Arcturus Therapeutics - Earnings Call - Q4 2024
March 6, 2025
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Please note, today's call will be recorded, and I will be standing by should you need any assistance. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Neda Safarzadeh, Vice President and Head of Investor Relations, Public Relations, and Marketing. Neda, please go ahead.
Neda Safarzadeh (VP, Head of Investor Relations, Public Relations and Marketing)
Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon and welcome to Arcturus Therapeutics' quarterly financial update and pipeline progress call. Today's call will be led by Joe Payne, our President and CEO, and Andy Sassine, our CFO. Dr. Pad Chivukula, our CSO, will join them for the Q&A session. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that the statements made during this call regarding matters that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of performance. They involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that may cause actual results, performance, and achievements to differ materially from those expressed or implied by this statement.
Please see the forward-looking statement disclaimer on the company's press release issued earlier today, as well as the risk factor section in our most recent Form 10-K and in subsequent filings with the SEC. In addition, any forward-looking statements represent our views only as of the date such statements are made. Arcturus specifically disclaims any obligation to update such statements. I will now turn the call over to Joe.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Thank you, Neda. It's good to be with you again, everybody. We look forward to providing our updates today on our quarterly investor call. I will begin my remarks with an update on progress with our vaccine franchise led by Costive. We're very pleased to receive European Commission approval for Costive, the world's first approved self-amplifying mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. The centralized marketing authorization of Costive, provided by the European Commission, is valid in all 27 European Union member states and three additional European Economic Area countries. The approval is based on positive clinical data from several studies, including an integrated phase 1/2/3 study demonstrating Costive's efficacy against COVID-19, safety and tolerability, and a phase 3 COVID-19 booster trial, which achieved higher immunogenicity results compared to conventional mRNA COVID-19 vaccine comparator. The European regulatory approval results and milestones from CSL Seqirus, our global vaccine partner.
These milestones will be disclosed in coordination with CSL. Our team continues to work diligently with CSL to prepare Costive registration for the United States and the United Kingdom. The Costive U.S. BLA filing is anticipated for later this year, 2025. On the manufacturing front, Meiji Seika Pharma, our Japanese vaccine partner, submitted a manufacturing and marketing application in February for a new vial presentation of Costive, provided in a vial containing two doses, to the Pharmaceuticals and Medical Devices Agency, or PMDA, in Japan. Meiji Seika Pharma aims to receive approval for the two-dose vial in time for the autumn season of 2025. The new two-dose vial presentation will enhance convenience in daily practice and improve ease of vaccination in an individualized setting such as medical clinics.
In January, Meiji, along with our manufacturing joint venture, Arcalis, received approval from the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, or MHLW, to add domestic commercial manufacturing sites in Japan for Costive. Domestically produced products with active pharmaceutical ingredients manufactured at Arcalis's facilities and formulated at Meiji Seika Pharma Tech are now able to be shipped for commercial use in Japan. We continue to progress our star self-amplifying mRNA platform pipeline in other infectious disease targets. In January, the company announced the initiation of a phase 1 study of ARCT-2304. This is a self-amplifying mRNA vaccine candidate for active immunization to prevent pandemic influenza disease caused by the H5N1 virus, also known as the bird flu. The randomized placebo-controlled phase 1 trial is ongoing at multiple sites in the U.S. and designed to enroll approximately 200 healthy participants.
Screening of study participants began in November 2024, with the first participant enrolled in December 2024. The clinical study is fully funded by the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, also known as BARDA. Interim data will be available later this year in the second half of 2025. Moving now to our exciting pipeline of mRNA therapeutics, I will begin with an update on ARCT-032. This is our messenger RNA therapeutic candidate for cystic fibrosis. In December 2024, the company dosed the first participant in an open-label phase 2 multiple ascending dose study in adults with CF who are not eligible for CFTR modulator therapy or are not taking CFTR modulators due to drug intolerance, poor response, or lack of access to modulators. Each adult participant in the phase 2 CF study is expected to receive daily inhaled treatments of ARCT-032 over a period of 28 days.
Our phase II trial involves a relatively low number of study visits, only eight study visits, and only 12 weeks of follow-up, easing the burden of participation for patients across all sites. Safety and tolerability data will be important, given that ARCT-032 is likely to be a daily or every other day inhaled treatment. With respect to efficacy, and based on historical precedents in the CFTR modulator space, an FEV1 lung function improvement of 3% in our phase II trial would likely justify advancing ARCT-032 further into development. Deteriorating lung function is a significant challenge in CF subjects that do not benefit from modulators. Reversing this deterioration would address a very significant unmet medical need in this subset of the CF community. The company expects to provide interim data from CF participants who completed dosing in the ARCT-032 phase 2 study by the end of Q2 2025.
