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CBIZ, Inc. (CBZ)·Q1 2025 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q1 2025 delivered strong profitability despite macro softness: revenue $838.0M (+69.5% YoY), operating income $200.0M (23.9% margin), GAAP diluted EPS $1.91, and adjusted diluted EPS $2.29; adjusted EBITDA doubled to $237.6M .
  • The company widened FY25 revenue guidance to $2.80–$2.95B (from $2.90–$2.95B) while maintaining adjusted EPS ($3.60–$3.65) and adjusted EBITDA ($450–$456M) targets; effective tax rate ~29% and diluted share count 64.5–65.0M reiterated .
  • Results compared to consensus: revenue modest miss, while adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA were beats; management cited known headwinds (SPAC wind-down, client conflicts, divestiture) and macro-driven capital markets/advisory softness for the revenue gap .
  • Integration of Marcum is on schedule with high retention; management emphasized pricing discipline, variable cost levers, and secular strength in Benefits & Insurance and government health care consulting as earnings support .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • “Adjusted EBITDA doubled” (+100%) and adjusted EPS rose +40.5% YoY, demonstrating margin leverage post-Marcum and disciplined cost controls .
  • Core recurring accounting/tax services performed as expected through busy season, with ~77% of services essential and recurring—underpinning resilience in a volatile environment .
  • Benefits & Insurance grew revenue to $113.0M (+4%) with adjusted EBITDA margin of 27% (+~150 bps), and government health care consulting posted “very strong” growth and a strong pipeline .

What Went Wrong

  • Nonrecurring/discretionary services (≈23% of revenue) softened amid macro/geopolitical uncertainty (capital markets pause, tariffs impact), prompting widened revenue guidance .
  • Known revenue headwinds: SPAC activity wind-down, healthcare practice conflicts between Marcum and CBIZ, and prior KA consulting sale—together ~$30M impact in Q1 .
  • Higher interest expense (+$21M YoY) and a higher effective tax rate (~+300 bps) compressed drop-through from EBITDA to EPS (GAAP EPS $1.91) .

Financial Results

Headline Metrics vs Prior Periods

MetricQ3 2024Q4 2024Q1 2025
Revenue ($USD Millions)$438.9 $460.3 $838.0
GAAP Diluted EPS ($)$0.70 $(1.53) $1.91
Adjusted Diluted EPS ($)$0.84 $(0.20) $2.29
Operating Income ($USD Millions)$49.7 $(106.7) $200.0
Gross Margin %16.6% (13.4%) 27.2%

Notes: Q4 seasonality amplified by Marcum close in November and related transaction/integration costs .

Estimates vs Actual (Q1 2025)

MetricConsensusActualSurprise
Revenue ($USD Millions)$860.25*$838.01 Miss (~-2.6%)*
Adjusted Diluted EPS ($)$2.11*$2.29 Beat (~+8.7%)*
Adjusted EBITDA ($USD Millions)$219.46*$237.62 Beat (~+8.3%)*

Values retrieved from S&P Global.
Interpretation: Modest top-line miss offset by stronger profitability; management cited known items and macro-driven softness .

Segment Breakdown (Q1 2025 vs Q1 2024)

SegmentRevenue Q1 2024 ($M)Revenue Q1 2025 ($M)Gross Margin Q1 2024 ($M)Gross Margin Q1 2025 ($M)
Financial Services$372.6 $713.7 $107.1 $203.2
Benefits & Insurance Services$108.4 $113.0 $24.8 $27.6
National Practices$13.3 $11.4 $1.3 $1.1
Total$494.3 $838.0 $117.8 $228.1

KPIs and Balance Sheet Highlights

KPIQ4 2024Q1 2025
Days Sales Outstanding (DSO)73 96
Debt to Equity78.6% 79.8%
Total Debt, net ($USD Millions)ST: $66.2; LT: $1,333.8 ST: $66.2; LT: $1,462.5
Cash, Cash Equivalents & Restricted Cash ($USD Millions)$187.2 $149.3
Net Cash from Operating Activities ($USD Millions)N/A (quarterly not provided)$(88.3)

Operational note: Seasonal working capital usage peaks in Q1; debt capacity ~$385M unused on $2.0B facility .

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious Guidance (Feb 26, 2025)Current Guidance (Apr 24, 2025)Change
Total RevenueFY 2025$2.90–$2.95B $2.80–$2.95B Lowered low end
GAAP Diluted EPSFY 2025$1.97–$2.02 $1.97–$2.02 Maintained
Adjusted Diluted EPSFY 2025$3.60–$3.65 $3.60–$3.65 Maintained
Adjusted EBITDAFY 2025$450–$456M $450–$456M Maintained
Effective Tax RateFY 2025~29% ~29% Maintained
Diluted Share CountFY 202564.5–65.0M 64.5–65.0M Maintained

Rationale: Widened revenue range reflects limited visibility in nonrecurring services amid macro/geopolitical uncertainty; earnings range preserved via variable cost levers and pricing .

