DNOW - Earnings Call - Q2 2019

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Speaker 0

Welcome to the Second Quarter twenty nineteen Earnings Conference Call. My name is Sylvia, I'll be your operator for today's call. This time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. I will now turn the call over to Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Dave Trichinsky.

Mr. Trichinsky, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Welcome to the NOW Inc. Second quarter twenty nineteen earnings conference call. We appreciate you joining us this morning, and thank you for your interest in NOW Inc. With me today is Robert Workman, President and Chief Executive Officer. NOW Inc.

Operates primarily under the DistributionNOW and Wilson Export brands, and you'll hear us refer to DistributionNOW and DNOW, which is our New York Stock Exchange ticker symbol, during our conversation this morning. Before we begin this discussion on NALL EAC's financial results for the 2019, please note that some of the statements we make during this call, including the answers to your questions, may contain forecasts, projections, and estimates, including, but not limited to comments about our outlook for the company's business. These are forward looking statements within the meaning of The US federal securities laws based on limited information as of today, which is subject to change. They are subject to risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. No one should assume that these forward looking statements remain valid later in the quarter or later in the year.

We do not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements for any reason. In addition, this conference call contains time sensitive information that reflects management's best judgment only as of the date of the live call. I refer you to the latest forms 10 k and 10 q that NOW Inc. Has on file with the US Securities and Exchange Commission for a more detailed discussion of the major risk factors affecting our business. Further information as well as supplemental financial and operating information may be found within our earnings release, on our Investor Relations website at ir.distributionnow.com or in our filings with the SEC.

In an effort to provide investors with additional information relative to our results as determined by US GAAP, you'll note that we also disclose various non GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA excluding other costs, sometimes referred to as EBITDA net income excluding other costs, and diluted earnings per share excluding other costs. Each excludes the impact of certain other costs and therefore has not been calculated in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of each of these non GAAP financial measures to its most comparable GAAP financial measure is included in our earnings release. As of this morning, the Investor Relations section of our website contains a presentation covering our results and key takeaways for the quarter. A replay of today's call will be available on the site for the next thirty days.

We plan to file our second quarter twenty nineteen Form 10 Q today, and it will also be available on our website. Let me turn

Speaker 2

the call over to Robert. Thanks, Dave, and good morning. I want to thank each of you for taking the time to join us today. We are encouraged by our consistent year over year top line 2Q 'nineteen results, even though U. S.

And Canadian rig counts declined, and one of our largest customers activity pulled back considerably due to their large pending acquisition. Specifically, our U. S. Process solutions team was able to exceed pre acquisition second quarter twenty fourteen revenue levels back when rig count levels were nearly double the level we're seeing today by leveraging our full suite of products, broad support infrastructure throughout the major shale plays, and by bundling opportunities with U. S.

Energy centers and U. S. Supply chain services. Our cross selling of products and solutions continues to add value to our customers across a wide variety of energy and industrial products. One area of strong focus for us has been collaboration between our US energy centers, US supply chain services, and U.

S. Process solutions teams, resulting in pull through sales, new customer introductions, increased market opportunities and further market penetration. To further these efforts, we have made some recent adjustments to our sales organizations to drive top line growth, gain market share and lead DNOW strategically into the future. For the second quarter, we generated revenue of $776,000,000 a $9,000,000 sequential decline and a 1,000,000 year over year decline or essentially flat in line with our guidance. Global rig count averaged 2,181 rigs in the second quarter, a sequential decline of 4%.

Our annualized revenue per rig was 1,400,000 for the 2019. Completions were up 6% sequentially. U. S. Drilled but uncompleted wells or DUCs averaged 8,277 for 2Q, down 2% sequentially.

DUCs present a future revenue opportunity for DNOW should the wells be completed, which should drive tank battery construction and midstream gathering systems. An increase in completions and a decrease in DUCs provides us with opportunity for our wellsite kitted PVF solutions, midstream gathering products, and our U. S. Process solutions businesses production packages. WTI averaged $60 per barrel for the second quarter, gaining upward momentum from a first quarter average of $55 per barrel.

We did see WTI prices experience an upward price trend throughout the first and into the second quarter with a pullback in May and June trading in the $50 to $60 per barrel range. In the area of operations, we continue to optimize our footprint and inventory to capitalize on market opportunities as we scale to meet market demand. We have closed three locations year to date and expanded our facility footprint by adding two locations this quarter, which I will touch on later. We're starting to see working capital benefits from our newest regional distribution center, or RDC, in the Permian that was recently added to our network. The Permian RDC investment solidifies our long term commitment to customers in the Permian region while providing operations with more flexibility on inventory planning, order fulfillment strategies for staging and bundling, as well as logistics solutions for our customers.

The Permian RDC and others within our system allow us to better leverage and utilize our capital invested in inventory. These benefits combined with our employees' continued focus on optimizing inventory efficiencies assisted with our sequential inventory reduction. We will continue to create opportunities to better tune our inventory across our network to improve customer service, our inventory turns, and our return on invested capital. Since the formation of U. S.

Process Solutions in 2016, which was the result of combining the acquisitions of Odessa Pumps and Power Service, we have expanded our product offering while delivering more value to our customers for process production, measurement and fluid movement fabricated packets such as tank battery hookups, upgrades on existing batteries, pumping solutions for midstream crude, water, NGL pipelines and produced water disposal, gas measurement, lax, vapor recovery units, and ASME test and multiphase separators. I've mentioned before that we are exploring ways to expand capacity where we have production and logistic choke points both organically and inorganically to grow in these areas. Therefore, I'm pleased to announce the acquisition of a small business at the end of the second quarter with 140,000 square feet of fabrication capacity in the Houston area for our U. S. Process solutions business.