The interim data will likely include multiple subjects at multiple dose levels. Moving on to our ARCT-810 program. This is our messenger RNA therapeutic candidate for ornithine transcarbamylase deficiency. In December 2024, the company initiated dosing of the first OTC deficient participant to receive points in a phase II multiple ascending dose study. Each adult and adolescent participant in the open-label phase 2 study is expected to receive five intravenous infusions of ARCT-810 over a period of two months. The company previously announced the completion of the dosing phase in a placebo-controlled European study enrolling eight OTC deficient individuals. The company expects to provide interim data from participants who completed dosing in the ARCT-810 U.S. phase 2 study by the end of Q2 2025. Finally, we are excited to have announced the appointment of Dr. Moncef Slaoui as Chair Designate in February.
Dr. Slaoui has been serving on the company's board of directors since June 2024, and he has a strong, proven track record in the biotech and pharmaceutical industry. We look forward to working with him in this exciting year for Arcturus with multiple clinical studies and their associated data readouts. With that, I will now pass the call to Andy.
Andy Sassine (CFO)
Thank you, Joe, and good afternoon, everyone. The press release issued earlier today includes financial statements for the fourth quarter and fiscal year ending December 31, 2024, and provides a summary and analysis of year-over-year financial results. Please also reference our Form 10-K, which will be filed today for more details on the financial performance. Before we begin the financial review, I wanted to give you some highlights from our Costive vaccine program and our Japanese JV partner, Arcalis. We are thrilled about the European Commission approval of Costive, and I'm happy to announce that we have achieved several milestones related to this approval. More details regarding milestones will be provided on the first quarter earnings call. CSL reported to Arcturus that our share of gross profit from the sale of Costive during the quarter ended December 31, 2024, was approximately $28 million.
This amount will be credited against Arcturus' share of the COVID-19 development costs paid by CSL. When CSL recoups 40% of the total development costs of the Costive 19 program, Arcturus will begin to receive shared net profit payments from CSL for all future sales of Costive. Arcalis remains an important strategic manufacturing asset for Arcturus with respect to our vaccine and cystic fibrosis programs. We are very pleased with the recent $20 million investment by Meiji Seika Pharma, as well as their involvement on the Arcalis board of directors. Arcalis and Meiji Seika Pharma are committed to advancing the development, production, and supply of mRNA vaccines in line with the strategy for strengthening vaccine development and production systems adopted by the Japanese government. This is highlighted by the recent manufacturing and marketing approval of Costive to include domestic manufacturing sites in Japan.
Seika Pharma and Arcalis are in the process of obtaining approval for a two-dose Costive vaccine targeting the latest COVID strain. I will now provide a quick summary of our financial results. For the year ended December 31, 2024, we reported revenues of $152.3 million, a decrease of $14.5 million from the $166.8 million reported for the year ended 2023. The decrease was due to lower milestone achievements from the CSL Seqirus agreement, offset by increased BARDA revenue due to progress of the pandemic flu program. For the three months ended December 31, 2024, we reported revenues of $22.8 million, a decrease of $8.1 million from the $30.9 million reported in the same period in 2023. The decline was attributable to lower milestone achievements from the CSL Seqirus agreement during the fourth quarter of 2024.
Total operating expenses for the year ended December 31, 2024, were $248 million compared to $245 million for the year ended December 31, 2023. Total operating expenses for the three months ended December 31, 2024, were $56.2 million compared to $49.1 million for the three months ended December 31, 2023. Research and development expenses were $195.2 million for the year ended December 31, 2024, compared to $192.1 million for the year ended December 31, 2023. Additionally, research and development expenses were $43.8 million for the three months ended December 31, 2024, compared to $36.6 million for the three months ended December 31, 2023. The increase in R&D expenses for both quarter and the full year was primarily driven by higher clinical trial costs associated with our OTC and CF programs, as well as the COVID-19 and lunar flu programs in collaboration with CSL.
