Easterly Government Properties - Q1 2024
April 30, 2024
Transcript
Operator (participant)
Welcome to the Easterly Government Properties First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session between the company's research analysts and Easterly's management team. To ask a question during the session, analysts will need to press star one one on their telephone. They will then hear an automated message advising their hand is raised. Please be advised, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Lindsay Winterhalter, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Lindsay Winterhalter (Head of Investor Relations)
Good morning. Before the call begins, please note that certain statements made during this conference call may include statements that are not historical facts and are considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although the company believes that its expectations, as reflected in any forward-looking statements, are reasonable, it can give no assurance that these expectations will be attained or achieved. Furthermore, actual results may differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements and will be affected by a variety of risks and factors that are beyond the company's control, including, without limitation, those contained in the company's most recent Form 10-K filed with the SEC and in its other SEC filings. The company assumes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements.
Additionally, on this conference call, the company may refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, such as funds from operations, core funds from operations, and cash available for distribution. You can find a tabular reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable current GAAP numbers in the company's earnings release and the separate supplemental information package on the investor relations page of the company's website at ir.easterlyreit.com. I'd now like to turn the conference call over to Darrell Crate, CEO of Easterly Government Properties.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Thanks, Lindsay, and thank you to everyone for joining us. We are pleased with our progress this quarter as we work through opportunities. I'll keep it brief so we can get to Q&A, but I've got three important messages I'd like you all to take away from this call. First, we believe there's a path towards material earnings growth for shareholders, and we're on it. Meghan and Allison will talk to you about the numerous drivers shortly. Second, we know the payout ratio of our dividend is high, but we also believe there is a growth path we can pursue that helps materially close that gap. We are also actively reassessing and managing our expenses.
Further, we currently sit with just under $3 billion in rent coming from the U.S. government with the leases that we own today, and if that portfolio were to renew up 10% for 10 years, which are modest assumptions, we'd be collecting nearly $6 billion of full faith and credit rent from the U.S. government. We believe it's our job to give as many dollars as we can to our shareholders, and given the creditworthiness and duration of the cash flows backing our dividends, we remain very comfortable with the periods of higher payout ratio. Third, we occupy a unique place in the broader real estate industry, owning and designing essential infrastructure for the U.S. government's mission-critical agencies. For example, our DEA drug labs enable Homeland Security to trace and stop Sinaloa Cartel activities amid an ongoing increase in drug trafficking crimes.
In 2022, fentanyl was responsible for 200 deaths every single day, and over quarter a million Americans have died from fentanyl overdose since 2018. Let that sink in for a minute. Our facilities bolster the special agents actively combating those figures. We're not an office REIT, and this year we're going to continue ensuring that the market understands the breadth of what Easterly offers. This may be boring, but these are the stats that I know you're going to ask. We beat the Street and reported $0.29 in core FFO per share, and we sit comfortably at the midpoint of our target leverage of 6.5-7.5 times. We continue to acquire and develop new facilities in our portfolio. These facilities are not offices for transient commercial use.
By focusing on properties leased to government agencies and their... We've maintained the stability of our cash flows at favorable renewal spreads and seen a robust pipeline of growth opportunities. Earlier this month, we announced the acquisition of an Immigration and Customs Enforcement information technology facility near Dallas, Texas, which enables ICE's [audio distortion] Office of Human Capital to modernize its IT systems and bolster its technological capabilities. The rationale behind this deal is clear: The facility is 95% leased, has a 16.2-year weighted average initial lease term for all three tenancies, and maintains an additional 6,154 sq ft available for future leasing as a value-add opportunity. All three factors enhance our cash flows, maintain significant occupancy upside, and strengthen our definable edge as specialists in mission-critical real estate.
This acquisition is in line with the existing properties in our portfolio, such as Federal Emergency Management Agency's Tracy, California, warehouse. FEMA Tracy is one of eight distribution centers within the United States for emergency response preparedness. Amid the ongoing threats of wildfire and other natural disasters in California, the property helps provide on-the-ground support and crucial supplies capable of mobilizing between 3-4 million meals and liters of water that is stored at the facility within 30 minutes....Our Drug Enforcement Administration laboratory in Pleasanton, California, serves a similar mission-critical purpose, providing scientific and forensic support to the DEA special agents and other law enforcement personnel who prevent the distribution of deadly drugs like fentanyl into our society. And we store over 35,000 pieces of illegal and oftentimes deadly evidence in that facility each year.
Meanwhile, the DEA's approved funding increased over 6% between 2022 and 2023, and its total headcount rose over 4% during the same period to combat the increased manufacture and distribution of controlled substances. As the government strengthens its agencies maintaining the safety of our country, we continue to fortify their abilities through mission-critical real estate. These purpose-built facilities serve as Easterly's definable edge in commercial real estate and continue to be the bedrock of the shareholder value, which we deliver. We will continue to pursue creative deals, and we have no plans to sell buildings in the near future as we work to continue to expand the portfolio with high creditworthy state and local government agencies and U.S. government adjacent partners.
Frankly, we believe Easterly is well positioned to continue to provide value to our stockholders by developing and buying more great mission-critical buildings, continuing our strong partnership with the government, and protecting our balance sheet. We are in constant dialogue with the board, and in forward planning mode. In addition to delivering external growth, we are laser focused on cutting operating costs this year, both of which we believe will aid in our ability to meet or exceed our 2%-3% core FFO growth trajectory. We're excited to continue delivering shareholder value and enhancing our portfolio with a foundation of cash flows, backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government. The future remains bright for Easterly in 2024, and now I'll turn the call over to Meghan Baivier, the company's President and COO.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Thanks, Darrell, and good morning. We started off our 2024 by establishing clearly defined goals for the company, and we are on pace to deliver. We believe, we believe our government-backed cash flows have been undervalued in the public markets these past few years, and we attribute that to our recent periods of low growth. 2024 is the start of that change. We have launched our growth trajectory with the acquisition of ICE Dallas, delivering strong, predictable cash flows and run rate accretion to our shareholders. We see a pipeline of opportunities that we believe will further our ability to meet our stated goals of delivering 2%-3% Core FFO growth year-over-year for years to come.
