AirJoule Technologies - Earnings Call - Q2 2025

Executive Summary

• Q2 2025 delivered no revenue but positive profitability driven by non‑cash fair‑value gains and interest income: net income $2.51M and diluted EPS $0.04; cash and equivalents ended at $30.5M with zero debt.
• Relative to S&P Global consensus, EPS materially beat: Primary EPS consensus mean for Q2 2025 was -$0.08*, while reported diluted EPS was $0.04; Q1 2025 consensus -$0.06* vs actual $0.26, both reflecting upside amid minimal estimate coverage (1–2 estimates)*.
• Commercial execution advanced: A250 dehumidification product formalized for 2026 launch with up to 80% energy savings vs incumbents; agreements progressed with a hyperscale data center developer, GE Vernova, City of Hubbard (TX), and Arizona State University; ribbon‑cutting for expanded Newark, DE facility.
• CFO flagged JV spend trending above plan to accelerate productization and field deployments (JV budget now $15–18M vs $13–15M prior), funded by the April PIPE; management reiterated sufficient runway to commercialization in 2026.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

• Strong liquidity and funding clarity: quarter-end cash $30.5M, April PIPE $15M anchored by GE Vernova; equity line facility up to $30M available for future needs.
• Clear productization path: “We’ve laid the groundwork to successfully productize AirJoule®, and… have the team, the technology and the capitalization to execute on a successful commercial launch in 2026” — CEO Matt Jore.
• A250 positioning and efficiency: CCO detailed A250 expected energy use of ~0.4 kWh per liter (≈80% lower than desiccant wheels) and market entry plan, targeting storage, battery, pharma, and military corrosion‑control use cases.

What Went Wrong

• No revenue yet; company reiterated that as of June 30, 2025, it has earned no operating revenue; results rely on non‑cash fair‑value changes and interest income.
• JV earnings drag increased: equity loss from AirJoule JV widened to $2.09M in Q2 (vs $0.58M prior year quarter), reflecting higher operating expenses to accelerate productization and deployments.
• Macro/tariff uncertainty: management highlighted potential tariff impacts on component sourcing into 2026, though mitigated by supplier flexibility, including domestic sorbent options.

Transcript

Speaker 1

Greetings and welcome to the AirJoule Technologies second quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow a formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to turn the conference over to your host, Tom Divine, Vice President, Investor Relations and Finance. Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 4

Thank you and good morning. With me today for our second quarter earnings call are Matt Jore, Chief Executive Officer, Pat Eilers, Executive Chairman, Bryan Barton, Chief Commercialization Officer, and Stephen Pang, Chief Financial Officer. During this call, we'll be referring to a presentation which is available on the webcast platform and on the Investor section of our website. I would like to point out that many of the comments made during the prepared remarks and during the Q&A section are forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainties that could affect our actual results and plans. Many of these risks are beyond our control and are discussed in more detail in the Risk Factors and the Forward Looking Statements sections of our filings with the SEC.

Although we believe the expectations expressed are based on reasonable assumptions, they are not guarantees of future performance, and actual results or developments may differ materially. Now I'll turn it over to Matt Jore.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Tom, and thanks everybody for joining us today. We're excited to share this morning that AirJoule Technologies has now progressed from proving and improving our AirJoule® technology to building products and commercialization channels with our global partners. Since going public over a year ago, we've advanced our platform technologies, expanded our partnerships, and set a clear path to market. We're more convicted than ever that our products will enable a sustainable and resilient future for water and energy. That's why I'm eager to reiterate our purpose and vision with you today. Our purpose is clear: freeing the world of its water and energy constraints by delivering groundbreaking sorption technologies. This mission reflects our unwavering commitment to solving two of humanity's most pressing challenges: access to clean water and the increasing energy demand for air conditioning through the transformative power of our platform technologies.