However, the increase was partially offset by a reduction in manufacturing expenses related to clinical trials and drug supply agreements as part of the COVID-19 program. General and administrative expenses were $52.8 million for the year ended December 31, 2024, compared with $52.9 million for the year ended December 31, 2023. Additionally, G&A expenses were $12.4 million for the three months ended December 31, 2024, compared to $12.5 million for the three months ended December 31, 2023. These expenses remain relatively consistent between the two periods. We expect general and administrative expenses to decrease slightly during the next 12 months, driven by lower share-based compensation costs and a reduction in general and administrative expenses related to the commercial manufacturing transition of the COVID program to CSL.
For the year ended December 31st, 2024, Arcturus reported a net loss of approximately $80.9 million, or $3 per diluted share, compared to a net loss of $29.7 million, or $12 per diluted share for the year ended December 31st, 2023. Additionally, for the three months ended December 31st, 2024, Arcturus reported a net loss of approximately $30 million, or $1.11 per diluted share, compared with a net loss of $11.7 million, or $0.44 per diluted share for the three months ended December 31st, 2023. Cash and cash equivalents and restricted cash was $293.9 million as of December 31st, 2024, and $348.9 million on December 31st, 2023. Arcturus achieved a total of approximately $473.1 million in upfront payments and milestones from CSL as of 12/31/24, and expects to continue to receive future milestone payments from CSL supporting the ongoing developments of the vaccine program.
For fiscal year 2024 and 2023, we burned about $55 million and $45 million, respectively, which was within our internal expectations. We anticipate that our burn will increase in the next two years, driven by our CF and OTC programs as they progress through their respective phase 2 multiple ascending dose trials. Furthermore, as our COVID program transitioned to a commercial phase, our development milestones with CSL will decline over the next year. However, I am happy to report that based on the current pipeline and program, the cash runway will remain strong and is expected to extend until the end of the first quarter of 2027. In summary, we believe the company remains in a strong financial position and has the resources to achieve multiple near-term value-creating milestones for the vaccine and therapeutic programs.
We look forward to an exciting year in 2025, and we anticipate potential interim phase 2 data readouts for our OTC and CF programs, along with the continued development of the vaccine programs. I will now pass the call back to Joe.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Thanks, Andy. 2024 was a historical year for Arcturus as we transitioned to a commercial company with the launch of Costive. As we begin 2025, we look forward to another transformative year with key clinical data for our therapeutics and vaccines programs coming forward. With that, let's turn the time over to the operator for questions.
Operator (participant)
At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press the star and one on your telephone keypad. You may withdraw yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. We will take our first question from Lili Nsongo with Leerink. Your line is open.
Lili Nsongo (Biotechnology Equity Research VP)
Hi, good afternoon, and thank you for taking my question and for the update. I had maybe one question on the flu or the vaccine pipeline, and I guess another one on the rare disease pipeline. For the vaccine collaboration, how should we think about the cadence of development milestones within the CSL collaboration? Has there been any updates in terms of the expectation for the flu vaccine program and a potential combo program with COVID flu?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
I can address the, and hi, Lili. Thanks for calling in. I'll address the flu question, and then Andy can address the cadence of milestones. CSL generally is providing the guidance for the flu program. We completed our phase one for the quadrivalent version of the vaccine. I remind people that CSL has a global license for the flu program. This is an area that's very important to them. They will be providing specific updates on what's next in that area of the flu pertaining to any sort of trivalent or COVID flu combos, etc. We will be deferring to them. With respect to the milestone cadence, Andy, do you want to address that?
Andy Sassine (CFO)
Sure, Lili. Thanks for the question. Yeah, we will continue to receive milestones from CSL throughout the year. As we've articulated, we have earned milestones related to the European regulatory filings. We will provide more details with respect to that in the first quarter call. Hopefully, that will answer your question.
Lili Nsongo (Biotechnology Equity Research VP)
Thank you. Maybe just a quick question moving on to the rare disease pipeline, especially as it relates to the CS program. How should we think about potential differentiation from competitors in development, especially within the mRNA, the aerosol mRNA competitors?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Sure. Yeah, we're definitely different from the gene therapy and gene editing approaches. Within the mRNA space, we're different. We're different with respect to the mRNA molecule itself, of course, our lunar lipid nanoparticle delivery technology, and even our manufacturing and purification differences. What do I mean by mRNA? I would say the mRNA sequence is likely to be different with increased stability and translation. Our lunar lipid nanoparticle technology is proprietary and clearly different. Our IP and know-how in manufacturing and purification may also be meaningful. All of these differences were showcased in our preclinical animal studies and our dataset there, and also in our early human clinical studies.
