Electrovaya - Earnings Call - Q1 2025
February 13, 2025
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Operator (participant)
Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, John Gibson, CFO. You may begin.
John Gibson (CFO)
Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call to discuss Electrovaya's Q1 2025 financial results. Today's call has been hosted by Dr. Raj DasGupta, CEO of Electrovaya, and myself, John Gibson, CFO. Today, Electrovaya issued a press release concerning its business highlights and financial results for the three-month period ending December 31, 2024. If you would like a copy of the release, you can access that on our website. If you'd like to view our financial statements and the management discussion and analysis, you can access those documents on the SEDAR+ website at www.sedarplus.ca or on the SEC's Edgar website at sec.gov/edgar. As with previous calls, our comments today are subject to the normal provisions relating to forward-looking information. We will provide information relating to our current views regarding market trends, including their size and potential for growth, and our competitive position within our target markets.
Although we believe that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, they do obviously involve risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements. Additional information about factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations and about material factors or assumptions applied in making forward-looking statements may be found in the company's press release announcing the Q1 fiscal 2025 results and the most recent annual information form and management discussion and analysis under risks and uncertainties, as well as in other public disclosure documents filed with Canadian security regulatory authorities and our equivalent in the U.S. Also, please note that all the numbers discussed on the call are in US dollars unless otherwise noted. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Raj.
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Thank you, John, and good evening, everyone. It is a pleasure to address you today as we discuss our Q1 fiscal year 2025 quarter. This quarter was marked by several groundbreaking milestones that underline the strength of our business and our trajectory for growth. I'll highlight a few of the key ones here. Despite the typical weaker seasonality of Q1, we delivered a strong financial performance with $11.2 million in revenue, achieving over 30% margins in our seventh consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. During the quarter, we secured a $51 million direct loan approval from the Export-Import Bank of the United States under the bank's Make More in America initiative, a pivotal step towards expanding our lithium-ion cell manufacturing in Jamestown, New York. This move will not only increase capacity but also improve margins and enable larger-scale projects.
In order to support closing conditions and support bank refinancing activities, we embarked on a successful equity raise with gross proceeds of about $12.8 million, which was led by excellent institutions with a long-term mindset. It is great to see that support, especially as it has been a difficult market for clean technology in general. Now, this equity round was sufficient to meet the requirements of EXIM and the North American banking partner we are working with, which was a key condition for both parties. Furthermore, it has led to significant strengthening of our balance sheet and financial position, which has allowed us to accelerate our Jamestown battery system assembly plans. Further on that point, we decided to accelerate our plans for battery system assembly operations at the Jamestown facility.
Similar assembly equipment that is currently used at our existing Ontario facility has been procured, some of which is already installed, and hiring key personnel is well underway. I anticipate being able to commence commercial operations by April 2025. However, we have the capability to further accelerate this if necessary. The start of assembly in Jamestown will help support ramp-up in overall production while also supporting the company's mitigation strategy with respect to potential trade barriers. Overall, I believe Electrovaya has a robust tariff mitigation strategy, portions of which are already being implemented. With regards to sales, Electrovaya continues to see good momentum from its two material handling OEM partners and end customers of its material handling products. As some of you may have noticed, Toyota Material Handling and Raymond Corporation are merging under Toyota Material Handling North America.
I believe this will ultimately be beneficial to Electrovaya as it will streamline some of our activities. A recently introduced leasing program with one of our OEM partners has demonstrated high sales interest and has already led to encouraging traction. Furthermore, the company has seen momentum growing from one of its key end customers for repowering existing warehouse infrastructure with Electrovaya batteries. Also, a positive sign is our current largest operator of battery equipment, a Fortune 100 retailer, who has indicated renewed demand for Electrovaya products. We are seeing increasing activity in other sectors and are on track to ship our first modules to a global construction OEM in Japan later this quarter. In Japan, we've had a flurry of interest through our partnership with Sumitomo Corporation with other prospective OEMs, which I believe some of which will turn into material contracts.
There are also a number of projects in development for autonomous vehicle applications, which includes everything from warehousing products to defense vehicles. Our high-voltage battery products continue to be seeded in a wide variety of potential applications. Our solid-state developments continue to make progress. Today, we have pouch cell cycling consistently to over 200 cycles. We have achieved a proof of concept for scalable manufacturing of solid-state separators, and our current focus is on increasing the scale of manufacturing processes and optimizing the cell chemistry. By far, our highest near-term priority remains ensuring that the Jamestown facility is financed to produce our world-beating lithium-ion battery products. We are currently in the process of finalizing loan documentation with both EXIM and a leading North American bank for their respective financing packages to support both the Jamestown expansion as well as improve the company's overall working capital position.