It's a bold statement, but it embodies what we've been building since day one. Our vision is equally inspiring and paints the picture of where we're headed: to be the leading technology platform that unleashes the power of water from air. We see a future where communities, industries, and nations can access this abundant resource available in the air all around them. Our platform approach means we aren't just delivering products, we're deploying an ecosystem of solutions, a platform that fundamentally redefines how the world thinks about water and power. This is the path we're on, and it's the future we're building every day. Now let's turn to some of our recent developments that occurred in the second quarter and over the summer. Pat's going to provide an update on our strategic collaborations and projects before I go into some updates on our product and operations. Pat?

Speaker 3

Yeah, thanks, Matt. Over the last couple of months, we've announced six new strategic collaborations that are helping us accelerate the commercialization of our AirJoule® technology. In June, we announced an MOU with the developer of an AI hyperscale data center to advance the integration of AirJoule®'s waste heat-to-water technology for data center applications. We've talked at length in the past about how attractive the data center market is for us. Data centers use millions of gallons of water per day in their cooling systems, which poses a massive risk for data center operations in water-stressed regions. Recently, Sam Altman of OpenAI said that the future data centers, which could go beyond 10 gigawatts of power each, will require new technologies and new construction techniques. Our technologies are needed to improve water usage effectiveness, known as WUE, reduce reliance on municipal supplies, and build greater site independence.

AirJoule® is well positioned to be one of those technologies. Another recent announcement is our air-to-water project with the city of Hubbard, Texas. This will demonstrate our ability to use free waste heat to generate water. In the city of Hubbard, which is located in central Texas between Waco and Dallas, their water supply comes out of a well at a temperature of around 140 degrees Fahrenheit. The water then has to be cooled with an evaporative chiller before it can be treated for human consumption. In this project, we'll be putting an AirJoule® A250 right at the well to capture the geothermal heat and use it to produce distilled water from air. This project will demonstrate the ability to use waste heat of any kind from sources such as industrial operations or power generation to produce water from air at scale.

This project includes working alongside the Sindi engineers to pursue regulatory certification demonstrating that the water produced meets potability standards. This will enable AirJoule® to support high-volume municipal and industrial customers with on-site water production. We're grateful to be working with Mayor Alderman and Chief Patrick on this project for the benefit of the Hubbard community. Another intriguing collaboration we're exploring is with a company that provides anti-corrosion solutions to the U.S. military. Imagine a storage depot full of sensitive hardware and electronics equipment. If this expensive and specialized equipment is not stored at precise humidity levels, the moisture in the air can cause corrosion and render it useless. This is an expensive problem, costing the Department of Defense on average more than $20 billion a year on corrosion-related maintenance. Most facilities providing corrosion-resistant solutions rely on conventional technology to dehumidify the air, primarily desiccant wheel dehumidifiers.

Desiccant wheel dehumidifiers require a lot of energy and are very expensive to operate. AirJoule Technologies' market-leading efficiency at removing moisture from air could significantly reduce operating expenses for customers and, in the case of the military, the taxpayer. Also, during the second quarter, we announced a strategic project with GE Vernova to explore integrating our waste heat-to-water solutions into GE Vernova's product offerings. We see massive potential in pairing AirJoule® water generators with gas turbines or reciprocating engines and utilize their waste heat to produce distilled water. Our AirJoule® system operating in Dubai is continuing to effectively showcase AirJoule® technology and performance to potential customers in the Middle East. One of our board of directors, Dr. Marwa Zatari, recently visited Dubai and had the opportunity to see the system in action, as you can see on slide six of our presentation.

The Middle East is an important market for us, especially given the water scarcity in the region and significant growth of high-tech and water-intensive industries. A recent expedition in Dubai included a model showing the farm of the future, which specifically mentioned atmospheric water harvesting as an innovative approach to address water scarcity challenges. We're also looking forward to deploying systems in the U.S. In June, we announced an agreement to sell an AirJoule® system to Arizona State University, one of the world's foremost research institutions in the field of atmospheric water harvesting. Once we deliver the system in the fall, the team at Arizona State University intends to provide independent scientific validation of AirJoule®'s performance and engage with regional customers. Lastly, in June, we added two new directors who both bring incredible experience to the board: Denise Sterling and Thomas Murphy.