This strategic location positions the DNOW closer to our Eagle Ford, Permian, SCOOPSTACK and Gulf Coast customers. While this business historically focused on downstream ASME vessels, fractionating towers and upstream production equipment, we intend to expand its capabilities to include more packages such as LAC units, instrument air packages, produced water injection skids, and pipeline fluid transfer pump packages. Furthermore, with our proximity to the Gulf Coast, we believe this facility opens additional cross selling and bundling opportunities with our downstream and industrial business to target midstream infrastructure, LNG export terminals, chemical plants, refineries and other industrial facilities. Also during the quarter, we acquired a territorial bolt on business for our U. S.

Process solutions that provides an expansion to our exclusive territory for a key supplier, which is our pump and mechanical steel partner in certain regions. I'm excited to welcome these employees from both acquisitions to the DNOW family. We are deploying technology to enhance our quote turnaround time, customer order process, fulfillment delivery mechanisms, and pricing intelligence. To that end, we have started two significant global IT projects. One being moving our current SAP ERP to SAP's Suite on HANA platform while also moving to Google's cloud platform.

These moves will allow us to gain processing speed and enable future scalability when we need more processing power. These moves have minimal processing impact to DNOW users, so the learning curve has been virtually eliminated and it creates the ability for users to process transactions quicker for customers and suppliers. This, along with continued upgrades to our branch's network bandwidth, allows for reduced transaction times and greater customer experience. The expected completion for these projects is scheduled for 1Q twenty twenty. We've also started to migrate to a robust ecommerce solution that provides a rich customer experience by moving to SAP's Commerce Cloud solution.

This online ecommerce catalog solution will self-service options. As our market continues to grow in the ecommerce world, our scalability will be in place to be able to stay abreast of our market needs and respond quickly. Completion on this project is expected to be late twenty twenty. Additionally, we continue to proactively address demand for integrated digital services and have adopted several strategic platforms to provide cost effective, scalable, and innovative solutions. Examples of this include RFID and GPS applications with follow on document management and maintenance capabilities that complement our core business.

We're investing in the development of an order management system that will improve speed and reduce the learning curve associated with processing sales orders and purchase orders. The system will complement the power of our system while allowing users to focus on customer service. We are currently piloting the system and expect to scale to an enterprise wide order management system. We're also reviewing internal processes and looking for areas in which we can apply artificial intelligence to more accurately forecast and automate manual processes. These initiatives will further drive the expanding customer service side of our business across all units and allow our customers access to new avenues of value, cost reduction opportunities and release of trapped value.

Turning to market activity. Our U. S. Energy Center channel saw activity increase in the Southeast, Northeast and Rockies with declines in the Permian, Mid Continent, South Texas and the Western Region. We were successful during the quarter in expanding our product and service reach by securing a valves and MRO consumables agreement with Shell in the Permian and Gulf Of Mexico and a notable large long term agreement with Lucid Energy, a key Permian based midstream company.

The Delaware Basin continues to be active with a number of our customers as we supply core MRO and pipe valve and fittings, or PVF products, to drilling contractors, oil and gas operators, and midstream customers. In South Texas, we were successful in providing PVF for midstream customers for gathering and pipeline projects, as well as processing facilities that have been under construction to help absorb increased takeaway capacity from the Permian to the Gulf Coast downstream market. In the Northeast, our midstream launcher and receiver program for major midstream customers continues to bear fruit as we provide prepackaged, staged and delivery of customer PVF kits, which increases our customer supply chain efficiency and streamlines their order process. Our employees collaborate with multiple parties, including fabricators, to ensure the material is forecasted, kitted, quality documents are validated, and order fill rates meet agreed upon predetermined targets. Our line pipe business increased sequentially during the quarter due to a $9,000,000 project, which we don't expect to recur in 3Q 'nineteen.

As for U. S. Supply Chain Services or SCS, revenue was down sequentially. The decrease in revenue is attributed to one of our top customers' reduction in spending as they focus on completing a large acquisition. In the short term, this will be a headwind on U.

S. SCS revenue with this customer, but we are optimistic this may offer an opportunity to grow market share once the acquisition is closed. Activity continued with other SCS energy customers in the Delaware Basin, Powder River, Eagle Ford, and Bakken Plays. We're witnessing some SCS operators that previously constructed large multi well pad designs who are now reassessing their designs and configuring fewer wells per pad to minimize parent child well interference. USSCS operator customers' orders related to steel line pipe, valves, flowback kits, packaged production equipment, and electrical products.

We were successful in expanding product line sales of polypipe with one of our key SCS EMP operators. We also experienced increased activity from workovers along with scheduled projects on new gas compressor station construction. Regarding downstream and industrial activity, we executed on project and turnaround business involving PVF, mill, tool and safety products for major refineries and chemical plants. For U. S.

Process Solutions, we delivered significant sequential revenue improvement due to an increase in completions providing a second quarter tailwind for our U. S. Process Solutions business in the areas of the Permian, Bakken, Rockies and Eagle Ford. In the quarter, our strategy to grow market share for our fabricated process and production equipment business continues as we received orders for the full suite of our packaged equipment that were shipped to North Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Texas, New Mexico and Colorado areas. Customers range from small to large independent E and P operators and midstream companies, which represented our largest growth market sequentially for U.

S. Process solutions. Our inventory stocking program targeted for the water disposal and water management industry continues to bear fruit. For water applications, customers not only include oil and gas operators and midstream firms, but are also expanding to the growing number of standalone water management companies. We are working with manufacturers to plan and provide kitted pump solutions which offers unique value proposition to our midstream water management customers from pump packages, process and production equipment, as well as actuated valves from our U.

S. Process solutions group. We continue to make inroads as an engineered pump distributor, winning jobs in higher pressure applications in the midstream pipeline booster market for crude, natural gas liquids, and light and fluids movement for gathering lines. Our customers are relying more and more on our engineering, technical and application expertise in rotating and process equipment. As noted on previous calls, Canada remains a challenging market with egress constraints related to pipeline approvals, limits on oil tanker traffic and waters from Vancouver Island to the border of Alaska, production curtailments, volatile oil and gas commodity pricing and infrastructure approval uncertainty.

