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agilon health - Earnings Call - Q2 2025

August 4, 2025

Executive Summary

  • Q2 2025 materially missed Street expectations: revenue $1.395B vs $1.472B consensus (−5%), EPS $(0.25) vs $(0.11) consensus, and Adjusted EBITDA $(83)M vs $(29)M; misses were driven by lower-than-expected risk adjustment and unfavorable prior period development. The company withdrew full‑year 2025 guidance and announced a CEO transition. Shares fell >25% after-hours on the news. [Values retrieved from S&P Global: revenue, EPS, EBITDA consensus*]
  • The quarter included negative prior period development of $66M (exited markets $20M, Part D $13M, 2024 risk adjustment $37M) and a $48M year‑to‑date reduction to 2025 risk adjustment for 72% of members on the enhanced data platform. Medical margin fell to $(53)M (from $106M YoY) and Adjusted EBITDA to $(83)M (from $(3)M YoY).
  • Leadership change: Steven Sell stepped down; co‑founder Ronald A. Williams named Executive Chairman, an “Office of the Chairman” was formed, and a CEO search is underway. Management emphasized urgency, accountability, and execution to position for 2026 improvement. Guidance was suspended to reflect these transitions and visibility work.
  • Operating posture: reduced Part D exposure (<30% of membership), intensified payer negotiations for 2026 (targeting better economics/quality incentives), and scaling clinical pathways (heart failure, palliative) while improving data visibility; 2H/2026 is the expected recovery timeline absent additional shocks.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

  • What Went Well

    • Data visibility and contracting levers: “We have significantly improved our data visibility and timeliness… ~72% of our patient population is validated in our enhanced data platform,” supporting forecasting and 2026 planning.
    • Quality and cost execution markers: Year‑2+ markets’ admission/ER rates were 20–30% better than local fee‑for‑service; quality performance “at or above 4.25 stars,” enabling incremental payer quality dollars.
    • Risk de‑risking steps: Part D exposure already reduced to <30% of 2025 membership with further carve‑outs targeted in 2026 contracting; 50% of membership up for re‑pricing.
  • What Went Wrong

    • Risk adjustment shortfall: Final 2024 payer data and mid‑year 2025 indications showed lower‑than‑expected RAF; $37M reduction to 2024 risk adjustment and $48M YTD reduction to 2025 risk adjustment for the 72% on the new data platform.
    • Prior period development: Additional $66M of negative development (exited markets $20M; Part D $13M; 2024 RA $37M), materially impacting medical margin.
    • Guidance suspension and leadership transition amplified uncertainty: Company withdrew FY2025 guidance and announced CEO departure and leadership changes, raising near‑term execution risk and roiling the stock.

Transcript

Speaker 4

Good afternoon, and thank you for attending the Agilon Health Second Quarter 2025 conference call. My name is Jay Song. I'll be the moderator today. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call, with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I'd now like to pass the conference over to your host, Evan Smith.

Speaker 0

Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon and welcome to the call. With me are Ron Williams, our Executive Chair, and our CFO, Jeff Schwaneke. Following our prepared remarks, we will conduct a Q&A session. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our remarks and responses to questions may include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those stated or implied by forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with our business. These risks and uncertainties are discussed in our SEC filings. Please note that we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Additionally, certain financial measures we will discuss in this call are non-GAAP financial measures. We believe that providing these measures helps investors gain a better and more complete understanding of our financial results and is consistent with how management reviews our financial results.

A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is available in the earnings press release and Form 8-K filed with the SEC. With that, let me turn the call over to Ron. Ron?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Evan. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us on short notice. I'm pleased to be with all of you today. For those of you I may not have met before, I've been Chair of Agilon Health since we founded the company. As we announced today, I have been appointed by the Board to the role of Executive Chairman, with Steve Sell stepping down as President, CEO, and the Director of the Board. We also reported our second quarter results and withdrew our 2025 guidance. Jeff will walk you through this in detail. First, I want to take a step back, introduce myself, and discuss how we are tackling Agilon Health's recent underperformance and positioning the company to realize the value of our unique and differentiated model in 2026 and beyond.

I've been fortunate to have served in a number of leadership and operational roles at healthcare companies, including as Chair and CEO of Aetna. Throughout my long career in the sector and many different economic and market cycles, I've helped organizations at critical inflection points to drive transformation and improve performance, including at Aetna. From its inception, I believed in Agilon Health's mission and the critical role we serve in the healthcare industry, helping to transform healthcare for seniors by empowering primary care physicians to focus on the entire health of their patients and to create value for stakeholders. The foundation of our business and Agilon Health's model is built on a belief that aligning incentives with community-based physicians and a commitment to delivering innovative, integrated capabilities will allow primary care physicians to successfully navigate their transition to a healthcare system defined by providing high-value medical care.

