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CSG SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL INC (CSGS)·Q1 2025 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • CSG beat Street on revenue and non-GAAP EPS: $299.5M vs $272.8M* and $1.14 vs $1.01*, driven by mix shift to higher-margin SaaS and operating discipline; GAAP EPS was $0.57 as restructuring elevated GAAP opex . Results slightly benefited from a couple million dollars of revenue timing pull-forward, per CFO .
  • Non-GAAP adjusted operating margin expanded 240 bps YoY to 19.0% and adj. EBITDA margin reached 23.7%; management raised FY25 non-GAAP margin, EPS, and EBITDA guidance while reiterating revenue and FCF .
  • Cash from operations was $11.5M with $7.1M in adjusted FCF, CSG’s strongest first-quarter adjusted FCF since 2018, aided by working capital improvements; management reaffirmed the plan to return $100M+ to shareholders in 2025 (Q1 dividend $0.32, buybacks $22M) .
  • Diversification advanced: “All other” verticals were 33% of revenue (record), with wins/extensions at Mediacom, Liberty Latin America, PLDT, JPMorgan Chase and NTTA; top-2 customers (Charter/Comcast) comprised 37% of Q1 revenue .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Margin/FCF execution: “We delivered 19.0% non-GAAP operating margin…[and] our best first quarter non-GAAP adjusted free cash flow performance since 2018,” with Q1 adj. FCF of $7M; FY25 midpoint FCF guidance implies ~15% YoY growth .
  • Revenue diversification and mix: A record 33% of revenue came from non-CSP verticals; payments merchants grew 13% YoY to 135,000; CEO: “Our operating discipline and improving revenue mix resulted in Q1 2025 adjusted non-GAAP profitability expanding…to 19%” .
  • Customer momentum: New/extended deals at Mediacom (includes Bill Explainer.ai), Liberty Latin America (digital wholesale suite), PLDT (smart invoicing), JPMorgan Chase (overdraft CX), and NTTA (data-driven CX) .

What Went Wrong

  • GAAP compression: GAAP operating margin fell to 9.8% (from 10.8% YoY) and GAAP EPS to $0.57 (from $0.68) due to higher restructuring/reorganization charges .
  • Big-2 optics: Comcast/Charter revenues were down sequentially vs Q4; management cited a tough comp from ~$10M one-time Comcast revenue in 2024 and no 2025 price increase in the 6-year Comcast renewal .
  • Telco decision timing/services mix: Management flagged extended decision cycles and an intentional pivot toward out-of-the-box SaaS (less services-heavy), which can slow near-term services revenue recognition even as SaaS pipeline builds .

Financial Results

Headline P&L vs prior quarters and vs estimates

MetricQ3 2024Q4 2024Q1 2025
Revenue ($M)$295.1 $316.7 $299.5
Revenue Consensus Mean ($M)$278.8*$289.9*$272.8*
GAAP EPS ($)$0.67 $1.21 $0.57
Non-GAAP EPS ($)$1.06 $1.65 $1.14
EPS Consensus Mean ($)$1.061*$1.207*$1.014*
GAAP Operating Margin (%)10.8% 13.4% 9.8%
Non-GAAP Adjusted Operating Margin (%)18.4% 20.1% 19.0%
Adj. EBITDA Margin (% of revenue less txn fees)23.4% 24.8% 23.7%

Notes: Q1 2025 revenue beat by ~$26.6M and non-GAAP EPS beat by ~$0.13 vs S&P Global consensus; Q4 2024 also delivered significant beats. Values marked with * retrieved from S&P Global.

Q1 2025 YoY comparison

MetricQ1 2024Q1 2025YoY
Revenue ($M)$295.1 $299.5 +1.5%
GAAP EPS ($)$0.68 $0.57 (16.2%)
Non-GAAP EPS ($)$1.01 $1.14 +12.9%
Non-GAAP Adjusted Operating Margin (%)16.6% 19.0% +240 bps

Segment/Customer/Geo mix

Revenue by Vertical (%)Q3 2024Q4 2024Q1 2025
Broadband/Cable/Satellite53% 51% 50%
Telecommunications18% 20% 17%
All Other (non-CSP)29% 29% 33%
Revenue by Geography (%)Q3 2024Q4 2024Q1 2025
Americas88% 84% 87%
EMEA9% 10% 9%
APAC3% 6% 4%
Top CustomersQ3 2024 ($M, % rev)Q4 2024 ($M, % rev)Q1 2025 ($M, % rev)
Charter$59.1, 20% $59.7, 19% $57.6, 19%
Comcast$58.7, 20% $58.9, 19% $52.8, 18%

KPIs and Capital Returns (Q1 2025)

KPIQ1 2025
Payments merchants (’000)135 (+13% YoY)
Operating Cash Flow ($M)$11.5
Adj. Free Cash Flow ($M)$7.1
Dividend per share$0.32 (payable 7/2/25)
Share repurchases~357k shares for ~$22M

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious Guidance (2/5/25)Current Guidance (5/7/25)Change
Revenue ($B)FY 2025$1.210–$1.250 No change Maintained
Non-GAAP Adjusted Operating Margin (%)FY 202518.1–18.5 18.4–18.8 Raised
Non-GAAP EPS ($)FY 20254.55–4.80 4.65–4.90 Raised
Adj. EBITDA ($M)FY 2025256–267 258–269 Raised
Adj. Free Cash Flow ($M)FY 2025110–150 No change Maintained

