Goldwasser from Morgan Stanley. You may ask your question.
Speaker 7
Yes. Hi. Good afternoon. So a couple of questions here. First of all, on SecondMD, think you're talking about growth of 35% to 40%.
It's a little bit higher than what we're modeling. So does this 35% to 40% includes cross selling benefit or is it the Standalone growth profile of SecondMD? And then my second question related to behavioral health. I mean, our channel checks and We're hearing from payers and employers. There is real strong, especially post COVID demand for behavioral health.
So one, what kind of demand are you seeing for your offering with the employer base? Is it helping you win new clients? And then do you have any data points maybe to share with us around how behavioral health helps lower Medical expense, because I think you're always focused on we really have to kind of like quantify it and do the studies. So, if you can share any of those, that would be great.
Speaker 2
Sure. Let me jump in on this one first, Ricky. First of all, thank you for being here and thanks for the question. This is Raj and Steve maybe you can jump in if you've got anything to throw on top. First of all, as I relate to your question regarding SecondMD.
I think positively SecondMD has Demonstrated an attractive growth rate in its core business in large part because of its differentiated service it's delivered And those capabilities are what attracted us to the company, the capacity to deliver a consult within 3 to 5 days, make it a live consult with an expert As opposed to a written consultation like the rest of the market, has given the 2nd MD team a capacity to deliver great differentiation and competitive win loss. Incrementally to that 35% to 40% growth rate, certainly there's a little bit of cross selling or there is a modest amount of cross selling or up factored into that number. And no doubt, we expect that over the years to continue to grow. As it relates to the DH question, first, let me jump in and give you a little color commentary on why we think It's so powerful within the context of what we do. And then I'll turn it over to Shantanu to speak a little bit to the value that it delivers from a clinical perspective.
In our view, BH has long been wrapped into everything that we do. We've Accolade's core Advocacy and navigation services have always included behavioral health specialists as a part of our process. One of the reasons PlusCare was so attractive to us Was that embedded behavioral health element or a mental health element into the way primary care physicians were practicing? All of which is geared around the idea that higher risk populations Higher propensity to deal with behavioral health issues and if you can deal with both the physical health issue and the mental health issue In tandem, you have an opportunity to materially improve outcomes. Shantanu, let me turn it over to you to talk a little bit about our clinical philosophy there.
Speaker 8
Yes, absolutely. And I love the question. A core part of the strategy clinically speaking was we wanted to get to the right members, Right. We know that with mental health, one of the big challenges is that oftentimes those conditions go unrecognized and under diagnosed, And that there's significant signal with them. So getting to the right number was a core part of it.
The second was that right decision, right? Our perspective is that we just want to get people to the best possible provider for them. And so with mental health, that might be A virtual provider that might be a brick and mortar provider that might require medication therapy that might not. And so really getting to That best decision was critical and then finally the right path that we know that often these folks Don't necessarily follow-up on the next steps, that sometimes that longitudinal support that they need to really Be able to get through the entire recovery process is lacking. And so we wanted to make sure that we're with the member every step of the way, ensuring That things don't fall through the cracks.
And so what we're seeing in the very early data, as you know, this is a new solution that's been out for us less than a year Is that we're starting to see real traction amongst along those dimensions that we're pretty excited about.
Speaker 3
And Ricky, this is Steve. I just want to circle back to close the loop on your question about SecondMD and their growth rate, and I think your point was cross selling. You're right, 2nd MD is a rapidly growing business as well on its own. We are Very deep in the integration of combining the capabilities and Accolade's capabilities into an offering That is receiving early strong feedback from the market, but it is early and there's a relatively modest amount of Assumed cross selling in the numbers that we provided about guidance for this year.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from Jalendra Singh of Credit Suisse. You may ask your question.
Speaker 9
Yes. Thank you and hello everyone. Thanks for all the color on ACV on standalone Accolade and our second MD. I know you have shared in past How on standalone accolades, are you have captured ACV across various quarters and how that is split across various buckets of fixed And operational performance and savings, can you provide similar split for 2nd MD ACV? How should we think about the Quarter capture there and the split across various buckets?
Speaker 3
Sure. Hi, Jalendra, it's Steve. With as we mentioned in the comments, 2ndMD's model is a bit different. They don't have the same types of PGs as accolade is typically either a PMPM in some cases, case rate. So the PEPM model and that $37,000,000 that I spoke about in SecondMD's ACV number is similar to Accolade in the sense that it's a number that we would expect to earn.
It's roughly members times the PEPM rate on the books at the end of the year. And most of their revenue is generated SecondMD's revenue is generated from that model. There is certainly an additional part that is case rate and variable price times quantity That would be on top of that. And so that's included in the guidance, the revenue guidance that is P and L guidance for fiscal 2022, But that case rate portion would not be in the ACV number.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from Jeff Garro of Piper Sandler. You may ask your question.
