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Compass Diversified - Q2 2023

August 2, 2023

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Operator (participant)

Good afternoon, Welcome to Compass Diversified's First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute. If you would like to ask a question at the end of the prepared remarks, please press the star key, then the one on your touchtone phone. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Cody Slach of Gateway Group for introductions and the reading of the Safe Harbor statement. Please go ahead, sir.

Cody Slach (Senior Managing Director)

Thank you. Welcome to Compass Diversified's First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. Representing the company today are Elias Sabo, CODI's CEO, Ryan Faulkingham, CODI's CFO, and Pat Massarello, COO of Compass Group Management. Before we begin, I would like to point out that the Q1 2023 press release, including the financial tables and non-GAAP financial measure reconciliations for adjusted EBITDA, adjusted earnings, and pro forma net sales, are available at the investor relations section on the company's website at compassdiversified.com. The company also filed its Form 10-Q with the SEC today after the market closed, which includes reconciliations of certain non-GAAP financial measures discussed on this call, and is also available at the investor relations section of the company's website. Please note that references to EBITDA in the following discussions refer to adjusted EBITDA as reconciled the net income or loss from continuing operations in the company's financial filings.

The company does not provide a reconciliation of its full year expected 2023 adjusted earnings or adjusted EBITDA because certain significant reconciling information is not available without unreasonable efforts. Throughout this call, we will refer to Compass Diversified as CODI or the company. Allow me to read the following Safe Harbor statement. During this call, we may make certain forward-looking statements, including statements with regard to the future performance of CODI and its subsidiaries, the impact and expected timing of acquisitions, and future operational plans such as ESG initiatives. Words such as believes, expects, anticipates, plans, projects, and future or similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to the inherent uncertainties in predicting future results and conditions.

Certain factors could cause actual results to differ to differ on a material basis from those projected in these forward-looking statements. Some of these factors are enumerated in the risk factor discussion in the Form 10-K as filed with the SEC for the year ended December 31st, 2022, as well as in other SEC filings. In particular, the domestic and global economic environment, supply chain, labor disruptions, inflation, and rising interest rates all may have a significant impact on CODI and our subsidiary companies. Except as required by law, CODI undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Elias Sabo.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Good afternoon, everyone, thanks for joining us today. We are pleased to report financial results that significantly exceeded our expectations. The strength and durability of our diversified group of subsidiaries was evidenced again in the first quarter as we delivered growth in both revenue and consolidated subsidiary adjusted EBITDA on a pro forma basis. This is an extraordinary accomplishment amidst a backdrop of broad and unique macroeconomic challenges, and as a result, we are raising our full-year outlook for both subsidiary adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings. I think the obvious question is: How are we able to achieve this? Well, it's no different than what we've said in the past, but perhaps this quarter it's more apparent.

Our strategy of assembling a highly diversified group of companies that reach a broad set of end markets, reach a wide set of consumer demographics, and have a strong underlying core growth rate, drove the results we reported today. This is highly intentional and can be traced back to 2018, when we made a concerted strategic shift to transform our business towards higher quality, higher growth assets. I'd like to recognize our amazing group of companies and colleagues for allowing us to deliver these strong results today. Despite this, the headwinds we overcame in Q1 are still very much out there and cloud our near-term outlook. Similar to our remarks on our fourth quarter call, some of our branded consumer subsidiaries with exposure to wholesale continue to experience significant inventory destocking headwinds.

As a reminder, in the first half of 2022, we benefited from extremely high demand from customers who needed our product to help manage their own supply chain issues. With the pandemic winding down and some retailers reckoning with the fact that they overordered, it has created a whipsaw effect until inventory is right-sized. Until this happens, our growth in these businesses will be constrained. Fortunately, it is a unique event that we expect to start correcting in the second half of the year. Take BOA, for example. This subsidiary is executing at an extremely high level and continues to take market share. Our products are on some of the strongest selling SKUs for our brand partners, and we continue to accelerate the number of new SKUs we are gaining placement on.

The current rate of destocking is so high that it's actually outpacing the market share gains we are experiencing from product sell-through and SKU count growth. This is obviously a unique phenomenon, and once we get beyond this current inventory destocking cycle, we would expect a significant snapback in revenue growth and profitability. We are also seeing the same broad trends at PrimaLoft, given its similar position in the supply chain. Taking together with BOA, these represent two of our strongest and fastest-growing businesses. They represent our businesses with some of the best value propositions, competitive differentiation, margins, and free cash flow generation. The fact that they're getting pulled down by an unusual phenomenon, and we are still reporting consolidated growth, ties back to the incredible performance our diversified business model facilitates. Outside of these two subsidiaries, we delivered an astounding 15% organic growth in adjusted EBITDA.