Denise most recently served as Chief Financial Officer at Core Scientific, a publicly traded data center developer and operator, and she has many years of public company finance and accounting experience. Thomas Murphy spent most of his career as a partner at the accounting firm Crowe, where he led the SEC commercial audit practice. Thomas has also been appointed as our Chair of our Audit Committee, a role for which he is perfectly suited given his background as an auditor. Both Denise and Thomas attended their first board meeting in late July in Delaware, and we were thrilled with their contributions right out of the gate. Okay, back over to you, Matt, for the rest of the quarterly updates.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Pat. Moving on to slide seven, we've talked on prior earnings calls about our A1000 water generator, which is the foundation for our modular water generation platform for industrial-scale water users. Now we've introduced our A250 product, which is uniquely suited for that industrial dehumidification application that Pat referenced. Bryan will go into more detail about this product line later. I'm excited to be announcing this because it demonstrates that AirJoule is not one product for one application. It's really a technology platform that supports differentiated products across water generation, dehumidification, and air conditioning. Using groundbreaking sorption technologies in our AirJoule systems, we can deliver more efficient and more economical solutions to customers across diverse markets by unleashing the power of water from air. On the operations side, we've expanded our footprint in Newark to accommodate much larger environmental testing chambers.

We've also continued to build our proprietary coating lines where we produce our sorbent-coated contactors, and we've optimized the facility for manufacture and assembly of the AirJoule systems. That entire team, including our remarkable Board of Directors, was in Newark in late July for board meetings and an official, even though we'd been there a year, ribbon-cutting ceremony for the facility. It was a great event with several elected officials in attendance, along with representatives from our commercialization partners, GE Vernova and Carrier Global Corporation, as well as our UAE partner, TenX Investment. We were eager to show off what Bryan and the team have been doing in Newark, and we're just thrilled with how that facility and team have come together over the past year.

On the financial front, which Stephen will cover later in more detail, we completed a $15 million private placement anchored by our partner, GE Vernova. This transaction closed in April, and it also brought several new institutional investors into our shareholder base. At the end of the quarter, we had $30.5 million of cash on the balance sheet and zero debt, by the way, providing us the runway to support our commercialization efforts. Now I'll turn it over to Bryan to give you an update on our product and commercialization roadmap. Hey, Bryan.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Matt. Turning to slide eight, we've laid out how we're thinking about an AirJoule® as a technology platform. The core technology, which consists of our advanced sorbents, vacuum chamber design, and process for separating moisture from air, provides the foundation for different products and applications. For example, in the middle of the page, we have our A1000 water generator. This will be our primary commercial product for modular, large-scale water generation aimed at industrial operations. In order to develop that product for our 2026 launch, we've been building and operating smaller systems this year, such as our A250 system. This allows us to optimize components and validate design requirements as we go. We've also been building out and are preparing to deploy several A250 systems. In talking to customers, we realized that there's a market for these smaller A250 systems, specifically for industrial dehumidification.

We can deliver this product at our current performance specifications and reduce energy consumption by up to 80% compared to the incumbent systems. Rather than just serving as an engineering stepping stone to get us to the A1000, the A250 will be a product launched in 2026. So far, in 2025, we've been successful at optimizing the system to achieve market-leading performance. Now, during the second half of the year, we're working on productizing and delivering pre-production systems to our customers. As we focus on the products to come, it's useful to remind everyone that the core of our technology platform is the sorbent chamber. To take this core component across the finish line, we've been working with our supply chain partners, like BASF, to provide the sorbent at scale and are otherwise working on scaling and designing for manufacturing the chamber system.

We anticipate that our initial products will all leverage the same sorbent chamber design. In this way, an A1000 system is simply a scaled-up version of A250 with more sorbent chambers. This engineering decision enables our team to focus on optimizing the performance, quality, and cost of this core component. As we scale this sorbent chamber into the marketplace and continue to make improvements, all of our products will keep improving. The real winner in this is our customers, who will see the levelized cost of water and the levelized cost of separating water from air continuing to decrease. On the right side of the page is another example of a future differentiated product that utilizes the AirJoule® platform.