Speaker 6
Yes, Good afternoon. Congrats on the results and thanks for taking the question. I want to ask about your go to market approach with the new acquisitions and the cross selling opportunity that you've Spoken about, just curious how you expect to balance the full vision you have for navigation plus expert medical opinion plus virtual primary care, While making sure your sales people don't get too far ahead of themselves on the timeline for the step by step operational and
Speaker 2
Thanks for the question, Jeff. This is Raj and I appreciate you being here. And I appreciate the question very much. At the core of the value we deliver to our customers, and we've talked I talked a little bit about This in my prepared remarks is the foundational element of building a relationship, a trust based relationship with a huge preponderance of the population Powered by a data set that we think is extraordinarily differentiated. Everything we add from there, whether that's second opinions, primary care or our own clinical programs Are all geared around adding incremental value to those populations by improving their outcomes and lowering cost.
And so what you'll see in our integration strategy 1st and foremost, we're investing in integration. We want there to be seamless workflows and we want the process to mirror The needs of the consumer as opposed to the silos that exist in healthcare today. Secondly, you'll see us embedding primary care and expert medical In each of the core platforms that are a part of Accolade's that are how Accolade lands with customers today because we fundamentally believe Both Expert Medical Opinion and Primary Care add value to any member that we're serving regardless of the platform they're working with us on. And 3rd, we're one of the things we really looked at in both of the acquisitions that we've Taken part in, in the last couple in the last year, our technology stacks that allow integration to occur at pace, Being we talked at length about the idea that we wanted teams that were culturally aligned, services that were built around longitudinal relationships and tech stacks that allowed us To integrate at pace, at scale. We expect that that's true on both of the companies that we have one that we've already closed and the other that we expect to close next month.
And so we expect to be able to deliver these integrations at pace and obviously our sales teams are anxious for us to do so.
Speaker 0
Your next question is from the line of Ryan Daniels of William Blair. You may ask your question.
Speaker 6
Hey, good afternoon. This is Jared Hasson for Ryan. Thanks for taking the questions. Russ, maybe for you. I was hoping to just If you could talk a little bit about just generally the key themes that are coming up in discussions with the client base.
So curious if that's still largely kind of focused on Is there a return to work, getting people back into the office post COVID or if you're starting to really see kind of a shift towards more of the clinical offerings, obviously, that you've added through M and A And things like that. Just any thoughts there around the themes that you're hearing in the pipeline from clients?
Speaker 2
Yes, of course, happy to. Very clearly, more and more of our clients are returning to work right now to be sure. But I agree with the Premise of your question or the direction you were leaving me with your question around where the conversations are. Healthcare spend is returning at some level across the country. Our customers are seeing that spend return.
There's an acknowledgment that healthcare trend line in 2021 is going to be higher than the trend line that we saw in 2020, how customers are budgeting for that and how they're dealing with what we think are a Profound set of needs in, undertreated chronic conditions or in terms of behavioral health, Our opportunities for our clinical programs are for our enhanced clinical programs to drive material value. It's a good opportunity for me, if you don't mind, To kick it over to Shantanu Nundi as well, our Chief Medical Officer, Shantanu actually just published a book yesterday that's written about called Care After COVID It's really about how we're actually dealing with a new wave of needs in the healthcare system post the pandemic. Shantanu, do you want to talk about the clinical needs that our customers are facing that might be a little different than they were just a year ago?
Speaker 8
Yes, happy, Suraj. I absolutely love the question because I think you're right. I think for a little while earlier in the year, employers were largely focused on the pandemic, Great. And just managing the uncertainty of that, I think we're definitely seeing a turn in the conversations where our customers are increasingly sort of Getting ready to get back to normal, which means they're concerned about the postponed elective care. And so that's where they're interested In second opinion, I think they're interested in getting get a handle of chronic diseases, which many things sort of fell off during the pandemic.
But I think the way that they're coming at those conversations is different, right? I think that during the past year, what they've seen is that, That health isn't just a HR benefits issue, it's also a business continuity one. And that it sort of magnified for them that The core challenges we have on the supply chain of healthcare are far more stark than they had imagined even before this. So issues like the access to primary care and the fact that 20% to 40% of Americans don't have it and that the reimbursement model for primary care makes it very fragile, Right. The fact that mental health is core to what they need to be able to provide their employees.
I think the opportunity that virtual provide. So I think what we're seeing early evidence of in the customers is a real change in mindset and sort of a larger Aperture for getting even more involved in care delivery and for really connecting all the different pieces Of the healthcare equation for their members.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from the line of Hannah Badri of St. Vincent. Your line is now open.
