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BIO-key International - Q4 2023

April 2, 2024

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Operator (participant)

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to BIO-key International's Q4 2023 conference call. During management's prepared remarks, all participants will be in listen-only mode. Afterwards, listeners will be invited to participate in a Q&A session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today, Tuesday, April 2nd, 2024. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Bill Jones with Investor Relations. Please proceed, sir.

Bill Jones (Head of Investor Relations)

Thank you, and thanks to all for joining today's call. Our hosts today are BIO-key's Chairman and Mike DePasquale, and CFO, Cecilia Welch. As a reminder, today's conference call and webcast, as well as answers to investor questions, include forward-looking statements which are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that can cause actual realized results to differ from those currently expected. Words such as anticipate, believe, estimate, expect, plan, project, or similar words, typically express and identify forward-looking statements. These statements are made based on management's beliefs and assumptions as of today, and using information currently available, pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

For a complete description of these and other risks that may affect the future performance of the company, please see risk factors in the company's annual and other reports as filed on Form 10-K with the SEC. Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on such forward-looking statements, which speak as of today only. BIO-key undertakes no obligation to revise or disclose revisions to these forward-looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after today. And now, let me pass the conference to Mike DePasquale. Mike DePasquale?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Thank you, Bill Jones, and good morning, and thank you all for taking the time to be with us today. After my remarks, Cecilia Welch will provide a brief overview of our performance, and we will then open the call to your questions. At the outset, I did want to mention that because the audit of our 2023 financial statements has not yet been completed by our independent accounting firm, we were not able to report our full financial results in today's release. And instead, we provided an overview of our preliminary results, which are subject to change. We have filed a Form NT-10K with the SEC, which provides us an additional 15-day period in which to complete and file our audited 2023 results. Now, turning to 2023.

I want to thank the entire global BIO-key team and our partners for their dedication and hard work that enabled us to achieve substantial top line and bottom line progress in 2023. BIO-key grew revenue by approximately 29% to $9.1 million, and we were able to trim our adjusted operating loss, adding back inventory reserve by nearly 2/3 to $3.6 million, substantially advancing the company to our goal of profitability. Following the close of 2023, we completed a two-year, $1.5 million prepaid license agreement with a longtime financial services customer, enhancing our balance sheet to fund 2024 growth initiatives. Over the past year, identity and access management continued to build in importance as more and more enterprises navigate security, efficiency, and cost challenges related to their transition to the cloud.

This ongoing migration and the increasingly hybrid work environment provide a range of growth opportunities for BIO-key, both with new customers and through the transition of on-premise customers to the unique benefits of our ID software as a service solutions. More and more enterprises are experiencing a greater number and a variety of security incidents, reflecting new attack mechanisms, reducing the efficacy of their cybersecurity defenses. Adding to the challenge are persistent shortages of cybersecurity personnel to prevent and respond to cyber, cyberattacks and threats. Further supporting the adoption of enhanced identity and access management solutions are a growing array of regulations, standards, and even insurance underwriting requirements. As we have mentioned, multifactor authentication and password-less security are already front and center for any business that wants or needs to receive cyber insurance coverage.

The SEC's new cyber risk management and reporting rules went into effect at the end of 2023. Finally, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency will formally publish its proposed rules for cyber incident reporting this week with a 60-day public comment period. The CISA rules would require covered entities to promptly report cyber disruptions and ransomware payments, and is just another framework that will put cybersecurity top of mind for all enterprises, no matter what size, in 2024. We believe these examples serve as a very favorable backdrop for the future sales of our key product solutions, including PortalGuard IDaaS and WEB-key, which provide organizations an integrated approach to managing and securing all of their digital identities with technologies they already use, while providing flexibility to support future needs. Our platform allows users to authenticate their customers, employees, contractors, and partners.

It enables any user to connect to any device, cloud, or application, all with a simple, customizable, intuitive, and consumer-friendly user experience. We use server security Identity-Bound Biometrics to support roving users without requiring them to carry their phone or a token. In response to the proven vulnerability of passwords, 2023 witnessed mainstream adoption of passkeys by Google, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, and others due to the versatile security, user-friendly authentication experience that they provide. Passkeys utilize a combination of cryptography and public key infrastructure to authenticate users to websites and applications without the need for passwords. We believe the global use of passkeys, which eliminate the use and inherent risk of passwords, will continue to expand at a rapid pace.