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q3 2024, Q4 2024)Current Period (Q1 2025)Trend
Macro/capital marketsQ3: advisory stronger but project-based; transaction costs for Marcum; caution on election/geopolitics Capital markets pause; tariffs impacting deal flow; widened revenue guide Softening in nonrecurring
Pricing disciplinePricing drove majority of organic growth; formal tools embedded Continued yield lift; benefits margins expanded Positive, sustained
Government healthcare consultingStrong growth and new projects “Very strong” growth; tailwinds from compliance/cost containment Strengthening
Marcum integration & synergiesIMO established; scale benefits; synergies targeted over multi-years On schedule; tech systems unification next; ~$25M synergies mostly year 2+ Executing; benefits ahead
Leverage/capital allocationNew $2.0B facility; deleveraging plan to ~2x in 24 months Leverage ~4x at Q1; plan to 2–2.5x by end-2026; ROFR on Marcum share resales Deleveraging path intact
Nonrecurring mixAdvisory/PE episodic; Q3 strength despite headwinds Nonrecurring ~23% of revenue; visibility limited Heightened sensitivity

Management Commentary

  • “Approximately 77% of our services are essential and recurring… our operating model enables us to deliver strong earnings and cash flow in varying business climates.” — CEO Jerry Grisko .
  • “We are pleased to confirm and maintain our previously announced guidance for adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS… we are widening our revenue guidance to be within a range of $2.8 billion to $2.95 billion.” — CEO Jerry Grisko .
  • “Adjusted EBITDA doubled… reflecting the strong margin and scale attributes of our business model as well as the meaningful accretive impact of the acquisition.” — CFO Brad Lakhia .
  • “Nonrecurring services now represent approximately 23% of our revenue… we now expect full year 2025 revenue to be within a range of $2.8 billion to $2.95 billion.” — CFO Brad Lakhia .
  • “A major area of focus in the months ahead will be the integration of our technology systems… enabling operational improvements, process standardization and greater value.” — CEO Jerry Grisko .

Q&A Highlights

  • Nonrecurring exposure: Capital markets and deal-related work are main swing factors; tariffs and uncertainty can pause activity month-to-month .
  • Government health care consulting: Strong growth expected, potential to benefit if federal workforce reductions increase reliance on external partners .
  • Integration costs: ~$75M in 2025 (ex-facilities) with IT-related portions into 2026; facility optimization costs likely more pronounced in 2026 .
  • Revenue guide context: Low end contemplates continuation of Q1 softness and analogs to COVID-era discretionary declines (10%–15% on project work) .
  • Protecting earnings: Variable comp accruals reversed if growth slows; hiring moderated; discretionary opex (T&E, advertising) flexed; outsourcing benefits—roughly “two-thirds people costs, one-third discretionary” levers .
  • Capital allocation and shares: Focus on deleveraging; ~4.4M shares from Marcum become sale-eligible May 1, 2025, with ROFR; authorized to repurchase up to 5M shares .

Estimates Context

  • Q1 2025 vs consensus: revenue modest miss; adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA beats (see table above). Values retrieved from S&P Global.
  • With widened FY revenue range but maintained EPS/EBITDA, Street models may shift mix assumptions—lower top-line for discretionary/advisory offset by margin resilience and cost flex. Management’s focus on adjusted EBITDA margin improvement targets (20–50 bps per year) provides an anchor for forward estimates .

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Earnings quality resilient: despite revenue visibility challenges, management reaffirmed adjusted EPS/EBITDA guidance, supported by pricing discipline and variable cost levers .
  • Revenue sensitivity concentrated in nonrecurring work (~23% of mix); catalysts include capital markets recovery, improved tariff clarity, and PE deal flow resumption .
  • Integration on schedule: technology platform unification and cross-sell (especially B&I into Marcum clients) are medium-term earnings drivers; ~$25M synergies mostly year 2+ .
  • Balance sheet strategy: deleveraging trajectory to ~2–2.5x by 2026 with strong cash generation; watch seasonal working capital usage (Q1) and earn-out payments cadence .
  • Share dynamics: Marcum share release schedule and ROFR could create technical overhang; buyback authorization provides flexibility .
  • Government health care consulting and Benefits & Insurance offer defensive growth pillars amid macro uncertainty .
  • Near-term trading: widened revenue range may pressure headline multiples, but maintained EPS/EBITDA and integration progress are supportive; catalysts include improved capital markets activity and integration milestones.