Excelerate Energy - Q3 2023

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Operator (participant)

Hello, and welcome to the Excelerate Energy Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Elliot, and I'll be coordinating your call today. If you would like to register a question during today's event, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. I'd like to hand over to Craig Hicks, Vice President of Investor Relations and ESG. The floor is yours. Please go ahead.

Craig Hicks (VP of Investor Relations)

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining Excelerate Energy's third quarter 2023 financial results call. Participating on the call today are Steven Kobos, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Dana Armstrong, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our third quarter 2023 results press release and presentation were released yesterday afternoon and can be found on our website at ir.excelerateenergy.com. I would like to remind everyone that we will be making forward-looking statements on this call that involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Our actual results may differ materially from those expressed in these forward-looking statements, and we make no obligation to update or revise them. Today's remarks will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. We have provided a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures at the back of the presentation.

Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Steven Kobos, Chief Executive Officer of Excelerate Energy.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thanks, Craig, and good morning, everyone. Today, I'm gonna talk about our financial and operational performance during the quarter, our recent commercial updates, and our growth strategy. Then I'll pass the call over to Dana, who will provide more detail on our financial results for the quarter. Let's just start by talking about who we are as a company. Excelerate Energy is a leading provider of flexible LNG infrastructure and integrated solutions. We enhance energy security for countries around the world, and we help them to transition to a clean energy future. These fundamental tenets of who we are remain unchanged. We've got a geographically diverse and resilient business model designed to deliver predictable earnings results, which is exactly what we did. Excelerate reported very strong financial results in the third quarter.

Our adjusted EBITDA came in at $107 million, and net income was close to $47 million. The results we delivered during the quarter were driven primarily by higher revenues in our core regasification business, outperformance of our gas sales contracts in Brazil, and lower than anticipated expenses across the fleet. Our FSRU and terminal services business, which is underpinned by stable, long-term contracts, is the cornerstone of our business model. It consistently generates positive cash flow and gives us the financial flexibility to execute our growth strategy. Our strong performance year to date has given us the confidence to increase our full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance to $340 million-$350 million. On November 7th, the Excelerate Board of Directors declared another $0.025 dividend per share to shareholders of record as of November 28.

In addition to delivering another quarter of strong earnings results, we optimized our near-term and long-term financial position by executing two new commercial agreements. On October 17th, we signed a 10-year contract with Petrobras to charter the FSRU Sequoia. This agreement demonstrates our commitment to help enhance Brazil's energy security. It is an important step in furthering our long-term sustainable growth plan in South America. Earlier this week, we signed a long-term LNG sale and purchase agreement, or SPA, with Petrobangla. This long-term SPA is a significant milestone for Excelerate. It represents the next phase of our plan to integrate our business in Bangladesh. On the operations front, the FSRU Excelsior completed its seasonal service at the Bahia Blanca gas port in Argentina at the end of August. Now, the Excelsior is back on hire with the German government.

It's currently at the Navantia Shipyard in Spain for customer-requested technical upgrades. Beyond that, the construction of our new build FSRU, Hull 3277 with Hyundai Heavy Industries, is making great progress and remains on track for delivery in June 2026. Finally, in October, we released our inaugural sustainability report, which highlights our 2022 global sustainability activities and environmental performance results. Excelerate has outsized importance in the global energy landscape. Around the world, geopolitical instability, including the ongoing war in Ukraine and the conflict in the Middle East, has highlighted the importance of having flexible energy infrastructure, which is capable both of mitigating the effect of unforeseen events and the intermittency of renewable energy. We are an indispensable energy company in the world we live in. In Finland, the disruption of the Balticconnector pipeline has raised serious concerns about energy security in the region.