For example, we are pursuing a unique opportunity to serve as lenders and buyers of mission-critical assets that we believe will further change the growth trajectory of this organization. We look forward to keeping you apprised as this develops. In the meantime, we secured a brand new built-to-suit federal courthouse development project in Flagstaff, Arizona, for an inaugural 20-year lease term. This important courthouse is expected to house the nation's first ever Native American female federal judge and is expected to be the company's first ever LEED Silver Net Zero development project. Our in-place portfolio continues to perform as we achieve renewals at meaningful spreads. We renewed DEA Albany for another 17 years, marking the third renewal of this asset while owned by Easterly. You are probably sick of hearing me say it, but once again, this highlights just how far from the office sector we are.
As Darrell mentioned, the importance of the work being performed in our buildings cannot be replicated at home, and such a dynamic is apparent in our ongoing renewal discussions. Allison will go into greater detail, but we believe we are in a period where the duration and creditworthiness of our cash flows, the importance of our real estate, and our defined edge in serving mission-critical assets will accrue to our benefit and separate us from our peers. As we have seen notable names take down their earnings guidance, our beaten path should stand apart from the crowd. We are excited about the opportunities for growth at Easterly. We see the growth trajectory filling in with new projects that further our mission of serving the government, while also delivering attractive returns for shareholders. With that, I will turn the call to Allison.
Allison Marino (CFO and Chief Accounting Officer)
Thank you, Meghan. Good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to report the financial results for the first quarter. Both on a fully diluted basis, net income per share was $0.05, and core FFO per share grew to $0.29. Our cash available for distribution was $25.9 million. Interest rates have certainly been a headwind for the broader real estate market, Easterly included. We seek to minimize interest expense at a time of high underlying rates, be that with a focus towards strategic treasury management or, more recently, our ESG goals. We achieved a reduction in the margin spreads under the company's amended senior unsecured credit facility as a result of hitting a predetermined sustainability metric.
Easterly also continues to sit comfortably at the midpoint of our target leverage range of 6.5-7.5 times, and maintains ample capacity on our revolver while limiting floating rate debt exposure. As Darrell mentioned—Meghan mentioned, external growth through mission-critical real estate is our primary focus, and we see a market of opportunities ahead. Our ability to manage our upcoming debt maturities, plan for capital needs, and access debt and equity markets is integral to harvesting this growth. At Easterly, we pride ourselves on a portfolio of purpose-built buildings, and we manage that portfolio with a purpose-built team. Our organization is committed to finding operational efficiencies throughout the portfolio, managing expense creep, and releasing at positive spreads. Everyone at the company contributes to furthering the mission of driving value for shareholders.
Today, we are maintaining our full year Core FFO per share guidance for 2024 in a range of $1.14-$1.16, all on a fully diluted basis. This guidance assumes the closing of VA Jacksonville through the joint venture at its pro rata acquisition price of $40.9 million later this year, and that we will have $100 million-$110 million of growth development related investments during 2024. At its midpoint, this sets a path for Easterly to deliver strong Core FFO per share earnings growth to shareholders this year. We believe this represents a market leading risk-adjusted return and charts a course for delivering long-standing growth opportunities for our investors. With that, we thank you for your time this morning and appreciate your partnership. I will now turn the call back to Shannon.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. As a reminder to the analysts, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from John Kim with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
John Kim (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Thank you. In your press release, you talked about earnings growth of 2%-3%. I think that's a little bit lower than what you were targeting back in January. So I was wondering if there was anything that's a headwind to earnings in the near term, whether that's asset sales or known move-outs that you have, or is it simply just the spread investing has become more difficult?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah. No, thanks, thanks for the question. Really appreciate it. You know, at our Analyst Day, one of the things I shared is that we're on a path to grow 4% for the company, which is what we're working to pursue every day. I think it became clear in our discussions after Analyst Day, that, you know, given the environment that we were in, the idea of going out with 4% sounded like we were gonna be kind of yelling into the wind, especially as office, you know, guidance was continuing to decline. So we modified the expectations to 2%-3%, which seems like a very reasonable step.
Given the things that we're working on, you know, we're gonna hit those targets and we may very well exceed them, and we're working every day to make that happen. So, you know, our view on the business today is the same as it was at the beginning of the year. We are going to cut costs to make our numbers. We've got a terrific pipeline that continues to build, and, you know, we're developing properties, you know, into the 8s, with fantastic facilities that I think will be with the government for many decades.
So as that all comes together, we're very excited for, you know, the next couple of quarters, to be able to lay that out, which is also why, you know, we have some exuberance and optimism, you know, also about our dividend.
John Kim (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Just following up on that, Darrell. I mean, the interest rate environment has changed since January. So I wondered if that played into your outlook at all, as well as there've been recent reports, I think there was one by the PBRB earlier, I guess it was last month, on federal agencies only using 12% of their headquarter space. Is that leading to any pressure to reduce costs among government agencies?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah.