Despite the challenges in Canada, our Canadian team delivered solid revenue year over year with well spuds decreasing by 186 from ten twenty six to eight forty. Activity related to plant expansions in Sarnia tied to EPC projects helped gains as well as product line wins in PVF related sales to our MRO customers. Additional increases in activity were in fabrication and midstream project work offsetting cyclical reductions in the drilling and well completions activity. International rig count averaged eleven oh nine in the second quarter, up 8% sequentially. We believe international growth should start to materialize as more rigs are activated, service companies mobilize, and as EPCs tender more upstream oil and gas projects for facilities that are nearing award stage.

Growth in international rig count is encouraging as we are well positioned to participate in rig consumable replenishment orders when newly activated rigs deplete their international stock after deployment. International revenue contribution was led by offshore activity in The UK and Latin America. Jackup rig loadouts for new builds continued during the quarter in Asia and new rig activations occurred in Mexico. DNOW provides many of the OEM and MRO consumables used during drilling operations of an offshore rig, where we also provide an inventory replenishment model in virtual warehouses from a nearby shore based branch in close proximity to where the rig has been deployed. Middle East land activity softened resulting from the cyclical nature of projects that have been pushed to the second half of the year.

Our U. K. McClain Electrical Group has been successful in securing orders and shipping electrical products tied to oil and gas project activity in The Middle East and Former Soviet Union. Before moving on to discuss the outlook for the rest of 2019, I'll turn the call over to Dave to review the financials.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Robert. For the 2019, we generated $776,000,000 in revenue, down 1,000,000 or essentially flat compared to the same period in 2018. Sequentially, revenue declined 9,000,000 or 1%, landing well within the range we guided to in our first quarter earnings call. U. S.

Rigs declined 5% in the second quarter sequentially and when compared to the same quarter in 2018. U. S. Rigs declined an additional 4% through July 26 from the second quarter twenty nineteen average. In the second quarter, gross margins were 19.7%, down from the 20.1% level in the first quarter and down 50 basis points from 20.2% a year ago.

First half twenty nineteen gross margins were up marginally to 19.9% from 19.8% in the 2018.

Speaker 2

As we

Speaker 1

have noted, a key contributor to margin decline is hot roll coil pricing, whose decline affects our welded pipe business and negatively impacts our inventory replacement costs. On the seamless side, the OCTG market continues to weaken, leaving more mill capacity on the market to produce seamless line pipe. The result is a downward pressure on price as the market looks to turn higher cost inventory into cash at lower gross margins. The sequential decline was primarily driven by product margin pressure on steel pipe, while the year over year year over year quarter product margin decline related to high content steel products, pipe primarily and fitting and flanges secondarily. We expect gross margins to be choppy in the near term as the market reacts to reduce activity levels, oil and gas commodity prices, and more directly to observe steel price declines.

Over the last few years, we experienced meaningful product price appreciation, the primary driver for our gross margin gains. For example, gross margins were 16.4% in 4Q sixteen and grew steadily over seven of eight successive quarters by a total of more than 400 basis points to a record high of 20.5% in 4Q eighteen. For a few quarters in that timeframe, we enjoyed a period of premium product margins, which were driven primarily by pricing gains from pipe, a portion of which is the result of a favorable spread between lower inventory cost and higher replacement cost, which fueled premium product margins and provided a boost to gross margins in those periods. Now the converse is happening. Instead of a boost, we are experiencing a gross margin squeeze as the point spread between existing inventory cost, replacement cost, and selling prices narrow for steel related products.

As replacement cost stabilize, current inventory is exhausted and replaced with the now lower lower market costed items. This gross margin squeeze will relax and gross margins could grow all other things being equal. As we have discussed, we generally expect gross margin gains in in the growth environment and contrary trends in a market softening. Warehousing, selling, administrative expenses or WSA was $136,000,000 down $3,000,000 from the 2018 and below our forecasted levels as we maintained our diligence around fine tuning our model to improve the financial performance of the business. As such, when considering the locations consolidated or closed in 2018 and through the 2019, the revenue generated in those locations approximated $6,000,000 more in 2Q 'eighteen than in 2Q 'nineteen or $18,000,000 more in the 2018 versus the 2019.

While we did retain some of the revenue by servicing activity from other locations, we were able to move resources to fund growth elsewhere and improve earnings and returns on working capital. This remains a mantra for DNOW, grow the business while demanding improved operating efficiencies and working capital velocity. In the third quarter, we expect WSA to approximate a 139,000,000 per quarter as our operating expenses will expand marginally as we include the cost structure from the two new acquisitions. Operating profit was $17,000,000 or 2.2% of revenue, a decline of $1,000,000 year over year. Net income for the second quarter was $14,000,000 or $0.12 per diluted share, equaling the corresponding period of 2018.

On a non GAAP basis, EBITDA excluding other costs was $27,000,000 or 3.5% of revenue for the 2019, a decline of $2,000,000 versus the 2018. Net income excluding other costs was $10,000,000 or zero nine dollars per diluted share. Other costs after tax for the quarter included the benefit of approximately $5,000,000 from changes in the valuation allowance recorded against the company's deferred tax assets, offset by approximately $1,000,000 in other costs after tax in the period. Our effective tax rate for the three months ended June 30, as calculated for US GAAP purposes, was 5.1%. Moving to our segments, US revenues were 605,000,000, a $5,000,000 improvement in the second quarter of last year amid a decline in US rig activity.