I think there's fundamental chemical and modification differences to both the mRNA and the lipids and the lunar technology, but also take into consideration the know-how and IP associated with manufacturing and purification of the messenger RNA.
Lili Nsongo (Biotechnology Equity Research VP)
Thank you.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Thank you, Lili.
Operator (participant)
We'll move next to Yasmeen Rahimi with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Yasmeen Rahimi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Good morning, team. Good afternoon, team. Thank you so much for the great updates. Would love to spend some time. I think a lot of investors are very much looking forward to the CF interim data that's expected here in Q2. Could you maybe talk about sort of, I know that you have dosed 12 CF patients. At that interim look, what is the size of the cohort? Will we get one or two doses? What do you want to show at this interim look to really establish its strong POC in this market? Sorry, that's very multi-pronged questions around it, but I appreciate if you could just speak on that.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Sure, sure. I think in clinicaltrials.gov, we've communicated that the size of the phase two trial is approximately 12 people. We do have flexibility to increase that number. In terms of guidance, we've mentioned that we intend to have an interim update that will involve multiple patients and multiple dose levels, but not a specific number has been guided at the end of the second quarter this year. In terms of a bar for success or something like that, we highlighted on today's call, and I'll reiterate here that an FEV1 lung function improvement of 3% in our phase two trial would likely justify advancing ARCT-032 further into development. This is simply based on historical precedence in the CFTR modulator space. I believe that's the color you were looking for, Yas. Is there a follow-up question?
Operator (participant)
Yasmeen, you may need to check the mute function.
Yasmeen Rahimi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Oh, sorry. I was going to ask. Thank you. I was going to ask, do you plan to present this data when it becomes available, or do you hope to get that in at a key conference? I don't know if you have any visibility in terms of.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. We haven't guided how to share the data.
Lili Nsongo (Biotechnology Equity Research VP)
Any disclosure? Okay.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. Whether it's a press release or a specific call or a conference or a publication, we haven't provided any of that guidance. Just that by the end of the second quarter, we'll be providing interim data.
Yasmeen Rahimi (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Okay. Great. I'll jump back in the queue. Thank you.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
We'll take our next question from Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim Securities. Your line is open.
Evan Langs (Analyst)
Hi, guys. This is Evan on for Seamus Fernandez. A few from me. First on cystic fibrosis. First, could you just comment on how enrollment has been progressing so far? Just given the focus on those complete dosing, I guess the anticipated split of class one and CFTR intolerable patients. I guess how quickly or what next steps there would be to advance to the pivotal study. On Costive, glad to see the European approval there and the first royalties attributed to from Japan. Just can you expect at what point you would expect visibility into orders for 2025? Thanks.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Okay. First of all, with respect to enrollment and an update there with CF, we remain on track to provide interim data at the end of the second quarter. We have multiple sites already open and active, and we're engaging several more. Those are highlighted in different CF tracking sites provided by the CF Foundation. You can follow updates there and also on clinicaltrials.gov. It is very active, and we remain on track there. With respect to the Costive visibility on Japanese sales, maybe you want to clarify that for Andy, but can you clarify the question?
Evan Langs (Analyst)
Yeah. For Costive, just with the kind of ordering dynamics that may be typical in Japan or Europe, any kind of comments on, I guess, when that ordering pattern happens and at what point you or CSL would get more visibility into, I guess, quantity of orders for the next flu season. On cystic fibrosis, I also wanted to ask on, I guess, split of class one versus CFTR intolerable patients expected. Thanks.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Okay. Andy, proceed with the first question. I'll take the next one.
Andy Sassine (CFO)
Sure, Evan. As you probably noted recently, Meiji Seika Pharma and Arcalis and CSL Seqirus have petitioned the Japanese PMDA to get a two-dose Lyo approved here in order to be ready for the next COVID strain. As they go through that process, hopefully, it'll happen in the first half of this year. With respect to their orders, we really can't comment on that. It'll be Meiji Seika Pharma that'll provide that guidance. Hopefully, they'll share that as soon as possible. We're excited for the new format, and hopefully, we'll enable them to have a more successful launch with a two-dose Lyo format going forward.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
With respect to the class one and non-class one, really, it's one group. There are several, several genetic versions of this disease. Class one is well understood because those are considered null patients, and they do not have any CFTR in their lungs. With respect to the other subclasses, these are folks with multiple mutations or just very dysfunctional that do not respond or benefit from modulators. You can imagine that they present in a similar manner, and their lungs deteriorate in a similar manner to class one subjects. They are bundled together to represent one group where there is a very significant unmet medical need, and we are addressing them all. With respect to statistically, if there is 18% approximately within the CF community that do not respond to modulators, if you take that 18 number and cut it in half, that would be 9%.