John Kim (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I was just wondering, you know, what-
Darrell Crate (CEO)
I mean-
John Kim (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
What changed.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Again, not, not, not specifically, you know, in our medium-term outlook, you're absolutely right. The yield curve, you know, goes up a little bit. The model that we're creating, and we're so excited, you know, we look at a five-year model all the time, and it gets super annoying, you know, for that yield curve to go up, and it just means we have to, you know, work harder or cut costs to make it because, you know, we're laying out a path for shareholders. That said, none of it, you know, kind of changes the way we work. We are just gonna have to, you know, dig a little deeper and make it happen. And that is, you know, that's all within our control.
There's nothing that's, sort of seems beyond reach. You know, and to the point about space utilization, we are not seeing that as a dynamic in our buildings and what we're gonna do, and you know, sort of what Lindsay was referring to, and you know, my... Even though I said I'd be brief, I did, you know, go on to a dialogue about fentanyl. We really do-- we're gonna start, you know, on our website, instead of putting pretty buildings, you know, pictures on the outside, we're gonna start showing folks what's on the inside. And what you see there, you will get an immediate sense that there's no need to reduce the floor plan.
You know, from everything from CBP, you know, folks know there's a problem on the border, and nobody knows it more than, you know, the border patrol people. We, you know, when you look at the DEA, their budget is growing. The Sinaloa Cartel is getting stronger. You know, we were just out in California with some people who are intensely focused on making sure the American population stays safer. We've got fentanyl coming from China. That is a serious problem. People in our buildings are working on exactly that.
We're talking about facility projects, about moving walls, doing different things that, again, facilitate mission, make sure they have the meeting rooms they need, make sure they have the secure facilities they need, make sure that they have what they can, because they come together in these offices to plan and then move on their mission. And making sure that they can do that in a well-maintained building, you know, that has what they need in order to make that happen is what we do every day, and it's how we've built a you know, we're a good partner with the government, and it's how we believe we've created a definable edge in what we do.
John Kim (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Appreciate the color. Thanks.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, thank you. Really appreciate it. And look, the more you on this call, we can get, any of these as sort of bits of skepticism or, you know, what's in the news, it's super helpful to us because, we just-- it feels like, we play Whac-A-Mole with, you know, the Department of Education is shrinking, so people think the FBI is shrinking. And, I mean, our investor calls and, you know, and investor meetings, it's, it's chronically the question, you know, with regard to work from home, governments shrinking, and then, you know, what's happening in your buildings. And I so wish we had a competitor, you know, direct competitor, so that we could show the good work we're doing. Because, I mean, I've been out touring-- aggressively touring buildings, and, you know, we hear again and again.
And believe me, the government, you know, so, you know, it's not like the IRS sends you a nice letter every year, says, "Thanks for filing your taxes on time. We really appreciate it." But I would say, you know, we are getting compliments from the government, and they are not quick complimenters, about what we're doing and how we're focused on facilitating mission. Because we watch what they're doing in the facilities, and we make suggestions around how we could modify this facility. One, you know, our job, one, is to fight obsolescence, but we do that by deeply understanding their mission and giving them every opportunity to say, "Hey, we'll move this wall. We'll do this, we'll do that, and would that help you?" And the reality is, it does, and sometimes that doesn't cost very much money at all, and the government will pay for it.
And so, when we are able to create the actual plan and say, "Hey, send this back to headquarters, and here's your rationale," those projects can move forward. And so, you know, that, again, that's how we're helping as a partner. And the more we can have investors and folks who own our portfolio understand what we do each and every day, that's very different than anybody else out there. I think that, I think that folks will be proud of what they own and what we're building.
John Kim (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I didn't expect then.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Griffin of Citi. Your line is now open.
Michael Griffin (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Great, thanks. I just wanted to go back to the full year guidance for a second and maybe run through kind of some additional puts and takes. So, as I see it, you know, $0.29 in the quarter, a slight beat, maybe you get some accretion from the ICE deal. You know, how should we think about kind of the cadence of earnings throughout the year? And then also, if you could provide some more color on that ICE deal in terms of overall valuation per square foot and anything on the cap rate would be helpful.
Allison Marino (CFO and Chief Accounting Officer)
Okay. I can start with what our guidance entails and what it comprises of. So our guidance reflects 2-3 pennies of same-store improvement and growth in margins of 2%-3%, 2-3 pennies of G&A savings, and that is offset by 3-4 pennies of interest rate headwinds from the 2023 swap reprice. And then Meghan will touch a little bit on Dallas.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Yeah. So Dallas was a little under $26 million, Griff. It's about, it's a mid-8 cap. You know, at that size and that level of cap rate, we're expecting sort of run rate accretion of about sort of a penny.
And so it is absolutely a piece of our ability to continue to build on our initial guidance and continue, as Darrell said, right, to grow from the stated 2-3 to the higher end of that range or above that range. It's a building block in that. And as we continue through the year with strong performance in the portfolio, continuing to, you know, meet or beat that expectation that Allison laid out on the same-store NOI, as we look at cost structure, is also a place where we could see some upside.
Michael Griffin (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Great. That's helpful. And Meghan, maybe sticking with you. Obviously, external growth is going to be a big part of the story in order to drive earnings going forward. What would you say your weighted average cost of capital is today, and what's the minimum spread you'd need to justify investing in a property? And is it correct to think about us as a spread investor today?
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Yeah. So, Griff, you know, we look at our cost of capital today, given a you know understanding of where we can finance in multiple avenues of the debt market, as being in the mid-sevens. And, of course, we are looking to be a spread investor to that level. And so acquiring assets in the high sevens to mid eights is, you know, very much what we're looking to do, and ICE Dallas is an example of that.
Michael Griffin (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah, and in terms of maybe debt and equity kind of differential there, is it fair to say you and you're financing a deal, it's half debt, half equity, or you know, maybe greater to the equity side as opposed to the debt?