Looking at the distribution channels, our US energy centers contributed 53%, US supply chain services 28%, and US process solutions 19% of second quarter two thousand nineteen revenue. Canadian revenues were 74,000,000, down 1,000,000 year over year. Pulling out the negative impact of foreign exchange in Canada, the revenue would have increased 2,000,000 against a 22% decline in Canadian rig count. And internationally, revenues were 97,000,000 in the second quarter twenty nineteen, down 5,000,000 from a year ago, primarily driven by unfavorable foreign exchange rate impacts. Moving on to operating profit.

The US generated operating profit of 16,000,000 or 2.6% of revenue, flat compared to the corresponding period of 2018, primarily due to a decline in gross margins, offset by reduced operating expenses. Canada operating profit was $1,000,000 or flat when compared to the corresponding period of 2018, as a result of the revenue decline mentioned earlier. International operating profit was nil or down $1,000,000 when compared to 2Q 'eighteen, driven by the revenue decline discussed above. Turning to the balance sheet. Cash totaled $80,000,000 at June 30 with $74,000,000 located outside The US.

During the 2019, we repatriated $13,000,000 from our Canadian operations to repay amounts under borrowed under our credit facility. In the quarter, we reduced our amount borrowed on our revolving credit facility by half as we ended the quarter with $62,000,000 borrowed and moved to a net cash position of $18,000,000 when considering total company cash. At June 3039, our total liquidity from our credit facility availability plus cash on hand was five eighty six million dollars Our debt to capital ratio was 5% at June 30. Working capital, excluding cash as a percent of revenue from the 2019 was just under 21%. Accounts receivable were $496,000,000 at the end of the second quarter, down $17,000,000 sequentially, improving DSOs to fifty eight days.

Second quarter inventory levels were $598,000,000 resulting in improved inventory turn rates of 4.2. Accounts payable were $336,000,000 at the end of the second quarter, with days payables outstanding unchanged sequentially at forty nine days. Net cash provided by operating activities was $69,000,000 for the second quarter with capital expenditures of approximately $3,000,000 resulting in $66,000,000 free cash flow in the quarter. We are a working capital intensive business. Our employees are focused on providing value added products and supply chain solutions by out delivering and out servicing the competition, while finding ways to meaningfully speed up collections, reduce purchase quantities and safety stock values, an aspiration enabled in this static atmosphere, and to optimize our operational footprint so that we can continue to generate free cash flow in this environment.

And now, I'll turn the call back to Robert.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Dave. Let's wrap up with the outlook for the third quarter and the rest of 2019. Looking ahead, the most recent report from the EIA showed a trend of a lower number of wells drilled, an increasing trend in completions and a slight drawdown of DUC inventory during the last quarter. With WTI trading in the mid-50s, we expect our customers to continue to exercise capital discipline and focus on operating within free cash flow generation. If completions activity grows, we could see continued benefit from our US process solutions business for modular rotating production measurement and process equipment.

This would also benefit our U. S. Supply chain services and U. S. Energy centers for demand for PVF, especially as it applies to midstream gathering projects that would be required to get oil, gas and water to their final destination.

However, general industry expectations are for softening in the 2019. And as I said earlier, one of our largest U. S. Supply chain services operator customers announced they will be closing a major acquisition in 3Q 'nineteen. This will put downward pressure on our U.

S. Supply chain services revenue for the remainder of the year as our customer continues exercising capital allocation austerity in preparation for the pending combination. In Canada, where political controversies and takeaway issues persist, the rest of 2019 will remain a challenge. As we exit the seasonal breakup period, we do expect a modest top line Canada incline. We remain cautious, however, about our Canadian operations due to the continued rig declines and political uncertainty.

Looking ahead internationally, we're seeing more rig activations, more jackup and floater tender materializing, continued increase in offshore activity in Europe and Mexico, an uptick in land based activity in Australia, and more production facilities quoting activity tied to capital projects. Recent and planned FID approvals and offshore rig contract announcements indicate that the worldwide offshore markets are poised for a long term recovery and that should produce top line improvements for our international segment in 2020 and beyond as customers work through inventories and move from exploratory to development activities. Given these scenarios and recognizing the opaque view we have into our customers' second half twenty nineteen budgetary plans, we reaffirm our original guidance for the full year to be flat revenues to low single digit percentage decline. We will continue to focus on maximizing gross margin percentage in a choppy price environment, work to improve our working capital turns, and generate positive free cash flow. Before I move on to recognize one of our dedicated employees, I'd like to summarize the progress we've made in the execution of our strategy.

We continue to optimize our footprint, focus on margin discipline in a challenging U. S. Land market, identify opportunities for enhancement in areas related to our quotation process as well as pricing, improving our operating efficiencies, further investing in technology, optimizing our inventory and sourcing strategy in response to import tariffs on steel products, reducing working capital as a percentage of revenue and leveraging our acquisitions through enhanced cross selling of products and bundled product and service offering as evidenced by generating $66,000,000 in free cash flow in the quarter. We made progress on these objectives all while simultaneously moving Dean out to a net cash position, which provides additional optionality in the event that one of the many companies we'd like to add to our differentiated product and service offering becomes viable, like the two small acquisitions we closed this quarter. With successful execution of our strategy, we expect continued improvement towards free cash flow generation and creating greater shareholder value through continued expansion and consolidation.

With that, let me recognize one of the employees whose daily hard work and dedication enable us deliver on our promises. This month, Debbie Crodafield will celebrate forty four years with DNOW. She is the cash manager in our treasury department residing in our corporate office in Houston. Debbie is a native Houstonian and upon graduation began her career with National Supply, one of the many companies that makes up the DNOW we know today as a file clerk's account in accounts payable. Debbie has contributed through various positions within the finance department through her tenure from AP, credit, payroll, and in 'one moving into the treasury department.