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q3’24 and Q4’24)Current Period (Q1’25)Trend
Operating discipline and margin expansionEmphasized raising FY24 profitability targets; Q4 adj. op margin 20.1% 19.0% adj. op margin (+240 bps YoY); raised FY25 profit/EPS guidance Improving
Revenue diversification beyond CSPs“All other” 29% in Q3/Q4; Comcast 6-year renewal Record 33% non-CSP; wins across media, financial services, tolling Improving
Big-2 customers (Charter/Comcast)Renewed Comcast through 2030; Q4 +3% YoY Big-2 revenue Sequential softness; explained one-time 2024 comp (~$10M) and no 2025 price increase Mixed optics, explained
SaaS/Cloud (Ascendon), AI in CXQ4: cloud-native Ascendon wins; AI in CX highlighted Continued pivot to out-of-the-box SaaS; AI (Bill Explainer.ai) cited at Mediacom Positive mix shift
Telco macro/decision cyclesTough but steady pipeline; 2–4% organic growth outlook Macro uncertainty persists; timing is challenge, not demand Stable/cautious
FCF and balance sheet2024 adj. FCF $113M; net leverage ~1.5x Best Q1 FCF since 2018; new $600M revolver; net debt leverage 1.6x Strengthening
M&ADisciplined tuck-ins in 2024; hunting for value Active pipeline; mix of “better-than-us” SaaS and accretive scale deals Optionality intact

Management Commentary

  • “We delivered 19.0% non-GAAP operating margin… We diversified CSG’s revenue even more with 33% of Q1 revenue coming from big faster-growing industry verticals outside of cable and telecom” – Brian Shepherd, CEO .
  • “Our Q1 2025 non-GAAP EPS was $1.14… Our margin expansion is being driven by increasing success in selling sticky SaaS solutions combined with operating leverage initiatives” – Hai Tran, CFO .
  • “Best first quarter non-GAAP adjusted free cash flow since 2018… We announced a 7% annual dividend increase… and repurchased $22M of shares in Q1” – Brian Shepherd .
  • “We extended our 30-year relationship with Mediacom… [including] CSG Bill Explainer.ai, our AI-driven solution” – Brian Shepherd .
  • “We entered into a new… $600M revolving credit facility… with identical borrowing rates to our former 2021 terms and a covenant-light package” – Hai Tran .

Q&A Highlights

  • Macro/timing: Management sees continued macro uncertainty and belt-tightening; short-ROI projects proceed, larger transformations move with caution but continue to sign .
  • Margin playbook: Ongoing “operating discipline,” cost optimization, and innovation reallocation; mix shift to higher-margin SaaS also lifts margins and FCF .
  • Comcast/Charter: Sequential declines tied to a ~$10M one-time Comcast benefit in 2024 and no 2025 price increase in the renewed Comcast deal; long-term CAGR for Big-2 still ~2.6% historically .
  • Telco vertical: No slowdown in wins; intentional pivot to out-of-the-box SaaS reduces services-heavy revenue; decision cycles extended but pipeline healthy .
  • Cash flow phasing: Q1 is expected to be the low point for 2025; free cash flow expected to grow through the year .

Estimates Context

  • CSG materially beat S&P Global consensus in Q1: revenue $299.5M vs $272.8M* and non-GAAP EPS $1.14 vs $1.01*; Q4 and Q3 also featured revenue/EPS beats, reinforcing estimate momentum .
  • With FY25 non-GAAP EPS, margin, and EBITDA guidance raised (revenue/FCF reiterated), Street models likely need to reflect higher profitability assumptions for 2025 while holding similar revenue/FCF trajectories .

Estimates vs Actuals (S&P Global consensus; $M except EPS)

MetricQ3 2024 Est*Q3 2024 ActualQ4 2024 Est*Q4 2024 ActualQ1 2025 Est*Q1 2025 Actual
Revenue278.8*295.1 289.9*316.7 272.8*299.5
Non-GAAP EPS1.061*1.06 1.207*1.65 1.014*1.14

Values marked with * retrieved from S&P Global.

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Quality beat with profitable growth: Revenue and non-GAAP EPS beats, 240 bps YoY margin expansion, and strongest Q1 adjusted FCF since 2018 underscore execution on mix and discipline .
  • Guidance raise on profitability: FY25 non-GAAP margin, EPS, and EBITDA all raised; revenue and FCF maintained, signaling confidence in mix shift and cost actions without changing topline outlook .
  • Diversification de-risking story: Non-CSP revenue at a record 33% with multi-vertical wins (media, financials, tolling), while Big-2 concentration at 37% continues to trend down structurally .
  • Near-term optics manageable: Sequential Big-2 softness explained by one-time Q1’24 comp and contractual pricing timing; management reiterates 2–3% 2025 growth and strong pipeline .
  • Structural mix tailwinds: Intentional shift to out-of-the-box SaaS (Ascendon) and AI-infused CX (Bill Explainer.ai) should support sustained margin and FCF expansion .
  • Capital returns and balance sheet flexibility: $600M revolver, ~1.6x net leverage, ongoing buybacks/dividend support total shareholder yield and M&A optionality .
  • Trading setup: The narrative centers on durable profitability/FCF expansion and estimate revisions on margins; watch execution on SaaS ramps, services mix transition, and multi-vertical wins as catalysts .

Additional Supporting Details

  • Q1 2025 8-K furnished the earnings release (Item 2.02), including raised FY25 non-GAAP profitability/EPS targets and unchanged revenue/FCF guidance .
  • Other relevant Q1 press releases: CSG and NetLync launched an Entitlements-as-a-Service platform to accelerate eSIM transformation for MNOs/MVNOs (April 29, 2025) ; Board approved a $0.32 quarterly dividend, payable July 2, 2025 (announced May 23, 2025) .