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Yeah. Triangulating and looking at debt/equity mixes, even though multiples, yes, you're in that sort of 50%, give or take range as we think about weighted average cost of capital.
Michael Griffin (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Great. That's it for me. Thanks for the time.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question is from Peter Abramowitz of Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
Peter Abramowitz (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Thanks. Yes, just to dig a little bit more into some of the comments on guidance there, that was helpful. But just trying to square that with-
... some of your comments about revisiting your expense structure. Just wondering if you'd provide some brackets around kind of expense reduction, the impact that has to earnings, whether it's kind of an absolute dollar number or just from a margin perspective, what you're sort of targeting?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, no, it's a great question. You know, we're a couple of months into really just assessing, you know, the workflow of all our systems and processes, because, you know, what we do is a little bit different, you know, than other REITs. So, we are trying to, again, you know, we spend a lot of time talking about the relationship between value and excellence. And, we want to be an outstanding partner to the government, but we also want to make sure, you know, that we are executing on that in a way, you know, that has the least burden cost structure possible. And I think we'll see some cost savings in 2025 and beyond.
So we don't have a target for what that's going to be, but we're going to find an efficiency point in everything we do, from property management to how we're financing our buildings, to how we, you know, we, you know, structure our leases and how we focus on renewals. And, you know, that combination, you know, we will find something under, you know, each of the rocks that we pick up, and it's a great opportunity with interest rates moving for us to just, you know, reassess everything that we do. Because, you know, we've had some very nice growth for the almost 10 years since we've been public.
We continue to grow every bit of our infrastructure, excuse me, sort of in a way that we obtain some advantages of scale. But I think, you know, there's more to find. So we're going to be pursuing that exercise, while we're also, you know, I don't mean to make it sound easy. You know, we are going to find high-quality buildings that match what works in our portfolio, that are in the high 7s, mid 8s. If we had a cost of capital that was 60 basis points lower, I think it's not unreasonable, to say we'd be doing, you know, $1 billion+ of acquisitions. Because, you know, we're seeing sellers, you know, balance sheet pressures and refinancing, you're starting to see buildings, come available.
There's one building that, gosh, we loved and was probably a. This seller would not have taken anything less than 5.5 cap at one point, which is why it was a building that wasn't for us. But we put an offer in that was 150 basis points higher than that, and there's still a conversation to be had. And you know, this is, we're seeing the market move in this direction, and it's our acquisitions team's job to find a couple hundred million dollars of buildings that are in that criteria, that you know, meet all the criteria of being a spread buyer.
You know, for us to use our advantage and our relationships with the agencies and on the ground in order to get our buildings built and move forward. I mean, I'll give you one example, and I think the ICE Dallas is kind of buried in there, which is, you know, we do have this 6,000 sq ft of extra space, and we call it value add, and we kind of skim through it in the script. But we do a good job at our buildings, and because of that, if there are areas to expand, or there's a way to... You know, agencies today are doing more intra-agency task force work than I've ever seen before.
So the idea of creating a special facility that's a joint facility, or, you know, a joint, activity space, is a terrific opportunity. Our FDA lab in Atlanta, some of you have come to see it, but I mean, it is an amazing facility. It's, it is it has plenty of extra room in it, and I think it will be the premier FDA lab, you know, in the United States. And with that, there's a, there's a, a significant opportunity to make that a center of excellence, you know, within FDA, and none of that's, you know, in our underwriting today.
So I don't mean to make the growth path sound easy, but I think between, you know, the cost structures that we're talking about and finding, you know, the acquisitions that are accretive on a spread basis, will get us into a place where we're delivering some very nice growth.
Peter Abramowitz (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Thanks. That's helpful. And then just to touch on, I think you have three expirations remaining to address this year in the portfolio. So Allison laid out, I think, some parameters around what you're expecting from NOI growth for the full year. Just curious if you could touch on potentially the rent roll up or roll down there, and kind of how you've budgeted that into your guidance, and what sort of rent assumptions you're assuming to get to your midpoint.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Yeah. So Peter, we obviously were successful at renewing the Albany in the quarter. And we'll speak again about the portfolio at the end of the year. But if I dial back to the expectations that were stated on the fourth quarter call, around the 32 leases that we had renewed, regardless of whether or not the TI had been completed, you know, the expected 18 point, excuse me, 18% spread and duration of 17.2 years, right? Albany tucks in nicely with no material change to that expectation. And then as we look to the rest of 2024, you know, we're very optimistic about the process ongoing at FBI Omaha. We do expect the FBI lease in Portland to be...
to be extended through a renewal option, and the rest really drops off to sort of the material levels of leases. But, broadly speaking, we remain optimistic about the renewal success within our portfolio and sustained occupancy levels.
Peter Abramowitz (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Got it. That's all for me. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question is from Aditi Balachandran of RBC. Please proceed with your question.
Aditi Balachandran (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Hi, good morning. Congrats on the Flagstaff development announcement. Just wondering if we could get a little more information about that, if you could provide it. So I guess, what are your expected yields, the budget, when you're expected to break ground, things like that?
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Sure. So the new award that we won is a federal district courthouse in Flagstaff, Arizona. It's going to be an estimated project cost just touching $35 million, and as you said, we're developing into the eighth there. It will, it's in design today, and it will get underway as we get into the fourth—late third or early fourth quarter of this year.
Aditi Balachandran (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Great. Thanks. Glad.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from the line of Harvey Poppel with PopTech LP. Your line is now open.