Integrating AirJoule® into Carrier Global Corporation's next-gen air conditioning system is a longer-term goal for us, but it will benefit from the engineering and productization that we are doing this year with the A250 and the A1000. Moving to slide nine, you can see how vastly superior the A250's performance is compared to the incumbent technology, which is a traditional desiccant wheel dehumidifier. This is the workhorse of the industrial dehumidification market, but it's an energy hog. It requires over 2 kilowatt-hours to remove 1 liter of water from the air. The A250 system is expected to use only 0.4 kilowatt-hours per liter. That's an 80% reduction in energy, which translates directly into massive OpEx savings of up to $10,000 per year per unit, delivering a significantly lower cost of ownership to the customer. This industrial dehumidification market is relatively modest in size.

We estimate around $3 billion in annual sales. We expect that by delivering a superior product with this magnitude of cost savings, we'll be able to compete and attract meaningful market share. We'll be able to leverage the lessons learned from this product offering as we continue to launch our A1000 water generator. When we talk about utilizing low-grade waste heat to produce distilled water at scale, we're talking about the A1000. In the images on slide 10, we've shown a modular configuration that can scale to meet the needs of even the largest water consumers like data centers and other industrial operators. The water requirements for data centers are enormous. A 100-megawatt data center could utilize 1,000 AirJoule® A1000 systems to supply it with all of the water it needs.

With the rapid growth of data center development projected to grow by as much as 30 gigawatts by 2030, this is a huge market for us. We've talked in the past about tapping into waste heat that's handled by cooling systems, but we're also excited to be exploring the vast amounts of waste heat from power generators like gas turbines and reciprocating engines. Many new data center builds are now procuring these gen sets on their campuses for prime power, a.k.a. their base load, and they emit tremendous amounts of waste heat that's relatively straightforward to capture. As Pat mentioned, we've already announced an MOU with the developer of a hyperscale data center, and we're working with them to integrate AirJoule® into their data center designs to improve water and energy efficiency and site resilience.

As you can see, we're making significant progress when it comes to the AirJoule® products, and we remain on track for commercialization in 2026. Now, let me turn it over to Stephen for the financial update.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Bryan. We can turn to slide 11 of the presentation to see our financial results for the second quarter. As a reminder, AirJoule Technologies accounts for its 50% ownership in the joint venture using the equity method. These numbers in the table are only for AirJoule Technologies. The results of the joint venture are reflected in the loss from investment in the AirJoule JV line, which is $2.1 million for the second quarter, which is in line with the $2.2 million loss that was incurred in the first. AirJoule's net operating expenses during the second quarter were $4.2 million. This is inclusive of the approximately $545,000 in administrative and engineering expenses reimbursed to us by the joint venture under our statement of work.

Operating expenses were higher in the second quarter, primarily due to increased professional fees incurred as a result of our equity-related transactions, along with increased non-cash share-based compensation expense. Our net income for the quarter is $2.5 million compared to $14.9 million for the first quarter. The main driver of this difference is primarily the non-cash gains associated with the change in the fair value of our earnout liabilities and subject vesting shares, which are non-cash in nature. During the quarter, the joint venture received a capital contribution of $5 million from GE Vernova. The $5 million contributed matched the $5 million that we contributed to the joint venture in the first quarter. The $5 million was also structured as an equity investment in AirJoule Technologies to mirror the initial $5 million investment in March 2024 and as part of the $15 million pipe that we completed in April.

Alongside GE Vernova's investment, we raised an incremental $10 million from existing investors and new institutional investors as well. We ended the second quarter with approximately $31 million of cash sitting on the balance sheet of the two entities. Looking ahead, I'll reaffirm that we have sufficient cash and liquidity to support both our operations and those of the joint venture to commercialize the technology. With respect to the JV budget, we had guided last quarter that we anticipated this would come in slightly higher than the original budget, and we now anticipate this to be $2 to $3 million higher than our original guidance of $13 to $15 million, which is driven largely by the acceleration of the productization and field deployments of our pre-production systems.