Subsea pipeline, which connects Finland and Estonia, is expected to be out through the winter. In the meantime, Finland will continue to rely primarily on our FSRU Exemplar to meet its natural gas needs. Given the disorder that countries around the world are facing, the need for energy security and the essential services that Excelerate provides has never been greater. We believe this will be set out for decades to come. Excelerate has a legacy of using its FSRU fleet to strengthen the energy security for customers across its global footprint. As the needs of our customers change, the flexibility of our fleet allows us to offer a variety of integrated services to meet best their needs. On one hand, our FSRUs are used as cost-effective insurance for countries looking to stabilize their energy system or advance their transition to renewable energy.

On the other hand, in some markets, our FSRUs operate at close to maximum send-out regas capacity to deliver baseload natural gas supply to our customers. For example, this is how our FSRUs are used by our customers in Pakistan and Bangladesh, where future demand for LNG and natural gas is expected to be robust. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, given that the combined population of these two countries is over 400 million people. Higher utilization markets are an important part of our growth strategy. They create opportunities for long-term infrastructure uplift from LNG and gas sales through our terminals. Regardless of how our customers utilize our services, the fixed-fee revenues from our FSRUs and terminals create an exceptionally strong foundation for sustainable growth. Our recently announced long-term charter agreement with Petrobras is a great example of how valuable security of supply can be for our customers.

Last month, we signed a 10-year contract with Petrobras to charter the FSRU Sequoia to enhance Brazil's energy security and support its transition to renewable energy. Under the agreement, which will commence on January first, Excelerate will deploy the Sequoia to provide regasification services in Brazil at the Bahia Regas terminal. The deployment of the Sequoia, which is one of the most modern FSRUs in the global fleet, will help ensure the operational continuity of the Bahia terminal after the expiration of the current terminal lease agreement on December thirty-first of this year. Petrobras was one of the world's earliest adopters of FSRUs. They know the asset class extremely well. We appreciate the fact that Petrobras selected Excelerate to be their preferred partner for FSRU services in Brazil. Financially speaking, this is a great deal for Excelerate.

After purchasing the Sequoia for $265 million in Q2, we secured a long-term contract for the vessel at the high end of the range of current market rates for FSRUs. We did what we said we would do. Importantly, the deal expands our core regas business, which allows for even stronger visibility to predictable near-term and long-term cash flows. Another good example of how our flexible FSRUs are utilized is our recently announced LNG SPA with Petrobangla. Under this 15-year agreement, Petrobangla has agreed to purchase from Excelerate 0.85 million tons per annum of LNG in 2026 and 2027, and 1 million tons per annum from 2028 to 2040. The SPA volumes, which we expect to be back-to-back on the supply side, will be delivered through Excelerate's two existing FSRUs, the Excellence and the Summit LNG in Bangladesh.

Long-term LNG offtake agreements like this SPA are an essential part of our integrated growth strategy to lock in ratable economic uplift on our existing infrastructure. We are focused on optimizing our FSRU fleet and evaluating strategic investments in new assets and infrastructure to further our growth. The sustained tightness of the FSRU market should create new opportunities for Excelerate to connect LNG to downstream customers. To capitalize on these incremental opportunities, we plan to invest in additional FSRUs and LNG infrastructure that will position the company to expand our presence in markets with a growing demand for LNG. This includes regions such as Sub-Saharan Africa and countries such as India, Pakistan, Vietnam, and Bangladesh. Our Payra LNG project is a great proof point of this strategy. Payra LNG is a critical part of Bangladesh's plan to support its ever-growing economy by providing natural gas to new.

And existing customers in the southern and western regions of the country. The project scope includes an offshore FSRU LNG import terminal and a 270-kilometer, 1 billion cubic feet per day onshore pipeline to Khulna. Khulna is the country's third-largest city. We recently signed a non-binding term sheet with Petrobangla for Payra. The term sheet, which details the broad commercial parameters and framework for the deal, represents an important milestone in the development of the project. We are now positioned to advance several critical work streams for the project, including our ongoing discussions with potential equity partners and lenders, and the negotiations of the definitive agreements. In summary, we expect this focused approach to expanding our presence in markets with growing demand for LNG will result in more near-term earnings and cash flow growth while we continue to develop our longer-term organic capital projects.