Harvey Poppel (Partner and Managing Director)
Yes, thank you. You haven't talked much about the initiative, new initiative you previewed, maybe 6-9 months ago, about going into the state property market. Do you have anything to report on that?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, I'd say the quick headlines are, you know, we continue to be exploring plenty of opportunities. We've got a robust pipeline. We did buy our one building in Anaheim, California, that is basically adjudicates workers' compensation claims, and it's in a terrific place. And when you look at what is going to, you know, be developed in that area by the time the lease terminates, we're very excited about it. We continue to work across states and every week are going through a whole series of opportunities, and I think that will be a real contributor to our earnings, you know, certainly in 2025, maybe we'll see a little bit of some accretive deals in 2024.
They'll be happening probably later, so we won't—that won't probably affect this year's guidance. But it's a really significant, you know, total addressable market, and we should be able to find some, some, some terrific long-term opportunities in this space. Likewise, you know, just to take the opportunity, you know, we've also talked about government adjacencies. You know, this is a place particularly where we have an opportunity to develop buildings for very high credit corporates that are building buildings today because we're onshoring, so, you know, new activities in the United States. And in doing so, we're building buildings that are just the buildings that we have, you know, for many of our U.S. government agencies.
It's far easier for folks who have a government contract and may not have worked with government for a significant period of time to come to somebody like us and understand that the building and the facility that'll be built will be one that will enable them to meet, you know, their obligations under their government contract in a way that is uninhibited.
Harvey Poppel (Partner and Managing Director)
Mm-hmm. One would think that there's got to be pockets in some of the states of small property owners, whether they're structured as REITs or others, that might be acquirable in certain states. Have you seen any opportunities to just acquire a business that might hold several properties in a state?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Well, I think, yeah. So, and we'd call those, you know, in portfolios, and we certainly see plenty of portfolios, because in the federal space for the last decade, you know, we've been working with folks who have, you know, material portfolios. We've tracked each one of them. We understand which buildings we'd be most excited about, and, and, and we work and cultivate relationships with those folks, that sometimes are, you know, are fruitful in 6-9 months, and sometimes it's 3, 4, or 5 years.
So, you know, you're onto something, which is, we're getting to know the folks who develop those buildings or have created a portfolio, learning about the dynamics and really spending a lot of time, you know, going to school on how'd they get there, what happened, how'd it work, and so that we can find, you know, kind of the right match for us. We don't want to be hasty in moving to this space, but we know that it's a strong opportunity, not only because we can find very high quality buildings that, you know, satisfy, you know, a state's mission, but these leases also have escalators. So, my friend Allison here will not get it such a hard time for, you know, same store sales.
You know, as we start looking to 2026, 2027, 2028, you know, we can, you know, it would be really nice for us to start the year knowing that we're growing, you know, over 1 to, you know, somewhere in the range of 1%-2%, you know, when we turn the lights on. And, you know, one of the challenges that we've found is that when we exercised a lot of discipline, it was the right thing to do when the market changed abruptly, we found ourselves in a place where we weren't growing, and the equity markets don't like that. And so, we sort of called it early.
I think probably 3 or 4 months, we stopped buying before other office, you know, sort of REITs, which we get bunched with, we're, we're talking about it, and I think you're finding us today... you know, maybe being a harbinger of good news, you know, for, for, for some of those folks, because we are—we're sorting through lots of opportunities. If we're picky about it, we can find things that are accretive, and that's our job. And as we, you know, look forward to the, you know, end of the year, beginning of the year, I think we're gonna be at a healthy space to announce acquisitions as part of our guidance again, and, you know, doing all of those things. So, we're meeting with lots of folks who own portfolios. If you know of any, send them our way.
and we are executing on, you know, each of these, you know, three lanes of opportunity, and I'd very much hope in the next 36 months, you know, almost a third of the company is comprised both of adjacent properties, 15% adjacent properties, 15% state and local.
Harvey Poppel (Partner and Managing Director)
Thank you very much.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question is from Travis Turpin of Seeking Alpha. Please proceed with your question.
Travis Turpin (Senior Research Analyst)
Yes, good morning. I know you guys have talked about the dividend a little bit, but my question was, I know the payout ratio is kind of high right now. Did you guys have a target range that you were targeting and a timeframe for that?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah. No, no, great question, because you know, we obviously you know, look at the dividend each and every day, Travis. We look out and you know, clearly getting our dividend, you know, our dividend below that 100% payout ratio, which is always our goal, and even a little bit lower, is where we want to get to. We maybe just to be very clear about it, you know, we are not interested in cutting our dividend because even though that may create some other pennies of growth in the future, the plans that we have more than offset it, and we're on a path to, you know, in the next 24-36 months, to be in a place where we're covering our dividend. I hope it's sooner than that.
We've had periods like this, where we've had, you know, high payout ratio relative to what the, what the, the strategy is delivering. But we believe, given the stability of our cash flows, delivering that consistent dividend is something we're capable of doing. So, you know, as we look out the next 2-3 years, we should get that solved hopefully sooner. And in getting a payout ratio below 100%, certainly is the goal.
Travis Turpin (Senior Research Analyst)
Okay, thank you. My next question is, since you talked about in the next 24-36, 36 months, with the payout ratio below 100%, I know you guys have talked about buybacks before. Is that something else you're looking at once you get the payout ratio solved and start making accretive acquisitions and things like that?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, I think that's right. You know, I mean, we really do, you know, try and take a, you know, corporate finance perspective to what we're doing. And, you know, given where the, the stock price is relative to our opportunities, you know, we see, we see some, some real opportunity. We imagine, you know, that that's gonna. It takes a little time for that to get recognized by investors. But if it isn't, you know, we should be certainly in a mode of, you know, generating some capital, you know, even some longer-term capital, you know, that could, that could buy back stocks at attractive prices.
