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    CLEAN HARBORS (CLH)

    Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

    Reported on Apr 14, 2025 (Before Market Open)
    Pre-Earnings Price$226.70Last close (Feb 18, 2025)
    Post-Earnings Price$226.70Open (Feb 19, 2025)
    Price Change
    $0.00(0.00%)
    • Environmental Services growth & margin expansion: The Q&A highlighted that Clean Harbors’ Environmental Services business is experiencing organic growth in field services in the high single digits and improved project work, supporting record margins and a continuous track record of margin expansion.
    • Kimball Incinerator ramp-up and capacity expansion: The new incinerator in Kimball, Nebraska adds approximately 12% more capacity to the North American network and is forecast to contribute $8–$12 million of EBITDA this year, with smooth ramp-up developments that improve over time.
    • Robust PFAS and M&A pipeline opportunities: Management discussed an active PFAS pipeline growing about 20% quarter-over-quarter along with an aggressive M&A strategy, which could unlock additional long-term growth avenues in a multibillion-dollar market.
    • Commodity pricing risks: Management acknowledged significant uncertainty in base oil pricing—declining through year‐end—and the challenge of predicting future movements, which could negatively impact margins and volumes in the SKSS segment.
    • Near-term margin and growth pressures: Guidance for Q1 suggests softer performance, with lower margins due to headwinds like seasonal issues, higher cost inventory, and start-up challenges, all of which could dampen overall performance.
    • Regulatory and capital expenditure risks: Ongoing reviews of incinerator standards (MACT) and potential future regulatory changes may force additional capital investments and operational disruptions, posing risks to future profitability.
    MetricYoY ChangeReason

    Total Revenue

    +7% (from $1,338.17M in Q4 2023 to $1,431.12M in Q4 2024)

    Revenue increased driven by continued organic growth and acquisitions, replicating earlier period trends where improved environmental and technical service performance contributed to higher top-line numbers compared to the prior periods.

    Service Revenues

    +9% YoY

    Service revenues grew largely due to strong field and emergency response performance, akin to earlier periods where acquisitive growth (e.g. HEPACO) and better network volumes boosted core service outcomes, pushing revenues from $1,073.81M (or similar Q3 trends) to $1,208.84M.

    Operating Income

    -7% (from $147.29M in Q4 2023 to $136.97M in Q4 2024)

    Despite higher revenues, operating income decreased due to margin compression—possibly reflecting increased input costs, lower operating efficiencies, or non-recurring expenses. This contrasts with earlier improvements seen in Q3 2024, suggesting that the benefit of acquisitions and organic growth was offset by heightened operational challenges.

    Net Income

    -14% (from $98.35M in Q4 2023 to $83.97M in Q4 2024)

    Net income declined significantly even though top-line figures were higher; factors include the narrowing of operating margins and possibly higher non-operating expenses, echoing previous periods where operational headwinds impacted bottom-line profitability despite revenue gains.

    Geographic Revenue Breakdown

    Negative revenues in Q4 2024 (US: -$1,519.32M; Canada: -$172.24M; Total: -$1,691.56M)

    A dramatic reversal to negative geographic figures suggests a reclassification or an accounting adjustment, such as intercompany eliminations or currency translation factors, contrasting with the previously stable positive figures.

    Operating Cash Flow

    +9% (from $278.86M in Q4 2023 to $303.94M in Q4 2024)

    Operating cash flow improved due to higher net income adjustments, increased depreciation and amortization, and better working capital management, even as certain revenue and expense pressures continued; similar cash flow strength was noted in prior quarters when operational shifts provided momentum.

    MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange

    Adjusted EBITDA

    FY 2025

    Midpoint $1.11B

    Midpoint $1.18B

    raised

    Adjusted Free Cash Flow

    FY 2025

    Midpoint $300M

    Midpoint $460M

    raised

    Capital Expenditures (CapEx)

    FY 2025

    $400M–$430M

    $345M–$375M

    lowered

    Depreciation and Amortization

    FY 2025

    $395M–$405M

    $440M–$450M

    raised

    SG&A Expense

    FY 2025

    mid‑12% of revenue

    mid‑12% of revenue

    no change

    Kimball Incinerator Contribution (annual)

    FY 2025

    $8M–$12M

    $8M–$12M

    no change

    TopicPrevious MentionsCurrent PeriodTrend

    Environmental Services Growth & Margin Expansion

    Q1, Q2, and Q3 earnings calls consistently highlighted strong organic revenue and EBITDA growth driven by volume, pricing, and operational efficiencies (e.g., 10–16% revenue and margin expansions, record EBITDA margins, 10+ consecutive quarters of improvement).