The majority of our remaining subsidiaries are performing extremely well. This gives us confidence that once the inventory destocking headwinds subside, with BOA and PrimaLoft reverting back to normalized growth rates, that our overall business will again show strong growth. Before turning the call over to Pat, I'd like to summarize our performance and outlook. While we had an outstanding first quarter that was stronger than anticipated, we expect the negative effects of inventory destocking and other market headwinds to suppress earnings in Q2. End demand for the majority of our goods and services remains strong. However, we experienced some moderation in end market sales as the quarter progressed, and April has continued that trend. Notwithstanding a modest slowing, the most affluent consumer continues to spend, as evidenced by the incredible performance at Lugano.

As you are aware, we sell the majority of our goods at our consumer businesses to the more affluent consumer, which positions us well during this time of economic uncertainty. Notwithstanding the headwinds we expect to encounter in Q2, the strength of our subsidiaries gives us confidence we will deliver growth in the second half of 2023, leading to growth for the full year. With that, I will now turn the call over to Pat.

Pat Massarello (COO)

Thanks, Elias. Throughout this presentation, when we discuss pro forma results, it will be as if we own PrimaLoft from January 1st, 2022. On a combined basis, revenue and EBITDA grew slightly and exceeded our expectations. As Elias discussed, the widely reported supply chain disruptions in 2021 and 2022 created elevated inventory levels in multiple areas and, in the quarter, led to order patterns that often differed materially from end customer demand. Despite this challenging backdrop, our management teams and employees continued to perform with agility and skill. Now, on to our subsidiary results. I'll begin with our niche industrial businesses. For the first quarter of 2023, revenues were approximately flat, and adjusted EBITDA increased by 19% vs the first quarter of 2022.

Each of our niche Industrial busineses expanded margins in the quarter, and in aggregate, adjusted EBITDA margins expanded by over 250 basis points. In the first quarter, Arnold showed solid growth in revenue and EBITDA, and bookings once again exceeded shipments. Margins expanded partially due to more positive sales mix, as the company continues to provide more technologically advanced solutions to their customers. Altor's revenue declined slightly in the quarter as some of its more cyclical end markets faced headwinds. Adjusted EBITDA increased by almost 11%, however, as raw material prices declined and management continued to work to gain efficiencies. As a reminder, Terry Moody, Altor's CEO, led a planned management transition a bit less than a year ago, and we are very pleased by the early progress made by him and his team.

At Sterno, demand for catering products continued to revert back to pre-pandemic levels, driving growth in the company's food service segment. Sterno's scented wax and oil business continued its solid performance as well. Costs at the combined business were well managed in the quarter. Turning to our Consumer businesses. For the first quarter of 2023, revenues increased by 2% and adjusted EBITDA declined by 5% as excess inventory in the supply chains at BOA, PrimaLoft, and Velocity Outdoor offset strong growth at Lugano Diamonds, Marucci, and 5.11. Though BOA showed a decline in EBITDA vs a record Q1 2022, we remain very confident in the company's market share, SKU counts, and product positioning. Put simply, in many segments, our sell-in was less than our sell-through.

As we have discussed, we believe this trend will continue in the second quarter before rebounding in the back half of the calendar year. The team there continues to manage effectively, and we continue to expect full year 2023 EBITDA performance above 2021 levels. We were encouraged recently by the pre-launch of Alpine Boots, incorporating BOA's Technology, as well as the company's partnership with Under Armour on their new SlipSpeed line of training shoes. Marucci had an exceptional quarter, as revenue grew by 12% and EBITDA grew by over 25% when compared to the strong Q1 2022. The company benefited from exceptional sell-throughs of its CATX line of bats, introduced last year, and experienced strong growth in non-bat categories, including fielding gloves, bags, and helmets, all showing significant growth in the quarter.

Also, significant air freight investments incurred in Q1 2022 to maintain and grow shelf space did not recur in Q1 2023, and the company operated efficiently. Lugano once again had a strong quarter as revenues and adjusted EBITDA grew by 36% and 38% respectively. The company saw strong growth, growth in multiple salons, including Newport Beach, Palm Beach, and its newly opened Houston salon. Subsequent to quarter end, Lugano officially opened its Washington, D.C. salon, along with its exclusive Privé membership club in Newport Beach. The company is currently building out its Greenwich, Connecticut location, with a target completion date in the third quarter of this year. Lugano is also targeting a second flagship location, similar to the company's Newport Beach salon, and potentially its first international salon in early 2024.

Similar to Lugano, 5.11 had a strong first quarter, with revenue and adjusted EBITDA growing by 20% and 22%, respectively. Despite broad retail pressures in the U.S., the company once again benefited from strength in its diverse sales channels and end markets as professional sales, both domestically and internationally, led its growth. Additionally, the team at 5.11 did an excellent job in the quarter, operating effectively and efficiently, and were able to gain leverage as adjusted EBITDA growth outpaced revenue growth. PrimaLoft showed a slight decline in both revenue and EBITDA as customers continued to pull down their target inventory levels.