The value that Agilon Health's model provides is more important today than ever. The healthcare system needs effective solutions to improve quality outcomes and address costs by empowering primary care physicians to support the aging population that is rapidly growing, particularly the growing 80-plus years old segment, which typically has the most complex needs. As we move through 2024, we identified certain challenges our business could face in 2025, recognizing Agilon Health would be operating in a volatile environment and that this year would be an important transition period. Using learnings we gained in 2024, we took action and launched strategic initiatives last year to strengthen our platform and improve performance, which our team has actively advanced this year.

These efforts include deepening our engagement with our physician partners, expanding programs that support the most complex patients, enhancing our operational and business visibility capabilities, including through investments in AI and advanced technology, and improving contract economics in our cost structure. Given the long-term nature of our business cycle, we have not yet captured the full upside from these enhancements this year, but are confident in realizing them in 2026. Nevertheless, as 2025 progressed, the industry complexities and headwinds we believed Agilon Health would face were more acute than previously expected, and our execution was not adequate. This resulted in the underperformance we reported. There are two key drivers, as Jeff will cover. One, the final 2024 payer data we received indicated our risk adjustment last year was lower than we previously assumed, resulting in a lower 2024 risk baseline.

Two, due to the lower 2024 baseline and because of our enhanced data platform, we see our 2025 risk adjustment is trending lower than expected, and the activity levels that would allow us to overcome this have not yet materialized. We are clearly disappointed with the financial results as we firmly believe in the value our business creates for physicians, patients, and payers, and the significant growth opportunities Agilon Health can capture. This is why we are taking additional decisive actions to further strengthen our foundation as we look to drive improved performance and take advantage of what we expect to be a more favorable environment in 2026. We will be aggressive in aligning our talent and execution to our opportunity.

We're transitioning our leadership, as announced today, and I will work even more closely with the Agilon Health team as Executive Chairman while we conduct a search for a permanent CEO. I'm committed to ensuring a smooth transition, but in the meantime, I'm fully focused on improving execution across our business and helping to strengthen all relationships that are critical to our future success. In addition, I formed an Office of the Chairman to help drive this effort, which includes several key members from across our existing leadership team. This group is recalibrating the culture of the organization against a standard of urgency, accountability, and performance. I'm meeting with the leadership team daily with the purpose of shortening the interval between business performance review and actions to accelerate outcome. This approach is cascading across the organization. We expect this will translate to improved results for our partners and Agilon Health.

Together, we are working with urgency to advance and execute efforts now to improve performance. This includes making economic changes to ensure that Agilon Health and our physician partners capture the appropriate value for the benefits that we deliver through our outcomes-focused total care model. Urgently addressing the elements that are in our control while also navigating the broader market-based challenges and sharpening our commitment to disciplines and operational rigor, which this current environment demands. I have seen firsthand what is required to stabilize and ultimately re-accelerate an organization that is undergoing a challenging transition and that operates within a prolonged business cycle. In my past role leading large and complex healthcare technology companies, I've evaluated and implemented ways to streamline operations, reduce administrative complexity, and unlock performance through data-driven decision-making and a culture of empowerment and accountability.

This insight and experience reinforce my confidence in the sustainable value that Agilon Health can deliver if we improve our execution. We've seen time and again that Agilon Health's value-based care model provides significant value to our physician partners and their patients across the U.S. Our proven success over the years has been driven by the differentiated value proposition of Agilon Health's platform. Our foundation remains strong today, and with the many competitive advantages Agilon Health has created, including our unique integrated set of capabilities that are specific to primary care physicians, driven value-based care models that reinforce our role as a long-term solution for physicians' focus on outcomes. We have consistently demonstrated that the Agilon Health platform can drive utilization performance 20% to 30% better than local fee-for-service benchmarks and quality scores approaching or greater than 4.25 stars.

Our deep relationship with community-based physicians, many of which have been leaders in their communities for decades, supports the stability of our business and a durable long-term growth runway. Our scaled platform that serves over 600,000 senior patients, 2,200 primary care physicians, and 30 markets generates consistent quality, clinical cost outperformance, and significant value to our payers. Building on this foundation, we are committed to enhancing performance and Agilon Health's position for sustainable value creation so we can maximize the benefits of the initiatives we have been implementing, as well as the improved Medicare reimbursement model that takes us that next year.

We know that our powerful model provides important solutions to the industry, and we believe that improved execution and a CEO with the skills, experience, and relationships that are aligned to our new path will deliver the results for our physician partners and our shareholders that we know are possible. Thank you for your continued support during this transition. With that, I'll turn it over to Jeff.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Ron, and thanks everyone for joining. On today's call, I'll start by providing an update on the initiatives we are actively pursuing to reduce variability and drive improved performance on a go-forward basis before reviewing our second quarter financial results. As Ron touched on, 2025 is a transition year in which we are advancing strategic initiatives that we started putting in place last year to improve our contract economics, reduce our risk, and optimize our cost structure. While this is a long business cycle, we are now taking a more assertive approach for improved operational and financial performance. The increased visibility and alignment of our financial and operational data will enable us to more quickly identify and drive improvements and better manage the business. We believe we're going to start seeing the results of these changes to deliver enhanced performance and growth in 2026 and forward.