With that, I'll now turn the call over to Dana.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Thanks, Steven, and good morning, everyone. We are very pleased with Excelerate's performance in the third quarter of this year. Our third quarter net income was $47 million, which is an increase of $9 million, or up 25% as compared to the prior year third quarter. As compared to the second quarter of this year, our net income was up $17 million. Our third quarter adjusted EBITDA was $107 million, an increase of $29 million, or up 37% over the prior year third quarter, and up $18 million as compared to the second quarter of this year. The year-over-year increases in net income and adjusted EBITDA were primarily driven by higher charter rates in Finland, Argentina, Brazil, and Germany, and lower operating lease expenses driven by the purchase of the Sequoia in the second quarter.

These year-over-year increases were partially offset by the end of our contract in Israel in the fourth quarter of last year. The increase in adjusted EBITDA versus last quarter was driven by higher margins on our gas sales contracts in Brazil, inflation index adjustments on certain contracts that were effective in early Q3, along with lower vessel operating costs. Excelerate continues to benefit financially from having a portfolio of stable, long-term contracts. This portfolio has been strengthened by our recent FSRU charters, which have all been contracted at higher rates that are reflective of the increased market value for the asset class. As of September 30th, our FSRU and terminal assets had roughly $3.5 billion of remaining contracted cash flows, with a weighted average remaining life of seven years.

Including the new Sequoia charter with Petrobras, signed in October, our contracted FSRU and terminal services portfolio has grown to over $4 billion of remaining contracted cash flows. Total CapEx for the third quarter was $12 million, which included $4 million of maintenance CapEx, mostly related to vessel upgrades for the FSRU Excelsior. Year to date through the third quarter, our maintenance CapEx was $16 million. On a full year basis, we expect to spend between $20-$25 million on maintenance CapEx. As previously mentioned, the FSRU Excellence is performing its planned dry dock activities this quarter. The vessel left for dry dock in early November, and we expect the vessel to return to service in Bangladesh by late December.

Because the Excellence is under a build, own, operate, transfer, or BOOT structure, the related expenses will not be classified as maintenance CapEx, but instead, the financial impact of the dry dock will be recognized through our income statement. The full effect of the dry dock on our fourth quarter EBITDA results is included in our full year guidance. Based on the strong financial results we've delivered through the third quarter, we are raising our Adjusted EBITDA guidance for 2023. For the full year, adjusted EBITDA is now expected to range between $340 million and $350 million. Excelerate is well positioned financially to execute on our focused growth strategy, and we look forward to advancing our plans to create value for our shareholders. With that, we'll open up the call for Q&A.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star followed by two. When preparing to ask your question, ensure your device is unmuted locally. First question comes from Chris Robertson with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Christopher Robertson (Equity Research Anayst)

Hey, good morning, Steven and Dana. Thanks for taking my questions, and congratulations on the really solid quarter.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thanks, Chris.

Christopher Robertson (Equity Research Anayst)

I'm not... Yes.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Appreciate it.

Christopher Robertson (Equity Research Anayst)

For sure. Sorry, I couldn't hear you guys were saying there. Yeah, I just wanted to dive down a bit further into the new Petrobras agreement. I guess how should we think about that in terms of incremental EBITDA that new contract brings, and how should we compare that with the prior arrangement that you had there versus this new agreement? Is there any kind of put and take with regards to, you know, gas sales upside? Is it primarily just fixed fee arrangement here? Just a little bit more detail would be helpful.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Yeah. Thanks, Chris. I appreciate the question. I'm going to hand it over to Dana here in a second about the EBITDA uplift, and I think once you hear from her, you'll realize. It's a great deal. It's really important to us. It's 10 years of predictable revenue, and the fact of the matter is, you know, it's better than anybody's getting in Europe. So we like Petrobras. This is the deal that Petrobras wanted to do, which is always an important consideration. You heard from Dana, with the addition of this contribution, we're over $4 billion of future contracted cash flows. But another thing that's interesting about this one, it has a CPI index every two years. So, we're really, you can model it, you know.