While financial performance to date has not fully met our expectations at the time of acquisition, we believe the company is taking market share, and given where it sits in the supply chain and the impact of inventory rebalancing, we believe it is outperforming its competitors. The company's project pipeline for 2024 is as broad as ever, and we remain bullish about PrimaLoft's financial prospects following inventory stabilization in the supply chain. Touching briefly on Velocity. Point-of-sale activity has slowed following strong performance during and immediately post-pandemic. In addition, retail partners in both of the company segments have sought to further reduce inventory levels. Though it is our belief that on a sequential basis, quarterly performance will improve as we move through the year, we continue to examine additional options to right-size parts of Velocity's cost structure to better reflect current demand patterns.

As a whole, we were very pleased with the performance of our businesses in the first quarter. I will now turn the call over to Ryan for his comments on our financial results.

Ryan Faulkingham (CFO)

Thank you, Pat. Moving to our consolidated financial results for the quarter ended March 31st, 2023, I will limit my comments largely to the overall results for CODI, since the individual subsidiary results are detailed in our Form 10-Q that was filed with the SEC earlier today. As a reminder, our sale of Advanced Circuits occurred in the first quarter of 2023, and therefore was reclassified to discontinued operations in our first quarter 10-Q. Now to our quarterly consolidated results. On a consolidated basis, revenue for the quarter ended March 31st, 2023, was $542.2 million, up 6% compared to $510.5 million for the prior year period. This year-over-year increase primarily reflects our acquisition of PrimaLoft during the third quarter of 2022.

Consolidated net income for the first quarter was $109.6 million, compared to net income of $29.7 million in the prior year. The increase was primarily due to the $98 million gain on the sale of Advanced Circuits in the first quarter, offset by an increase in interest expense as a result of financing the PrimaLoft acquisition and rising interest rates. Adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter was $91.9 million, up 11% compared to $83.2 million in the first quarter of last year. The increase was due to the benefit of the PrimaLoft acquisition. Adjusted earnings for the first quarter was above our expectations at $33.2 million, down from $36 million in the prior year quarter. The decline was primarily a result of higher interest expense. Now, on to our financial outlook.

As a result of the strong performance in the first quarter relative to our expectations, we are increasing our adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings estimates. For the full year 2023, we expect consolidated subsidiary adjusted EBITDA to range between $430 million and $460 million, an increase of $10 million at the bottom end of our initial range. For the full year 2023, we expect adjusted earnings to range between $110 million and $135 million, an increase of $5 million at the bottom end of our initial range. As Elias and Pat have covered, this outlook expects a challenging second quarter, given the headwinds discussed, and assumes a mid-single-digit % decline in adjusted EBITDA sequentially, and then a re-acceleration in the second half of the year. Turning to our balance sheet.

As of March 31, 2023, we had approximately $53.7 million in cash, approximately $590 million available on our revolver, and our leverage was 3.87x. We have substantial liquidity, as previously communicated, we have the ability to upsize our revolver capacity by an additional $250 million. During the quarter, we used the net proceeds from the sale of Advanced Circuits to repay our revolver balance, therefore, reducing our leverage levels. In addition, subsequent to quarter end, we used approximately $20 million to fund Marucci's add-on acquisition of Baum Bat. With our liquidity and capital, we stand ready and able to provide our subsidiaries with the financial support they need, invest in subsidiary growth opportunities, and act on compelling acquisition opportunities as they present themselves. Turning now to cash flow provided by operations.

During the first quarter of 2023, we received $15.5 million of cash flow from operations, primarily a result of strong operating performance. We used $31.5 million in working capital during the first quarter of 2023, a substantial decrease from $95.7 million in the prior year quarter, when we needed to support many of our businesses' inventory levels as a result of supply chain disruptions. Lugano will continue to require working capital investments. However, we expect to produce strong consolidated cash conversion in 2023 for our remaining subsidiaries in total. Also of note, during the quarter, the manager waived 50% of the management fee owed by the company in respect to PrimaLoft. Finally, turning to CapEx.

During the first quarter of 2023, we incurred $16.1 million of capital expenditures at our existing subsidiaries, compared to $10.4 million in the prior year period. The increase was primarily a result of the timing of retail build-outs at Lugano and 5.11 to support their continued growth. For the full year of 2023, we anticipate total CapEx spend of between $60 million and $70 million. We continue to see strong returns on invested capital at several, several of our growth subsidiaries and believe they will have short payback periods. The 2023 capital expenditure spend will primarily be at Lugano for new retail salons and at 5.11 as we continue to increase its retail store count from its current 118 stores. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Elias.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Thank you, Ryan. I'd like to close by briefly providing an update on the M&A market and our strategic initiatives. In terms of M&A, not much has changed since we last spoke in March. Deal activity remains suppressed well below historic levels, and we continue to believe activity in the second half of 2023 will improve as economic headwinds moderate. On the ESG front, we continue to advance our key initiatives and execute our strategy. During the quarter, we had a variety of achievements throughout our organization that I would like to highlight. Reflective of CODI's commitment to creating a positive impact for people and planet, we are thrilled to be awarded the Silver Badge from Catalyst 2030, an organization that partners with corporations to achieve the 2030 sustainable development goals outlined by the United Nations.