As we look at our second quarter results, it is clear that a combination of factors are at play. Some of them are market-based and out of our control. Others are actively addressing through previously exited markets or reducing our exposure to Part D, and these will not reoccur in 2026. While headwinds remain, we are confident they can be addressed through better execution and a sharper focus on our operations and cost discipline. While our strategic priorities remain consistent, we are confident that with our new leadership structure, we have greater flexibility to pursue these objectives with a faster pull-through from action to outcome. I will run through the changes we are implementing and aggressive steps we are taking to set us up for improved performance one by one. First, enhancing our platform.

During the quarter, we made additional progress in strengthening our network and our platform through advancements in technology, clinical pathways, and operating efficiency. By more effectively leveraging data and technology, we are working to bring agilon health closer to our PCP partners by providing solutions that drive higher quality of care and reduce variability in care delivery across our network. Second, data. We have significantly improved our data visibility and timeliness. Approximately 72% of our patient population is validated in our enhanced data platform, which went into effect at the end of the first quarter of 2025. For those patients, we are seeing a high correlation with the final 2024 and mid-year 2025 data. The high correlation of the enhanced data platform for estimating and validating cost trends and RAS scores increases our confidence in the foundation and potential for 2026 performance.

In addition, in late 2024 and early 2025, we expanded the clinical depth and data of our burden of illness and quality programs while directly integrating clinical evidence and evidence-based guidelines for the physician at the point of care. These improvements are now driving an increase in early identification of high-risk conditions and potential gap closures, and we expect to make additional advancements this year. These enhanced capabilities support our expectation for improvement in 2026 for burden of illness, expanded clinical pathways, and quality scores. Third, enhancing quality and delivery. Our ability to deliver top-tier quality performance relies on us leveraging the strengths of a PCP's relationship with the senior patient. Overall demand for our total care model remains strong as payers and providers look to agilon health to deliver quality and clinical outcomes while reducing costs.

Recent surveys support the strength and demand of the total care model with an NPS score of 85, as well as 92% PCP retention and 90% retention among MA patients. We remain committed to driving four-plus star quality performance. Our enhanced burden of illness program provides the foundation for our clinical model through early and accurate identification, assessment, and documentation of a patient's comprehensive health conditions at the PCP office. By connecting the burden of illness assessment to our quality and care delivery programs through the design and implementation of care plans, we can impact high-acuity chronic disease categories like heart failure, kidney disease, and dementia. Generally, high-risk patients are driving the majority of inpatient utilization. Through early identification, we are making significant progress on our clinical pathways programs by focusing on high-risk patients and seeing them more often. We can help lower costs and improve health outcomes.

Starting with our heart failure program, we continue to make strong progress. While still in the early stages of implementation, we are now live in over half our markets and are seeing strong month-over-month increases in enrollment. We will provide updates on our progress and clinical outcomes later in the year. Our palliative program is now live across most of our markets. We've been pleased to see a strong increase in patients choosing to receive advanced illness management via our program. We also continue to see improved care quality indicators, like a reduction in unnecessary hospital admissions compared to benchmark and increased hospice length of stay. Given the positive patient and clinical impacts to date, we're focused on expanding this program across partnerships and geographies in 2025, which we expect will create additional value in 2026. Our fourth area of focus is improving our contract economics.

We are currently in active negotiations with our payer partners for 2026, with approximately 50% of our membership up for renewal. We believe we can establish agreements that better align economic terms with the value delivered and predictability of performance. During this renewal process, we remain focused on several areas. First, a further reduction in Part D exposure, where we are already seeing positive indications from payers. Second, an expansion of quality incentives, which are aligned with payer objectives. Third, improved economic terms for Part C. Fourth, a continued narrowing of the risk from supplemental benefits through better information. We are also optimistic that the recent public commentary from payers will translate to a more normalized payer bidding environment on both pricing and benefits, as they focused on improved margin performance. Last, we will be working to drive greater efficiency across the platform.

We have launched a process to further evaluate our operating expenses to support improved profitability. Collectively, these levers that we are pulling and our focus on enhanced execution will drive performance recovery in 2026 and beyond. Before turning toward what is next, I'm going to provide the details of the second quarter results. Let me start by saying that we are clearly disappointed with our financial results for the second quarter. These results reflect a lower than expected burden of illness or risk adjustment contribution for both 2024 and 2025, unfavorable development in Part D costs, and 2025 cost trends that are in line with expectations. Our second quarter results are meaningfully influenced by the recent introduction of our enhanced data platform, which we believe has materially improved our financial and clinical data visibility and insights for both operational execution and financial forecasting.

We have further to go with more payers to add, but the data we do have indicates that the burden of illness assessment work our physician partners performed in 2024 did not yield the expected increase in 2024 and 2025 revenue. Before we provide more detail on risk adjustment, let me highlight some other key metrics. Starting with membership, our Medicare Advantage membership at the end of Q2 2025 was 498,000 members, compared to 513,000 members in Q2 2024, reflective of our measured approach to membership growth and recent market exits. As a reminder, the class of 2025 contracts are on a glide path approach and are not driving a meaningful variance in our financial results. We expect our same geography growth rate to be in line with the broader industry for 2025.