However, the additional cash that we raised through the pipe is more than sufficient to absorb the increased spend, and we remain fully funded to support our commercialization efforts through the rest of this year and into 2026. I'll pass this back to the Q&A portion of the call.

Speaker 1

Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to be placed in the question queue, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. One moment, please, while we poll for questions, and once again, that's star one to be placed in the question queue. Our first question is coming from Julian Mitchell from Barclays. Your line is now live.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning. Maybe you mentioned it a little bit in the prepared remarks, but maybe flesh out a bit more that opportunity of pairing AirJoule® with gas turbines and reciprocating engines, please.

Speaker 4

Hey, Julian, this is Bryan. Yeah, the idea in pairing AirJoule® with resips or gas turbines is really around combined heat and power plus water with AirJoule®. Most resip engines operate at 35% efficiency, and combined cycle gas turbines can be in the 60% efficiency. What that means is that there's a lot of megawatts available as heat that can be recaptured that's effectively just dumped into the atmosphere. AirJoule® plus utilization of this waste heat is really what we're excited about in terms of offering customers through partnerships and collaborations, you know, water and power.

Speaker 7

That's helpful, thank you. The waste heat-to-water demo effort, maybe help us understand the choice of location, understanding sort of potential partners in the area or local tax incentives and so on. Any more color you could give on that?

Speaker 4

First, just a reminder that we have this strategic project with GE Vernova to incorporate AirJoule® products into their product line, and that's all about waste heat reuse for gas turbines. More specifically, the recent project with the city of Hubbard. Hubbard is a very unique situation where the sourcing of their drinking water comes from a well that is very high temperature, above 140 degrees Fahrenheit, and the city has to do a lot of work to treat that water before being delivered to the community. In this case, AirJoule® is tapping into that geothermal heat. We're just going to pull heat off of that well line and then use that heat to separately drive the AirJoule® system to create water. Going through that is one of the first examples of using waste heat in this setting.

Speaker 7

Great, thank you.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next question today is coming from Jake Sekelsky from Alliance Global Partners. Your line is now live.

Speaker 6

Hi guys, thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 4

Hey Jake.

Speaker 6

Just starting with the memorandum of understanding with the hyperscaler that you mentioned. Are you able to provide any additional color here? I mean, I realize the ink is still drying. I'm just trying to get a handle on what ink you feel like you might be in as far as moving towards something definitive down the road.

Speaker 7

Hey Pat.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, I can take that for sure. Thanks for the question. I think everything that we announce, including this one, are opportunities that we think are near-term in, you know, ideally less than a year to capitalize on the opportunities we have, including this one. I think the ability to use waste heat, which we've already demonstrated, works. As you're probably familiar, converting electricity into compute throws off massive heat. That heat is usually either cooled or evacuated into the atmosphere, and it just so happens to be an input for us to be able to, you know, grab atmospheric water that can then be used for data center cooling needs. We're very excited about the opportunity on that front.

Speaker 6

Okay, that's helpful. Maybe can you touch on how you're managing some of the noise around tariffs and how that might be impacting, you know, equipment sourcing as you head toward commercialization next year?

Speaker 2

Yeah, Jake, it's a good question. I guess the entire country is watching for tariffs. The good news for us is we are in that stage where we've got the flexibility to source components from suppliers. We're evaluating a number of suppliers for each different component. Bryan already mentioned BASF with the sorbent materials. We've also got other vendors for those sorbent materials that are domestic as well. We're keeping an eye on it. The good news is we haven't set pricing and vendor embedded vendors at the moment. As we go into 2026, that'll be top of mind.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay, that's all for me. Thanks again.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jake.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next question is coming from Amit Dayal from H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now live.

Speaker 0

Thank you. Good morning, guys. Congrats on all the progress. This smaller A250 offering, it looks, it sounds good that you are being a bit more aggressive in terms of bringing products to market. Is the key leading value proposition just around energy savings with this offering?

