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CNA FINANCIAL CORP (CNA)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Core EPS was $1.25 on core income of $342M, down 6% YoY, while net EPS was $0.07 due to a $290M after-tax pension settlement charge; P&C underlying combined ratio remained strong at 91.4% and underlying underwriting gain hit a record $222M .
- Property & Casualty combined ratio was 93.1% vs 92.1% LY, with catastrophes adding 1.8 pts (mainly Hurricane Milton), offset by a 1.2-pt expense ratio improvement from NEP growth; net investment income rose 5% to $644M .
- Commercial delivered record underlying profitability (90.0% underlying CR) and all-in underwriting gain of $106M as NEP grew 14%; Specialty margins compressed on management liability pricing; International saw FX headwinds and higher cats .
- Capital and dividends: regular dividend raised 5% to $0.46 and a $2.00 special dividend declared; book value/share ex-AOCI was $46.16 (+8% YoY adjusted for dividends); AM Best revised outlooks to Positive in December .
- 2025 setup: CFO guides fixed-income and other investment income of ~$550M in Q1 2025 and ~$2.225B for FY 2025, ~21% core tax rate, and expense ratio run-rate ~30.5%; management estimates $40–$70M net exposure to California wildfires—watch estimate updates and catastrophe trends .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Record underlying underwriting gain ($222M) and lowest P&C expense ratio since 2008 (30.0%): “The expense ratio of 30.0% was the lowest since 2008, a significant contributing factor to our excellent underlying combined ratio” — CEO Douglas Worman .
- Commercial segment records: underlying combined ratio 90.0% (lowest since 2008), all-in underwriting gain $106M, and NEP +14%; commercial auto rate +17% and excess casualty +11% supported rate adequacy above loss cost trends .
- Investment income momentum: total NII $644M (+5% YoY) with favorable fixed income and strong LP/common stock performance; full-year NII $2.497B (+10%) .
What Went Wrong
- Core EPS down and Specialty margin compression: Specialty combined ratio rose to 93.8% (vs 90.8% LY) on continued management liability pricing pressure (underlying LR +1.5 pts) and higher expense ratio .
- International headwinds: cats of $12M (
3.9 pts) and FX losses ($15M pretax) drove combined ratio to 94.8% (vs 93.0% LY) despite NEP +11% . - Corporate charges and legacy exposures: core loss widened to $(91)M, including non-economic A&EP LPT accounting charge ($35M after-tax) and $17M after-tax legacy mass tort development; watch continued reserve reviews .
Financial Results
Consolidated headline metrics (oldest → newest)
Segment breakdown – profitability and mix (Q4 2024 vs Q4 2023)
KPIs and production (oldest → newest; P&C consolidated)
Guidance Changes
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- “The underlying underwriting gain was up 10% in the quarter to a record high of $222 million… expense ratio of 30.0% was the lowest since 2008” — Douglas Worman, CEO .
- “Commercial… underlying combined ratio was a record low of 90.0%… all-in underwriting gain of $106 million was the best on record” — Management remarks .
- “We currently believe an expense ratio of about 30.5% is a reasonable run rate heading into 2025” — Scott Lindquist, CFO .
- “We expect income from fixed income and other investments to be about $2,225 million [FY 2025]” — CFO .
- “We currently estimate net exposure relating to the California wildfires in the range of $40 million to $70 million” — Management .
Q&A Highlights
- Net vs gross written premium growth: Higher net growth driven by mix in Commercial/Specialty and favorable prior-year reinsurance treaty adjustments in International .
- 2025 fixed-income guidance: Despite favorable long rates, lower short-term rates temper “other investments”; expect ~2% YoY increase vs 2024 .
- International FX variance: U.S. dollar vs GBP caused ~$15M pretax FX loss; Lloyd’s assets largely USD hedge through OCI .
- Reinsurance renewals: Most third-party treaties oversubscribed with favorable terms and ceding economics, supporting underwriting stability .
- Legacy liabilities: A&EP LPT accounting creates timing differences; deferred gain of ~$425M to be amortized over time .
Estimates Context
- We attempted to retrieve S&P Global consensus estimates for Q4 2024 EPS and revenue; data was unavailable in this session due to provider limits. As a result, we cannot assess beat/miss vs Street for EPS or revenue at this time.
- Actuals for Q4 2024: Revenue $3.689B, Core EPS $1.25, Net EPS $0.07 (includes $290M after-tax pension settlement) .
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Underlying profitability remains robust: record underlying underwriting gain and sub-92% underlying CR; Commercial is driving the quality of earnings despite casualty inflation .
- Specialty margin pressure is the key risk to monitor; management liability rate discipline remains necessary to stabilize loss ratio trajectory .
- Investment income provides a durable tailwind; 2025 fixed-income guide suggests stability/upside even with lower short rates—supports core ROE ~10% context .
- Expense ratio structurally improved (30.0% in Q4) with 2025 run-rate ~30.5%; operating leverage from NEP growth is a persistent positive .
- Capital return: dividend increase and $2.00 special dividend are near-term catalysts; AM Best outlook revision to Positive adds a credibility premium .
- Watch cats and wildfire exposure ($40–$70M), FX in International, and legacy charges (A&EP LPT, mass tort) as potential sources of earnings volatility .
- Near-term trading implications: dividend actions and strong Commercial margins are supportive; sensitivity to Specialty pricing trends and catastrophe headlines could introduce volatility around prints .