There has been substantial progress, and I would say most of the documentation is substantially advanced. We continue to anticipate closing these facilities almost simultaneously and during the current quarter. With that, I'd like to pass the call back to John Gibson, who will go into the financial results in more detail.
John Gibson (CFO)
Thanks, Raj. Revenue for Q1 2025 was $11.2 million compared to $12.1 million in Q1 2024, with the decrease being due to delivery timing rather than production or order volume. Q1 is, as in the past, affected by seasonal shutdowns from our customers, with little to no deliveries made in the last two weeks of the quarter. The company also had approximately $1 million of finished goods awaiting shipment at the end of the quarter. As we previously stated, we had $20 million of orders pushed out of the 2024 fiscal year as a result of customer delays. However, I'm happy to say that we have started to ship those orders during this quarter and will continue throughout Q2 and Q3. We also continue to move closer to our break-even point of $50 million and maintain our 2025 revenue guidance with a ramp-up beginning in Q2 2025.
Gross margin for the quarter was 30.5%, an increase on the prior quarter figure of 29.2%. Battery system margin was slightly higher at 30.8% for the year. Gross margins will vary based on product mix and timing, and management is focused on maintaining strong margins throughout 2025 and beyond. Although our operating loss slightly increased year over year, it is important to note that the company had approximately $340,000 of non-recurring operating expenses in the quarter, with no corresponding expenses in the prior year. This obviously has a material impact on our operating profit. Our adjusted EBITDA was $0.5 million, which is flat to the prior year. We have now recorded seven consecutive quarters of positive adjusted EBITDA. This gives us a strong capability to continue our growth plans and support operations going forward.
Overall, net loss for the quarter was $0.4 million compared to $0.2 million in the prior year. Were it not for the one-off costs mentioned, then we would have been close to break-even for this quarter. The company generated positive cash flow provided by operation activities of $1 million and negative net changes in working capital of $1.2 million compared to overall positive cash flow from operations of $0.5 million in the prior year. The company ended Q1 2025 with positive net working capital of $12.6 million compared to negative net working capital of $0.4 million in the prior year. This demonstrates the continued improved financial and operational performance of the company, and management is committed to continuing this positive trend. At December 31, 2024, total debt was $15.3 million compared to $18.4 million in the prior year.
Management continues to manage cash conservatively, and as Raj mentioned, we are close to refinancing our working capital facility, which will reduce our overall financing costs and provide us with additional working capital headroom as we increase production in 2025. We believe we have adequate liquidity to support our anticipated growth for the fiscal year. That concludes the financial overview. I'll turn the call over to Raj for concluding remarks.
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Thank you, John. In closing, Electrovaya has started fiscal year 2025 on the right note. Our technology is industry-leading, and the general focus globally, and especially in the U.S. on domestic manufacturing, works to our favor. Electrovaya, in my opinion, has never been in a better position for success. That concludes our remarks this evening. John and I would now be pleased to hold a question-and-answer session.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Once again, please press star one if you have a question or a comment. Our first question comes from Daniel Magner with Raymond James. Please proceed.
Daniel Magner (Analyst)
Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my call today. Just a few questions from my end. Sounds like existing facilities, rather than new builds, are becoming more of an opportunity for at least one customer. Do you expect other customers to follow suit?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. Existing facilities represent a larger opportunity size. This particular customer started out using our technology in new facilities. They saw the benefits in those facilities and made a strategic decision to start implementing our technology across their existing infrastructure. That was a great thing to see. We expect to see some more of that with other major end customers, and that's really our strategy. They get to see the product sometimes when they're making new investments, and they see those benefits, and then they expand that to existing infrastructure. Definitely a good sign, something we'd like to see more of, and that's something I would expect to see more of in the coming years.
Daniel Magner (Analyst)
Got it. I guess in discussions with customers, any indication that the current U.S. administration's policies will potentially lead to delays in orders?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
We haven't seen that at all thus far. I think the policies have provided some anxiety with respect to potential price increases, but beyond that, no. In fact, I'd say that some customers are trying to get their orders in sooner in fear that prices might go up.
Daniel Magner (Analyst)
Got it. All right. Thanks. I'll jump back and thank you.