That would represent the class one null patient population. You would anticipate approximately half of the folks in our phase two trial to be from class one. I want to reemphasize that they're all in the same boat. They're all in the same level of unmet medical need, and they all want the same thing, which is a functional CFTR expressed in their lungs. Thank you, Evan.
Operator (participant)
We'll take our next question from Myles Minter with William Blair. Your line is open.
Myles Minter (Biotech Equity Research Analyst)
Hi. Congrats on the progress and the EU approval for Costive as well. It's good to see that. Two for me on CF. The first one's just a clarification that 3% improvement bar to take this therapy forward, if you do see that. Is that on an absolute FEV1 basis, or is that on a percent predicted FEV1 basis? It's the first one. The second one is this is an open-label study. I believe you're adding salbutamol into the administration process here. Would that have any potential impact on FEV1 readouts alone? I'm just wondering whether you're factoring that into the interpretation of your data. Thanks very much.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah, yeah. The first question, yes. The precedent that's well established in the modulator space was an absolute number. That's an absolute improvement of 3%. We do remind investors that deterioration rates in the non-Delta 508 community are more rapid and more significant. The delta would be actually more significant with a 3% absolute improvement is what I'm trying to emphasize. Yeah, that's the precedent 3% there, and it would be an absolute number. With respect to your question about albuterol, the pretreatment with albuterol will have no, I guess, effect on the analysis of the FEV1 response. When these subjects come in to have their lung function measured, it's timed before they receive the albuterol for the next treatment, right? Albuterol is very short-acting and only lasts a few hours, so it won't have any impact or effect on any measurements on the following day.
Myles Minter (Biotech Equity Research Analyst)
Great. Thanks for the questions.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. Thanks, Myles. Good to hear from you.
Operator (participant)
We'll take our next question from Whitney Ijem with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.
Jacob Kim (Investment Banking Associate)
Hi, this is Jocob Kim over at Whitney Ijem. Thanks for taking our question. Maybe two quick ones from us. First, can you give any clarity on the magnitude of cost that CSL needs to recoup before Arcturus will begin to receive profit payments? We know you said the 40% of cost, but any specifics on development costs to help flush out that math? Secondly, now that Costive has received approval in the European Union, what are the next steps towards commercialization? Specifically, will things go country by country, or will there be advanced orders? Anything you can tell us about what to expect next? Thanks so much.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Andy, go ahead.
Andy Sassine (CFO)
No, thanks for the question. We are excited about the European approval, and so is CSL. The good news is they're in charge of the commercialization process in Europe. With all of their experience in the flu program, we're kind of in a good position here to rely on them to lead that whole progress. Frankly, I think it would be immature for us to comment on that since it's their program. We're excited and certainly looking forward to it. With respect to the amount that we reported that they shared with us, the $28 million was our share of the revenue, the gross profit that they recorded in the fourth quarter. That's good news that we're clawing away at the 40% of our total development expenses for the program.
We haven't given specific guidance as to what the total is, but it is good progress for us, and certainly would hope that we'd be able to achieve revenues sometime in the next few years. The good news is that it doesn't impact our guidance, and our cash runway does not incorporate any revenues from Costive. As you've heard, our guidance is until the end of the first quarter of 2027.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Thanks, Jolan.
Operator (participant)
We'll move next to Pete Stravopoulos with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open.
Pete Stavropoulos (Director)
Yeah. Hi, Joe and Andy. Congratulations on the progress and including the EU approval. I have a question for 032 study. Can you just provide a little detail around the safety monitoring? What are the key parameters for triggering, let's say, a pause in the study when it comes to lung or pulmonary-based adverse events? Is there a low threshold, say, grade one or two, or a high threshold, grade three and four?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. Just as a recap, thanks for the question, Pete. Thanks for calling in. There were no serious or severe adverse events observed even at the highest administered doses in our phase one study in healthy volunteers and CF patients. The first-dosed patients in the phase two study are obviously ongoing. If there were any major events, then we'd have to update the market accordingly there with respect to safety. Phase two, we are reviewing safety and tolerability at predetermined time points. We have a data and safety monitoring committee that's staffed by the CF Foundation TDN, this network of clinical sites under the umbrella of the CF Foundation, all of which have long-term experience with clinical trials. When it comes to major lung or pulmonary-based adverse events, there's an appropriate threshold applied, but we haven't disclosed the details of that. I just wanted to provide some context as to our level of experience there.