ACO REACH membership in the second quarter was 116,000 members, compared to 132,000 members in the second quarter of 2024, and was in line with our expectations. Turning to revenue, total revenue for Q2 2025 was $1.4 billion, compared to $1.48 billion in Q2 2024. The year-over-year revenue decrease is primarily due to lower risk adjustment in 2024 and 2025 and unfavorable development in Part D. Medical margin for the second quarter of 2025 was negative $53 million, compared to positive $106 million in Q2 of 2024. While medical cost trends are in line with our prior expectations, medical margin was below our guidance, driven primarily by the underperformance of our burden of illness program in 2024 and 2025 and unfavorable prior period development.

We have provided a bridge in the earnings presentation we issued today that walks from the guide we provided for the second quarter of 2025 to our actual results. During the second quarter, we received substantially all of the final 2024 risk adjustment data from our payer partners that indicated our 2024 risk adjustment was lower than expected. This, in combination with additional payer data for 2024 Part D, resulted in negative prior period development of $66 million, recorded primarily as a reduction of revenue. It is important to point out several things. First, of this amount, $20 million was associated with exited markets. Second, $13 million was associated with higher 2024 Part D costs from one payer who agreed to carve out Part D beginning in 2025, leaving $37 million of risk adjustment related to 2024 activity in our existing markets.

Last, because of the lower risk score step-off from 2024, combined with data that we now have from our enhanced data platform, we see that our 2025 risk adjustment is also trending lower than our expectations. As a result, we have trued up our risk adjustment, resulting in a $48 million reduction in revenue. This represents the year-to-date true up for 2025 risk scores for the 72% of our membership on the enhanced data platform. We have not changed the estimates for the remaining members, pending the receipt of mid-year risk score information, which we expect late in the third quarter. Our enhanced data platform provides greater visibility and detail for both revenue and claims, which we expect will continue to enhance our forecasting, including on risk adjustment. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was negative $83 million, compared to negative $3 million in Q2 2024.

The year-over-year movement reflects the items I just mentioned, partially offset by favorability from lower geography entry costs and operating cost initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA related to ACO REACH was $10 million in the second quarter of 2025, in line with our expectations. Managing medical cost trends remains a top priority. For Q2 2025, our year two plus markets' medical cost trend was 5.9%, compared to 6% in Q2 2024. MA results continue to demonstrate agilon health's strong quality performance metrics, with readmission, hospital admission, and visit rates 20% to 30% better than the local fee-for-service benchmark. Primary care utilization and annual wellness visit volume remain relatively flat, and the overall medical cost trend was within our expected range for the first half of the year.

As part of our strategy to manage risk, we have successfully reduced our exposure to Medicare Part D, with less than 30% of our membership carrying Part D risk in 2025, and we continue to make progress to reduce it further as we enter 2026. Additionally, we are working closely with our payer partners to refine benefit designs and improve alignment on medical cost management. On the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $327 million in cash and marketable securities and $176 million of off-balance sheet cash held by our ACO entities. We believe our current liquidity position gives us the flexibility we need to navigate this challenging period while maintaining our focus on the factors that will drive long-term performance for our business, our physician partners, and our shareholders.

In conjunction with the announcement of Agilon Health's leadership change and the evaluation of additional actions to optimize our business, as well as continued execution of ongoing initiatives and market uncertainty, which may impact future results, we have made the decision to withdraw our previously issued full-year 2025 financial guidance and related assumptions. In summary, we are extremely focused on improving the near-term profitability of the business that will allow us to drive growth in 2026. Our actions include improving contract economics and bid visibility with payers, continuing to enhance our data platform and burden of illness program, removing variability in the business by reducing exposure to items we don't control, focus on expansion of quality programs that are aligned with our execution, and continued cost discipline and capital allocation to strengthen our balance sheet.

Moreover, with a positive rate environment in 2026, continued execution on our clinical and quality initiatives, and improved burden of illness performance, we believe we will significantly enhance profitability in 2026 and beyond. Finally, I want to thank our employees and our physician partners who have been working tirelessly to navigate these challenges with us. Our people are the foundation of our success and are key to our ability to execute our plan and strategic priorities. To reiterate what we have outlined today, this is a marked pace of change from how we executed the business previously. With that, Operator, let's move to the Q&A portion of the call.

Speaker 4

If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you'd like to remove that question, please press star followed by two. Again, to ask a question, it's star one on your telephone keypad. Our first question is from Elizabeth Anderson with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Hey, guys. Good afternoon, and thanks so much for the question. A couple of things that have come up. One, I just want to understand, maybe I missed it, so apologies, you're saying that you might have a positive PYD in three Qs. I just want to clarify that. Two, is there something that you'd change about the growth rate going into 2026 in terms of adding new practices or allowing new members until you have the cost trends more in a stable place? Do you believe that based on what you just said on your 2026 outlook, that should continue along the same dynamic? Thanks so much.