To position BIO-key in this large growth opportunity, later this month, we plan to introduce Passkey:YOU, the first passkey solution that utilizes biometric authentication instead of relying on phone or hardware-based token methods. This differentiation makes our solution particularly compelling for a variety of enterprise use cases, with planned enhancements to the solution coming out later this year. Turning to our go-to-market strategy. In the U.S., our direct sales team is focused on a pipeline of larger customer opportunities, and while the sales cycle is typically much longer for these initiatives, they provide much greater potential to drive meaningful revenue recognition and opportunity going forward. Our other path to market is through the Global Channel Alliance Partner, or CAP program, which continues to build both in its geographic scope and its sales productivity.

We have built a base of over 150 partners, including resellers, system integrators, and other distribution partners. We're committed to supporting the growth and success of our channel partner base in 2024, as it represents a very efficient and cost-effective means to expand our global customer reach. Our direct and channel sales strategy enabled BIO-key to achieve solid growth over the past few years, and we expect it to contribute to meaningful top and bottom-line improvements in 2024. The recurring nature of our SaaS and services model has provided a growing revenue base on which to add new deployments through new customer wins and the expanded penetration of existing accounts. Annual recurring revenues represented more than 70% of BIO-key's total revenue in 2023, with a blended gross margin of approximately 65%.

I've touched on many of the reasons for a very positive market outlook for 2024, but what is critical is the very attractive value proposition that our products provide, plus the fact that enterprise security needs are not currently being met by mainstream authentication methods. We are an industry leader in offering 17 authentication methods and within our IAM solutions to meet an ever-evolving customer demand and use cases. However, it is our deep biometric experience and intellectual property, and the strategic use of biometric technology, provides that greatest differentiation for us and for our IAM solutions and our IAM customers. We currently have more than 6,600 customers across multiple industries using BIO-key to secure and manage access for approximately 40 million users around the world.

We have partnered with some of the larger IAM industry players like SailPoint, Ping, and ForgeRock, to expand our reach into enterprise accounts with deployed IAM solutions that can upgrade their multifactor authentication to include ours. And as our brand becomes better known, we are increasingly finding that enterprises who have significant risk are turning to our channel partners and to our direct sales organization to upgrade their existing MFA to ours. For these and other reasons, we're excited and optimistic about BIO-key's potential to deliver continued growth and bottom-line improvements in 2024 and beyond. With that, I'll turn the call over to Cecilia Welch, our CFO.

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

Thank you, Mike DePasquale. As Mike DePasquale re-referenced, the audit of our 2023 financial statements has not yet been completed by our independent registered public accounting firm, and therefore, numbers provided in our release and our remarks today are preliminary and therefore subject to change. 2023 revenues increased 29% to $9.1 million from $7 million in 2022, driven by increases in all license fees, hardware sales, and service revenues. Service revenues benefited from custom services for our new installations and Swivel Secure service fees and conversions from on-premise deployments of PortalGuard to our PortalGuard IDaaS cloud platform. Hardware revenue benefited from the Q4 sales to a foreign defense agency in 2023. Likewise, Q4 2023 revenue grew 26% over Q4 2022, also driven by the aforementioned hardware sales to the foreign defense agency.

In Q4 2023, we took a $2.8 million non-cash reserve on slow-moving inventory purchased for large projects in Nigeria in Q4 2023. The reserve expense, which was included in the cost of hardware, caused a decline in the gross profit to $3.3 million in 2023 from $4.6 million in 2022. Excluding the non-cash charge, our gross profit would have increased 34% to $6.1 million in 2023. Also excluding the reserve, our gross margin would have increased to 67.6% in 2023 from 65.2% in 2022. We continue to pursue opportunities to monetize this hardware in Africa and other, to further support our growth and operations.

Turning to operating expenses, our SG&A decreased 22% to $7.3 million in 2023, reflecting lower sales and marketing expenses, including personnel and related benefits and outside services expenses. Our channel-centric sales strategy is also allowing us to grow with minimum payments of only related commissions or discounts to total revenue. Further, as many of our team can now work remotely, we have downsized our corporate headquarters footprint in New Jersey in 2023, reducing annual lease expense and related occupancy costs. These cost-cutting initiatives were slightly offset by higher professional fees related to regulatory filings and costs related to debt repayment and reverse split. Research and development, including engineering expenses, also declined by approximately 900,000 or 26%, due to reductions in personnel and related benefits and outside service expenses.

Our operating loss was trimmed by $3.5 million to $6.4 million in 2023, versus the operating loss of $9.9 million in 2022. We continue to focus on cost-saving initiatives in 2024 to support our path to cash flow breakeven and profitability. In terms of our bottom line and reflecting revenue improvement and lower operating costs, BIO-key significantly trimmed its net loss by 48% to $6.2 million in 2023, from $12.2 million in 2022. Likewise, the Q4 2023, BIO-key reduced its net loss to more than 40% to $4.1 million from $6.7 million in 2022, with both 2023 periods being impacted by the $2.8 million re-inventory reserve.

