Evergy - Earnings Call - Q3 2020

Transcript

Speaker 0

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Q3 twenty twenty Evergy Inc. Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any additional noise until the question and answer session. I'll now turn the call over to your host, the Vice President, Corporate Planning, Investor Relations and Treasurer, Lori Wright. Ma'am, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Jesse. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Evergy's third quarter call. Thank you for joining us this morning. Today's discussion will include forward looking information. Slide two and the disclosure in our SEC filings contain a list of some of the factors that could cause future results to differ materially from our expectations and include additional information on non GAAP financial measures.

The releases issued this morning along with today's webcast slides and supplemental financial information for the quarter are available on the main page of our website at investors.evergy.com. On the call today, we have Terry Bassam, Evergy's President and Chief Executive Officer and Tony Soma, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Other members of management are with us and will be available during the question and answer portion of the call. I will now turn the call over to Terry.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Lorty, and good morning, everybody. I'll begin my comments on Slide five. So today, we reported third quarter GAAP earnings of $1.6 per share compared to $1.56 per share earned in the third quarter of twenty nineteen. Adjusted earnings per share were $1.73 in the third quarter twenty twenty compared to $1.57 in the same period a year ago. Third quarter results were driven by significant cost reductions, an increase in weather normalized demand and fewer shares outstanding, partially offset by unfavorable weather.

Year to date, GAAP earnings per share were $2.49 and in line with $2.49 in the same period last year. Adjusted EPS were $2.82 this year compared to $2.55 a year ago. Throughout the year, we've managed costs to withstand a number of headwinds, including the impacts of the global pandemic, unfavorable weather and less than planned COLI proceeds. Our solid execution has resulted in our ability to deliver a great quarter and gives us confidence in the outlook for the year. Reflecting our strong performance, we are nearing our 2020 adjusted EPS guidance range to $2.95 to $3.1 by raising the low end.

Additionally, dividends are important part of our total return story. You can see from our press release, the Board increased the dividend 6%, which underscores their confidence in our execution of the Sustainability Transformation Plan or what we refer to as STP. Again, this was a great quarter and I commend our team for the outstanding execution in these tough times. In addition to the over 3,000 dedicated employees in our frontline operations, power plants and other areas, we continue to have over 2,000 employees working remotely and will continue to do so into 2021. I'm proud of the resiliency and adaptability our team has displayed in dealing with the challenges brought forth by this pandemic.

Before I update you on our STP process, let me touch on the CEO search process. After announcing my retirement in August, our Board formed a CEO search committee to find the right leader to execute our STP. The search committee is currently interviewing quality internal and external candidates. And just know that the process is ongoing and we still expect to have someone named by the end of the year. Now turning to Slide six.

As we have discussed before, the Strategic Review and Operations Committee and our entire Board evaluated our new high performance STP against other strategic alternatives available. The results were unequivocally and unanimously clear that our high performance STP was the most valuable plan. It enhances value through infrastructure investment, cost reductions, while balancing the interest of customers, shareholders and communities. Our STP is focused on three core objectives: maximizing long term value for our shareholders serving the best interest of our customers, employees and communities and continuing to advance our progress as a forward thinking sustainable energy company. Consistent with these objectives, our team has already began execution on these priorities set out in the STP.

Our operations planning team is a clear line of sight into our incremental 2021 grid modernization plans, which include new projects that will develop a more flexible grid to enhance customer reliability. Our increased focus on substation and grid communication upgrades will overhaul aged equipment with modern technology and controls that will benefit our customers and communities for years to come. We've also invested considerable time and effort into robust stakeholder engagement to ensure our constituents fully understand the STP. Some of this engagement has taken place within the structured IRP process. We've also been working with stakeholders outside of the IRP framework by developing a schedule for STP workshops to educate and gather feedback from our regulatory commissioners and our important stakeholders.

Additionally, we have been identifying metrics that we plan to use to track our success executing the STP. There are relevant indicators around cost reductions, including both non fuel and fuel as well as tracking infrastructure investments by category that we will periodically update you on throughout the year. We will use these and potentially other metrics as we pursue highly strategic, value focused approach to display a transparent track record of execution, accountability and results. Now looking at Slide seven. Part of the vision within the SDP is advocating for enabling energy policies that promote reliable and clean energy within our states.