I know we've had some concerns about the variability in Brazil in the past with the gas sales, impact of reliance on hydropower and intermittency from that, but this is gonna be solid, solid earnings that you can model year in, year out, and we couldn't be happier. As I said in my remarks, Petrobras has been out FSRUs since the get-go, and the fact that they're counting on us for to be their exclusive, moving forward FSRU partner is fantastic. But Dana, you want to give Chris color on what we're seeing?

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Yeah, Chris, so just to add to that, to be a little bit more specific, we're expecting our EBITDA in the mid-$60 million range over the near term, and that's gonna increase over time because of CPI escalator. So it's a very solid, profitable contract for us. In fact, it's one of our—probably is our most profitable TCP that we have. So again, very excited about it. In comparison to gas sales, as Steven stated, the gas sales, as you can tell, have been lumpy over the past two years and not predictable. So even though we had great performance this year on Brazil gas sales, that's not guaranteed in the future. So we're definitely happy with this deal. Does that answer your question?

Christopher Robertson (Equity Research Anayst)

Yeah, it does. Yeah, it sounds like a good deal for you guys, and I like the predictability of the cash flows here from that. I guess moving on, on the one centered in Dubai, I was under the impression that there was an extension of one of the FSRUs there through 2030. And if you could comment on the other FSRU, the Express. I'm under the impression that it's kind of on a rolling contract basis. What's the status of the Explorer in terms of the contract extension and then how should we think about the rolling contract nature on the Express?

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Yeah. Well, thanks. Thanks, Chris. We can jump down into that. I was just in UAE a few weeks ago, that extension on Explorer, we announced that, gosh, I feel like back in January or so.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Mm-hmm. Yeah, this quarter.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

And what's telling about Explorer kind of fits into our narrative about energy security, because that was an extension off of a charter that was gonna expire in 2025. So you had somebody three years before an end date saying, "Hey, we really-- we really would like to see an extension of that through 2035." So I took it as a tell-- we took it as a tell that energy security is important. People are thinking about locking in energy security sooner than they otherwise would. And it's a critical piece of what Dubai needs for their energy mix, and, and not just, not just in the heat of summer. So we're pleased that Dubai is counting on us to ensure the integrity of their energy system, and we're pleased to continue that relationship to 2030, if not well beyond.

In terms of Express, Express is a different kind of poster child for energy security. Because the fact of the matter is, you know, ADNOC could have any asset they want in the world that has been on an evergreen for some time. I think we highlighted that back a couple of years ago, and yet they count on it. And I'm comfortable that they are not going to let go of that asset anytime soon, just because of the new world we live in. And people, people want to ensure energy security. So it's another one of those. You know, I talked about some of our markets have maximum throughput. The asset in Pakistan pushed something like 1.25% of global LNG supply to it because they've got this huge baseline need.

Abu Dhabi is just a very prudent, very sophisticated energy company, knowing they need the reliability of Excelerate's insurance in case there's any kind of disruption to a mature energy system like theirs. So, I think the need, the heightened awareness for energy security, is driving some of this. Just to clarify, the Explorer extension runs through October of 2030.

Christopher Robertson (Equity Research Anayst)

Okay. Yeah, that's helpful. Yeah, I guess the reason I was asking you on the Express was more about, from your perspective for, for optionality. Let's say, looking into these other regions, as you've highlighted, there's maybe an opportunity to go into a higher utilization market, and there's not too many of the base assets left that have, you know, charters rolling off in the near term. So I didn't know how you thought about the Express potentially going into a different market if an opportunity would arise?