Speaker 0

Yeah, Elizabeth, this is Jeff. Thanks for the question. The first thing I would do is point you to the presentation that we've published today in connection with our earnings. In that presentation, you'll find a bridge from the prior midpoint of the guidance of the medical margin, roughly $60 million, and bridging that to the actual results for the quarter. The first thing that I would start out with is I would say, you know, generally, medical cost trends were in line with our expectations, and the cost trends for the first half were roughly around 6%. As far as development's concerned, we had a small amount of favorable development on quality programs, roughly $3 million. I would say the most significant pieces of development were unfavorable. The first is related to the risk adjustment, which we covered in the prepared remarks, $37 million.

We do have $13 million of negative development with Part D. That's related to a payer that agreed to carve that out in 2025, so that issue does not go forward. There is $20 million of negative development for exited markets. That development will also not carry forward as well. I would frame the negative development as having two components which aren't really continuing with the business going forward, and then the 2024 risk adjustment that has, I would say, a step-off impact on 2025. As far as the growth rate is concerned, I think, listen, we're focused on the near-term changes to the business to improve profitability, and I would say 2026 growth is under review. We're going to be highly selective on future growth given the performance of the business, and ultimately, we're looking to improve profitability here in the near term.

Great, thanks so much for the clarification.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Jailendra Singh with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Hi, guys. This is Eduardo Ron on for Jailendra. Thanks for taking the question. Just on cost trends in the quarter, I mean, you said it was 6% for the first half. Can you break down how those trends developed sequentially from Q1 to Q2 and perhaps what information you might have on July at this point? We'd also be curious if those trends were consistent across your markets and cohorts or if there were anything specific to call out.

Speaker 0

Yeah, thanks, Eduardo. I would say the first thing is we had 6% accrued for Q1 cost trends. At this point in time, that's roughly 85%, the mid-80s percent complete, roughly around 85% complete. We feel pretty good about cost trends in Q1. Q2, you know our data model here, we are on a little bit of a delay, so we don't have a lot of paid data, but generally, what we're seeing is consistent cost trends with Q1. As far as July is concerned, that would be our least complete month. I wouldn't really be able to comment on kind of cost trends in July. Obviously, we get a new batch of data here coming this week, but I guess that would be my framing.

I think the first thing that I would say just generally is the cost trends for us, development on the medical cost line hasn't been that significant this year from 2024 or from Q1 of 2025. Recall, last year we made substantial changes to our reserving methodology in the third quarter. That was on the old data model. Now we have those changes that are on the new data model, which has provided, I would say, a higher level of confidence in our reserve estimation.

I agree. Maybe I could just squeeze one more in there. Just on the top line risk adjustment estimate for the 72% of membership, was that pretty consistent across the board? I'm just trying to figure out why you guys didn't make the additional adjustment on the 28%. You know, maybe the 72%, it was one payer that had the information that caused the adjustment, or just trying to see what the variability was that you didn't extrapolate.

Yeah, yeah. Good call out here. I'll get to that at the end of my comment. Let me just start out with a couple of things on risk adjustment. First, I just want to be clear that ultimately we are generating, I would say, positive risk adjustment lift, both in 2024 and in 2025, really over and above the impact of V28. I think if you look at the slides that we published today, 2024 net risk adjustment lift is roughly around 1.2%. If you account for the step-off change, 2025 would also be positive after the impact of V28 as well. The issue with 2024 is we had an estimate at the end of the year for the mid-year to final sweeps that was based on history, based on our historical experience that we've seen by payer in the past.

Those came in a little bit lighter than we anticipated. Obviously, that lower baseline impacts the jumping-off point for 2025. Therefore, we had to change that as well. I would say the enhanced data pipeline is important here. We have visibility that we did not have a year ago today. We can calculate member-level risk scores. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, there's a high correlation between the data pipeline and some of the mid-years we've received. We've received a couple of mid-years from some of our larger payers, but for the vast majority, we haven't. Here's where I'll get to your question. The remaining 28% of members, we really don't have any information available because we didn't get the mid-year files, and we ultimately won't receive those until we get later in the third quarter.

I would say we made a lot of changes to the burden of illness program last year, including updated clinical guidelines, enhanced provider education, the introduction of third-party technology partners to enhance our data and strengthen our ability to identify potential health conditions for our members. It's a long-cycle business, and we really won't see the value of these changes until 2026. Early information from the enhanced data pipeline is promising and indicates improvements are working, but again, it's early. The data pipeline is a massive step forward in providing more accurate information on risk adjustment throughout the year. As we think about our budget heading into 2026, ultimately, we will use this new process. Lastly, to your point, I would say there was significant variability by payer, which is why we just didn't extrapolate those dollars. We're ultimately waiting for that information to come in the third quarter.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Daniel Grosslight with Citi. Your line is now open.