We were awarded the Silver Badge in recognition of our work with social enterprises and the way we've actively used our purchasing power to partner with organizations with clearly defined social goals. Looking at our companies, last month, BOA released their annual Sustainability and Social Responsibility Impact Report, which outlines their future goals to significantly reduce their carbon footprint and create a more inclusive environment with equitable opportunities. Arnold Magnetic Technologies announced its partnership with Cyclic Materials, a pioneer in developing more sustainable domestic supply chains for rare earth elements. Arnold and Cyclic will work together to develop a rare earth recycling program, creating an unprecedented circular supply chain for rare earth materials. I am proud of the progress Cody and our subsidiaries have made against our ESG framework. We look forward to continuing on this path.

In conclusion, we're proud of our first quarter results, which are a testament to the successful execution of our strategy. The fact that we were able to generate organic growth in revenue and EBITDA amongst such a challenging operating environment speaks volumes to the quality of CODI's subsidiaries, the benefit of diversification amongst industries, and the accelerated pace of our core growth rate. With that, operator, please open up the lines for Q&A.

Operator (participant)

At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Larry Solow from CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Thanks. Good, good evening or good afternoon, guys. I guess, just first, I guess, question observation. It feels like the, the year started off really strong, better than expected. Just trying to parse out the sort of the, the sequential, little bit of a drop, mid-single digits, I guess, millions or percentage. Is it some acceleration inventory? I guess, a combination of more inventory drawdowns or more than you originally expected or longer than you originally expected into Q2, and some sort of a little bit of end market slowdown? On the end market slowdown, are there particular businesses that are. Because it feels like most of the businesses, the, the larger ones, are still doing strong outside inventory drawdown.

Just trying to get a little more color on, you know, where you're seeing a little bit of some actual end market slowdown.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Yeah. Hi, Larry, it's Elias, thank you for the question.

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Hello.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

You know, Q1 was a really good quarter for us. I think, you know, we sat here a couple of months ago when we talked about, you know, the first quarter on our fourth quarter earnings call. You know, we had guided that. We thought we might be down, you know, kind of high single digits to low double digits. You know, obviously, we performed significantly better than that, really almost across the board. You know, the business, you know, BOA obviously had, as you see, some of the weakness that we expected from, you know, kind of this inventory destocking, which, you know, is quite severe. I would say, you know, that's continuing, but in general, you know, our business has performed really well.

Coming into Q2, I think we're just taking a more conservative, you know, and cautious outlook yet again in our guidance. You know, it's weighing on us what we're hearing in terms of the macro environment out there. You know, we're starting to see some of the data really weakening. JOLTS came out, you know, down, you know, a couple-- I think it's at two-year lows right now on, you know, kind of job openings. You know, there's weakness in the regional banking sector. You know, there's a bank down 40+% in the aftermarket right now.

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Yeah.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

you know, and there's, you know, kind of just these continuing, you know, kind of rolling issues. you know, so we want to be more cautious, Larry, I would say, you know, principally what you're hearing in terms of our you know, our outlook in Q2 is more us just being cautious and conservative. there's nothing that I would say is, you know, kind of materially slower. There may be, you know, a little bit of slowdown, for example, within the 5.11 DTC business, that we're seeing, but it's not so material that we would, you know, get really nervous right now. I would say our industrial portfolio, which was seeing incredible bookings growth, you know, kind of in the first quarter, has now slowed to seeing pretty good bookings growth.

You know, it's-- I, I would say there are some, you know, kind of evidence of a slight slowdown in new orders that are coming in, but on the other side, we're seeing some of the inflationary pressures come off, margins improve. You know, I think you probably saw we had a massive improvement in margins within our industrial portfolio. You know, we would expect that con-- to continue. You know, I would say that a lot of what we're forecasting here in the second quarter continues to be, you know, just an uneasiness that we all have about the macro headlines. There's nothing right now in the business that I would say, you know, that points us to, you know, expect materially weaker results as we, you know, move forward.

With respect to some of these inventory destocking headwinds, I think they're as we anticipated. We anticipated that they were gonna go, you know, at least through the second quarter. I think that seems to be on schedule right now. You know, there is some, you know, I would say, green shoots that we see here and there, where we get a good bookings week that comes along. That's probably a little bit of an improvement of where we are, and we need to start seeing that in order to then get consistently good booking weeks, you know, at BOA and PrimaLoft, which is where most of the, the destocking issues are hitting the hardest.