    Q4 2024 continued to emphasize consistent growth with field services (e.g., HEPACO’s contribution), 11th consecutive quarter of margin improvement, and robust pricing initiatives leading to further margin gains.

    Consistently positive performance with a steady track record of growth and margin expansion.

    Evolving Incinerator Performance & Capacity Expansion & Pricing Uncertainty

    Q1 noted stable incineration utilization (79%) and 6% pricing increases; Q2 discussed capacity expansion (Kimball planned for Q4, Deer Park disruption, PFAS testing) and incineration pricing modest increases; Q3 focused on initiating Kimball operations, robust incineration utilization (89%), and advanced PFAS testing.

    Q4 2024 detailed the commercial launch of the Kimball incinerator, resolution of initial start‐up disruptions, continued capacity growth (12% increase), and incremental pricing improvements amid ongoing PFAS testing.

    Steady progress with improved operational execution and capacity expansion, while managing pricing uncertainties.

    Robust PFAS Pipeline Expansion & Market Opportunity

    Q1 reported 15–20% pipeline growth generating $50–70M annually; Q2 emphasized broad PFAS solutions with stable regulatory expectations; Q3 noted strong pipeline growth (15–25% QoQ) with a run rate approaching $80–$100M.

    Q4 2024 highlighted roughly 20% quarter-on-quarter pipeline growth, underscoring the multibillion-dollar market opportunity underpinned by rigorous PFAS incineration testing and regulatory focus.

    Consistent and bullish expansion with an increasingly attractive long‑term market opportunity.

    Recurring M&A Strategy and Acquisition Integration

    Q1 featured an active M&A pipeline and successful integrations (HEPACO, Noble Oil) with positive synergy prospects; Q2 emphasized disciplined transformational deals and integration ahead of schedule; Q3 reiterated the “5 star” integration performance despite some billing challenges.

    Q4 2024 reaffirmed an aggressive M&A strategy with continued integration of key acquisitions contributing significantly to segment revenue and demonstrating effective deal execution despite some short-term cost impacts.

    Persistently positive, with smooth integrations and strategic growth through acquisitions sustained over time.

    Persistent Base Oil Pricing Volatility & SKSS Segment Challenges

    Q1 flagged challenging base oil pricing impacting non-contracted volumes, though end‐quarter recovery signs emerged; Q2 experienced modest year‑over‑year profitability declines and strategic shifts amid pricing uncertainty; Q3 detailed softening demand, inventory buildup, and significant margin pressure leading to production adjustments.

    Q4 2024 reiterated ongoing pricing volatility with continued aggressive pricing adjustments (e.g., charge-for-oil model), reduced SKSS revenue/EBITDA, and a cautious outlook as volatile commodity pricing persists.

    Ongoing and persistent challenges that require defensive pricing strategies and continued adjustments.

    Shifting Regulatory Environment Impacts

    Q1 had no specific discussion; Q2 stressed regulatory stability around PFAS and hazardous waste (e.g., Chevron ruling, unchanged framework); Q3 alluded to PFAS-related testing and a favorable regulatory backdrop.

    Q4 2024 introduced a more nuanced discussion by emphasizing favorable regulatory tailwinds (no material rollbacks) coupled with potential capital expenditure risks for older captive incinerators due to upcoming MACT standard updates.

    An emerging focus in Q4, balancing positive regulatory support with new capex risk considerations.

    Emerging Dependence on Sporadic Emergency Response Events

    Q1 did not address emergency response separately; Q2 explicitly highlighted significant contributions from large ER events (e.g., $24M revenue impact, 64% growth in Field Services driven by ER events); Q3 made only minimal mentions.

    Q4 2024 did not explicitly focus on ER events as a dependency but noted high total event counts (>20,000), implying that while ER remains important, it is now integrated into broader operational achievements rather than a concentrated revenue driver.

    Reduced explicit emphasis in Q4 compared to Q2, suggesting ER events are now part of regular operations rather than a focused dependency.

    Topics No Longer Emphasized: Increased Debt and CapEx Pressures

    Q1 and Q2 detailed increased debt from recent acquisitions and rising CapEx associated with projects like Kimball and Baltimore, with significant focus on debt levels, rates, and CapEx guidance; Q3 provided extensive commentary on debt levels, interest rate management, and detailed CapEx spend.

    Q4 2024 de-emphasized these aspects; while debt and CapEx details are mentioned (e.g., refinancing and CapEx outlook), the focus shifted away from pressures toward operational performance and growth investments.

    A notable de‑emphasis in Q4, indicating a shift in focus from financial pressures to operational achievements and growth.