Speaker 10
Just a quick question on your growth in your customer base. I saw on the deck that Accolade increased The target customer base from 21,500 to 30,000 for self insured employers. Can you unpack between these and maybe what portion is attributable to CycloneMD? Thanks.
Speaker 3
Oh, sure. That's Just an additional data source on the number of target companies in the U. S, Hannah, as opposed to a reflection on Second MD per se, it's more about the sizing of the mid market target customers, which It has the level at which you can self insure given the availability of stop loss insurance at affordable rates even for small companies Has grown that market. So today, we're sizing it a bit larger than we were back at the time of the IPO in the range of 30,000 available companies.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from Richard Close of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.
Speaker 6
Great, thanks. Couple of questions on competition and collaboration. Raj, I was wondering if you could address the view that Employers are overwhelmed with all these different offerings, definitely referring to this week's journal article. Are you guys hearing stuff like that from your customers in your discussions? And is that something that could impact the signing of new Customers, especially as we think about large enterprises?
Speaker 2
Richard, I appreciate the question very much. And I think There's certainly been a lot of conversation about the journal article. I'll say this, when we read the headline of that article, which Spoke to benefits buyers being overwhelmed by the number of solutions that are being presented to them every day. It was as if they've been pulled off of our website or out of our presentations. Ultimately, the value proposition we deliver for our customers and For their employees and their families is to give them a single place to go.
So if they're unsure of what benefit they should use or how to go about leveraging their benefits, All they have to do is ask Accolade. Our trusted supplier program is built around the idea of pulling all of their disparate programs together in a way That actually leverages our engagement engine, drives engagement and adoption up and improves outcomes by getting people to leverage their benefits programs well. And so do we agree? Yes, We fundamentally agree with the headline of that article. Benefits buyers are overwhelmed.
They would like to go to a single place To be able to manage their vendor relationships and to the degree they can reduce their vendor relationships by finding more value. And value is the critical term here that I'll expound on in just a moment. With a single vendor, they'd like to do so. But that value isn't about Per se, the right cost price per unit PEPM or PMPM, that value is about clinical value and about driving cost down. It's about improving member satisfaction.
And if you can do those three things by weaving offerings together in the nature that we are, we think you have a winning proposition for Reducing the number of vendors that they're dealing with, building longitudinal relationships with their people to make them happier, improving clinical outcomes And lowering cost. That is fundamentally aligned with the value proposition Accolade has been talking about for 10 years.
Speaker 0
Your next question is from the line of David Grossman of Stifel. Your line is open.
Speaker 1
Great. Thank you. I'm wondering if we could just remind us of how the integration of SecondMD and PlusCare get factored into The risk element of your revenue model, should we assume that once the integrations are fully completed that In fact, you can guarantee a higher level of savings post integration?
Speaker 2
First of all, thank you for the question. I think When we think about adding capabilities to our platform like expert medical opinion, like primary care And specifically with things like primary care where we think we're adding value to a wide variety of our longitudinal relationships, We absolutely assess every one of those incremental capabilities with an eye towards will it improve clinical outcomes, will it reduce costs and will it improve member satisfaction. We believe that's true for both of these capabilities. And we believe when embedded in our platform, we can drive engagement for those solutions up in a way That improves our capacity to deliver incremental cost or value. In my prepared remarks, I talked about the idea of driving negative trend line.
We do fundamentally believe we can eat into the waste that exists in the system by delivering an integrated experience in a longitudinal form like the one we have today. How will that manifest for our customers? Well, we've been putting our fees at risk since the beginning of the business, meaning we've been putting a percentage of our fees at risk Since the company was founded and today for preponderance of our customers, a percentage of our fees are at risk associated with the savings we deliver. We'd expect that to continue into the future and we expect that we can yield more value from those relationships as we drive more cost savings for our customers.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from Stephanie Tevez of SVB Leerink.
Speaker 10
You may ask your question. Thank you for taking my question. With the addition of the 2nd opinion solutions and the virtual primary care announcement, I'd be curious if you're seeing any change in market perception from your employer clients. So 2 parts, 1, are you seeing employers open to contracting directly with you for care Or is the market perception still leaning towards Accolade as a 3rd party navigator that has value via its independence? And secondly, Are you seeing customers open to shutting off their 3rd party virtual care in favor of yours?
Or is it more of an additive component to their overall care suite.
Speaker 2
I'm going to let Shantanu jump in here because I know he's got 5 things that he wants to add to whatever answer I give you. So Shantanu, get ready. Our strategy fundamentally is and this has been true in terms of our customers' perception of us since the beginning Has been about improving clinical outcomes, reducing costs and making people and driving engaged members who are happy with the service we deliver. And so in answering your question around customer perception, customers expect us to continue to deliver new value to them and are quite, in fact, Excited about the new capabilities we've been bringing to their doorstep over the course of the last 6 months. 2nd point I'd make there is, as it relates to Our care delivery vehicles and how we collaborate with the marketplace, and this is where I'll turn it to Shantanu, our strategy is fundamentally about Improving outcomes for the people we serve.