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Yeah, you know, that is something we have and would discuss with ADNOC. I like that relationship, wanna maintain that relationship, for the long term. We have in the past borrowed the Express seasonally, seasonally in winter, just like we borrowed the Excelsior from the German government over the past Northern Hemisphere summer. So we're always looking at ways to find win-wins, whether that's bridging to a more permanent asset or not, and you can be sure that we're having those discussions with ADNOC.

Christopher Robertson (Equity Research Anayst)

Okay, one last question for me-

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Just as we would with every customer.

Christopher Robertson (Equity Research Anayst)

Sure. Oh, yeah. Last question from me, and I'll turn it over. Just with regards to Payra, you signed the term sheet. I guess any estimates in terms of timeline around next stage, part of the process and when there might be kind of a final investment decision there?

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Yeah. Let Dan provide a little more color, but if you think about the next milestones, this was non-binding term sheet. It certainly helped us refine a lot of aspects of this project. I mean, you would be looking for some intermediate agreements that we would announce. You'd be looking for execution of definitive agreements. You would be looking for EPC contract award. You know, we've previously announced the mandate letter we'd signed with IFC, that is now in force after this term sheet was a milestone in that mandate letter. So we'll also be moving forward under the financing arrangements with our mandated lead arranger. We're very pleased about that, but those are some of the milestones you'll be seeing come down the road.

Christopher Robertson (Equity Research Anayst)

Okay. Yeah, thanks for the color, Steven. We'll be on the lookout for those. I'll turn it over. Thank you for your time.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thanks, Chris.

Operator (participant)

We now turn to Jeremy Tonet with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.

Jeremy Tonet (Research Analyst and Managing Director)

Hi, good morning.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Morning.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Hey, Jeremy.

Jeremy Tonet (Research Analyst and Managing Director)

I just wanted to start off, if I could, with you know, any incremental thoughts you might be able to provide with regards to capital allocation strategy going forward. Seems like there's, you know, there's a lot of LNG export being built in the world, maybe not quite as much, you know, regas capacity, so it seems like there's quite the need there. You know, at the same time, I guess some of the other peers might have a higher dividend yield than what Excelerate offers right now. And so just wondering how you think about balancing these, I guess, competing priorities and overall thoughts on capital allocation?

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Jeremy, that's a great question, and it's something that we talk about and we analyze. Now, I think. And you pointed out in your question, LNG production's coming up. You're not seeing an increase correspondingly in import capacity. You're not seeing as much import capacity in some of the regions that are gonna have the highest growth on that capacity. So I wanna be clear, we are committed to growth, and we think that dry powder to fund that growth has a significant value for this at this point. But I wanna turn it over to the CFO.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Yeah. Thanks, Jeremy. So as Steven said, our priority is still growth. We, at this point in time, we're not intending to increase our dividend. We'll continue to evaluate that as we grow and as we move forward. But as of right now, we really are focused on growing the business and using that capital to fund our growth. As you know, we have a new build coming out very soon, so we'll be working on the financing around that. We are considering potentially placing an order for a second new build to fund additional growth. So that's really where our priorities are at this time.

Jeremy Tonet (Research Analyst and Managing Director)

Got it. That's helpful there. Then, you know, just speaking with investors, I guess, in the market, there, the stock price has been a bit soft, and I think there, for holders, there's been a degree of frustration there. Wondering, you know, what, I guess, steps management sees to kind of, you know, better highlight the value here or realize the value here, if there could be strategic actions that could be taken or otherwise, just kinda curious to your thoughts on that in general.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Yeah. Well, Jeremy, thank, thank you for that. I do think it is a good opportunity for investors. There's no doubt about that. I think the best thing we can do is to continue to announce. You saw just in the lead-up to this earning cycle, some critical announcements from us on things we are progressing, and we need to keep putting wins on the board. I think it's pretty simple. We do see a lot of opportunities in front of us, and obviously, some possibility involves other use of that dry powder out there in the M&A space, which we need to continue to evaluate. But the focus is on growth. We are committed to growth. We think we're putting wins on the board, and we hope we can get more attention to that fact.