As of year-end, BIO-key has current assets of $5.3 million, including $0.5 million of cash and cash equivalents, and $3.2 million of accounts receivable and due from factor, and $1.2 million of inventory, net of the $3.2 million reserves. Subsequent to the year-end, we, as we have mentioned in this release, BIO-key received $1.5 million in cash related to an expanded two-year extension and expansion of license agreement with longtime financial services customer that utilizes our biometric technology for customer authentication. That concludes our prepared remarks, and now I turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. We will now begin the Q&A session. To ask a question, you may press Star then one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, we ask that you please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press Star, then two. Once again, that's Star then one if you have a question. And today's first question comes from Dan Conhaim, a private investor. Please go ahead.

Hello.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Good morning, Dan Conhaim.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

Good morning. So the inventory reserve was increased from $500K to $3.2M. Is that what I heard you say, Cecilia Welch? 3.2M?

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

It was $400,000 last year in 2022, and then this year, another $2.8 million.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

What, what is it? Did you say $1.2 million was net out of the $3.2 million reserve? I'm not sure what that means.

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

Yeah, we have other inventory that is not reserved. It's fingerprint readers and other products that come in and out on a regular basis, both here and in Hong Kong.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

I guess, I'm kind of wondering, does this mean, does this reserve mean that you guys think you can only get, say, $1 million or $2 million for the hardware, or is there potential that you'll have to write the rest off? I'm just kind of wondering what this means exactly.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Well, I can-

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

Go ahead.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

I can answer the question on the reserve. It's fully reserved, Cecilia Welch. Is that correct?

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

...The African, yes, it's fully reserved.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

So, it's fully reserved. So, in the context of very specific to your question, do we think that we're going to have to sell it at a reduced price? Not really sure. But the bottom line is all of that inventory, when it's sold, that component of inventory, will go right to the bottom line, and, you know, obviously, will turn into cash immediately. And so that's our focus right now. And we have, two, I'll call it, larger projects that, look very promising for us to move a substantial, quantity of that inventory, in the short term. So, I think from a cash and a, a bottom line perspective, it will be certainly positive for us in 2024.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

Okay. Does the Passkey:YOU, was there a lot of R&D on that? Are you done with the R&D? Should we expect an increase in R&D on that?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

No, it's, it's been something that we've had in the works for a while. There's still a little bit of work to do around it, but it's a product that we've actually demonstrated before at a number of industry events, and we'll be launching it shortly, you know, formally launching at GA shortly. What it does, Dan Conhaim, is it allows our biometric to look exactly like a FIDO token, without, again, the token or a phone. So fundamentally, you can put your finger down on any one of our finger scanners, utilize a biometric, and have that act as a FIDO token.

So think about a manufacturing floor where those employees can't carry phones around, and you don't want them plugging tokens into the USB port of a kiosk or a computer that may be on the shop floor, or service techs, perhaps in an auto dealership, or those that are in a call center where you don't want them to have, again, a phone, and you don't want to provision tokens. So this solution is a perfect enabler for a FIDO-type authentication without a device. So we think it's going to be very powerful. And most enterprises, large enterprises, have departments or use cases where they can take advantage of this. And the beauty about it is, it does not require infrastructure.

It's very, very simple, and it can operate underneath anyone's existing IAM infrastructure. So we could... For example, if a client is using a Okta or a SailPoint or Ping or ForgeRock, they can fundamentally take advantage of this solution underneath that infrastructure and take advantage of our biometrics.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

So is this, is this a software-only solution then, or is there still a hardware piece involved?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

There could be hardware involved if they need to purchase finger scanners, if they don't have them available. Yes, it's definitely a hardware opportunity, but it is a software solution.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

I see. So instead of the FIDO-key that the guy carries, there's a reader that goes with the device or whatever they use to log in or something.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

But it stays on the device, so it can be used by multiple individuals.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

Got it.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

So for example, keys, as you know, have to be deployed to each individual, and you have to deploy multiple keys in case an individual loses one or misplaces it, or it gets damaged. In this case, you put one fingerprint scanner on the device, and multiple users can take advantage of that and do a FIDO authentication without, again, having their individual device or their phone to use as a token.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

