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    Bank of New York Mellon Corp (BK)

    Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

    Reported on Feb 27, 2025 (Before Market Open)
    Pre-Earnings Price$75.94Last close (Jan 14, 2025)
    Post-Earnings Price$79.10Open (Jan 15, 2025)
    Price Change
    $3.16(+4.16%)
    • Strong growth in the Wove platform, with expected incremental revenue of $60 million to $70 million in 2025 and 36 clients on the platform with 41 signed contracts, indicating successful expansion in digital offerings.
    • Pershing business showing strong momentum, expecting to grow net new assets at mid-single digits through the cycle, tapping into the fast-growing U.S. wealth market with $3 trillion worth of wealth assets.
    • Maintaining leadership in Asset Servicing, with continued momentum, investments in infrastructure, and expectation to maintain its position as the world's largest custodian, suggesting ability to navigate market challenges and capitalize on growth opportunities.
    MetricYoY ChangeReason

    Total Revenue

    12% increase (from $4,311M to $4,847M)

    BK’s total revenue increased by approximately 12% YoY, reflecting stronger overall performance driven by improved market dynamics and successful company initiatives compared to the prior period.

    Securities Services Total Revenue

    Shift from –$44M to $3,333M

    An extraordinary recovery occurred in Securities Services, reversing a negative revenue position from –$44M in Q4 2023 to a robust $3,333M in Q4 2024, likely due to enhanced client activity and improved market values.

    Market & Wealth Services Total Revenue

    12% increase (from $4,311M to $4,836M)

    Market & Wealth Services revenue grew by over 12% YoY, driven by higher market values and increased net new business, building on improvements relative to the previous quarter.

    Operating Income

    Surge from $232M to $1,472M

    Operating income saw a dramatic improvement, rising from $232M to $1,472M, reflecting improved revenue performance, operational efficiencies, and a rebound from the depressed levels of the previous period.

    Basic EPS

    Increase from $0.23 to $1.55

    Basic EPS jumped significantly from $0.23 to $1.55, driven by the strong operating income recovery and improved profitability compared to the previous period.

    Depreciation & Amortization

    Increase from $14M to $1,766M

    Depreciation & Amortization surged sharply, indicating major non‐cash adjustments likely due to significant asset revaluation, capital reclassifications or changes in accounting treatment relative to the prior period.

    MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange

    Net Interest Income (NII)

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    mid-single-digit % YoY growth

    no prior guidance

    Fee Revenue

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    increases year-over-year

    no prior guidance

    Expenses

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    up 1%–2% year-over-year

    no prior guidance

    Non-Interest-Bearing Deposits

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    $44B–$46B

    no prior guidance

    Incremental Revenue from Wove

    FY 2025

    no prior guidance

    $60M–$70M

    no prior guidance

    MetricPeriodGuidanceActualPerformance
    Pretax Margin
    Q4 2024
    33%
    30% (1,472/ 4,847)
    Missed
    TopicPrevious MentionsCurrent PeriodTrend

    Wove platform

    Consistently highlighted as key to Pershing growth; strong client demand, on track for $30-40M in 2024. Mentioned as evolving from workflow tool to broader wealth-tech platform.

    Seen as a major growth driver, with revenue guidance raised to $60-70M in 2025 and 36 clients on the platform.

    Continuing, sentiment increasingly positive

    Pershing business

    Mixed in earlier quarters: negative net new assets at times due to lost clients, but improving post-deconversion. Focus on billion-dollar-plus RIAs, ongoing realignment for growth.

    Strong momentum, 30% YoY sales increase in multi-product deals, $41B net new assets; integral to BNY’s strategy.

    Continued growth emphasis

    Asset Servicing

    Positive growth each quarter (5%/4%/8%), with consistent ETF servicing expansion. Clients consolidating providers, BNY seen as competitive.

    7% YoY fee growth, broad-based momentum, ETF and alternatives among bright spots.

    Ongoing strength, consistent positivity

    ETF servicing

    Rapid growth across periods ($2.7T in Q3, over $2T in Q2/Q1), cited as a secular trend and key offering.

    AUCA at $2.8T, up 60% YoY, inflows outpacing market, validating multi-year investments.

    Strong expansion, crucial focus

    Investment & Wealth Mgmt margins

    Margins have fluctuated: 21% (Q3), improved 200 bps YoY in Q2, lower at ~13% in Q1. Emphasis on controlling expenses and driving profitability.