Hey, this is Luis from Daniel Grosslight. I just had a question on the, if you are able to give comments during the 2026 class during the headwinds, that folks are expected to come in at 30,000 to 45,000 members. I'm assuming these would be under GlidePath, and he's still correct.

Speaker 0

Yeah, I'll cover, I guess, both pieces. First, as far as, you know, we said we were going to have 20,000 GlidePath members this year, you know, effectively no downside risk. We are not at that number at the end of Q2. Ultimately, we're still working on economic terms with some of them. Ultimately, if we can't get to those, then they won't show up, which is fine. I would say I commented earlier about 2026 growth. Again, we're focused on improving profitability in the near term, and that growth, I would say, is under review. We're going to be highly selective on future growth given where the business is performing.

Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Justin Lake with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Thanks. Jeff, I heard you talk about 2026 bids and getting clarity there. First, any insight that you can share with us in terms of how you think the bidding looks for your kind of book of business for 2026? Are you expecting a lot of help there?

Speaker 0

Yeah, Justin, thanks for the commentary. Obviously, it's early, and we don't really get the full bid detail until later in the year, but we've been working closely with our payer partners, Justin. I guess what I would say is the information that we're exchanging back and forth is consistent with the payer's public commentary. I think some have commented a little bit differently than others, but I would say generally, it's pretty consistent that payers are looking for improved economics as they head into 2026.

Is Humana still your biggest payer?

That's a good question. I'd have to look at the 10-Q. We disclose that information. I think payer A, B, C, that's disclosed in the filing. It is not specific, and we're not going to get specific on the call. Certainly, they are one of our larger payers, for sure.

Right. Publicly, they've said that they're not looking to cut benefits. They're going to cut FT&A and improve medical management to get to their margin targets. Just curious, your view of that. Do you feel like that's something where you have to have a tough conversation and potentially walk away from membership? It does not have to be about Humana. I doubt you'd want to talk about that specifically. In general, do you feel like you're going to have some of those conversations where you're going to say, "Look, we're either handing you back the members. Here you go," or, "We're going to see real economic improvement"? When would you be able to share that with us?

Yeah, I would say, Justin, those conversations are going on right now, but ultimately, it depends on their final bid. As you think about how we negotiate with our payers, we don't conclude our negotiations until we get the full bid detail. We can see what we believe those bids are going to do to our economics and our performance in those markets. I would say you're absolutely correct. If ultimately we don't see a situation that provides the economics that we believe are prudent for our business, then yes, we may not do a deal with that payer. If you remember our model, right, we have longstanding relationships with the primary care physicians who have had more than 10-year-plus relationships with their members. Generally, that doesn't mean the member leaves the Agilon Health ecosystem. It may mean that they're just enrolled with another payer.

Got it. All right. Thanks.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Ryan Langston with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Great, thanks. Just two things for me. On the CEO search, can you give us a sense on kind of what you're looking for in the next CEO? How should we think about potential partnership exits from here? With some of the updates that you've kind of laid out here, are there now maybe some partners that just aren't looking as attractive as they would have historically?

I would speak to the CEO first. First, I would say that we think that given the potential of the business, this would be a very attractive platform for a CEO who is committed to the vision that we have, which is we want someone who really has multi-market management capability, experience in working with primary care physicians, as we have these very large independent groups that we have longstanding relationships with, really understands the payer world, and most importantly, brings a kind of operating rigor and diligence and focus and alignment that we think is necessary to achieve success in the business. That's kind of the broad outline that we're looking for.

Speaker 0

Yeah, Ryan, this is Jeff. I'll just comment on, you know, there's no immediate plans to exit anything right now, but our job is to continuously evaluate the profitability of our business based on payer dynamics, the macro rate environment, cost trends, everything together, and look at those economics on a going forward basis. That's what we'll do.

All right, thank you.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Matthew Shea with Needham. Your line is now open.

Hey, thanks for taking the question. I called out slight favorability in the quarter from quality incentives. Can you just elaborate on that? Maybe how durable of a benefit do you anticipate that to be in the back half of this year? As you think about the renewal process, talked about going after more quality incentives. What has payer willingness been like to include more of those quality incentives in your contract, or just how are you thinking about how much opportunity there is to add within your contracts for next year? Thanks.

Speaker 0

Yeah, yeah. Real quick, a small amount of favorability here in quality, which is good, really related to our performance in 2024. I think, listen, we have a strong quality program. I think one of the important values that we deliver to our payer partners is high-quality scores. If you look at our year two plus markets, we are at or above 4.25 stars. It's really been a strength for us. I guess I come back to the we want to get paid for how we perform. I think payers, given some of their own quality challenges, are more willing than ever to put dollars at risk in these quality programs. We saw that this year, which is a step up in dollars available if you earn those quality scores.

I think payers are even more willing to pay for a higher level of performance, which is really good for us and really plays to the strength of our model. I think that's where payers, where they're coming from now. I do expect those dollars to increase from 2025 to 2026. How much, we'll have to see. I do think it's a mutually agreed-upon set of metrics that we can really drive value that ultimately produces economics for the payer and for us.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Craig Jones with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Hi, thank you for the question. Maybe to follow up on the quality incentives, let's say you weren't able to get that installed in all the contracts. Obviously, you only have 50% up for renewal this year, but over the next few years, as you renegotiate all these contracts, if you're able to get those quality incentives into the contracts across 100% of your membership, how much potential margin could there be from getting those installed? Thanks.