Now, were your customers asking for this? I'm wondering, is there a differentiator that'll make customers move from the dongle or, or the hardware device to this?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Well, I think there's a number of potential reasons for that. Number one, the cost and the provisioning. So even take the money aside, these keys have to be provisioned. You know, you got to send them to individuals. We're looking at hybrid workforces today that, in fact, some fully remote and hybrid at best, work environments that create a real difficult scenario to provision these devices. So it's compelling to take advantage of a software and again, a kiosk-based biometric solution for the use cases I mentioned, right? In call centers, manufacturing, healthcare, where multiple individuals access a single workstation. So it's pretty compelling. And yes, customers are responding very nicely to the use case potential and the opportunity and the cost savings associated with it.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

... Great. Great. You mentioned 65% gross margins. Is that, is that where you think you'll be in 2024, or?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

As you know, that varies, right? We can be in the 60%-75% range, depending upon the hardware component of that particular quarter. But we're in that range, and I think on a blended basis, we were at 65%. We're certainly gonna be there or above.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

Okay. Of course, this time of year, we always hope for some type of guidance for 2024. Do you have any feel for your recurring revenues or some idea that you can give us on what you feel your growth rate's gonna be?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Well, you know, we've historically grown in the 20%-30% range, and I would expect that we'll be able to continue on that trajectory, and that's historic, so we're not, you know, we're not stretching here. We'd like it to be more significant than that, and depending upon the larger strategic opportunities that we have in our pipeline, that is certainly possible and may happen.

As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we have a bifurcated approach and go-to-market strategy, and that is to use our direct sales resources on the larger strategic opportunities that are a little bit longer-term, but again, are in the high six-figure to seven-figure range, and to utilize our channel and all of our channel partners to handle our small, medium enterprise business and to become much more efficient in being able to consummate a larger number of transactions. And so we're getting better and better there. Our partners are coming up to speed and are getting more independent in being able to source and then ultimately deploy our solutions. So I think as that evolves, you know, we certainly will see growth on both sides of that bifurcated model.

We're not gonna go off and provide guidance numbers, but if you look at our historic growth, we believe we certainly can continue to grow as we have in the past. We're getting closer to breakeven, and to profitability and cash flow breakeven and cash flow positive, and we hope that will be a milestone that we achieve in 2024.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

Okay. And, and what about... I mean, last year, I think you, you announced $7 million. You were very happy with that in terms of recurring revenues. Do you have any kind of feel for, I mean, is it $7 million again for recurring revenues this year, or is it up a bit, or?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah, I mean, the bulk of our sales are subscription-based recurring revenues, and so I think in our prepared remarks, we said about 70% of our 2023 revenue was recurring or contracted, and so, you know, that percentage is likely going to hold and maybe even grow. The only outside of our legacy customers, a handful of our larger legacy customers that still buy perpetual licenses, virtually everything we sell is subscription-based.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

Okay, and the last question, I guess, so how much did you scale down your office in New Jersey? I mean, do you still have offices there, or are you guys kind of distributed now?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Yes, we do. We had a quite a large 6,000 sq ft-7,000 sq ft office, which we had for great, I think 10 years. We probably had two lease renewals on that office. We closed that down, and we're now in the Bell Works facility in Holmdel, New Jersey, which is a shared office kind of complex. So we still have our headquarters in New Jersey, and we have a small office there. And it's a flex office, so we can utilize you know, conference facilities all kinds of different amenities if we need them, but we don't have to pay for them unless we need them and unless we're going to use them. So we've cut our expenses down significantly there.

Also, we look at whenever we have a lease renewal up, obviously, we're looking at efficiencies and opportunities. We're looking right now at our Eagan office in Minnesota, which houses our biometric technology, resources, and all of the equipment associated with that. And we're looking at that as well. There may be some cost savings for us as our lease expires later this year to even get more efficient.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

I see. Do you have a number in cost savings that you can give us for closing down the office? Just curious.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

My guess is that that's probably when you think about all the infrastructure, you know, fiber lines and rent, cleaning, I would say we're probably saving anywhere from $125,000-$170,000 a year, if not more.

Dan Conhaim (Private Investor)

All right. Well, I think I've asked a number of questions here, so I'll get back in the queue. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from Jack Vander Aarde with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Jack Vander Aarde (VP and Senior Research Analyst)

Thanks. Okay, great. Good morning, BIO-key team. Thanks for taking my questions. So, so Mike DePasquale, maybe just some more quick housekeeping questions as we kind of wait for the 10-K. I guess first, when can we expect to see an income statement, balance sheet, kind of complete financial statements? Is that something we have to wait for the 10-K, or is that something you can provide in a press release?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

No, we're gonna wait for the 10-K. We just felt it made more sense. The auditors are, they just weren't at a point where we, you know, we felt comfortable publishing those numbers. So, within the next two weeks, that's our expectation is that we'll file the 10-K, and we'll have the full financials available at that time.