Travis Turpin (Senior Research Analyst)
Thank you. That's all I have.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Our next question is from Michael Lewis of Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah, thank you. You know, you mentioned the 18% rent spreads. You talked a lot about the importance of the work that's happening in your buildings and the way the government's complimenting you on that. And you just mentioned escalators in the leases. You know, what's the portfolio occupancy and the same-store NOI and, you know, the specific rent spreads? And I think, you know, as you talk about some of the, you know, the organic growth potential, I think, you know, reporting that now might be helpful to help us track, you know, where you are and, and how you're doing on that goals, on those goals.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
I think, Mike, you know, the point's taken from a same-store perspective, and I think as we continue to hone our goals around sort of cost realignment, you know, that's a nice opportunity. I think we've historically, given the structure of our leases, right, we've always talked about how over the long arc of time, Same-Store NOI growth sitting in that sort of 50-100 basis point range. But as that has the potential to step out of that range, and I think the communication to the market of how that is driving outcomes is something we can give or shine further light on.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Okay.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
I mean, maybe just stepping back, Michael, you know, give us just a little more perspective on it, which is, I think we're not comfortable nailing down a number right now because it would be some false precision. I think, you know, for folks who may not be as familiar with the story, our leases are flat until they renew. And we, I think, have done a reasonably good job of staggering out the maturities of leases. So if you were to draw a line through the company for five years, six years, seven years, as we look forward, I think we can feel good about Same-Store NOI. That would be, you know, a couple points. But it should match inflation. That's how it should work.
The problem is, you know, there can be specific circumstances where one building renews at a in a terrific experience, I mean, we sometimes have 30, 40% ups... and sometimes, you know, we end up, you know, staying flat. And when those happen, it creates this kind of volatility in same-store growth. And so as we looked at that at the end of last year and said, you know, this is, this is something that's hard for us to explain to the market, and, you know, the market's kind of, you know, you're as good as your last renewal.
You know, it only makes sense for us to, you know, get some leases into the portfolio that do have some escalators in it, so that, you know, maybe it's disappointing to say that we're going to Same-Store NOI growth of, you know, 0.5%-1%, you know, or it's going to be, you know, 2%-3%, but it's always going to be positive. And, you know, we're in a place where I think that's something, you know, we believe, you know, equity markets are going to, you know, better understand. Some of it, as I shared on our Analyst Day, is when we began this, you know, the private equity business back in 2010, the overall concept was, we were going to get a premium in the market for the high credit rating we have.
That proved to be almost true, but we've never been able to take on the leverage that even the rating agencies think we could take on, given the stability of our cash flows, because Green Street and others, and we look like an extreme outlier on the leverage front. So we're in this place where we have, you know, leverage that's in the band of REITs, but we're delivering a much higher stability and, you know, creditworthy cash flow. So that's why moving to a place where that cash flow begins to look more like other REITs. And, you know, we're doing what we have a competitive advantage in, which is being a great partner to government and making governments facilities, you know, that, that, that enhance mission.
If we can find, you know, that spot on the Venn diagram and the third, you know, sort of leg of that, you know, being that it's accretive, we think we're, you know, it's our - it's a reason for getting up every morning. I know that's a lot, but that's as we-
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah, no.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Think about same-store sales, that's where we want to go.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
No, that's good. I, you know, you talked a lot about, you know, fighting this perception battle. And, you know, whether it's trailing four quarters or trailing eight quarters, even, you know, something to kind of show proof of concept, you know, I think would be helpful at this point. And so that-
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
You know, that's why I asked about the same-store NOI.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I understand with the flat leases and they only mark on expiration and all of that.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yes. Totally agree. And I think, you know, we're working very hard to... Again, we will, we're going to, illustrate a proof of concept here. We're linking together a bunch of quarters, and, we also know that if we can show some more growth, you know, and I think by expanding our total addressable market, that becomes much easier in an accretive way. And, you know, we'll still be, you know, the best credit tenancy of, you know, any REIT out there. But we'll be able to have a cash flow profile that is better understood by folks who are looking at the sector broadly and maybe don't take the time to see our buildings or spend time with us.
Because, you know, it's not lost on us that our market cap, relative to the whole market cap of all REITs, is super tiny. And, and given that that's the case, you know, we're not the first folks, you know, people look to, that we just need to be looking a little bit more like the crowd, continue to not lose what differentiates us. And, and I think that's those take, you know, high integrity action that's all based on substance, you know, to, to bring that forward, but make sure we're not getting the form wrong, so that when people look at us and see us, it's easy to understand the, the story of what we're bringing forward.
But in addition, the numbers, you know, don't require a lot of explaining, you know, relative to other opportunities that folks have to invest in the real estate sector.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Listen, so that was kind of one internal growth question. I have one external growth question. It relates to the... You've already been asked about your cost of capital. The cost of equity specifically, right? So you just fielded a question about potential buyback. I think you said earlier, you'll probably do deals, you know, roughly 50% equity and 50% debt. You've been able to use the forwards that you entered into a while back.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yep.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
You know, can you execute your plan right now, the stock's trading below $11.50 a share. You know, can you execute your plan and make accretive acquisitions if your stock price is stuck here, and the 10-year is, you know, 4.75%?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah. The answer is yes. It's obviously harder. And that's why, you know, developing in the eights, and I mean, and we mean in the eights, not like 8.01, you know, is very good for us and very accretive, you know, at these levels. Sad part is, it takes 24 months to build a building. So, you know, so we feel very good about, you know, that medium-term view. You look at something like ICE Dallas, that's accretive. You know, and we'll find, you know, other similar opportunities like that, and I'm very hopeful that as those get executed, my friend Allison here will take your guidance up a little bit. And we'll, you know, be sort of on that path.