While the legislative sessions won't kick off until after the first of the year, that hasn't slowed us down from engaging with interested parties on potential legislation. Through this dialogue, our confidence has grown in the clear desire across a diverse stakeholder base to enact long term energy policies that will move Kansas and Missouri forward. While there are many solutions to deal with, remaining net investment in fossil plants being considered for retirement, securitization is one that can be more economical for customers. As a result, securitization is a topic that has come up in both states and we will be discussed in the twenty twenty one sessions. Robust stakeholder engagement process around our upcoming IRPs is also well underway.

While these discussions are not public, the feedback we've been receiving has been constructive. We'll continue to meet with the parties in these dockets over the coming months to discuss modeling scenarios and get feedback on preferred plans. We will file the Missouri IRP by April 1 and the Kansas IRP by July 1. I'll now move to the regulatory front beginning with an update on the KCC docket related to concerns about our agreements with Elliott Management. The Commission ordered this docket be closed, affirming that we had met all of our obligations in that docket and any remaining issues be handled in the KCC's STP docket.

Kansas STP review docket parties met throughout October to discuss scheduled proposals, and we expect a filing soon to propose a jointly developed procedural schedule to the Commission. It's likely the docket will extend into the middle of next year to allow for full stakeholder feedback. Turning to Missouri. In October, the MPSC staff requested commission and the commission granted an extension for their STP report to 01/29/2021. This allows staff more time to study our plan and receive any updates or further develop details that could be meaningful to the report.

As a reminder, we don't expect the commission to take specific action regarding the STP in either of those dockets. The main purpose is to gather information on and review our STP and and ensure our continued resolve in meeting previous merger commitments, while providing a forum and repository for stakeholder feedback. Lastly, let me touch on our COVID-nineteen accounting authority order request. In Kansas, the commission approved our request to track expenses and lost revenue associated with COVID-nineteen. In Missouri, we reached a non unanimous settlement with the MPSC staff and many other interveners last month, which request the commission issue an order that authorizes us to track and defer incremental costs caused by the pandemic.

Hearings on the matter are scheduled for mid November, and we expect a commission order in January. We realize this has been a hard time for our customers and communities. Last month, we wrapped up our hometown economic recovery program, which awarded grants totaling $800,000 to nonprofit agencies. The goal of this program is to help our communities build back their local economies by retaining and attracting new business, developing workforces and supporting small businesses. This was all part of our largest to date focused charity investment, which we announced in May and committed $2,200,000 from our foundation to help agencies, customers and communities respond to and recover from the COVID-nineteen pandemic.

Let me wrap up on Slide eight before handing it over to Tony. Our STP creates a compelling value proposition for shareholders and is predicated upon a proven track record of achieving cost reductions and executing on infrastructure investment, both of which provide tremendous value to customers while keeping rates affordable. Our capital plan is traditional, straightforward infrastructure investment strategy that is diverse across our service territories without large project risk. Combination of our competitive targeted six to 8% EPS CAGR through 2024 and an attractive dividend growth profile offers a compelling value proposition. The STP focuses on not only grid modernization, but also accelerating the transition of our generation portfolio, resulting in greener, more reliable, affordable energy for our customers and line of sight to continued earnings growth and value creation for Evergy's shareholders.

While we already provide carbon free energy equivalent to around 50% of our retail energy demand, our remaining coal fleet provides a significant opportunity to further decarbonize and enhance our environmental profile. The policy enablers we're pushing, pursuing would allow us to leverage the remaining plant value of our coal fleet to reduce capital costs and upon retirement, eliminate fuel and maintenance expense. This will allow us to add modern generation capacity with renewable investment over time. These circumstances when paired with our prime geographic location, near attractive wind and solar potential, make us uniquely positioned to execute a decarbonization strategy that would create significant cost savings for customers. We have an exciting opportunity in front of us and that is a true win win scenario to keep rates competitive while growing sustainable rate base that will be value enhancing for our customers, communities and shareholders.

Our execution has produced another strong quarter and great results year to date. We're very excited about the momentum of our plan and the long term prospects to deliver significant value to customers and attractive returns for our shareholders. I'll now turn the call over to Tony.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Terry, and good morning, everyone. I'll start with Slide 10. We reported third quarter twenty twenty GAAP earnings of 1.6 per share compared to $1.56 per share in the third quarter of twenty nineteen. Adjusted non GAAP earnings increased $0.16 to $1.73 per share compared to $1.57 per share in the same period a year ago. As shown in the chart on slide 10, EPS was driven higher primarily due to lower O and M expense and fewer shares outstanding, partially offset by lower gross margin driven by unfavorable weather.