Speaker 4

Hi Amit, thanks for the question. Primarily, it's energy savings for dehumidification. Yes, 100%. It provides the A250 as a dehumidifier. The currently operating in our research floor here is performing equivalently in terms of the humidity decrease and the actual work done, but at a tremendous energy savings. That is really an immediate opportunity. As iterated in the prepared remarks, it's basically a miniaturized version of A1000. It's all the same shared components. It was really a great finding for us that this product is going to be able to service the dehumidification market and provide a tremendous amount of energy savings.

Speaker 0

Understood. Can you give me any examples of what kind of settings this would be ideal for, and who you are going after in terms of customers for this product?

Speaker 4

Yeah, let me just expand on that a little bit. The dehumidification market with desiccant wheel dehumidifiers is quite diverse. Desiccant wheel dehumidifiers find themselves in battery manufacturing and pharmaceuticals, you know, and other very sensitive applications. They also are used prevalently, as mentioned in the prepared remarks, in storage, storing high-value assets that could be subject to corrosion. These can be primarily metal components, but also electronics. When we think about taking this dehumidifier to market, the easiest market for us to go after initially is this type of storage environment, followed by some industrial applications that are going to be the next market for us to go after with respect to the performance and the controls. Hopefully that provides some additional color.

Speaker 0

No, that's very helpful. Thank you. It just helps to understand, you know, who you may be pursuing from a customer perspective.

Speaker 2

One thing I might add, Amit, sorry to interrupt, but one thing I might add, Bryan, is the volumes are pretty substantial for these units.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 0

In that context, guys, you know, one customer could order like four, five, ten of these units at a time. Is that how we should think about it, or is it maybe a smaller size of deployment per customer?

Speaker 4

No, I think that's accurate, Amit. I mean, just to give a marketing context, maybe to Matt's reference, there's about 1.3 million dehumidification systems globally installed, and they have various sizes of offerings in terms of how much air they can dehumidify. This is a pretty substantial market, and with AirJoule Technologies launching a product with such substantial energy savings, we think we can capture, you know, a good chunk of that market. Of course, going into the market selectively, but yes, we anticipate that our initial customer engagements are going to be excited to replace many units. At the same time, of course, there's always proof points and validations. That's expected for kind of the ramp curve, but I do anticipate significant future volumes.

Speaker 0

I was getting to that part. How long do you think, I mean, it looks like you are ready to place these, the A250s with customers for testing, potential customers for testing, etc. How much time do you think they may need, like three months, six months, nine months to just get confident about the results they're seeing from this offer?

Speaker 4

Let's just talk a little bit about timing. The A250 and the A1000 are right now still targeting mid-2026 product launches. The exact timing for when A250 gets launched as a formal product ready to take POs, we're working on the details of that, and we'll provide a more meaningful update in coming quarters. Of course, we'll be working with our customer partners to get these pre-production units into their factory floors as soon as we are capable of. They will want to go through a de-risking on their side to ensure the reliability and the performance is adequate. Without getting into too much detail, I expect that some customers are going to be relatively risk tolerant to their specific application, and some are going to be more cautious in the validation phase before volumes pick up.

I think even with that, there's a significant opportunity to revenue as we go into 2027, especially.

Speaker 0

Thank you for that. Just one last one from you guys. The A1000, right? I mean, it's a bigger offering with, you know, better savings and water generation or water distillation capabilities. Have you guys done any work on how much, you know, maybe a data center can save, you know, by using this versus, you know, other systems they may be using right now?

Speaker 4

Yeah, thanks for that. Specifically around the A1000, it's really around the levelized cost of water that we can provide to our customers. The situation is evolving globally, water scarcity and water security. Data centers in particular, they're building out operations and quite large operations very quickly. Data centers typically design for N plus one redundancy on all core technologies. Water is and should be one of them. Data centers are being built in locations where they maybe cannot secure 100% of their water needs, and they need to have a technology to fill the gap. AirJoule is really one of the only technologies that economically for a customer can close the gap on water generation, pulling water out of the air, and providing that high-quality water to industrial operations at an attractive levelized cost of water.