I think, you know, in general, that feels to be on where we are, and as we sit today, Larry, we have a better, you know, kind of outlook and a higher, you know, kind of level of confidence in being able to, you know, achieve the annual numbers that we set out. You know, we, we are not immune to some of the headlines that we're all hearing right now, and we'd rather just be a bit conservative.

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

You know, that, that, that's fair. I was gonna ask you a question about Lugano, but maybe just on 5.11. I know that, you know, that obviously, the business has did remarkably well last couple of years, well, you know, through COVID, and then, whereas a lot of other apparel businesses last, you know, few quarters have really struggled, they have continued to grow. Maybe you could just give us a. You mentioned DTC, which obviously has been the big growth driver. Is that still growing just a little bit slower? Maybe give us a little update there and just on new store opening plans for 5.11.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Yeah. I'd say our DTC comps were remained positive in Q1 of this year, and that's sort of all the color we, you know, typically give on...

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Sure.

Pat Massarello (COO)

On comps, Larry. This is Pat, by the way, but I think that's, you know-

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Yeah.

Pat Massarello (COO)

That's a positive sign. A lot of the strength came from our professional business. you know, selling into law enforcement agencies, was a very good business for the company in, you know, in the first quarter. Again, you know, unlike a lot of consumer brands out there, right, this diversified strategy really provides for consistency of earnings at 5.11, and that paid off. As it relates to the new store, we have, you know, call it between 10 and 20 new stores planned to be open this year, a little bit less than last year, but we are continuing to open them because the economics are just, just continue to be very compelling.

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Got you. If I could just slip one more, just on Lugano, just to, you know, obviously, the rapid growth there. I think you guys opened two new salons last year. Is the growth, you know, I, I feel like, is the growth driven by salon openings? Is it, you know, there must be an optimal amount of, you know, too, you can't just open wherever. I'm just trying to, you know, rein in or get a little more color on, you know, growth trajectory, which has been amazing, you know, going forward. I, I feel like it'll slow, but, you know, any, any thoughts on that?

Pat Massarello (COO)

Yeah. The growth is partially driven by salon openings. It's also driven by increases in sort of average order size, which continues to increase materially, right? So those and new customers, and we're adding a lot of new customers, and not all of those come from salons. Some of them may come from our equestrian operations, or they may come from other relationships and other events. So I really can't. It's not like 5.11, where you can point out, you know, 100 next stores times this equals that, right?

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Right.

Pat Massarello (COO)

Like.

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Yeah

Pat Massarello (COO)

It's a much more sort of complex picture there.

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Sure.

Pat Massarello (COO)

I can't give you a formula per se, but short answer is it's coming from everywhere.

Larry Solow (Managing Director)

Got it. No, that's fair enough. Thank, thanks, Pat. I appreciate it.

Pat Massarello (COO)

You got it.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Cris Kennedy from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Cris Kennedy (Research Analyst of Financial Services and Technology)

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Elias, given what you just talked about on the macro side, talk about your confidence in the visibility for the snapback in the second half for BOA and PrimaLoft?

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Yeah, Cris, thanks for the question, and good afternoon. you know, the, I can't give you exact timing, right? you know, sort of Larry was, you know, kinda asking, is it either deeper in terms of inventory, you know, kind of drawdown or, you know, is it going longer? You know, a little bit of that is gonna be hard for us to tell. I think one of the things that impacted, you know, both BOA and PrimaLoft, was really this, you know, kind of, zero-COVID policy out of China, and I know we're beyond that now.

If you just think about how many of our brand partners get a material amount of their sales in the greater China market, and having, you know, kind of a number of months where Chinese consumers were on the sideline, it isn't just the product we sell to China-centric customers that then sell to the China market. You know, it's brand partners globally that are sitting on significant inventory. With zero-COVID being behind us, China reopening, and consumption coming back, you know, I think that's gonna clear inventory and clear the way for us to, you know, be able to snap back. I can't tell you whether it's Q3, Cris, or it's Q4. I think we're getting through this inventory overhang, you know, kind of faster and, you know, on a very accelerated basis. I feel confident in the snapback.

I just don't know when the timing is going to be. You know, we won't... I won't give you specific numbers on how much, but I can tell you, you know, from our analysis, we think there is a dramatically higher amount of sell-through than there is sell-in. You know, at some point, unless inventory goes to zero in the supply chain, which, you know, is obviously not possible, at some point, we have to start to match our sell-through. Just given the delta between sell-in and sell-through right now, that will provide a material jump in revenue and profitability. One, I think that is probably far stronger than what any of us, you know, would be talking about. This isn't consistent with BOA's historical growth rate or PrimaLoft's, both of which have been north of 20% revenue growers over time.