    20% pretax margin, with revenue up 29% and expenses up 2%.

    Improving but varies by quarter

    Net Interest Income (NII)

    Mixed trends: +3% YoY in Q3, -6% YoY in Q2, -8% YoY in Q1. Repositioning balance sheet to manage rate changes. 2025 NII expected to grow mid-single digits.

    $1.2B, +8% YoY, driven by reinvestments at higher yields despite deposit margin compression.

    Turned positive YoY, cautious optimism

    Noninterest-bearing deposits

    Declined in Q3 (-2%), expected to “grind lower” in Q2, down 5% in Q1 as clients moved to higher yields.

    Up 7%, with an outlook of $44-46B in 2025.

    Rebound after decline

    Clearance & collateral management

    Consistently a growth driver: +16% (Q3), +15% (Q2), +13% (Q1). Realignment from Pershing has created a global clearing platform.

    Benefited from strong U.S. Treasury issuance and trading, 13% fee increase. Expanding global collateral platform.

    Stable growth, high client activity

    Operating model transformation

    Discussed each quarter as part of the ONE BNY strategy, with waves of employee transitions. AI integration highlighted in Q3. Emphasis on improved client delivery and culture.

    25% transitioned by end of 2024, heading to 80% by end of 2025, aiming for efficiency and cross-collaboration.

    Ongoing, significant future impact

    Geopolitical tensions

    Cited as a tail risk in Q3, mentioned in Q1 regarding Middle East conflicts, not discussed in Q2.

    Acknowledged as a key risk, with conflicts on multiple continents adding uncertainty.

    Recurrent, heightening awareness

    Potential recession

    Indirectly mentioned as a possible slowdown in Q3. No direct discussion in Q2 or Q1.

    Seen as a risk but “not around the corner,” balancing higher rates and macro complexity.

    Cautious watch, not explicitly predicted

    Higher interest rates

    Discussed frequently, with repointing of portfolio. Mixed deposit trends, net tailwind for securities yields.

    Viewed as creating market complexity, but supportive of reinvestment yields. NII partly offset by deposit costs.

    Consistent theme, both risk and benefit

    1. Platform Model's Impact on Margins
      Q: Will the platform model improve margins and fee growth?
      A: Management is confident that the platform operating model will drive incremental top-line growth, enhance fee revenue resiliency, and improve efficiency. They expect to sustainably hit pretax margin and ROE targets through the cycle, with more significant benefits materializing in 2026 and beyond as 80% of employees transition to the model by end of 2025.

    2. Fee Operating Leverage Focus
      Q: How important is fee operating leverage to the firm?
      A: While total operating leverage is the "north star," management is also focused on delivering positive fee operating leverage through the cycle. They have multiple levers, including managing NII, fees, and expenses, and feel they have flexibility to ensure positive outcomes even if the fee outlook falls short.

    3. Net Interest Income Outlook
      Q: What are the NII expectations and deposit mix shifts?
      A: Management expects net interest income to grow at mid-single digits in 2025, driven by proactive balance sheet management on the asset side, including rolling over 2% yielding assets into current market rates. They anticipate non-interest-bearing deposits (NIBs) to moderate to $44‑46 billion for the full year, with balances expected to be roughly flat.

    4. Growth in Pershing and Wove
      Q: What's driving net new assets at Pershing and progress on Wove?
      A: Pershing saw a solid rebound in net new assets, aiming for mid-single-digit growth through the cycle. Growth is driven by large RIA firms and broker-dealers, with 36 clients on the Wove platform and 41 signed contracts. They have guided for incremental Wove revenue of $60‑70 million in 2025, up from a $75 million exit rate in 2024.

    5. Risks to Business Outlook
      Q: What primary risks is management monitoring?
      A: Management is monitoring risks including geopolitical tensions, potential downturns or recessions, higher interest rates, and cyber risk. They mention wars in two continents, policy uncertainties, and the impact of higher rates as factors that could create complexity. Despite these risks, they remain pro-growth and believe their platforms position them to help clients navigate uncertainties.

    6. Impact of Trading Volatility on Fees
      Q: How does increased trading volatility affect fee revenue growth?
      A: Increased trading volatility benefits businesses like Clearance and Collateral Management, resulting in higher transaction volumes and fees. Treasury issuance has been a significant tailwind, setting records in transaction volumes and positively impacting servicing fee revenue growth over the past couple of years.