Pete Stavropoulos (Director)
Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Moving on to 810. Can you just briefly touch on the study design, meaning the types of patients that you're enrolling? Are they controlled, uncontrolled, standard of care, not on standard of care, and any genetic subtypes and age range?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Oh, great. Yeah. For OTC, as we've transitioned a phase two trial here in the United States, we are gaining access to younger and more advanced disease patients. I can share that. At the end of the second quarter, we look forward to sharing an update on the impact on these patients. With respect to subtypes, I haven't had line of sight into that personally, so I don't even know what specific genetic subtype of OTC deficiency they are. I can comment and confirm that, generally speaking, we're starting to get access into younger and more advanced disease patients.
Pete Stavropoulos (Director)
Okay. One last question, if you don't mind. The phase I study for H5N1 vaccine, interim data are expected in, I guess, the second half. What do we expect to see there? Is it doses for multiple cohorts? Sorry. Data from multiple dosing cohorts and the different vaccination schedules or piecewise?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
First, an update on we initiated dosing in December, but greater than 80% of the patients have already been enrolled. We are looking to complete enrollment here just at the end of this first quarter. We are well on track there with respect to recruitment. With respect, what was the other element of your question?
Pete Stavropoulos (Director)
The interim data, what do we expect to see there?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Oh, yeah. Interim data is there's multiple doses and multiple types of administrations, right? Prime boost versus others that are being investigated by BARDA in younger and older adults. It is a really diverse, fulsome data set. It'll be a couple hundred people. The timing of that is likely in the second half of this year. It will include a lot of immunogenicity data and different dose levels, different prime boost regimens, etc.
Pete Stavropoulos (Director)
All right. Again, congratulations on the quarter, and thank you for taking my questions.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. Thank you, Pete.
Operator (participant)
We'll move next to Tom Shrader with BTIG. Your line is open.
Tom Shrader (Equity Research Analyst)
Thanks for the update. Nice to be involved. A lot of comments about deterioration of lung function. I'm curious what your preclinical data says, how that interplays with your ability to deliver CFTR. If the lung is too inflamed or too coated, does it get very spotty? What kind of data do you collect on patients that might inform us? I'm curious if it works well in some patients and not at all in others, how much of a theory there'll be as to why. I have a vaccine follow-up.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
That can provide some context on the preclinical data set that on yeah, go ahead, Pad.
Pad Chivukula (COO and CSO)
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think it's a great question. When we did our initial preclinical work, we did a lot of work on the effect of mucus, the effect of sort of clogging on the delivery of our nanoparticles and the delivery and the expression of mRNA. We've optimized our formulations so that they're stable in sputum, for example, and it can diffuse and get into the right cell type. We did all that work preclinically, which really led into sort of doing our initial clinical trial work. Just so you're aware, when patients do come in, they come with a diverse genetic background, right?
The lung function varies from different patients, but we do anticipate after the initial dosing, after the clearance of the mucus, gradually the nanoparticles will become more efficacious, and over time, they should feel it should be delivered to sort of deeper lung and really go at the cause of the disease.
Tom Shrader (Equity Research Analyst)
Got it. If I can follow up, how excited are you about a seasonal flu vaccine? The other mRNA companies have shown really effective vaccines, but the reactogenicity is so bad they're not probably competitive. Is that high on your list, or is it kind of you have enough to do? Thanks.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. Definitely, these changing viruses are attractive commercial opportunities for the mRNA vaccine space in general because of clock speed advantages in manufacturing and distribution. Self-amplifying mRNA would be considered one of those companies that would be attracted to markets where the virus is changing. That includes COVID and flu. The advantages that we bring to the table versus the competitors in the space is we're self-amplifying mRNA. That means the dose would be much lower. Also, we have shown with clinical trial data and peer-reviewed publications that the duration of immunogenicity is extended to be once a year instead of multiple times a year. I think most people would like a lower dose option that has an extended, more durable immune response and that has complete coverage throughout the year, not just for the season. That is how we would have competitive advantages within the mRNA space.