Debbie is always one of the first in our corporate office each morning. She looks forward to going home to her husband Frank and their three dogs, as well as watching their daughters, Heather and Michaela's dogs too. Weekends often find Debbie visiting family in Chapel Hill in Brenham, Texas, home of Bluegill ice cream. Thanks, Debbie, for your continued dedication and service to DNOW. Now let me turn the call over to Sylvia to start taking your questions.

Speaker 0

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If have a question, please press star, then one on your touch tone phone. If you wish to be removed from the queue, please press the pound sign or the hash key. And our first question comes from Steve Barger from KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Speaker 1

Good morning Good

Speaker 3

first, Robert, on customer slowdown waiting for the acquisition to close, any way to quantify what that took away from the quarter? And what do you expect for 3Q there?

Speaker 2

Yeah. I expect more of the same. There's just there's just a lot going on there. So, we had a pretty significant pullback. And I say significant.

I mean, it's in the millions, in the in that quarter, and I expect it again and again. But it's gonna be, you know, 5,000,000 to $10,000,000 a quarter.

Speaker 3

Okay. So pretty big, yes. And I just want to start with the two acquisitions. Really good to see you back in the market. Any more detail on how long it will take to bring that capacity on to support process organic growth and maybe what those acquisitions look like in terms of revenue and margin?

Speaker 2

Well, they both have a different story. The story with the one we acquired in Wyoming is that they have a particular territory that's outside of ours but adjacent to it where they distribute exclusively for Flowserve. And that's our partner in almost all of our regions on anticentrifugal pumps and mechanical seals. So being able to pull you know, some of their products into ours, for example, mechanical seals, we didn't have the mechanical seal on it, now we get it, should help grow. But it's going take, you know, a quarter or two to kind of get traction on that.

The other acquisition, you know, in Casper where we do all this construction or this fabrication, many of the facilities are assembly shops. But several of the facilities are feed shops. And so we have a facility that does nothing but skids and it feeds the final assembly shops. And we have two facilities that build spools, both carbon and stainless, and they feed the assembly shops. Well the big feed shop we have is the assembly vessel shop And it also feeds other shops.

And right now we had a choke point there because of demand. And so our delivery times were getting extended to the point that it was costing us potential future revenue because customers couldn't wait that long. And so we had to come up with a solution for it. And fortunately for us, this one presented itself and it was a lot more economical for us than doing a greenfield expansion. And the owner of that facility had already declared that business noncore and they had spent several months winding that business down.

So we're going to take us a couple of quarters to wind that business up. So I don't expect anything material from those two acquisitions in '3 and four, but we're really excited about what 2020 could hold once we get these things integrated.

Speaker 3

That sounds great. So this just furthers the the kind of thought process about being able to take more share with processes as those ramp up?

Speaker 2

Absolutely. And plus, you know, most of our current US process solutions business is all upstream and midstream. There's a little bit of downstream, but not much. This business has a great reputation with a lot of the downstream customers with fractionating towers and other things that go into chemical plants and refineries. So being able to build on that and tie it in with our downstream industrial business to try to generate the same success in that area that we have on the upstream piece with the energy centers is pretty exciting as well.

But at the end of the day, also, makes us more competitive because now logistics will cost us less to compete in the Delaware or the Midland or the Eagle Ford because we're in closer proximity.

Speaker 3

Yep. That's good. And the balance sheet is in, obviously, great shape at what's hopefully closer to a cycle bottom than not. As your team's looking at acquisitions, is the focus more on deals that plug holes in a geography or more about finding or adding to the niche product lines that you have that provide the differentiation?

Speaker 2

Yeah. Our strategy hasn't changed over the many years. We're really looking for an expansion of products and services that we can provide our customers because that benefits the rest of our business. So for example, in supply chain, we have several operators who have outsourced their procurement inventory management to us. And the more we can expand into the products that they consume regularly and add value by reducing their costs as opposed to just marking up purchases from another supplier, the more valuable we've come to them and the longer and stickier those relationships can be.

So we're really looking at high barrier to entry stuff. It's not hard to go open a branch somewhere if you're selling pipe valves and fittings or MRO supplies and all you need is a little bit of inventory and some good employees and you can start competing. To get into what we do in the process solutions business is not an overnight thing and it would require a lot of capital. So we're really looking to expand our product breadth and to acquire higher barrier to entry businesses that have accretive EBITDA margins.

Speaker 3

Got you. And then just one last one is, does integrating these two small acquisitions kind of slow down the M and A hunt? Or do you have enough bandwidth to continue looking for those things while while you go around your daily business?

Speaker 2

No. There's been no slow we didn't put anything on hold or slow down our team that does M and A. So I see that these having almost no impact on opportunities that we present themselves to allocate capital for M and A.

Speaker 3

Okay. And just one more. What's your comfort zone in terms of size for potential deals?

Speaker 2

We're really not shy about size. In fact, we prefer large over small, honestly. Because it takes resources in corporate and beyond and IT and HR and legal. It takes almost the same amount of work to complete a small deal as it does a big deal. And big deals move the needle.

It's just we haven't found one yet that we wanted to acquire where we could come to terms with what they expected for the business.

Speaker 3

Got it. Thanks. Nice job.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 0

Our next question comes from Walter Liptak from Seaport Global.

Speaker 2

Hey, Walt.

Speaker 4

Hi. Thanks. Hey. Good morning, guys. Good morning, Robert.

Wanted ask about the sales outlook for the back half. And I guess the question is, we've seen the volatility in the last few days, I guess, during the quarter around oil prices and the customers staying really tight on their budgets, cash flow. Are we underestimating what the second half could look like? Because, you know, you've got 5,000,000 to $10,000,000 per quarter, the customer, you know, rolling off plus, you know, plus this weakness. You know, what are the offsets to get the growth?

You know, we're seeing process solutions grow. It sounds like international could grow, but, you know, I'm wondering if you could help us bucket those or quantify them so we understand how the second half is gonna be flat. It's only down low single picture.