Speaker 0

Yeah, I would say we already have a lot of these programs in the majority of our contracts today with payers. I think the difference is the dollars are escalating because, I mean, you know this publicly, a lot of the public payers have had challenges in quality specifically, which has cost them a lot of returns. Ultimately, they're putting more dollars here in order to, I would say, incentivize performance and outperformance. This isn't new. The quality metrics have already been there. I would say the difference is the dollars are escalating, which actually plays into our strength.

Okay, got it. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Jack Slevin with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Hey, thanks for taking the question. I just want to follow up on Justin's here just to make sure I've got the timing of this right. It sounds like to me, and please Ron or Jeff jump in if this is incorrect, it sounds like the main pillars of what needs to improve to affect the turnaround are sort of still in place and you're working towards them. As we think about further market on either market exits or really looking at the portfolio and making a decision about what's the right sizing of it or what's the right version up to go with, that's going to come later in the year, and bids are the most important piece there. Do I have that right?

Speaker 0

Yeah, I guess what I would say is I think some of the majority of the levers that we're pulling in the business are certainly the same. I think the point that Ron and we're trying to make is the business really has to operate differently from an urgency and action perspective. We really need to reduce the time from evaluating performance to action. I think the data model and the progression of the data model has been an important piece of that, where we are now tying financial outcome back to operational metrics, which is pushing the business forward. Certainly, looking at our operating cost is something we're always doing, but I would say we're taking an enhanced view here. Ultimately, yes, payer economics is a big component. Beside all of the other, I would say, macro changes that you guys are aware about.

For example, the final rates for next year. All of these changes kind of come together. Yes, payer bidding is a large component.

Yeah, the other thing I would add is that if you look at our population, the Medicare Advantage population, you look at the top chronic diseases that are affecting them, with the aging population, there is an enormous unmet medical need, undiagnosed medical need in that population. Doing a better job there will result in more revenue as a result of doing a good job of taking care of seniors through the total care model that we have. The tools we put in place support the physicians and give them the ability to enhance their care delivery to that population. That represents, I think, an important source of value for us and for our physician partners. Got it. Really helpful.

If I can just squeeze in a follow-up, any details you can give on ACO REACH performance in the quarter and if that is still tracking to, I think, $35 to $40 million of EBITDA contribution on the full year?

Yeah, certainly, we're not providing the guide, but I would say REACH performance was in line with our expectations. It's been a strong performer for us, and it continues to do so.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from George Hill with Deutsche Bank. The line is now open.

Hey, good evening, Jeff, and thanks for taking the question. One thing, on the impact as it relates to the 72% of your book that you guys have the data from the new model on, do you feel like it's safe to extrapolate that to the balance of the book, or is there a reason why that would be less or that would be more? My next question would just be, is it too early to talk about magnitude of earnings performance improvement in 2026, or do we really just need to see more there? I guess we're just trying to figure out if the earnings improvement is in like basis points or percentage points. Thank you.

Speaker 0

The first thing is, I mean, there's a reason, and I think we talked about this a little earlier, there's a reason why we didn't extrapolate and record, and it's because there was variability among payers related to this adjustment, right? For the payers that we do not have the data for, we're just really waiting for that information. I think we've provided you enough here, you know, to do whatever you want with that number, I would say, but that's ultimately the adjustment we recorded in the quarter. We're not really providing a 2025 guide setting here today. As you know, there are a lot of things that are happening in 2026.

First and foremost is, you know, the final rate notice was a good start, positive impact on our results, or it would have a positive impact on our margin spread as you head into next year if you assume cost trends are, you know, roughly in line with what we've seen in the first half, which is roughly 6%. Again, our historical performance and risk adjustment and the actions we're taking with the enhanced data pipeline, we would anticipate a benefit of that from risk adjustment in 2026. I think for 2025 and 2024, we do have a net lift after the impact of V28. We do think that would be a positive. Again, contracting 50% of our contracts for 2026 are open for renewal, and we're looking for improved economic terms. We continue to focus on carving out Part D this year.

It's below 30% where we have Part D risk. We've made progress on that, not quite final, but we do think we'll be able to bring that down heading to next year. Payer bids, we had a little bit of a discussion here today about that, but generally, I would say stable to favorable commentary if you take the broad brush of payers and ultimately lower supplemental benefit underwriting risk due to decreased supplemental benefits, and payers have agreed to provide us more information. Again, we have operating expense optimization that we're working on heading into next year, and then you have the big question mark, which is what are medical cost trends? I think the things that will impact us in 2026 are similar to what they were before. I think our focus on execution and discipline for the remainder of this year would only add to that.