Tom Shrader (Equity Research Analyst)
Yes. Okay. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
We'll take our next question. Oh, my apologies. We'll take our next question from Ed Ayres with H.C Wainwright. Your line is open.
Thomas Hoffman (Head of Institutional Equities)
Hi, good afternoon, everyone. This is Thomas. You're asking a couple of questions for Ed. Congratulations on the achievement in 2024. First question on CF, clearly a lot of interest there. Given the evolving landscape for combination treatments in CF, how do you see 032 fitting in either as a competitive or complementary agent? Also, can you remind us how large is your total addressable market estimate?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. First of all, we're very excited about the opportunity in CF. We think that transient mRNA therapeutics and protein replacement therapeutics are ideal, especially for those that do not respond to modulators. In terms of the size of the opportunity, you have to take into consideration the latest estimates, whether they're 15% or 18% of the CF community would be very interested in something that could address their unmet medical need. That is a massive commercial opportunity, especially for a company of our size. I think you can look to the competitors in the space and see what the opportunity is there. Did I address your question, Ed?
Thomas Hoffman (Head of Institutional Equities)
Yes. Yes. Thank you.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Thank you.
Thomas Hoffman (Head of Institutional Equities)
Perhaps switching gears to 810, one more question from us for the interim readout and also coming to the second quarter. In addition to safety and PK, what would you consider to be a bar for success from an efficacy standpoint in OTC?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Several biomarkers are being measured and evaluated in our clinical studies, including ammonia and several amino acids and multiple methods to evaluate ureogenesis. Our biomarker strategy is becoming more clear. We haven't communicated that and shared that with the public. We intend to communicate this strategy in more detail later this year, likely concurrent with the interim data set. We haven't promised that, but that's likely. You can imagine that it's not just about ammonia. There are other amino acids that are implicated in urea cycle disorders like ornithine transcarbamylase deficiency. We're one of the leading companies to understand what an mRNA therapeutic can do to not only restore a healthy urea cycle, but what impact that will have on what specific biomarkers that could drive and to establish potential clinical endpoints and pivotal studies.
Thomas Hoffman (Head of Institutional Equities)
Understood. Thank you again so much for the kind of questions. Looking forward to the progress this year.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Thank you, Ed.
Operator (participant)
We'll move next to Yanan Zhu with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Yanan Zhu (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Great. Thanks for taking the questions. First, I was wondering, ahead of the CF data readout, how should we think about variability when we see the data? I wanted to mention that for your phase one study, there is some variability. In some patients, it could be greater than 3% from measurement to measurement. I guess what it sounds like is this will be a few multiple patients, multiple doses. Of course, this is not a very large study, so it is a little easier to discern a signal. Thanks.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
No, it's a great question, Yinan. Thanks for calling in. Variability is something that we have to watch closely. Now, in our previous when we shared FEV1 data previously, that was from a phase one B safety study. It was not an efficacy study. Of course, there would be elevated variability with just two administrations. In the phase two study that we're undertaking, this is 28 daily doses and several measurements taken. That will help alleviate a lot of the concern on variability because this is an efficacy study measuring efficacy with FEV1 and designed as such. We believe that will be the case. Now, clearly, the higher the FEV1, the stronger your statistical conviction on how meaningful this data is.
The 3% that I referenced earlier on the call and in the Q&A session is just simply referring to historical precedents in the modulator community as justification to proceed. It states the obvious that we would like to get higher than that to address statistical significance and variability concerns that you just shared.
Yanan Zhu (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
That's great to hear. May I also ask, is a potential dose response should be something we look for, or maybe at this stage, it's not important?
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. No one has ever established that, or at least hasn't shared that data in the history of mankind. We would be, or us and our competitors would be, the first company ever to show that there is a dose response for inhaled mRNA therapeutics in CF patients. There is rationale to expect that that could be the case. The higher the dose, the more the coverage, the more the CFTR, the more the biochemical and pharmacological response. There isn't any reason to justify that there isn't a dose response. We did see a dose response in preclinical animal models as well, especially the challenging ferret model. I think the general consensus is that we would expect a dose response in human beings.
I like to remind everyone, this is the first of its kind, and we just don't know what will happen, but that would be fantastic if we saw that.