This is, you know, kind of a snapback that could be well in excess of that, given, you know, kind of the differential that exists right now between, you know, kinda sell-in and sell-through. I also would point everyone to the fact that we do measure the amount of additional SKUs that we're going on. There has been no deceleration in the amount of SKU growth that we've had at both BOA and PrimaLoft. So we're picking up massive amounts of share, which just add to the fact that this snapback is gonna be, you know, in our opinion, really violent and in a good way. When it happens, it's gonna drive significant, you know, kind of revenue and earnings growth because it will, you know, at a minimum, start to match what sell-through is. I can't tell you the exact timing.

I wish we had a crystal ball to be able to do it. I think we're largely working through some of the inventory issues. You know, if you go to some of the larger companies, you know, the largest shoe wear company, footwear company in the world said they thought by, you know, the end of their, you know, kind of, second quarter, which ends in May, they would largely be right-sized with inventory. I don't know that that's representative of every footwear company, but I bet you that is representative of where the industry is going. You know, if I had to take a guess, I think, you know, as we get through Q2, we probably start in Q3 getting some, you know, kind of orders to revert back to normal, and then I think Q4 is gonna look very strong for both of those businesses.

Frankly, that's more of, you know, trying to put together a mosaic from, you know, what you're hearing in the marketplace, and it's not based on analytical data that we've got coming in right now. I do think we can all anticipate this snapback is gonna be very strong. I think because this started in the fourth quarter, really with PrimaLoft, we started seeing this in the third quarter of 2022, and BOA, we saw it in the fourth quarter of 2022. We're about ready at the back of this year to start entering some much easier comparisons, and I think as a result of that, it's gonna take some of that pressure on earnings, you know, off.

Even if the snapback isn't until the fourth quarter or even the first quarter, you know, we're just not gonna have these severe headwinds because the comparison gets so much easier. We feel very good that as we get to the second half of the year, the portfolio will show and deliver growth, and that's why we're very confident that we'll get growth for, you know, the whole year. I can't predict, you know, with any exact certainty when this snapback will be at BOA and PrimaLoft, but I think it's gonna be really strong, and we're all gonna feel really good when it happens.

Cris Kennedy (Research Analyst of Financial Services and Technology)

Yeah. Appreciate that. Then just a clarification on PrimaLoft not meeting your initial expectations. Is that primarily related to the inventory issue, or is there something-?

... more going on there. Thanks a lot, guys.

Pat Massarello (COO)

Yeah. This is Pat. Their customer acquisitions have been, you know, at or above our expectations. You know, their sort of new technology rollouts has been at or above our expectations. It's just, again, the existing customers and existing SKUs, the orders and the replan orders have been less than we expected, due to what we perceive and what we're confident in, are inventory issues in the supply chain.

Cris Kennedy (Research Analyst of Financial Services and Technology)

Understood. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from Matt Koranda, from ROTH MKM. Please go ahead.

Mike Zabran (Equity Research Associate of Consumer Team)

Hey, guys, it's Mike Zabran on for Matt. Just starting with Velocity, both top-line growth and margins were under quite a bit of pressure in Q1 from the lower selling. When are we expecting retailers to start stocking up for the summer quarters? What does that mean for overall seasonality throughout the year? In turn, should we expect the typical 3Q seasonality and Velocity to be less aggressive this year, given we're still seeing some caution from key retailers?

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Yeah, there's a lot there, so let me, let me unpack it a little. I'd say we think Q2 will be better than Q1, and Q3 will be better than Q2. Let me start with that sequentially, right? Within that, you know, we do believe we will see more sort of strength in the archery side than in the airgun side, given those dynamics you talked about around hunting and gearing up for hunting, if that makes sense. As Q1 was very weak, I would see Q1 as being a smaller % of the year than normal. Absent that, we don't really have too much clarity.

Mike Zabran (Equity Research Associate of Consumer Team)

Got it. That's helpful. Moving to working capital, specifically on inventory, how are we thinking about inventory about how the inventory balance should move throughout the year, given the different puts and takes from store and salon build-out to 5.11, as well as, you know, further the caution we're seeing from key retailers around restocking?

Ryan Faulkingham (CFO)

Yeah. So, I think what you guys saw is in... Yeah, at least in the cash flow statement, a use of inventory in the first quarter, and that was at really two, two businesses. That was 5.11 and Lugano. Both of that really was to support the growth we saw exiting 2022, but also the first quarter. As we progress through the year, you know, both inventory and working capital, you know, we expect to, you know, come down for a majority of the businesses. The exception being Lugano, right? If we continue to see this type of growth, you know, we will continue to support that business with inventory. Outside of them, though, we should see a, you know, significant cash conversion amongst the other nine subsidiaries as the year progresses.