Speaker 2

Well, there's there's no doubt well, let's put it this way. If you've if you've listened to the earnings calls of all the drillers, and if you've listened to the earnings calls of all the frac companies that do the completions and you take them at their word, activity is gonna be soft. The rigs are getting stacked out and frac fleets, for the most part, are getting put in yards somewhere. So for us to deliver on our commitment for the year, we're going to have to outperform the market. Now so far, we've been outperforming the market.

We're pretty excited about it. But, you know, I I expect some shifting in our revenue in three q and four q between the groups. And, you know, I'll let Dave give you some some thoughts. But but, like, process solutions had a huge growth period or huge growth quarter. I expect them to still perform well.

But they may have some pullback because we had a lot of projects go through in 2Q. But, Nate, do want give some your thoughts on it?

Speaker 1

Yes. I'll give some kind of segment view. First of all, in terms of the outlook, I think there's we usually have a pretty good feel for the forward quarter. You know? But but this time, I think there's more unknowns than knowns.

While we're pretty confident Canada's gonna emerge from breakup and and we will grow in Canada, We may not see the kind of growth we normally see in Canada. And given the timing of projects in international, we think we'll grow sequentially in international, but that's, you know, like like Robert says, that's one of the our our lumpiest, most project oriented segments. And then in The US, US Energy is probably gonna be flattish. And Process Solutions had its best quarter since we acquired those two main acquisitions. You know, that that's one of the things we're really proudest about in the quarter is how process solutions just shine in the quarter.

We expect some correction to that in the third quarter. We we don't expect them to grow sequentially. And then finally, with supply chain, while we have some some puts and takes there, we do expect some growth there. So so some you know, The US market is is is gonna be flattish for us, and Canada and and international are gonna pull us up a little bit. But they're like I said, they are more unknowns than knowns.

So that's kinda where we're at. You know, we generally see the third quarter as our best our best quarter of the year. The third quarter this year, we we expect will be better, but it may be more on the first quarter range or maybe a little higher. So and then and then the fourth quarter, we, for the last several years, have seen a a sequential decline, and we expect that a similar decline in the fourth quarter like we, you know, customer only see.

Speaker 2

Walt, you there?

Speaker 4

Oh, sorry. Jeff, you wanna move on? I'm gonna do my Oh, there you are.

Speaker 1

I'm sorry about that. Yeah.

Speaker 4

I I just had one, one more for you. On the on the pipe cost, you know, how how are you guys doing on inventory? And and, you know, with pipe prices coming down, what's the revenue impact from that, you know, in the back half of the year?

Speaker 1

That that's a very good point because we've seen pipe prices come down quite a bit this year, and that has a double effect of it it brings down revenue levels, obviously, even if you sell the same tonnage of pipe, and it puts margin pressure on us and our competitors. So we don't know if pricing has stabilized for pipe. It doesn't seem like it has. You know, if the general market declines and if pipe prices continue, we could see downward pressure on gross margins. You know, we're trying to manage our inventory very tightly to mitigate or negate the negative impact of commodity deflation.

We're trying to price aggressively while we continue to take market share, and believe we are. But our customers are smart, and there's kind of product abundance right now. So they're going to be really looking for better cost and better priced materials. So gross margins could come under continued pressure, but we're going try to hold it like it is right now. But there are a lot of market forces that may impact that.

So that's an issue given revenues being down in the fourth quarter and flattish to up a little bit in the third quarter combined with gross margins could bring our bottom line numbers down a little bit in the second half.

Speaker 4

Got it. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Walt.

Speaker 0

Our next question comes from Chuck Minorino from Susquehanna.

Speaker 5

Hi. Good morning, guys. Just I was hoping to touch a little bit more on that gross margin path a little bit as well. I think you touched on it in the prior question a little bit. I mean, sounds like you're kind of anticipating some further deterioration there.

As you mentioned in opening remarks, you've seen as low on the gross margin side kind of back in 2016 and that 16% range kind of peaked up last year around 20.5%. Is that what you think the general range is? And I mean, do you think we could be heading back to sixteen percent? Or do you think we're more likely heading more like to an 18 number? Just kind of the scenarios that kind of get you around that range as we kind of think about forecasting that for the next couple of quarters or even the next couple of years here.

Speaker 1

Yes. The floor is much higher than 16. You know, we could be at the floor. I'm just saying that there are there are forces. You know, if you think about it, the sentiment has kind of eroded during the year.

And in the last twenty four hours, it may be may have eroded twice what it did, you know, during the whole rest of the year. So so that's just a reality we have to deal with. If things get tighter in the in the quarter and customers are buying less and there's inventory everyone's trying to offload, there'll be some downward pressure. That's not necessarily the case. If the market grows in the third quarter or our sales grow in the third quarter, we could see flatness in gross margins.

So, you know, to answer your first question, we're not anywhere close to 16%. We're gonna be in the eighteens and higher and, you know, you know, 19% probably for the year, 19 plus. But we we really don't know what kind of gross margin erosion is. Our models have pretty flat through the rest of the year, flat at the two q level. But, you know, of course, like, that's subject to change.

Speaker 2

Well and and don't forget some of the pressure is competitive, which it is what it is. But some of it's just to do the still falling steel process. So, you know, we turn our inventory four times a year plus. So you can we can work through that inventory pretty quick, and then the replenishment inventory is gonna be a lower cost inventory. So, you know, if it if if we ever have a gross margin percent this year that starts with an 18 handle, I'm gonna be super surprised.

Speaker 5

It. That's And then just a separate question. Canada in the quarter was quite a bit better than we thought. And I think, Dave, in remarks your just a little bit earlier, you kind of talked about how there might be some pressure in The U. S.

But being brought up a little bit by Canada. That sounds to me like a little bit different. I mean, I guess we were under the impression that Canada was going to be fairly weak this year. So it sounds and down quite a bit. Am I mistaken in that?