    Topics No Longer Emphasized: Underperforming Industrial Services

    Q1 was optimistic with 7% revenue growth and strategic improvements; Q2 and Q3 discussed challenges, particularly in the refinery vertical, citing reduced turnaround activity and scope, alongside diversification efforts and pricing adjustments.

    Q4 2024 acknowledged underperformance in Industrial Services due to reduced refinery spending but focused on a recovery outlook for 2025 with increased turnaround bookings and cost management measures.

    A shift from earlier challenges to a future recovery focus, explicitly de-emphasizing past underperformance with an optimistic 2025 outlook.

    1. EBITDA Guidance
      Q: Explain Q1 to full‐year SKSS EBITDA jump?
      A: Management explained that Q1 EBITDA will be lower due to higher inventory costs and softer pricing, but benefits from improved CFO pricing later in the year are expected to drive the full‐year target of $140 million.

    2. ES Guidance
      Q: What drives softer Q1 ES growth?
      A: They expect Q1 ES growth around 5.5% owing to seasonal headwinds and reduced HEPACO contributions, with additional synergies emerging in subsequent quarters.

    3. Kimball Ramp-Up
      Q: How is the Kimball incinerator performing?
      A: Management indicated Kimball is ramping up despite a slow start in January, with an expected incremental EBITDA of $8–12 million this year, increasing further over time.

    4. M&A Activity
      Q: Will M&A deals be active this year?
      A: They remain very active in the market, continuously evaluating opportunities that add strategic and financial value, ensuring a robust pipeline of transactions.

    5. Customer Demand
      Q: How are customer verticals performing overall?
      A: Strong demand is noted across all segments, with especially robust performance in containerized waste and emergency response, contributing to high single-digit growth in volumes.

    6. Customer Retention
      Q: How is retention tracking amid pricing increases?
      A: Despite aggressive pricing measures, customer churn has remained minimal, reflecting strong customer retention and confidence in their pricing strategy.

    7. Industrial & FS Growth
      Q: What growth trends are seen in Industrial and FS?
      A: Organic growth in field services is achieving around 7–8%, and Industrial Services are poised for recovery driven by an increased number of refinery turnarounds.

    8. PFAS Opportunity
      Q: Is PFAS revenue growth being built in?
      A: Although the PFAS pipeline is expanding (about 20% quarter-over-quarter), management did not incorporate any significant revenue uplift in the current guidance.

    9. Captive Incinerators
      Q: What is the market size for captive incinerators?
      A: There are 41 active captive incinerators today, with roughly 20 potentially changing over the next 3–5 years due to evolving regulations and cost efficiency reviews.

    10. Captive Burn Slots
      Q: Is Kimball filling captive burn slots?
      A: Management is actively engaging captive incinerator customers to evaluate their next steps as Kimball comes online, which presents promising additional opportunities.

    11. Base Oil Pricing
      Q: How are base oil pricing conditions affecting SKSS?
      A: Base oil pricing has softened, positioning the company as a price taker with expectations of flat trends punctuated by a modest summer uptick.

    12. Used Oil Collection
      Q: Are you over-collecting used oil?
      A: They are intentionally undercollecting to protect optimal CFO pricing, avoiding overcollection and managing the volume prudently.

    13. MACT Standards
      Q: What update is there on MACT standards timing?
      A: The review is progressing with an anticipated full implementation over the next 3–5 years as the EPA completes its ongoing studies.

    14. Geographic Expansion
      Q: Are new semiconductor geographies under evaluation?
      A: Beyond Phoenix, management is evaluating select geographies with strong customer bases, aiming to capitalize on rapid regional market growth.

    15. Tariff Policy Impact
      Q: How does Trump’s tariff policy affect the business?
      A: They do not anticipate any material impact, as the regulatory environment remains stable and key to their operational foundation.

    16. Corporate Expenses
      Q: Is corporate spending around $80 million feasible Q1?
      A: Management expects Q1 corporate expenses to be lower than $80 million, reflecting strict cost controls and operational discipline.

    17. Bird Flu Impact
      Q: Will bird flu drive resource allocation?
      A: While they are providing some informal assistance, there are no significant or material efforts underway related to bird flu.

    18. Wildfire Cleanup
      Q: Do wildfire cleanups offer incremental opportunities?
      A: They are actively involved in cleanup efforts, though these are not substantial enough to materially affect overall guidance.

    19. Re-Refining Capacity
      Q: What is the current base oil re-refining capacity?
      A: Capacity remains stable at approximately 260, similar to Q4 2023, as recent acquisitions and closures have effectively balanced out.

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