Mike Zabran (Equity Research Associate of Consumer Team)

Got it. That's helpful. Last one from you guys. Just on the healthcare front, maybe just an update on where we stand in building out a team there. Has their appetite for a potential acquisition within 2023 changed at all? Maybe just speak to the relative size of the pipeline and how we feel about current private market, valuations, specifically in healthcare.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Yeah. Really no major update from where we were, you know, on the last conference call. Team remains the same, led by Kurt Roth, and then, you know, kind of assisted by human capital that we have within the firm, you know, kind of at various levels, and that's how staffing will look until we start to, you know, kind of get a couple-- a company or two acquired, and then we'll start building up that, you know, kind of vertical segment from a human capital standpoint. In terms of desire to do a deal, it's there. We wanna be able to, you know, kinda get some healthcare assets invested in and, you know, kinda in-house. Unfortunately, Mike, the, you know, M&A markets remain really suppressed, and it remains suppressed around, you know, kinda all categories. You know, sellers continue to be very cautious.

I don't think what's happening in the, you know, kind of bank market helps. You know, when you see regional banks going out of business and their costs of capital, you know, kinda investment grade-rated, you know, capital going into junk territory right now, that's, you know, not, you know, kinda conducive to the M&A markets just broadly. You know, we continue to see that, I think, being a, you know, kinda huge weight on, you know, all markets. Now, all that being said, there are a couple of healthcare deals that have come through that have priced. I'd say broadly, the pricing has been, you know, more elevated than one would anticipate, given the massive run-up in capital costs over the course of the last year.

I would say pricing has really been more consistent with, you know, kind of where pricing was in a free money economy of, you know, 21 and, you know, prior to that, than it should be in an economy that has a 5%, you know, federal funds rate right now. I think it's indicative of the fact that there's just a lot of capital out there that is sitting on the sideline. When you think about kind of the private markets, where we are generally competing for these assets against private equity buyers, there was just an enormous amount of capital that has been raised and continued to be raised, you know, up until, you know, kind of the last year, year and a half. Those funds all have relatively short-term time horizons.

It's one of the things that we always point to as being a key differentiator in CODI's business model. Our competitors have to put money to work over a five-year period. You know, we were able to be more patient, and pick and choose when we want to put money to work and not, you know, really suffer from that moral hazard of, you know, you either put it to work or you lose it. That creates an incredible, you know, divergence of interest between, you know, investors in those private equity efforts and the management teams and general partners. Luckily, our business model, you know, really eliminates that and avoids that moral hazard.

Now, if you think there's five-year commitment windows in traditional private equity, you know, we're now a year and a half years into this Fed tightening cycle and the M&A markets being flat on their back, that basically ate up a third of the, you know, kind of time under which PE funds can put their money to work. It's creating, in, in our opinion, that overhang will create really a level of desperation, and we're sort of seeing that when the limited number of assets come to market. Private market pricing, you know, remains elevated. We really can't find price discovery outside of healthcare because really not much is going on.

In the healthcare space, there have been a couple of deals, and I would say, you know, if you're a seller of a healthcare company, now is not a bad time to go to market because that overhang is driving prices. Even though you can't get financing, I think some of the players in the market today are just assuming that financing, they can take out financing a year or two from now when markets become more accommodative, and these assets are being bid up at, you know, kind of prices that, you know, in some cases make you scratch your head. You know, it's not... I, I think it will. This is something we've dealt with, by the way, high pricing for, you know, the better part of the last decade.

It's not something that's unique right now, but I would say pricing continues to remain elevated for the limited number of deals that we see in market.

Mike Zabran (Equity Research Associate of Consumer Team)

Very detailed and helpful. Thanks, Elias. That's all from me, guys.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Your next question comes from Kyle Joseph from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Kyle Joseph (Managing Director)

Hey, yeah, thanks, Elias and Ryan. Just kind of a follow-up there. Obviously, you were focused on healthcare there, but, you know, Cody, you know, at least in COVID, has kind of had a history of zigging when others zag, and you guys did two acquisitions during the pandemic, which have obviously been very, been very fruitful, but it sounds like prices have been stubbornly high. Just thinking about rates, leverage, and market dislocation in terms of, you know, your capital allocation strategy, is now the environment where it's kind of a, you know, a layer on acquisition environment?

You know, it doesn't sound like there's a lot of platform acquisitions out there given the M&A, but just kind of thinking about how you guys are thinking about capital allocation in this, you know, given all the, you know, dislocation in the market.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Yeah. Kyle, I think, you know, one, you're right. We are looking more on add-on acquisitions, and those generally tend to be much smaller. The competitiveness is typically a lot less, and pricing comes in at much better price, at much better levels. Then obviously, you have, you know, kind of either cost saving or revenue synergy opportunities that we look to extract. And, you know, kind of you can look at the most recent acquisition we made of Baum Bat, you know, into Marucci Sports. You know, we think that's going to be a great opportunity to add that brand and a different technology, and there's some real revenue synergies that exist. We couldn't be more thrilled, you know, to acquire a company like that.