And, you know, to your point, you know, we'll be showing proof of concept, which is hopefully we have a conference call, we're saying: Well, in November, we changed our TAM. Here's the research we did. This is what we've delivered, and now here's what we're looking to, to 2025. And, and I think that's, I think that's when the, when, you know, we're going to start being able to show our results, and we don't want to just blurt it all out, you know, right now. So, if we had a $13 stock price, this would be a no-brainer. And I mean, which is a marginal amount relative to where we are. But, that kind of, that, that kind of motion... You know, one of the things we basically have to make the...
Make the case to folks is that we deserve having a $13 or $14 stock price. With that, we'll show you the kinds of buildings that we can buy, and we can show you how we're going to grow. We're fundamentally building the foundation for that story right now. That's what we're executing on every day. It's, you know, frustrating that the world doesn't move faster, but it is all we can do is try and be transparent and have people follow along, and at some point, we think we're going to be rewarded for what we're building and doing.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Is it fair to say you would issue equity at $11.50, you know, for if you match it up with an acquisition with an 8.5 or-
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, if it's accretive.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, if it's accretive, sure. I mean, when I talk about stock buybacks, it's like, if we deliver all this growth out there and, you know, find ourselves in a place where, you know, if the stock is still, you know, what is it, $11.48? You know, then, like, we got to just look at the world and say, "What's going on here?" Because, you know, I know the quality of what we're bringing forward and the IRRs that we have and, you know, compared to everything else that's out there,
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
it's pretty... I don't know, we feel we can make a case.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
that it's very compelling. But we're always interested in points of view around it, and all we can do is try and be incredibly transparent about what we're executing on. You know, we are putting quarter to quarter together. We're very pleased with what we're doing. We don't want to sound over enthusiastic, which is why we talk about 2%-3% instead of a path of 4%, as we've, you know, shared with folks. But we're, you know, we're in a transition period. We see great opportunity. We have a definable edge. We can buy very special real estate, and we think we can create a cash flow profile that should be, you know, materially valued.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah. I was not thinking about buybacks, but we maybe someday in the future, we could talk about that.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
There you go. Yeah. I appreciate it. Yeah, no, look, and I appreciate the conversation. I think these transcripts are really a terrific opportunity for folks to get to know us who don't have time to get on the conference call because we are a smaller cap, you know, REIT. And maybe they'll pick up the paper here in six months and, you know, learn a little bit about what we've been, you know, doing and working very hard to achieve. And I'm, you know, we wouldn't do it if we didn't think we could do it well.
Michael Lewis (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, thank you. Thanks for paying attention and following the company.
Operator (participant)
Our next question is from Bill Crow of Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Hey, good morning. Just a couple of clarifications. The 7% cost of capital, is that based on today's incremental cost of debt and today's stock price? It just feels like that number is too low, but just wanted to get clarification.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Yeah, Bill, good morning.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Good morning.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
I think my comment was closer to mid-7s than low 7. And yes, that is a perspective on where we can issue, again, looking at multiple opportunities in the debt market from the secured to the unsecured, right, multiple tenors. Continuing to work to match our assets and our liabilities, but also, yes, an equity price in and around, right, $12 today.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Okay. So Darrell, the asset you referenced that they wanted a 5.5 cap rate, and now you're 150 basis points wide of that, and they're still talking. That's still not within the range of spread investing, right? You get 7.5-
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah. No, no, no, you're you-
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
You got to be 8+, right?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, you know, but I mean, hey, you know, they've made it more than halfway, Bill, and it's a pretty snazzy building, so-
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah, I agree, but I just-
Darrell Crate (CEO)
If you, if you can give us a little stock price and they can get a little softer, we're going to have a really, you know, a, a nine-figure asset to deliver that, that you're gonna love.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah, snazzy building's great, but if you don't have rollover and you're only getting, you know, 0.5% a year on rollover, that doesn't really buy you anything, right? It doesn't create value.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
That's right.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I mean, that's the challenge, right?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
No, I'm with you.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
18% average roll doesn't cover inflation when you look at it per year. And that's kind of, I think, the sticking point here.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah. No, no, no. Okay, yes. Look, one thing I just want to say is that, yes, I'm with you. I mean, you and I see eye to eye on the math-
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yep
Darrell Crate (CEO)
... and the numbers, and no doubt, it's also, you know, why, again, you know, changing our TAM so that we can have some profile that makes the cash flow a little bit better. Because the reality is, the inflation that we've had over the last couple of years will be recognized in our cash flow 6, 7, 8, 9 years from now, which is just too long, and it's beyond the horizon of anybody, you know, anybody on this call. But the reality is that our buildings are more valuable today because of that than they were, you know, a year or two ago. We just don't have the cash flow to prove it yet.
That's why we need some things with escalators in it and some of the projects that we're working on to develop can be in the eights. And I see ways that we can, you know, again, path to growing 4% is what we're striving to do. We're talking about 2%-3% regularly, and we're going to get there.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yep.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
And you know, we can-- any suggestions you have on showing people-- you know, how we can get to a, you know, again, like a $13-$14 stock price and doing a good job, that will, that starts a whole different magnitude of growth for us.... that you'd see at acquisitions-
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
that are far, far, far higher than we've ever, you know, achieved in our history, so.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
No, I understand that.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I appreciate that. Two, two real quick ones. Dallas acquisition, where in Dallas is that?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Just the airport.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
I don't have the ZIP code.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I don't have the addresses in front of me, either. Okay, that's okay.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
We'll send it to you, Bill.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Okay.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
If you want to go visit, we've got a bunch of facilities in Dallas that we're really happy to have a business tour.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I was just out there for the eclipse. Finally, for me, the two non-government tenants that are in that building, what sort of business is that? How many of those tenants exist within the portfolio?
