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CONDUENT Inc (CNDT)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q4 revenue was $800M and Adjusted Revenue was $800M; Adjusted EBITDA was $32M with a 4.0% margin, finishing on the high end of expectations. Quarterly Adjusted Revenue and Adjusted EBITDA increased for the past three quarters, while GAAP diluted EPS was $(0.09) and Adjusted diluted EPS was $(0.15) .
  • FY 2025 guidance: Adjusted Revenue $3.10B–$3.25B, Adjusted EBITDA margin 4.5%–5.5%, and Adjusted Free Cash Flow $0M–$40M; management targets ~8% exit EBITDA margin with revenue $3.20B–$3.30B, and interest expense ~$38M at exit rates .
  • Sales KPIs were constructive: New Business ACV $137M in Q4 and Net ARR Activity (TTM) $92M; pipeline strength and improved retention underpin outlook momentum .
  • Balance sheet de-risking remains a catalyst: net adjusted leverage ratio 1.6x, total GAAP debt down to $639M, cash $377M; the $75M buyback program completed (52M shares in FY24) .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Sequential improvement and margins at the high end: “Quarterly Adjusted Revenue improved sequentially for the past three quarters and Adjusted EBITDA also increased over the past three quarters” (CEO) .
  • Portfolio actions strengthened balance sheet and share count: FY24 divestitures generated ~$780M after-tax proceeds; prepaid $639M term loans; repurchased 52M shares, including ~38M from Icahn affiliates .
  • AI execution driving operational outcomes: CEO cited live GenAI use cases reducing fraud (account takeover early warning), accelerating document automation for healthcare, and Tier-1 HR portal support deflecting human intervention .

What Went Wrong

  • Top-line and profit contraction YoY: Q4 revenue declined 16.1% YoY to $800M and Adjusted EBITDA fell 52.9% YoY to $32M; Adjusted EBITDA margin compressed 400 bps to 4.0% .
  • Government segment headwinds weighed: FY24 Government Adjusted Revenue down ~10% and Adjusted EBITDA down ~35% YoY, driven by a healthcare contract termination, lower SNAP volumes, and pricing adjustments (lapping by Q2’25) .
  • Free cash flow still negative for the year: FY24 Operating Cash Flow $(50)M and Adjusted Free Cash Flow $(59)M; Q4 improved to Adjusted FCF $62M but FY remained negative .

Financial Results

MetricQ4 2023Q3 2024Q4 2024
Revenue ($USD Millions)$953 $807 $800
Adjusted Revenue ($USD Millions)$851 $781 $800
Adjusted EBITDA ($USD Millions)$68 $32 $32
Adjusted EBITDA Margin (%)8.0% 4.1% 4.0%
GAAP Diluted EPS ($)$0.02 $0.72 $(0.09)
Adjusted Diluted EPS ($)$0.03 $(0.14) $(0.15)

Segment breakdown (FY 2024):

SegmentAdjusted Revenue ($USD Millions)Adjusted EBITDA ($USD Millions)
Commercial$1,606 $169
Government$984 $210
Transportation$586 $0
Unallocated Costs$(255)

Key KPIs and cash metrics:

KPI / MetricQ2 2024Q3 2024Q4 2024
New Business ACV ($USD Millions)$142 $111 $137
Net ARR Activity (TTM, $USD Millions)$(49) $46 $92
Adjusted Free Cash Flow ($USD Millions)$(55) $(6) $62
Cash and Cash Equivalents ($USD Millions)$404 $366 (cash) / $377 incl. restricted cash
Total GAAP Debt ($USD Millions)$639
Net Adjusted Leverage Ratio (x)1.4x 1.6x

Notes: Total GAAP debt includes current and long-term debt; cash row shows reported cash and, separately, cash plus restricted cash .

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
Adjusted Revenue ($USD Billions)FY 2025N/A$3.10–$3.25 New
Adjusted EBITDA Margin (%)FY 2025N/A4.5%–5.5% New
Adjusted Free Cash Flow ($USD Millions)FY 2025N/A$0–$40 New
Capex ($USD Millions)FY 2025N/A~$80 New
Restructuring ($USD Millions)FY 2025N/A~$25 New
Segment growth (midpoint)FY 2025N/ACommercial ~+2%, Government ~−4%, Transportation ~+1% New
Exit-rate targets2025 ExitN/ARev $3.20–$3.30B; EBITDA margin ~8%; Interest expense ~$38M; Capex ~$80M; Adj FCF $60–$80M New

FY 2024 context: The company had guided Adjusted Revenue $3.185–$3.215B and Adjusted EBITDA margin 3.75%–4.0% in Q3; FY 2024 actuals were Adjusted Revenue $3.176B and margin 3.9% .