Speaker 0

Understood. That's all I have.

Speaker 2

Bryan, you might talk about some of the learnings, particularly in Europe, where it might accelerate their permitting process by a couple of years.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean, I think this is not just a European-based thing. Obviously, there's some recent conversations around the requirements in Europe to utilize waste heat from data centers. Conventionally, that would mean district heating. Otherwise, AirJoule is maybe one of the only other, I think, practical applications of this scale of heat, you know, taking that heat to water, water for communities. To Matt's point, oftentimes data centers are looking for power and land and fiber connections and water. Part of that equation in doing site selection, the water is sometimes not available, but everything else is super attractive. That's really where we end up having a lot of excitement with our customers.

Speaker 0

Got it. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Bryan.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next question is coming from Jeffrey Campbell from Seaport Research Partners. Your line is now live.

Speaker 5

Thank you, and congratulations on all the project progress. I just wanted to ask a couple of questions regarding the Hubbard project. The first one being, should we think of the data gathering and the potential certifications sought from the Hubbard project as different from the work with Arizona State University, or is it complementary?

Speaker 4

Yeah, thanks, Jeff. They're complementary, but different as well. The work in Hubbard is primarily a way where we can tap and run for a length of time using that geothermal well that's there. It's not really a geothermal well, but it's a well that's providing hot water. Through operating at length, we will be pursuing the certifications that are required for AirJoule® to be a potable water utility, for example. We'll be pursuing those with the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality as well as NSF. That program, that deployment at Hubbard, is really after those certifications, as well as just demonstrating long-term, I should say medium-term, outdoor deployment, whereas Arizona State University is for independent academic validation, as well as being a regional showcase for a number of customers in the Phoenix area.

Speaker 1

It sounds like the data that you're trying—oh, go ahead, I'm sorry. No, no, Jeff, complete your thought, and then I was just going to add just additional color.

Speaker 5

Sure, I was just going to say it sounds like the data that you're gathering at Hubbard would be similar to the sort of data that you've gathered in the UAE with the demonstration with the pilot facility that you've had there. In other words, you know, a unit that's the primary reason for being there is to create a water source, a potable water.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that unit is a standalone system, Jeff. It doesn't use waste heat; it doesn't have to. It's sitting in a nice location, just pumping out water. You saw Marwa with a picture of that water. That unit will be—an A250 will be placed in that same location here in the coming months.

Speaker 5

Yeah, Jeff, how long—oh, yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1

No, please keep going, Jeff. I was—I’ll come in at the end, I apologize.

Speaker 5

Here's my last one. I just wondered, how long is the unit being installed at Hubbard going to remain there, and is there any indication of where it might go next?

Speaker 4

Yeah, the unit will remain in Hubbard as long as we need to remain in Hubbard to achieve some of the certifications that we're pursuing. We'll be using that deployment to go to the next customer, which is, we'll provide more specific guidance in future calls.

Speaker 2

I found it interesting, Bryan, to listen to Christian talk about the thermal energy coming out of that well. It's enough to support, Jeff, 80 A1000 systems. Long term, we believe we'll make a great impact for the city of Hubbard as a demonstration unit for other areas in Texas where water stress and drought is incumbent there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Jeff, I was just going to offer, I apologize to continue to battle here with you, this is Pat Eilers. When you think about the progression of the commercialization of this technology, you know, Matt and team started in Montana with Pacific Northwest National Lab. We partner with GE Vernova, and we're fortunate enough to, at their global research center in Schenectady, New York. I see the evolution going to Arizona State University as a furtherance of an independent researcher who's an expert in the field, then being able to do this validated scientific analysis and publish research on an independent basis.

As you step forward into what we've accomplished in Dubai and now will accomplish in Hubbard, those are actually systems now put out beyond the scientific approach in specific applications that I think will demonstrate to the research community and our investors the opportunity set that we have in front of us. Hopefully that progression helps you kind of put that progression logically in place.

