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CONDUENT Inc (CNDT)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q4 revenue was $800M and Adjusted Revenue was $800M; Adjusted EBITDA was $32M with a 4.0% margin, finishing on the high end of expectations. Quarterly Adjusted Revenue and Adjusted EBITDA increased for the past three quarters, while GAAP diluted EPS was $(0.09) and Adjusted diluted EPS was $(0.15) .
- FY 2025 guidance: Adjusted Revenue $3.10B–$3.25B, Adjusted EBITDA margin 4.5%–5.5%, and Adjusted Free Cash Flow $0M–$40M; management targets ~8% exit EBITDA margin with revenue $3.20B–$3.30B, and interest expense ~$38M at exit rates .
- Sales KPIs were constructive: New Business ACV $137M in Q4 and Net ARR Activity (TTM) $92M; pipeline strength and improved retention underpin outlook momentum .
- Balance sheet de-risking remains a catalyst: net adjusted leverage ratio 1.6x, total GAAP debt down to $639M, cash $377M; the $75M buyback program completed (52M shares in FY24) .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Sequential improvement and margins at the high end: “Quarterly Adjusted Revenue improved sequentially for the past three quarters and Adjusted EBITDA also increased over the past three quarters” (CEO) .
- Portfolio actions strengthened balance sheet and share count: FY24 divestitures generated ~$780M after-tax proceeds; prepaid $639M term loans; repurchased 52M shares, including ~38M from Icahn affiliates .
- AI execution driving operational outcomes: CEO cited live GenAI use cases reducing fraud (account takeover early warning), accelerating document automation for healthcare, and Tier-1 HR portal support deflecting human intervention .
What Went Wrong
- Top-line and profit contraction YoY: Q4 revenue declined 16.1% YoY to $800M and Adjusted EBITDA fell 52.9% YoY to $32M; Adjusted EBITDA margin compressed 400 bps to 4.0% .
- Government segment headwinds weighed: FY24 Government Adjusted Revenue down ~10% and Adjusted EBITDA down ~35% YoY, driven by a healthcare contract termination, lower SNAP volumes, and pricing adjustments (lapping by Q2’25) .
- Free cash flow still negative for the year: FY24 Operating Cash Flow $(50)M and Adjusted Free Cash Flow $(59)M; Q4 improved to Adjusted FCF $62M but FY remained negative .
Financial Results
Segment breakdown (FY 2024):
Key KPIs and cash metrics:
Notes: Total GAAP debt includes current and long-term debt; cash row shows reported cash and, separately, cash plus restricted cash .
Guidance Changes
FY 2024 context: The company had guided Adjusted Revenue $3.185–$3.215B and Adjusted EBITDA margin 3.75%–4.0% in Q3; FY 2024 actuals were Adjusted Revenue $3.176B and margin 3.9% .
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- “We said 2024 would be a trough, and it was… Q4 adjusted revenue improved sequentially again, and both Q4 and year-end adjusted EBITDA margins finished on the high end of expectations” (CEO) .
- “We remain bullish on achieving expectations in 2025… opportunities for a further rationalized portfolio” (CEO) .
- “In 2025, we expect adjusted EBITDA margin to be in the range of 4.5% to 5.5% with an exit rate of around 8%” (CFO) .
- “We continue to leverage GenAI across our portfolio… for fraud… document automation… human capital portals” (CEO) .
Q&A Highlights
- AI monetization/use cases: Early warning fraud detection in payments; healthcare document automation through OCR + GenAI; HR portal Tier-1 support deflection; CX language modulation to expand offshore delivery .
- Margin trajectory drivers: >100 bps uplift primarily from stranded cost removal post-divestitures and ongoing operational efficiencies; pricing/mix levers and natural fall-through with growth .
- Capital allocation: Debt levels now “comfortable”; remaining divestiture proceeds to arrive in April 2025; balanced approach among debt reduction and potential repurchases as EBITDA recovers .
- Sales pipeline/ARR: Expect better ACV year in 2025; add-on revenue books in-year; churn trending down supports positive Net ARR .
- Government outlook clarification: Revenue headwinds from discrete items lap by Q2’25; stability thereafter; FY25 down due to timing, with growth expected as exiting 2025 into 2026 .
Estimates Context
- S&P Global consensus (EPS, revenue, EBITDA) for Q4 2024 could not be retrieved due to SPGI request-limit errors; therefore, beat/miss vs Street cannot be determined from our data set at this time [SPGI error in tool]. Values would be retrieved from S&P Global when accessible.
- Given the absence of consensus data in this report, any estimate-driven comparisons are intentionally omitted to avoid unsupported inferences.
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Sequential operating improvement with Q4 margin at the high end of expectations and three consecutive quarters of Adjusted Revenue and Adjusted EBITDA increases provides near-term confidence into FY25 .
- FY25 guide implies stabilization with modest growth (Commercial up ~2%, Transportation up ~1%) and Government headwinds lapping mid-year; monitor conversion of pipeline and retention continuation .
- Margin story is credible: stranded cost removal, offshoring, pricing/mix and efficiency initiatives underpin 4.5%–5.5% FY25 margin and ~8% exit target; this is the core multi-quarter re-rating lever .
- Balance sheet de-risking continues to support equity value: net leverage ~1.6x, long-dated maturities, optionality from divestitures and buybacks completed; liquidity robust with large undrawn revolver .
- AI initiatives are moving from pilots to product (Conni) with tangible outcomes in fraud reduction, automation, and customer experience, creating incremental revenue opportunities and cost efficiencies .
- Watch risks: Government program pricing/volumes, execution on large implementations, and any Direct Express contract developments that could affect segment mix/margins (timelines suggest long transition if changes occur) .
- Near-term trading lens: positive narrative catalysts include further portfolio rationalization, capex discipline (~$80M), and Q1 sales momentum; absence of Street consensus in this report limits immediate beat/miss calls, but internal guide and sequential trends are constructive .