Jeremy Tonet (Research Analyst and Managing Director)

Got it. That's helpful. Thanks. Just last one, if I could. As far as, you know, look into 2024, be it guidance on EBITDA CapEx or what have you, when would we expect that kind of more color on that and any high-level thoughts that you could provide incrementally there?

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

I'm gonna hand that over to Dana, lest I skip into forward-looking statements.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Yeah, and Jeremy, I'll say the same thing as Steven. At this point, we can't guide on 2024. We're working on our plan. We realize the analysts are anxious to get that out, and we'll get that out to you guys as soon as we can. But our expectation is that'll be early next year. We'll provide more information on 2024 guidance.

Jeremy Tonet (Research Analyst and Managing Director)

Got it. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Thank you.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thanks, Jeremy.

Operator (participant)

We now turn to Michael Blum with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Michael Blum (Managing Director)

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. So most of my questions have been addressed, but just had one as it relates to future markets and opportunities. You went through a bunch there that was very helpful. You talked about investing in additional FSRU LNG. Just wanted to clarify, does that mean you're looking to acquire, to build? Just trying to understand how you would approach potential future market opportunities. Thanks.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thanks, Michael. Thanks for the question. It's not going to be specific for individual markets. You know that we are bullish on the asset class in general. We believe that folks that have the energy security of FSRU have it now. Whether or not they may take long strips of LNG or not, we think it's affordable insurance and that people, once they have the security of that affordable insurance, that they're gonna be sticky. I think I made that point with you in New York last December, and that my view hasn't changed there at all. In terms of these different markets we're looking at, though, yeah, some could use incremental FSRUs, some without getting too into jargon, some could use a floating storage unit or FSU, which is more like a conventional carrier that with shore-based regas.

Some of those markets we discussed are clearly an LNG to Power play, and then some are focused on just import terminals, breaking the volumes up, distributing them. The commonality they all have is, it's infrastructure. So, we're looking at different types of infrastructure, depending upon what an individual market needs, and it's just gonna vary. But I would leave you that we remain bullish on the FSRU asset class, and though every market won't require a new FSRU, some will, and we are committed to remaining the preferred partner for countries seeking energy security, and we're gonna take the necessary steps.

Michael Blum (Managing Director)

Okay. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from Zach Van Everen with Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. Your line is open.

Zack Van Everen (Director)

Hi, all. Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to follow up on an earlier question. You know, going into 2024, sounds like a majority of the FSRUs are now under contract. I just wanted the additional color on the ability to market some of those. You mentioned it on the Express, you know, whether it's seasonality. Within those contracts, do you guys still have the ability to take advantage or help out a situation like what happened in Finland, if that were to happen going forward? Just any flexibility on current contracts to use the ships in different markets in different seasons.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thanks, Zach. That one's pretty simple. These are critical energy security for a country, so it shouldn't be surprising we don't have a call right to say, "Hey, we'd like to leave you in a lurch." This will be a bilateral discussion, but, you know, people have those bilateral discussions. We have those discussions, we've always had those discussions, and that's how we got Germany to help out Argentina this past year. In years past, we had borrowed the Express seasonally. Now, I would say it's got to be a clear defined opportunity, and it's gonna vary over time, depending upon what the near-term geopolitical risk profile is. I'm glad you mentioned Finland, though, because, for example, with the disruption of the Balticconnector pipeline between Finland and Estonia, they're not getting gas from Russia.

Probably never gonna get gas from Russia again, 'cause they have a long memory, and they can't get the pipeline from the continent. So we are providing the overwhelming majority of Finland's natural gas needs. It's a mature economy. They have a relatively small need for natural gas, but that need they have is absolutely critical to their economy, and that's a situation where I wouldn't expect anyone to let go of it. Other folks are gonna have different needs. In places with extensive hydropower, you might have visibility a full year out, reservoirs, what your needs will be. So I just want to be clear, it's a very individual discussion that we have with our customers, but we are always having those discussions, and we are looking for win-wins.