Speaker 5

I've always kind of wondered with this if the more academic stuff is ultimately going to surround verifying the potability of the water or the quality of the water, because obviously a data center, if they're going to put up a lot of money and put a bunch of A1000s in there, they've already arrived at some level of belief in the system to make those investments. In the UAE, we saw the picture of water there. We know that it's working. If they've had a pilot and then they want to come back with a more permanent system, that's another point of verification that they're satisfied that the systems behave as advertised. You never want to knock having additional data and additional credibility, but just wondering if with Hubbard we know that there's a specific endpoint that's being pursued, which is to be certified as a potable water utility.

That's really why I asked about Arizona State University in regard to that, because it seems like it's more open-ended, although I think there was a reference to trying to take heat off of a smokestack or something, and then they were doing that with another system, and maybe AirJoule® will be compared to that as well.

Speaker 4

Yeah, there's another thing, just one other thing on the Arizona State University deployment, right? The Phoenix area is a very different humidity and temperature profile than Texas or really maybe anywhere in the world. Partly the engagement with Paul is going to be looking as well at lower humidity sorbents. Paul is going to be providing this academic validation of the quality of water, you know, when you're pulling air from different humidity temperature locations, what is the quality of water? They've done a lot of work in that field. They're the leading researchers in assessing both efficacy of water generation systems, like how productive they are, as well as the quality of water. With looking at novel sorbents kind of going in there as well, it provides that additional kind of research validation with Paul.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that's a great line.

Speaker 2

The other thing about ASU, Jeff, is they're not only validation of the technology, but there is a huge need. I think it's pretty well known for housing projects that are stymied by the fact that the groundwater isn't available to support them. It's funny that humans are going to locations and building in locations like that, but that's a fact. We think that this ASU validation will be a great contribution to the solution. The solution we believe is to help those, not just data centers, but housing projects.

Speaker 5

Right. I think the point about doing further research on different sorbents is a good point as well, because if we're not careful, we sort of think of this as a static project or a static product that's just looking for different ways to be utilized. You're continuing to evolve and trying to perhaps widen the range of use cases in terms of how extreme the location is, how little humidity, how much humidity, and so forth.

Speaker 4

We haven't really talked about some of the technology things that we're working on with respect to sorbent. You think about our product and you realize that the sorbent's the thing doing all of the work. How much water we get out per hour, it's all about the sorbent's capability to take up that water and take it up quickly. The main differentiator and the thing that will allow AirJoule Technologies to continue to have the best products into the future is maximizing the sorbent and the capability of that coated contactor to provide a lot of water in a small footprint.

Speaker 2

Right. Yeah, and all I can add to that, Jeff, is the fact that GE Vernova, we've got the ongoing daily and weekly routine with the GE Vernova experts on sorbent development. It's one of the reasons we pulled together. Bryan, of course, has chemists and chemical engineers in the facility in Newark that are contributing to that effort.

Speaker 5

No, thanks, I think that's really great coverage.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Jeff, we've been very deliberate in how we're putting our units into the market. Some is for scientific validation, which we already know the answer to, but it has to be independent. That's Arizona State University. Getting the product to Dubai and getting the product to Hubbard is now a further advancement of seeing it in actual use in the end market applications that we're very excited about. Hopefully it excites you as well.

Speaker 5

Certainly. Thanks.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Jeff.

Speaker 1

Thank you. We did reach the end of our question and answer session. Let's turn the floor back over to Matt for any further closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Kevin. Thanks everybody for joining us today and your continued belief in AirJoule Technologies. We're making exciting progress moving from innovation to product and from product to commercialization. Every step brings us closer to our vision of unleashing the power of water from air and fulfilling our purpose of freeing the world from its water and energy constraints. The road ahead is full of opportunity, and with the momentum and our global partners we have today, we're ready to seize it. We look forward to updating you on our continued progress in the quarters ahead. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference and webcast. You may disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Kevin.