For the $0.10 of other margin, we estimate about half of that is due to increase in weather normalized demand with positive residential demand being partially offset by lower commercial and industrial demand. Additionally, there's another $02 from our energy efficiency programs. The $04 of other for the quarter is primarily due to the timing of when income tax benefits for tax credits and other tax items are recognized. Turning to weather compared to last year normal, we estimate weather reduced earnings by $0.17 and $08 respectively. Now on slide 11, I'll touch on year to date results.

Year to date GAAP earnings were $567,000,000 or $2.49 per share compared to $6.00 $6,000,000 or $2.49 per share for the same period last year. Adjusted earnings were $642,000,000 or $2.82 per share compared to year to date 2019 adjusted earnings of $621,000,000 or $2.55 per share. Primary drivers compared to last year include our significant cost reduction efforts and fewer shares outstanding, partially offset by lower sales primarily due to unfavorable weather, higher depreciation expense and an increase in interest expense. In the third quarter, we reduced our adjusted O and M by $41,000,000 and year to date by $103,000,000 Some of the cost savings we experienced year to date relate to the prudent deferral of planned outages from early in the year to the fourth quarter as we monitor the impacts of the pandemic. Additionally, we sent some of our employees and contractors to help other utilities deal with storms, which has resulted in being a little behind in our tree trimming and line maintenance versus our plan.

We will do some catch up work on these items in the fourth quarter. And as a result, while we plan to hit our 2020 O and M target spend levels, we also expect less favorability in O and M in the fourth quarter compared to last year. We continue to see the industrial logic of our merger coming to fruition And by the end of this year, we expect to surpass $300,000,000 of cumulative net merger savings. Efficiencies are being realized across the business units through attrition, voluntary exit programs, leveraging the size and scale of our business and implementing technology solutions. Turning to weather, we estimate weather year to date through the third quarter has been $0.18 unfavorable compared to last year and around $08 unfavorable when compared to normal.

On slide 12, let me update you on trends we're seeing with COVID-nineteen sales impacts. As we stated on our second quarter call, commercial and industrial sales declined significantly during April when businesses were shut down and improved in May and June as the economy opened. At the time, we were expecting a slow and steady recovery through the remainder of the year. And fortunately, that's exactly what we've experienced throughout the summer. We're still seeing commercial and industrial sales.

We're still seeing lower commercial and industrial sales, but there was an encouraging trend throughout the quarter as we continue to experience elevated residential sales that mostly offset C and I degradation. It's hard to say how this trend will play out for the remainder of the year, but many schools implementing a hybrid approach and folks continue to work from home absent a widespread shutdown of businesses, we could continue to see residential sales help offset the lower C and I sales. Even though we've seen waves of the virus, our state and local economies have been fairly resilient thus far. For the third quarter, our estimated weather normalized total retail sales were up about 1% compared to the same period last year. Residential sales were up roughly 7%, while our commercial and industrial sales both declined about 3%.

We remain optimistic and realize there are still many unknowns with the coronavirus, particularly whether there will be further impact during the overlap of the flu season, wrapping up with an outlook for the remainder of this year and into next year. As you can see on slide 13, we've updated some of our earnings drivers in addition to narrowing our EPS guidance range by raising the low end. Absent a large setback with COVID-nineteen, we're expecting to continue to see a slow and steady recovery through the end of the year. As I mentioned previously, we expect to incur some of the costs that were deferred from earlier this year. And with that in mind, we expect cost savings to be less of a driver for the fourth quarter and we've narrowed our annual adjusted O and M target to 8% to 10% lower than 2019.

Our guidance includes $20,000,000 of COLI proceeds. That's worth pointing out that we had only received $4,000,000 through the October. Our forecasted annual effective tax rate remains at 13% to 15%. I will note that our effective tax rate in the 2019 was extremely low due to the amortization of excess deferred income taxes and a return to a rate closer to our 2020 guidance range is something to consider for this year. Moving to Slide 14 with 2021 considerations and preliminary drivers.