Yanan Zhu (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Got it. May I also ask about safety? I think the dosing frequency is daily inhalation. How do we think about an OMP-delivered product inhaled daily, just in general? Thanks.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. We have done a lot of preclinical tox studies that are chronically dosed tox studies for injectable and inhaled therapeutics in our preclinical animal models. We have not seen any concerns pertaining to accumulating lipids, for example, or accumulating technology. In our intravenous program for OTC deficiency, we saw that these lipids are no longer measurable after a short period of time. We have conviction or confidence that we will not see anything too challenging with respect to safety and tolerability. That is why we have to collect the data with 28 consecutive doses to clearly establish that. Did I address your question, Yanan?
Yanan Zhu (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Yes. Yes. If I may ask a quick question on Costive, could you clarify how many doses have been sold in the last quarter, and how do we think about the first quarter relative to the last quarter, adjusting for seasonality in general? Thank you.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Meiji communicated their recent sales guidance in the second week of February on their investor call. Andy, do you want to provide some color to address his question?
Andy Sassine (CFO)
Yeah. Meiji had originally planned to sell around 4 million doses, and they basically changed their guidance to less than half of that. That is the latest that we've heard from Meiji and CSL. As soon as we get more clarity, I think we'll be more than happy to share that with the market as soon as possible. We're rooting for them, and we anticipate that the two-dose LIO format will certainly help ease and improve the efficacy of the administration, certainly the logistics around Japan. That is pretty much the latest that we have from Meiji.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
The only other marketing difference I would add is the last time the Meiji salesforce was looking to distribute and sell this vaccine, they were the only country in the world that had approved Costive. Now there are 31 countries that have approved Costive. They will be armed with that level of confidence and conviction as they enter the 2025 market. We are definitely cheering for them.
Yanan Zhu (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Great. Thanks for all the additional color. I appreciate it.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah.
Operator (participant)
We'll move next to Yale Jen with Laidlaw and Company. Your line is open.
Yale Jen (Senior Managing Director)
Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Congrats on the progress. In terms of the CF mRNA development, we noticed there's another competitor probably going to report the data about a similar timeframe as yours. I'd just like to see what do you think about the comparison between these two before either one of you reporting the data. I have a follow-up on the COVID side.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. It's definitely an exciting competitive space. I think the first round of competitive performance will be evaluated heads-up in phase two trial data. I think everyone will compare our data to the competitors. If any of the other programs make it into phase three trials, that obviously implies that they saw FEV1 percentage improvements. I fully expect the focus and this is just my and others here at Arcturus, we expect the focus will elevate on safety and tolerability for a daily treatment. In the near term, the focus will be on FEV1. As we transition to phase three trials, I think it'll be obvious for a daily inhaled treatment that the focus will look towards safety and tolerability. That will leverage some of the strengths of our LUNAR technology that's from others.
Yale Jen (Senior Managing Director)
Okay. Great. Maybe just a follow-up here in terms of the two-dose vaccine, COVID vaccine, for the upcoming, I guess, winters. What are the key strains the vaccine was against? COVID vaccine was against.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Yeah. Yeah. The application's in place for the two-dose file presentation, but we have not included the updated variant of concern that's typically provided in the spring by the WHO. Typically, the PMDA and the Japanese regulatory authority aligns with the WHO selection. That should unfold in the coming months. That's what we've seen in the past few years, and that's what we expect for this year.
Yale Jen (Senior Managing Director)
Maybe one last question for Andy, which is that for the $28 million your shares from the sales, I'm just curious, is that just a two-way split or a three-way split because Meiji also I assume is part of that sharing that profit?
Andy Sassine (CFO)
Yeah. No, very good question. It is a three-way split between Meiji and CSL and Arcturus. As I alluded to in my previous call, there's a two-tiered pricing system, and this is the first tier of that mechanism. Of course, the second tier would relate to the sell-through, right, and how much did they actually sell the vaccine for. They'll be sharing that information with CSL, who will then do the calculation on the differences between the two prices and allocate those revenues accordingly. Hopefully, we'll have more color sometime later this year. The mechanism is a little complex. Nevertheless, we're grateful that we have good partners here to help us figure out all these calculations.
Yale Jen (Senior Managing Director)
Okay. Great. Thanks a lot. Congrats on the progress.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
This does conclude the Q&A portion of today's call. I would now like to turn it back to Joe Payne for any additional or closing remarks.
Joe Payne (Founder, President and CEO)
Just a thank you to everyone participating on the call. If there's any remaining questions, don't hesitate, as always, to reach out to our team. We'll get back to you as soon as we can. Thank you, everyone, and good night.
Operator (participant)
This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time and have a wonderful evening.