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Andrew Mock with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Hi, good evening. A couple of questions. First, you commented that the burden of illness assessments done last year did not yield the risk adjustment revenue you estimated for 2024 and 2025. Can you be more specific on the drivers of that downward revision? Did you not have the documentation necessary to support the diagnosis codes, or were codes rejected by CMS? Any additional color there will be helpful. Secondly, I think you noted a 6% cost trend in the first half of the year and said that was in line, but I thought your full-year cost trend previously was 5.3%. Can you clarify your comments there? Thanks.

Speaker 0

Yeah, I'll handle the cost trend one first. You are correct. Our previous guidance was 5.3%, but we didn't necessarily lay that out by quarter. What I would say is for the first half of the year, the cost trends were in line with our expectations, and that's as far as I'll go on that. I would say as you think about 2024 risk adjustment performance, I think what we're trying to say is that we didn't do as good a job of identifying the conditions that our patients had and then rolling them into the appropriate care. I don't think this is a codes got rejected by CMS or anything of that nature.

It goes back to, I would say we started up some of these new clinical programs really to attack the disease burden of our existing patient population and really get them to the care that they need to reduce the burden of illness and ultimately have better health outcomes and lower overall costs. I think that's really what we're talking about. We've talked about new programs that we've implemented either late last year or this year specific to heart failure, COPD, dementia. I think these are clinical pathways that we have here that ultimately will serve to identify the patients where patients have those and treat that accordingly.

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from David Larson with BTIG. Your line is now open.

Hi, this is Jenny on for Dave. Thanks for taking the question. Just more on the cost trend, it's good to hear that it was fairly in line with your own expectations and year over year. Any more details on what you're seeing in that cost trend would be very helpful. Any pockets where the utilization or costs are higher, specifically if there are any? Thanks.

Speaker 0

I would say for the first quarter, specifically, we have a high percentage of paid claims there. What I would say, it continues to be inpatient, inpatient costs, and Part B is in billed drugs and specific to oncology. That's been a consistent theme for us exiting last year and into the first quarter of this year. That's really the pressure points that I would highlight.

That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Lance Wilkes with Bernstein. Your line is now open.

Great. Thanks. Thanks, Ron and Jeff. Could you talk a little to the practice partnerships and your tactics and strategies for maintaining stability there? In particular, if you could talk to concentration kind of in line with the payer concentration, but thinking about the partnerships, the other medical expense in the quarter, and maybe how it varied from prior period, and then the loans shifting to prepaid expenses. Just part of your talent and management process, if you can kind of talk about who's on point or what the process is for managing those practice relationships. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 0

Yeah, I would maybe start with practice partnerships. We're structured in a way where the partners that we have in those markets are primary care groups predominantly that have been in that market for quite some time. They are often one of the largest, if not the largest, primary care practices in that group. We have long-term arrangements with them, and they understand, we think, the cyclical nature of the business and the fact that we are focused on clinical pathway improvement and evidence-based elimination of variability. I think defense of relationships that we have with them, because what they care about at the front line is really delivering quality care to people. Clearly, there's always an economic component to that, and that's why we're tackling all the things that Jeff has talked about.

The model is that there's a Market President who works with the group on a regular basis. They're in the market. There's a Medical Director who supports them and works with the Medical Directors in our partners. That's overall kind of the general model that we have to work with our partners. Yeah. Lance, your second question on other medical expense, that's just the function of calculating the partner share calculations. It's on a partner-by-partner basis. That's the variability you're seeing there.

Great, thanks a lot.

Speaker 4

Our next question is from Lisa Gill with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Thanks, Jeff. Thanks for taking the question. Jeff, can you maybe just talk about your cash balances, and do you have enough cash to get you through to 2026 and the potential turnaround? I noted in the press release you only talked about the associated unconsolidated ACO model, not the rest of your cash balances.

Speaker 0

Thanks for the question. On the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $327 million in cash and marketable securities, and as you mentioned, $176 million of off-balance sheet cash held by our ACO entities. That number, the $176 million for ACOs, is higher than normal because we have payments in the next couple of quarters that ultimately we think will bring that number down to about $40 million. That's consistent with how the cash flow and the ACO program works. We believe our current liquidity position gives us the flexibility we need to navigate the challenging environment and focus really on improving the short and long-term performance of the business. At a minimum, I would say we're confident that we have enough cash to get through 2026, and this excludes any actions we're taking to improve cash flow in the near term.

That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Looks like there are no more questions, so I'll pass the call back over to the management team for closing calls.

Speaker 0

Thank you for your time today, especially on short notice. We look forward to continuing our dialogue with analysts and investors as we advance the performance-improving steps we've outlined today. We look forward to introducing you to Agilon Health's new CEO when we have completed that search. To our employees and partners who may be listening in, we also want to thank you for your dedication and your partnership. You're playing a crucial role in the healthcare industry, helping to transform healthcare for seniors by empowering primary care physicians to focus on the entire health of their patients. We will continue to fulfill this mission together. Thank you. Have a good evening.

Speaker 4

That concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation. Enjoy the rest of your day.