Or have things changed for you a little bit in Canada? And if so, kind of what was that? Just the 2Q numbers are pretty good, and it sounds like, at least for the year, it's going to be maybe better than you maybe were originally expecting.

Speaker 1

Yeah. Canada has shrunk two years in a row, but we're we're very much holding our own there. Rig count declined in Canada in the second quarter 22%, and our revenues are essentially flat. You know, we're we believe we're gaining market share there. And, you know, I I talked Robert and I talked a lot about process solutions being, you know, one of the stars in our in our quarterly results.

Canada is certainly up there. So we feel confident about Canada. We almost always see a third quarter emergence from breakup recovery. We expect to grow, and so that's why we expect to grow in the third quarter. We don't expect to grow at the same kind of rates we normally would into the third quarter, but we'll grow there.

So while the market's shrinking, I think we're we're taking share, and it's showing in our numbers. No doubt about it.

Speaker 5

That's great. And is the Canada business I mean, is the rig count still the best proxy for you guys there? Or are you are you selling into some other markets there that are maybe aren't as rig exposed and maybe tracking the rig count isn't quite the best way to do that?

Speaker 2

That market has got there's several pieces of market in that market. So, you know, obviously, from the from the upstream piece, we really track closer to well completion I'm not well completions, spuds and and wells drilled. Then you get into the oil sands, which is a whole another animal. And then we're really, really big into the midstream market in Canada. So there's a lot of things that affect our Canadian revenue.

Speaker 1

Yeah. I mean, rig rig counts isn't correlated like it would be in The US, but it's a it's a barometer. And and so we look at it as one on one of our kind of bellwethers for what we should be earning in terms of revenues up there.

Speaker 6

Thanks a lot, guys.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 0

Our next question comes from Nathan Jones from Stifel.

Speaker 7

Nathan. Hey, good morning. This is Adam Farley on for Nathan.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 7

I just wanted to turn back to U. S. Process Solutions. Obviously, a real good quarter, outperformed the market, and you guys are likely taking share. I was wondering if you could give an update on the turnkey solution for tank batteries.

How is it being accepted in particularly in the Permian and then maybe some of your growth expectations there?

Speaker 2

Yes. So we're gaining traction. And what I mean by that is know, we first started out, attacking these other shell plays that they have never operated in before by using the Odessa Pump's infrastructure. You know, like, we were getting tested. You know, somebody ordered 20 LAC units or somebody ordered 20 oil and gas water separators or whatever, which would go to 20 different pads instead of buying the full kit for a pad.

And then it grew, and then we had a cup we have one customer that, actually went the full enchilada and ordered everything on the well site. Loved it so much. Ordered four more. That particular customer, is having some issues right now, just with production and living within cash flow. So they've they've not reordered any more than the five.

But what we have seen is some other customers that'll that are ordering instead of you know, if there's 12 pieces of kit on a tank battery, they went from ordering one to ordering two to ordering three to ordering four. And so we're making traction there, not as fast as I want, but the order intake volume from those customers is still really high because they're ordering certain pieces of our kit to go to, like, you know, five, ten, fifteen, twenty well pads as opposed to just a single well, all the kit on the one well pad. So from a revenue perspective, it's not disappointing. Just from the check the box perspective, more customers are adopting. It's on its way there, and it's heading that direction.

And they're adding more and more kit, but we're still looking for a full adoption. And, know, we're not quite there yet.

Speaker 7

Okay. That's helpful. And then I find your comments around, midstream water pretty interesting. Produced water is likely to increase in the shale plays, and investment's probably going to be needed there to address that. Could you just talk about how that midstream water market is developing and then how DNOW directly benefits from it?

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Well, as you can imagine, if you're going be in the water business, whether you're an oil company, a midstream company, or a pure water management company, you've got to have pumps. And we have especially in the Delaware well, pretty much all the way from the Eagle Ford to the Bakken, we're the largest pump distributor in those spaces. So there's a lot of benefit there because we have high quality brands that customers want. And then the the real benefit is those pumps have to be connected with pop valves and fittings and valves and actuation. And so by bringing our process group in with our energy group and bringing the entire package, it becomes easier for that particular target customer to work with us because they have less vendors to deal with.

And we have the brands of the products they're really most interested in, which is which multiplex pumps do they want, which H pumps do they want, which anticentrifugal pumps do they want. And when you can meet that demand, the pipe valves and fittings become a secondary conversation. Whereas if you didn't have that, they would just be bidding you out on pipe valves and fittings against everybody else that has pipe valves and fittings. So it's a nice growth market for us, and I expect a lot from it.

Speaker 7

All right. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 4

You're welcome.

Speaker 0

Our next question comes from Marc Fianchi from Cowen.

Speaker 8

Hey, thanks. If I'm hearing you guys right, it sounds like you're expecting U. S. To kind of be flat in third quarter. And I was hoping you could go through the details a little bit more.

It sounded like if I kind of take what we've heard from some of the OFS companies that you talked about, HP Patterson talking about rig counts be down high single digits. I think Patterson's completion activity is down 10% in the third quarter. So is that the kind of market outlook that's underlying your expectations for flat? And then also, think there was a supply chain customer that you mentioned that slowed down. So if you could just help us kind of bridge all that, it would be great.

Speaker 1

Well, we we talked about US Energy being flattish. It it it could be up. Our u The US could be up, and US Energy is looking flattish to us because as Robert mentioned in in his opening comments, we have a a a $9,000,000 order, pipe order that won't recur. So that's that's something we'd have to overcome for for the US Energy Group to grow. We think supply chain will be up, like we said, and process solutions down.

So that's gonna be the major drivers for the quarter. Again, that that's gonna be you know, we talked about winning some new customers. Depending on the timing of when those revenues materialize, you know, that could be some uplift in the third quarter as well.