And that means we will collaborate where that's appropriate. We're always going to get the people our members to the right At the right time, including to our partners or to the brick and mortar healthcare system that exists. And so we're not really talking about replacing things. We're talking about enhancing a system that already exists in order to drive to better outcomes. Sean, I know you want to jump in and speak a little to that model?
Speaker 8
Yes, absolutely. I think as you said, I mean, I think fundamentally our sort of philosophy, right, is that we want to get Our members to the right doctors and help them empower that patient, empower that doctor to get to the right decisions for them. And I think sometimes that may be providers that we have, that might be providers in brick and mortar, that might be through Our partners, but ultimately our North Star is really making helping members make the best decisions so that we can get them For the best outcomes. And I think where you see second opinion, you see primary care is if you look at the healthcare system and you look at where are the places That often sort of fail patients the most, right? Those are the places where we see an opportunity for us to Connect the dots and ultimately help drive those better decisions, right?
When you look at how many people that have cancer or that have Surgeries that don't even have the right diagnosis or don't have the right treatment plan and how often when we get a second opinion that that Diagnosis or treatment meaningfully changes, right? That's a place where we see immense leverage for us To be more part of that solution. Same thing for primary care, right? The statistics show, right, that 20% to 40 Americans don't have a primary care physician, but if you dig deeper into what percent of patients don't have a strong primary care relationship. And then if you go on the other side, I still got a chance to practice medicine and primary care every week.
The challenges that I, as a Physicians have been able to provide the care that my patients need. Simple things like, I don't know what medications they've actually I don't know if they were in the hospital recently. I when I prescribe a medication, I can't tell them how much that medication costs Before they leave my clinic, those are the places where we see a tremendous opportunity for us to leverage the navigation service that we Have the data that we've built, the relationship we've built to really empower those physicians and again take a part of the healthcare journey that just It's simply not working for enough people. And again, sometimes that might be our own and sometimes that might be brick and mortar doctors and really augmenting and supporting them and getting to those better decisions.
Speaker 0
Your next question comes from the line of David Larsen of BTIG. You may ask your question.
Speaker 6
Hi. Can you talk a little bit about your relationship with TRICARE? It's my understanding that TRICARE has about 9,000,000 lives in total, get a pilot program going on with about 100,000 lives. And I was hoping to hear about sort of more in sell potential with that particular client. Just any thoughts around timing Very helpful.
Thanks a
Speaker 2
lot. Hey, David. Thanks for the question. We are in now entering the 2nd year of our TRICARE Pilot, you may recall that last year we announced we signed a 3 year pilot with TRICARE that needed to renew at the end of each year. That renewal process has taken place and we are now into our 2nd year serving members and continuing to see Great early indicators of the value we can provide, extraordinary satisfaction and an opportunity to guide people to the right outcomes.
It's our belief is to your point that we have an opportunity to extend that value to more of the TRICARE population with the success of the And obviously, the extension of the pilot for another year is a great indicator of the opportunity to extend the relationship. And We don't have a lot to tell you today around incremental opportunities or the size of the incremental opportunity beyond the fact that we have 100,000 Today, there's 9,000,000 members in the broader population. But we do like the leading indicators associated with the service we're delivering.
Speaker 0
Your next question is from the line of Ryan MacDonald of Needham. Your line is open.
Speaker 6
Hi, great. Thanks for taking my questions. In regards to 2nd MD, you obviously talked about the mix of revenue being a combination of PPM, but then there's also Sort of price times quantity case rates component as well. As you look at the outlook you've provided for SecondMD. How should we think about the mix of revenue contribution between those 2?
And is there any potential tailwind to the case
Speaker 3
Hey, Ryan. Thanks for the question. It's Steve. Yes, the case rate component is outside of that ACV 1, while the majority of the revenue that TekkenMD generates is on a PEPM basis, you could think of it as a Quarter to 30%, a third something like that of potential around case rate. And as people are coming back into the healthcare system in more cases, there's potential tailwinds there.
So So we've included in the guidance what we think is a achievable number, but there certainly could be that opportunity for upside. As we all know, we're all trying to figure out exactly how quickly people come back into the healthcare system. So we're taking we think it's a very prudent approach There, but certainly could be some upside on volumes as we move through the year.
Speaker 0
I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the conference back to Mr. Singh. You may proceed.
Speaker 2
Thank you very much, operator. And to all of our investors and analysts who joined us today, we appreciate you making the time. We're excited about the future. We look forward to catching up with you in July for our Q2 earnings call Q1 earnings call, excuse me. Thanks, everyone.
Bye now.
Speaker 0
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