Operator (participant)
The next question comes from Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed.
Eric Stine (Stock Analyst)
Hi, Raj. Hi, John. Here. Hey. Just on the EXIM Bank loan, can you talk about steps left to finalize it? Maybe it's simply you're almost there, and you've just got the last few things to tie up. That would be first. Just curious, there's obviously a lot of noise around the new administration and funding, and I know that's primarily the infrastructure bill and the IRA, but just wondering level of confidence in closing this loan against the current political backdrop.
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. On your first question, I'd say in terms of conditions precedent and things like that, we've already met those. We're at the point where it's essentially working out the loan documents. Now, there are two banks involved. There's EXIM, and there's a large North American bank who handles the working capital side of things. The two banks have to work together. There's an intercreditor. All those documents are lengthy and need a lot of lawyers to get through. We're well underway on that process. Like I said in the call, we expect that to be fully closed this quarter. Making very good progress there. On your second question, both John and I were in Washington fairly recently. EXIM is, I would say, not affected by some of those changes you mentioned, and we see no reason to be worried about closing this.
Overall, this project of ours fits perfectly with the new administration's goals, right? It's manufacturing in the United States, bringing that manufacturing back from overseas. It's a strategic product. The EXIM portion that we're in is called Make More in America, which is something I think the new administration would have named themselves. I think we're in a good position.
Eric Stine (Stock Analyst)
Okay. It's good color. Maybe just turning to Sumitomo, you mentioned a, I think your quote, a flurry of interest in that. I mean, I'm just curious, is that interest in a like product, so in construction equipment, or is that for other applications? And if so, what are those applications?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Most of the interest is coming from the construction space. While we had already signed up last year with this global construction OEM in Japan, and that was through Sumitomo, there is a second one we are very close to closing. There are a few others actually we are in discussions with. In Japan, as you may know, there are quite a few large OEMs in the construction space that are based there. Great progress overall. We are shipping our first modules to Japan this quarter.
John Gibson (CFO)
Got it. That's right. Okay. Perfect. Last one for me, I know you reiterated the guide in Q1. It was, I think, pretty aligned with what your expectation was. Can you just remind us of kind of linearity of revenues or expectations throughout the remainder of fiscal 2025?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. It should be onwards and upwards. This current quarter, we've ramped up assembly. We're also getting ready to put that into Jamestown. I would say every quarter you should see some, we're expecting to see growth quarter to quarter.
Eric Stine (Stock Analyst)
Okay. Pretty gradual. I mean, kind of spread nicely, or is there a quarter where you, based on where backlog is today, you think there could be a step up?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
I think each quarter is probably going to be a step up from the previous one.
Eric Stine (Stock Analyst)
Okay. All right. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
The next question comes from Craig Irwin with Roth Capital. Please proceed.
Craig Irwin (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Hi. Good evening. Thanks for taking my questions. Raj, can you maybe give us an update on the new markets where you're going to see important deliveries this year that kind of lay the foundation for growth over the next couple of years? I mean, you've talked about mining, robotics, rail, military, and other opportunities. What's changed, or maybe what's the update that you can share with us at this point?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. Craig, great question. It is a smorgasbord of opportunities. These are what I would call seeding opportunities, which go into it takes time for new products to go into scale. An OEM customer will take roughly two years to scale something up. We're in a lot of places, as you mentioned, robotics, where we're building modules and packs specifically for various partners.
We've seen repeat orders recently from AGV OEM that we hadn't seen orders from for quite a long time. That's positive. Like you said, mining, construction, electric trucks are a topic that's come up again, and defense. What we're seeing is, I would say, these opportunities are heating up, partly because we added some staff in the U.S. on the sales front, but I would say partly potentially because our competition is not doing too well. We're seeing some opportunities coming up from probably OEM customers who are looking to switch suppliers.
Craig Irwin (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Understood. Understood. You've had some new products that you've been talking about for a while, and I know you've been testing those with different customers, and they're sort of at the early stages of rollout. Can you maybe talk about how these high-power products are expanding your opportunity for this year?
Do you expect them to make a material contribution to mix, and are they important for serving these customers that historically used another supplier?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. I'd say the primary goal with these opportunities is to ramp up our demand really 2026 onwards. In fiscal 2025, they are going to, we are seeing revenue generated from some of these opportunities, but still pales in comparison to the material handling revenue. What we'd like to see is by 2026, 2027, it really becomes a very diverse pool of applications we're in. We're very confident we're going to see that based on the progress we've seen in some of these opportunities, which are still too early really to delve into in much detail. Like I said, they span everything from defense, from trucks, from AGVs, etc. It's a great long list of applications.