Speaker 2

Now, basically, in a declining market, which is pretty much what the drillers and the and the completion companies have stated on their earnings call the last three weeks, we're hoping to be flat or up slightly, to overcome the market. But that's gonna require share taking share like we have been.

Speaker 8

Got it. Got it. Okay. That that's really helpful, guys. Thanks.

And my second question is on just the working capital. You've done a great job here to, you know, get the ratio to sales down to below 21% this this quarter. I would suspect that you get some more working cap released throughout the back half of the year if kind of the overall is flat to down. But how do you think of it in the context of that 2020.8% that you delivered this quarter as we roll through the back half?

Speaker 1

Well, I I think we'll see similar or better working capital to revenue ratios. You know, rep we do think revenues will be down a bit in the second half. So we'll see receivable, you know, the opportunity to generate more cash from reduced receivables. Because the market is flat to down, and it's really a little bit easier to to gauge inventory skew quantity requirements, we'll be able to pull out more inventory. So so, you know, we're we're living in the space that the second half free cash flow is as good or better than the first half free cash flow.

And, you know, we always wanna get our working capital as a percent of revenue closer to 20. We're making nice progress there. So we've got, you know, all hands on deck to really accelerate the movement of working capital and liquidate as much as we can and enable us to to gain market share. So that's kind

Speaker 7

of where we're

Speaker 1

at right now.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back.

Speaker 4

You're welcome.

Speaker 0

Our next question comes from Bev Pashnav from Howard Weil.

Speaker 2

Hey, Bev. Hey, good morning.

Speaker 6

Good I guess the process I'm sorry, supply chain. I understand what you're talking about on the existing one customer, but if I'm not mistaken, you are working on getting one other large customer into supply chain. Any progress on that or either that one customer or how you think about adding more customers to your supply chain?

Speaker 2

Yeah. That's as you I think as we've discussed before, that is our longest cycle sale, because it requires a huge culture shift. In the particular customer that you're targeting, and not all customers meet that model. So if you've a smaller pool of customers that actually have all of the indications that based on their culture, their size, their facilities, their concentration in certain plays, all that stuff, it limits the customers. And we always have two or three customers that we feel like are just right around the corner, they always tend to take three months, six months, nine months, twelve months.

So we have several conversations going on. I hope that we're surprised soon with another win. But really, it's just so hard to forecast that because it takes the CEOs and the CFOs and the EVPs of ops and the VPs of procurement all to finally take the big plunge. Then again, the other four were the same way, and we got them across the finish line. So it's not impossible.

It's just a really hard sell.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. On M and A, you guys did do M and A. Can you just talk about how you are thinking going forward? Is it mostly gonna be in Permian?

Or are there more that other product lines that you can are thinking about from an M and A perspective?

Speaker 1

Yeah. So, you know, when it as it applies to

Speaker 2

The US process solutions, which is typically where we would do be doing m and a, it's it's about expanding product lines or expanding to geographies where we don't currently service. So or don't we don't have a big, presence in that particular group. So, you know, I would love to go out and do some large m and a actions with companies that would expand our product lines in that particular group, but they're hard to come by. These little bolt on deals that we're doing that carry low risk, that don't consume a lot of cash, that really we can plug them into the network and grow them rapidly because they don't have our network, that's kind of where we've been headed. But but the minute that, you know, a larger one becomes viable and, the the stars align and, you know, we our bid ask spread, you know, shrinks to zero as far as what they expect and what we're willing to pay, I couldn't get Dave to write the check quick enough.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. And maybe one modeling question. So gross margins have come down like 40 bps each of last two quarters. You guys talked about how we are seeing a softening market and more pressure on gross margins.

Any help you can say gave around like, well, should we use should we assume the similar decline in gross margins? Or how how should we think about for the thought for the next couple of quarters?

Speaker 1

Yeah. I I wouldn't assume a similar decline, although that could happen. They could be flat. I mean, it's matter, you know, on many things, who the customers are, what the product mix is, do steel prices continue to decline, are we able to quickly liquidate our over costed inventory. And, you know, I talked in my opening comments about how we've got kind of a a squeeze on margins right now because steel related products, those product costs are coming down, so our margins are squeezed there.

And as as we turn our inventory, we'll able to eliminate that squeeze and bring margins up to that element So, you know, that that's a very hard thing for us to gauge. You know, there are some headwinds like steel price declines in in a market that's kinda soft. So those those are not favorable to gross margin gains, but we're doing all we can to mitigate any further erosion in gross margins, and we'll just have to see how that plays out. Yeah.

That's probably one

Speaker 2

of the single hardest items for us to forecast because you have thousands of employees out there processing millions of transactions. We try to give them all the tools we can to help them push price. Like we have a system that helps them recommend price based on the market they're in and the replacement cost of materials and all that other stuff. So it's really difficult. Like there's several quarters in the last 12 that if you had asked, like, can you grow margins 700 or 70 basis points, I'd say no, and we went over that.

And then we had another quarter where it went up 170 basis points. I never would have forecast that. I didn't think we'd be at 19.7% right now, personally. So it's just a really hard number to forecast. But if you believe some of the pot manufacturers that have already reported, I have not found any evidence of this, but these are people who do this for a living.

They expect hot roll coil to increase throughout the rest of the year. If that does, that'll completely change our perspective on gross margin percent. So we'll see how that goes. But definitely inflation is great. Inflation sorry, deflation and a competitive slowing market is what puts the biggest squeeze on margins.

Speaker 6

That's very helpful. Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 1

Thanks. Thanks, Bebs.

Speaker 0

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of our time for the Q and A. I will now turn the call over to Robert Workman, CEO and President for closing statements.

Speaker 2

Thanks everyone for dialing in to our call today. And, thank you to all our employees who helped us put up some amazing results. And we look forward to talking to you in about three months regarding our 3Q, results. Thanks.

Speaker 0

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.