I would, you know, anticipate we're gonna see more Baum-type, you know, kind of acquisitions, not from just Marucci, but in terms of add-on acquisitions that have, you know, either good cost saving or synergy opportunities within our portfolio. I think you're also right that given, you know, the dearth of, you know, new platform opportunities that are out there trading, and when there is, you know, kind of one or two, they seem to fetch pricing that doesn't, you know, take into account the new elevated, you know, kind of borrowing costs that we have. I think it's probably a bit more of a stretch to think that we'll do a platform, although sometimes these things can come up, and we can find one and, you know, we think there is great value, and we can move really quickly.

I don't want to rule it out, but I would just say from a probability weighted basis, it's a less, you know, a bit less likely that we're going to find that. When you think about capital allocation, I would say number one priority within our firm is to fund the, you know, kind of, high return opportunities within our portfolio. Lugano, clearly, you know, kind of goes to the top of that list. You see that as we've been building inventory in the company, we've been generating, you know, and generated +30% growth rates in that company. I think there's a lot of runway to continue to invest there and have very high return on invested capital.

5.11 has been another company where, you know, by building out its store network, we've been able to get a very high return on invested capital. That will clearly be priority number one. Priority number two will be to acquire companies, you know, principally add-ons, because I think platforms will be a little bit harder to come by. Then our third capital allocation priority, as you know right now, is the buyback. Although, you know, our goal is to grow and we need capital to grow, so doing a buyback on top of, you know, returning capital through a dividend doesn't really feel like, you know, kind of consistent with our long-term growth plans. We are in a short-term period where these price levels are just, you know, extraordinarily disconnected from the reality of what our businesses are worth.

It makes more sense for us just to continue to buy back our stock and accrete value to our shareholders. You know, I said this on the last conference call, and I'll reiterate it today: If someone is so short-term oriented to want to sell our stock because BOA and PrimaLoft are going through inventory destocking, then we'll happily buy it back for our shareholders who are more long-term oriented, and we'll accrete value. Because there will be a big snapback in both of those businesses, and our growth rate will revert back to its historical averages.

So for us, it's gonna be a sacrifice where we're gonna sacrifice using capital, you know, to potentially either stock on our balance sheet, for a future acquisition or do acquisitions now, because, you know, the best opportunity to accrete value for our shareholders is, you know, through execution of this buyback. So, you know, at some point, I think, you know, maybe the stock will react and come back, and that will become less of an opportunity. In the current environment, with this current reality, that has to be a high capital allocation priority.

Kyle Joseph (Managing Director)

Got it. Very helpful. Thanks for answering my questions.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from Sean-Paul Adams from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Sean-Paul Adams (Senior Equity Research Associate)

Hey, guys. It seems like you pretty much hit everything I had with BOA and PrimaLoft. Basically, if, if I understand you guys correctly, that, you don't really know if this is gonna continue past 2Q. Adjusting the run rate on that might be a little bit difficult. As far as PrimaLoft goes, have you guys seen any interest in any other regions?

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Any other regions?

Sean-Paul Adams (Senior Equity Research Associate)

Yeah, yeah.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

I mean, I mean, we, we sell globally, right? Our brand partners manufacture through contract manufacturers in, you know, in Asia, and then they sell, you know, globally, and you'll see the PrimaLoft brand on a lot of, you know, brand snow gear, you know, outerwear everywhere, right? I think when you say other regions, you know, we do have some projects we're specifically working on in Europe now that could, that could be accretive. Other than that, I'm not sure. You know, we sell globally. We ship primarily to... We work with our manufacturing partners in Asia, who ship, who, you know, then sell to the partners and customers, mostly in Asia, and then those are shipped globally. Does that make sense?

Sean-Paul Adams (Senior Equity Research Associate)

Yeah, yeah. To clarify, I meant that, you know, approximately 83% of the revenue was coming from Asia Pacific, so which is, of course, because of the textile industry, but I didn't know if you guys were getting any interest from, you know, sell directly to-

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Right

Sean-Paul Adams (Senior Equity Research Associate)

... any.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

We can't track exactly where it ends up. Does that make sense? That's where the, the, the buyers are contracted from the brands, you know, and there's kind of a pass-through there. That's actually, you're right, that is where the, the revenue comes from, but that's not where the consumer buys the product, if that makes sense.

Sean-Paul Adams (Senior Equity Research Associate)

Gotcha. That makes perfect, perfect sense. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I will now like to turn the conference back to over Mr. Elias. Please go ahead.

Elias Sabo (CEO)

Thank you, operator. As always, I'd like to thank everyone again for joining us on today's call and for your continued interest in CODI. Thank you for your support.

Operator (participant)

This concludes Diversified's Conference Call. Thank you all, and have a-