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicQ2 2024 (Previous Mentions)Q3 2024 (Previous Mentions)Q4 2024 (Current Period)Trend
AI/technology initiativesMicrosoft Azure OpenAI pilots in fraud detection; document automation; cyber-response concepts AI augments complex CX; portfolio ~500 patents; tech-led offerings GenAI “Conni” launched; live revenue/expense use cases across payments fraud, healthcare docs, HR portal Expanding deployments
Portfolio rationalizationBenefitWallet, Curbside/Public Safety sales; Casualty Claims sale announced; debt paydown; share repurchase Casualty Claims sale closed; continued opportunistic dispositions “Further portfolio rationalization considerations underway” (CEO update) Continuing
Government segmentThree discrete headwinds (contract termination, SNAP volumes, pricing); lapping by mid-2025 Ongoing headwinds; margin impact; stability expected post-lap Guidance embeds Government down ~4% in 2025; stability building; growth beyond 2025 Easing into H2’25
TransportationAustralia transit ramp offsetting tolling scope/price reset; margin reset Breakeven EBITDA; operational performance improving Expected to grow in 2025; project progress cited Stabilizing/uptrend
Offshoring/efficiencyCapacity investments; cost programs >90% actioned Added ~2,500 offshore seats; margins accretive Cost programs and stranded cost removal driving >100 bps margin uplift in 2025 Positive
Debt/leverage/share countPrepaid $300M; repurchased 43.3M shares including Icahn block Paid down Term Loans; buybacks; leverage to ~1.5x then ~1x exit Net leverage 1.6x; $539M RCF availability; $377M cash Improved balance sheet
Macro/policyStable macro assumption; election impact limited on core programs Policy changes viewed as limited near term Stable macro embedded; public-sector demand oriented to efficiency/offload Stable

Management Commentary

  • “We said 2024 would be a trough, and it was… Q4 adjusted revenue improved sequentially again, and both Q4 and year-end adjusted EBITDA margins finished on the high end of expectations” (CEO) .
  • “We remain bullish on achieving expectations in 2025… opportunities for a further rationalized portfolio” (CEO) .
  • “In 2025, we expect adjusted EBITDA margin to be in the range of 4.5% to 5.5% with an exit rate of around 8%” (CFO) .
  • “We continue to leverage GenAI across our portfolio… for fraud… document automation… human capital portals” (CEO) .

Q&A Highlights

  • AI monetization/use cases: Early warning fraud detection in payments; healthcare document automation through OCR + GenAI; HR portal Tier-1 support deflection; CX language modulation to expand offshore delivery .
  • Margin trajectory drivers: >100 bps uplift primarily from stranded cost removal post-divestitures and ongoing operational efficiencies; pricing/mix levers and natural fall-through with growth .
  • Capital allocation: Debt levels now “comfortable”; remaining divestiture proceeds to arrive in April 2025; balanced approach among debt reduction and potential repurchases as EBITDA recovers .
  • Sales pipeline/ARR: Expect better ACV year in 2025; add-on revenue books in-year; churn trending down supports positive Net ARR .
  • Government outlook clarification: Revenue headwinds from discrete items lap by Q2’25; stability thereafter; FY25 down due to timing, with growth expected as exiting 2025 into 2026 .

Estimates Context

  • S&P Global consensus (EPS, revenue, EBITDA) for Q4 2024 could not be retrieved due to SPGI request-limit errors; therefore, beat/miss vs Street cannot be determined from our data set at this time [SPGI error in tool]. Values would be retrieved from S&P Global when accessible.
  • Given the absence of consensus data in this report, any estimate-driven comparisons are intentionally omitted to avoid unsupported inferences.

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Sequential operating improvement with Q4 margin at the high end of expectations and three consecutive quarters of Adjusted Revenue and Adjusted EBITDA increases provides near-term confidence into FY25 .
  • FY25 guide implies stabilization with modest growth (Commercial up ~2%, Transportation up ~1%) and Government headwinds lapping mid-year; monitor conversion of pipeline and retention continuation .
  • Margin story is credible: stranded cost removal, offshoring, pricing/mix and efficiency initiatives underpin 4.5%–5.5% FY25 margin and ~8% exit target; this is the core multi-quarter re-rating lever .
  • Balance sheet de-risking continues to support equity value: net leverage ~1.6x, long-dated maturities, optionality from divestitures and buybacks completed; liquidity robust with large undrawn revolver .
  • AI initiatives are moving from pilots to product (Conni) with tangible outcomes in fraud reduction, automation, and customer experience, creating incremental revenue opportunities and cost efficiencies .
  • Watch risks: Government program pricing/volumes, execution on large implementations, and any Direct Express contract developments that could affect segment mix/margins (timelines suggest long transition if changes occur) .
  • Near-term trading lens: positive narrative catalysts include further portfolio rationalization, capex discipline (~$80M), and Q1 sales momentum; absence of Street consensus in this report limits immediate beat/miss calls, but internal guide and sequential trends are constructive .