Craig Irwin (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Great. Last question, if I may. Can you maybe describe for us the process you went through with EXIM to bring the supply chain to North America? Can you maybe talk about your selection of anode and cathode suppliers, other materials used in the battery manufacturing, other equipment used in the battery manufacturing, and how sort of North American-centric this is? Has the financing for Jamestown from EXIM and the improved visibility on that facility, has that changed customer conversations in North America and maybe led to a different character or volume of discussions with these important U.S. and Canadian customers?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. Our main objective with EXIM and Jamestown in particular is to make a domestically produced lithium-ion cell with Electrovaya technology and also to diversify our supply chain and get to that fundamentally to have a fully North American base.
It's going to go in stages. I think first we're going to rely on some supply chains from Korea and Japan. As time goes on, more and more will be domestic. From the get-go, we will not be reliant on anything from the PRC, and that was one of the goals with EXIM. That includes the manufacturing equipment as well. That's what we're heading towards. We've qualified those materials over the last almost a year. We're well on our way on that process. To your second point, most definitely that domestic manufacturing and our exciting technology as well is bringing in interest from parties who are specifically looking for that. Just last week, we got approached by another large defense contractor, and that's an opportunity that we were not expecting.
These are the types of things that we could see more of, especially after things start moving more substantially in Jamestown.
Craig Irwin (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Excellent. Congratulations on the progress there. I'll hop back in the queue.
Operator (participant)
The next question comes from Jeffrey Campbell with Seaport Research Partners. Please proceed.
Jeffrey Campbell (Senior Analyst)
Thank you. Congratulations on a good quarter. Raj, you're guiding 2025 revenues to exceed $60 million. Just high level, what part or parts of the business might represent upside to that estimate, and maybe what aspects might put that estimate at risk?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
I'd say everything could provide upside, especially the material handling space. The $60 million is a conservative figure where actually, if you read our FYI, it's sort of broken down in there. It could most definitely go up. We're pretty early into the fiscal year still. I would say next quarter will provide some more granularity to that guidance. At this point, we just want to remain pretty buttoned up and conservative. There are lots of opportunities that could move the needle.
Jeffrey Campbell (Senior Analyst)
Okay. Good. We'll stay tuned for that. The press release noted growing rental traction through an OEM. Two questions there. One, is it reasonable to assume that some of this new traction includes a new customer mix that's more sensitive to upfront capital costs? The other, in contrast, why is one of your largest customers choosing rentals for its existing warehouses instead of just buying new batteries as they would for a greenfield unit?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
It was not referring to rentals. It was leasing. If you think about our two OEM partners, there is Raymond and there is Toyota Material Handling, and now they are coming under the same umbrella, where they already are under the same umbrella, but even more so. What we find is there is a certain segment of customer which prefers to lease equipment, and that type of customer typically has not used our products because they are more expensive. With this higher residual value leasing, which is worked out in partnership with the OEM, taking into account historical performance of the batteries, the cycle life, the reliability, the warranty rates, etc., and with all that, came up with a pretty strong financial package to provide to customers. That has been a very successful program. It is very new.
It was launched in late October, and it's already generated with that particular OEM more business for us than all of last year.
Jeffrey Campbell (Senior Analyst)
If I understand it, what we might say here is that this particular customer, left to their own devices, might have just leased equipment from the get-go, but they tried your equipment out in the greenfield space and presumably had to pay for it because there was not a leasing package then. They liked it. In the meantime, Toyota Raymond and Electrovaya put together a package for leasing that they really like, and that might be what they would have preferred to begin with. You are seeing the result of a strong leasing response. Is that kind of the way to think of it?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. I'd say you're pretty close. If you think about who uses this equipment, there's the big retailers who are our bread and butter currently. They generally know what they're looking for. They're looking at lifecycle costs. They want the best battery, and they take our battery. There are third-party logistics companies who are operating facilities for other parties. They're looking for five-year contracts, and the leasing model works extremely well for those types of customers. That's what we're seeing, this new traction.