Jack Vander Aarde (VP and Senior Research Analyst)

Okay. Okay. And then in terms of on the front page of the 10-K, it kind of gives an updated exact total share count. How many shares are outstanding, if maybe Cecilia Welch has that in front of her?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah, it's just about 1.9 million shares. Maybe a little bit less, Cecilia Welch, in that range?

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

Yep, you're right.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

That's it.

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

It's a little bit less than 1.9, yeah.

Jack Vander Aarde (VP and Senior Research Analyst)

Okay, gotcha. About 1.9 million shares. Okay. And then, so okay, so that being said, I guess in terms of the Q4 revenue by segment, it just, you know, it's helpful for to try to dig into this just to understand the moving parts here. If I, if I try to back into the Q4, license revenue for 4Q seems like it was just about, just over $1 million maybe, kind of flat, maybe down slightly year-over-year. And services revenue, maybe about $450,000, down kinda year-over-year and sequentially, I believe. I guess, it does that sound about right, 4Q license revenue, just over $1 million, and services revenue, about $450,000?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

I unfortunately, Jack Vander Aarde, I can't answer that question. I don't know if Cecilia Welch has that data.

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

I have that data, but it's not open. But I know it was a big quarter for our hardware, so.

Jack Vander Aarde (VP and Senior Research Analyst)

Okay.

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

I can get back to you on that.

Jack Vander Aarde (VP and Senior Research Analyst)

I guess-

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah, I mean,

Jack Vander Aarde (VP and Senior Research Analyst)

That's fair.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

The only thing I can comment on, Jack Vander Aarde, is that we had a large-

Cecilia Welch (CFO)

Oh, I just said I could get back to you on that.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Defense ministry had placed a very large order for both our software and the hardware to facilitate it. So, it was a big hardware quarter for us in Q4.

Jack Vander Aarde (VP and Senior Research Analyst)

Okay, understood. Let me see. I think that's it for me. If I have any more, I'll follow up offline. Thank you.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Thank you. Thanks, Jack Vander Aarde.

Operator (participant)

As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then one. Our next question comes from Sam Chang, a private investor. Please go ahead.

Sam Chang (Phoenix Merchant Partners)

Oh, hi, BIO-key team. Good morning. The first question that I have is the gross margin. The gross margin for AuthControl is a lot higher than the mobile auth or PortalGuard. Are we planning on selling the, marketing the PortalGuard in Middle East and Europe?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

I think yeah. Let me repeat the question, just to make sure I understand it. So I think you said that, the gross margins on our BIO-key software are higher than the gross margins on some of the software that we sell in Europe. Is that, was that your question?

Sam Chang (Phoenix Merchant Partners)

That is correct.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

So the answer is yes. We sell both, the Swivel Secure product in Europe, and the gross margin on that product is 50%. Obviously, the gross margins on the products that we sell that are BIO-key related are higher. And so the answer to that question is yes, we sell both, and our plan is obviously to grow both of those segments. But yes, certainly that's our mission and objective.

Sam Chang (Phoenix Merchant Partners)

Okay. Thank you. The second question is for the last couple of years, we do see revenue increase, and if you look at the breakdown by region, North America is pretty flat. But we do have increase in Middle East, Europe, and Africa. Is there a particular reason why North America is pretty flat for the last couple of years?

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

I would say some of the larger opportunities that we've closed, like with the International Defense Ministry and a very large bank in Africa, have certainly just from a revenue perspective, those larger strategic deals, have contributed more to the overall growth in our business. Our transaction count seems to be higher in North America. The deals are smaller, and that's what we're very, very focused on right now. Some of the larger strategic opportunities that we have in our pipeline are North American-based, so they're household name companies, and I think you're gonna start to see to see that grow here in 2024. So I think we'll grow across the board, in each of the key regions in 2024.

Sam Chang (Phoenix Merchant Partners)

Thank you. That's it for me.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

You're welcome.

Operator (participant)

This concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Mike DePasquale for closing remarks.

Mike DePasquale (Chairman and CEO)

Good. Well, thank you everyone for joining us today. We look forward to updating you on future quarterly investor calls, including our Q1 call, next month. Please reach out to our IR team, whose contact information is in today's press release, with any follow-up questions. And as always, we'll provide news and updates in the interim via press releases. Again, thank you for your time this morning, and have a great day.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.