I think we've done a good job of identifying win-wins in the past, and you can count us to continue to do that.

Zack Van Everen (Director)

Perfect. I appreciate that. And one last quick one. Can you remind me of what other contracts have the CPI or inflation clauses in the contract?

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Yeah, that's one. I got to look over.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Y- yeah.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

To Dana again to see what we've disclosed here.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Hey, Zach, we have not disclosed, but it's the vast majority of our contracts that have that, and for most of those contracts, it's effective at midyear. So that's why we saw a little bit of a bump in the third quarter.

Zack Van Everen (Director)

Okay, perfect. That's all I had. Thanks, everyone.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thanks, sir.

Operator (participant)

As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad now. We now turn to Craig Shere with Tuohy Brothers. Your line is open.

Craig Shere (Director of Research)

Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions, and congratulations on a good quarter.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thank you.

Craig Shere (Director of Research)

Expanding on Michael's question, can you kind of express thoughts about your long-term interest investing in and retaining ownership of power, pipeline, or other infrastructure assets that would support LNG imports in the various markets you had mentioned?

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thanks, Craig. You know, it's all going to vary by market. But if you take a step back and look at the fundamentals into these markets, and you look at the macro fundamentals, more LNG FID is being taken, fewer people opening up the market. As we continue our success in opening up markets, I do expect there to be opportunities for uplift there. But we need to be clear, we're looking at ways to get an uplift on an already outstanding infrastructure return. We're going to keep looking at those, and it's going to depend, really you know, like I said, we did the deal that Petrobras wanted to do on Sequoia. A lot of this is going to be, what makes the most sense with that counterparty.

I know that's a basic answer, but that's where these deals come down. And though we're working with sovereigns all the time, still somebody across the table, and you need to be selling something that they want to buy, and we think they will.

Craig Shere (Director of Research)

Understood. And just, I want to dig a little more into Jeremy's 2024 question. I know that there's no guidance, but presume that there's some comparative obvious drivers, such as you have the Sequoia charter versus the robust 2023 gas margins, whether you might have ongoing seasonal Argentine deployments, and obviously, the absence of the Excellence dry docking next year. And from a top level on puts and takes, do you see these things kind of netting out, being a little more positive? Any broad thoughts?

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Yeah. I'm going to look back to Dana again on that, Craig, because I think you're asking me to undercut her answer. I'm not guiding to it, but, and you're going to have to help me, Dana. I don't really know what we've

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Yeah, apologies.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Coming to drive.

Dana Armstrong (EVP and CFO)

Craig, but we... Yeah, we still need to go through our internal processes. And you're right, I mean, all of the questions are very valid questions, but until we've sat down and really done a thorough review of all of these issues, we, we really don't feel comfortable guiding to where 2024 will, will lay out. But we'll get that to you as soon as we, as soon as we're able.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Yeah. What we can tell you, Craig, is you're going to have a lot easier time modeling it.

Craig Shere (Director of Research)

Understood. That would be nice. Looking forward to it. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

This concludes our Q&A. I'll now hand back to Steven Kobos, CEO, for closing remarks.

Steven Kobos (President and CEO)

Thank you again to everyone who joined us on today's call. As you heard this morning, we had a great quarter, and we are optimistic about our plans to maximize shareholder value. We take pride in being one of the world's premier providers of flexible LNG infrastructure and the preferred partner for countries seeking to stabilize their energy systems. We will continue to take the steps necessary to scale our business and expand our reach even further. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to reach out to Craig Hicks, our VP of Investor Relations. Thank you very much.

Operator (participant)

Ladies and gentlemen, today's call is now concluded. We'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.