Jeffrey Campbell (Senior Analyst)
Okay. Yeah. That's really helpful. My last question is kind of turning the tariff question around. Is there any fear that retaliatory tariffs, say, in Japan or elsewhere in Asia, might slow down Electrovaya's ability to export into that region?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
We don't think so. We'll see. Tariffs make a lot of news. Thus far, there hasn't really been anything there. We'll wait to see what happens.
Jeffrey Campbell (Senior Analyst)
Okay. All right. Thanks very much. I appreciate it.
Operator (participant)
Up next is Jeff Grampp with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed, Jeff.
Jeff Grampp (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Good evening, guys. Curious on the EXIM loan. The timing of closing that, I'm understanding it's hopefully in the next 45-60 days, but does the timing of that closing have any effect positively or negatively with respect to the timelines to operationalize either the system or cell manufacturing operations at Jamestown, or are those largely independent events in a sense?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. I'd say they're independent events. We've already started placing the longest lead time orders on equipment. So they're independent events.
Jeff Grampp (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Okay. Great. Great. My follow-up on the acceleration of the timeline to do the systems in Jamestown, pretty clear the benefits to the extent there's any tariffs or trade-related kind of macro issues to deal with. Are there any business-specific reasons outside of trade that it makes sense to accelerate into Jamestown? Can you hit on kind of the business-specific operational benefits, synergies, things of that nature? That'd be helpful. Thanks.
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. On the business side, we're trying to build up a team in Jamestown who will ultimately be building battery packs, battery modules, and battery cells. The sooner that team gets familiar with making battery systems, the better. We're taking this as a good opportunity to get that started and in place. The second reason is capacity. We're seeing growth in demand, and it makes sense instead of having another shift in Mississauga, start a fresh shift in Jamestown. Overall, it's a no-brainer. You get out of your comfort zone a little bit. You got to train a new team and add in more equipment, but something we would do anyway.
John Gibson (CFO)
We also have a number of grants and tax incentives available to us in Jamestown, so we're trying to utilize those sooner rather than later.
Jeff Grampp (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Understood. Just a related one to sneak in, is the main accelerant a human capital solution? I mean, is it basically hiring and training is the main bottleneck, if you will, in terms of how fast you can accelerate startup there, or what other factors are at play?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
That's the main one. The equipment, a lot of it's already been installed now. The team there, the head of operations in Jamestown, is extremely familiar with assembly of our batteries already. He has to train the rest of the team that he's hiring. There will be a lot of people going back and forth from Ontario to New York to enable that training.
Jeff Grampp (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Got it. Perfect. Thank you, guys, for the time. Appreciate it.
Operator (participant)
Once again, if you have a question or a comment, please press star one. The next question comes from Amit Dayal with HC Wainwright. Please proceed.
Amit Dayal (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Thank you. With respect to the solid-state batteries, guys, is any of this in the hands of customers who may be testing it, or is it still in the lab?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
It's still in the lab. We've refrained from sending it to customers just yet because we believe there's some more optimization to be done. Overall, I'm pleased with the progress the team has made. The cells are looking good. The technology fundamentally is good. It does require some iterative work, which takes time, and we want to make sure we get it right.
Amit Dayal (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Understood. With respect to storage-related opportunities, it seemed like in prior calls you had mentioned there were some promising opportunities that were being cultivated. Has any of that materialized, or can we expect any of that to materialize in this fiscal year?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yes. There is one project that we're looking to have materialize this fiscal year. Currently, we're working out the details with an integration partner who's a large utility company or part of a large utility company. We are working that out and also have to provide the end customer with a fully fledged proposal.
Amit Dayal (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay. This is part of the.
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
There is interest for our products in that space. It's a market which I believe is still very price-sensitive overall, and hence we've been a little reticent to go after it in a big way, but it's being driven by some of our key end customers who want to see this product.
Amit Dayal (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay. Understood. Jamestown capacity, Raj, can you remind us what the capacity is and how you're planning to ramp operations there?
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Yeah. In dollar terms, roughly, we'd say a $200 million capacity-ish, give or take. In terms of timeline, we'll start battery system assembly in April. We'll start the cell production, which is a capital-intensive piece, in mid-2026. The timeline has not changed from our last call.
Amit Dayal (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay. Yeah. That's all I have, guys. Thank you.
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
Thanks a lot, Amit.
Operator (participant)
Okay. We've reached the end of the question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.
Rajshekar DasGupta (CEO)
That concludes our call, and thank you all for listening. We look forward to speaking again after we report our second quarter 2025 results. Have a wonderful evening.