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
I mean, the vast majority of our tenancy obviously is still, well, they are-
Darrell Crate (CEO)
What do we have?
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Governmental.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
4, 4 or 5 tenants that are private. It's very few.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
Yeah. In the building, they,
Darrell Crate (CEO)
All nice people.
Meghan Baivier (President and COO)
30-35% is to the 2 private tenants, and those are leased through early and late 2030, 2032.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
2032. Perfect. Thank you all very much. Appreciate it.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Oh, thank you, Bill. Really appreciate the effort and appreciate the direct questions because it's the, I think it's the only way it kind of shows the scaffolding of what we're trying to build. So really appreciate it. So it's helpful to have these conversations for investors.
Bill Crow (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yep. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question at this time, please press star one one on your touchtone telephone. Our next question is from Merrill Ross of Compass Point Research and Trading. Please proceed with your question. Merrill Ross.
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I'm sorry.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Merrill?
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Mm-hmm. Hi. Here we go. Okay.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Hi, Merrill.
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
I'm wondering how the desire to cover the dividend might be prioritizing your acquisition versus development pipeline, which might be to the detriment of long-term value creation. Do you see what I'm saying? You know, acquiring buildings, you know, that have then a higher CapEx budget because they're older, right? They're not the new builds that you would build. You know, it has implications for the total return on value creation, and you know, longer than 24 months out. So how is the board looking at the acquisition pipeline and steering you towards covering the dividend?
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, no, it's a really, really good question. And it's exactly the conversation that we had at this board meeting, and it's a conversation we're having, you know, nonstop here. Because, you know, by deciding to pay a dividend that's above the payout ratio, you do find yourself in taking on a little bit more leverage, although tiny, you know, that can probably take a, you know, a penny or so of recurring growth away from the future. That said, I think we don't... We do see the dividend issue as a short-term issue to the degree to which we didn't think, believe it's a short-term issue in the context of our business. You know, we would reassess it.
But as we look at the opportunity to, you know, our development pipeline is very strong. Even where the stock price is today, you know, that leads to some very accretive acquisitions. And we believe that sustaining the dividend today, that the short-term benefit of, you know, of sustaining the dividend, just for consistency, is a marginal detractor from future earnings. But given the opportunities that are in front of us, we think those, you know, well outweigh it. So we are feeling optimistic about being in growth mode, not only from, you know, new state and local buildings with escalators, to working closely with some government adjacent partners that can be substantial, you know, to the additional development that we're doing.
We are very bullish on government real estate, you know, as we're going forward. You know, as compared to, if you looked, you know, 18, 20 months ago, you know, I you know, we were in a time, where I think it was like batten down the hatches, you know, real estate is uncertain, interest rates were ratcheting up, and that was a time of, you know, so you got to circle the wagons and you see every, not just us, but, you know, every real estate, business fund, you know, was in flux. We find ourselves again, you know, feeling very optimistic about where we're going, what we're pursuing. We're finding opportunity, and that makes us, again, feel okay, feel that the dividend is a short-term problem.
If we didn't have that kind of optimism, you know, for where the business is going and what our definable edge in the government space can create, you know, we wouldn't be, you know, so close with our dividend. We do need to get our dividend in line with our cash flow. And, you know, as long as our friends at the Fed don't take the yield curve up another couple hundred basis points, we feel like things are very in reach for for that to be the you know that we're on a very good path. But you're exactly right. And I think the buildings we're buying also, I just want to make this thing.
We're very cognizant of what the CapEx burden is, when we, you know, do the analysis and, you know, I know we've had some conversations with you just about portfolio segmentation and the CapEx that's required and what's required by the government.... that's all in our underwriting, you know, as we, you know, think about, saying something is accretive or not accretive, when we, when we announce it.
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah, I think that some guidance regarding the contractual CapEx might help clarify kind of the board's tolerance, you know-
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
to overpay the dividend, just because then we would know more about why they're making that decision.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yep. No, that makes sense, that, that makes sense.
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah, so it-
Darrell Crate (CEO)
That makes sense to me.
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Yeah. Yeah, it's just fundamental information.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Yeah, and at the end of the day, you know, we are, I mean, just, you know, being very direct, I mean, we, we think about CAD just as much as we think about FFO accretion when we're looking at deals. And there's some deals that are strong on FFO, but have some capital requirements, you know, upon acquisition, for us to get to a place where over the life of the lease, we're operating the building in a way that is that optimizes the return that we can achieve. And for some of those buildings, it just means we've got to find a bigger pipeline. We've got to find buildings that don't have that problem today.
And that's why when I say if we can get our stock price to $13-$14, there's plenty of opportunities that we're recovering, that we're either eliminating because of CAD or eliminating because of, you know, some challenge that is brought on by a lower stock price as a REIT is harder. It's just harder. And, and so it's our job to make the case that we can grow in a way where we deserve a stock price that's fair. And when, and enough investors believe that's true, we'll put ourselves in a position where we can deliver even more growth. And that's about getting the REIT machine started again. And, and everyone's facing it. It's not peculiar to us, but-
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
No
Darrell Crate (CEO)
All we can do is talk about what we're doing each and every day to try and make that happen.
Merrill Ross (Analyst of Financial Institutions)
Right. Right, I agree. Thank you.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Thank you so much, Merrill.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Darrell Crate, Chief Executive Officer of Easterly Government Properties, for closing remarks.
Darrell Crate (CEO)
Well, great. Thank you, everyone, for joining the Easterly Government Properties first quarter 2024 conference call. We look forward to sharing meaningful updates in the coming quarters as we continue to focus on our growth trajectory and set a course to deliver premium risk-adjusted returns for our shareholders. Again, thanks for joining today, and we again stay tuned.
Operator (participant)
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.