Absent resurgence of COVID-nineteen, we expect weather normalized sales growth in 2021 compared to 2020. And we'll continue to monitor the lingering impacts of COVID-nineteen through the winter months to inform more specific annual guidance for 2021. We have significantly reduced nonfuel O and M over the last two years and we expect to maintain momentum as we begin implementing the STP identified savings. Our original merger savings plans were outlined through 2022 as we layered on incremental savings opportunities through our STP work, we identified and extended these efforts through 2024. As part of the STP, our team has created charters to detail these savings opportunities and we are viewing 2021 as a year to implement newly identified STP savings initiatives.

We are confident in our ability to remain on plan for cost reductions in 2021 to reaffirm our long term target of reducing nonfuel O and M by $210,000,000 from 2019 through 2024. We expect capital deployment increases by around $150,000,000 with all the year over year growth coming from transmission and distribution segment. We plan to spend over $400,000,000 more in T and D, while our investment in the generation and general and other segments will be reduced by around two eighty million dollars The identified additional FERC investment will be reflected in our 2021 formula rate update, which we currently estimate will increase transmission revenue requirement by around $30,000,000 Obviously, as expected with a larger capital plan in 2021, we expect to see higher depreciation expense of around 30,000,000 to $35,000,000 even considering the favorable depreciation treatment for PISA qualified projects in Missouri. Now COLI programs are difficult to predict. We expect to include a placeholder for 2021 that is in line with our current 2020 guidance.

Lastly, we're forecasting an effective tax rate in the 11% to 13% range. The effective tax rate will be driven from the lower state income tax exemption for electric utilities in Kansas starting in 2021, which will be offset with lower retail revenues as the savings is passed through to customers. We remain confident in our target of long term six to 8% EPS CAGR. And as we've mentioned previously, in the early years, including 2021, earnings are expected to be towards the bottom end of our range. We are very confident in our ability to deploy capital, finance that capital and stay on track for the long term cost reduction targets.

The pandemic does create some lingering uncertainty with sales, so we continue to monitor trends and plan to issue formal EPS guidance and updated drivers on our year end call in February. I'll now turn the call back to Terry.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you, Tony. And with that, I'll turn it over to Jesse. We're ready to take questions.

Speaker 0

Thank you, speakers. Participants, we will now begin the question and answer session. First question is from the line of Shar Pourreza. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Good morning, guys.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Shar. How are you? Good morning.

Speaker 5

Oh, not too bad. Not too bad. So just two quick questions here. Just on the timing of the IRP and sort of the STP dockets, curious like how do you sort of formulate these IRPs mid next year if the STP dockets are continuing into next year? So are you going to have enough feedback there to file these IRPs?

So how do you sort of bridge the timing between the SDP conclusions and the IRPs? I have to imagine what you find from the SDP process will provide a guidepost for the IRPs. So just curious how do we bridge the timing gaps there?

Speaker 2

Well, actually, I would kind of think about it the other way around. The STP is an overlay, and will include the IRP findings. And so the IRP is a very specific process with interveners who are participating in-depth and those will help us to add to, if you will, the long term future of our generation profile. The STP, as you know, is highly focused on the front end of those of the plan with T and D and other investment, which is very traditional and not as involved in the IRP process. Does that make sense?

Speaker 5

It does. It does.

Speaker 2

Is in general a long term generation planning process.

Speaker 5

Got it. And sorry, Terry, what was the timing on the Missouri, outcome for the process for the STP?

Speaker 2

It's filed in April, April 1 and Kansas in July.

Speaker 5

Got it. And then just lastly, any updates on sort of the Elliott information sharing agreement? Has that lapsed? Where is that sort of at?

Speaker 2

Yes. The agreement terminated by its own terms earlier this week, and we're no longer any under any agreements with Elliott since its termination.

Speaker 4

Was is there anything you

Speaker 5

can update us that came about from that agreement? Because you're still searching for the CEO, right, whether it's internal or external. So what actually came out of that agreement?

Speaker 2

Well, the agreement as a whole was the basis for our entire process that created the STP, kind of the back end extension, if you will, was for the opportunity to participate under the information sharing part of that during that time period. Again, the trip period is run, the agreement is run and there's nothing else in place.

Speaker 5

Excellent. All right. Well, thanks so much guys. Have a good morning.

Speaker 2

Thank you. You too.

Speaker 0

Next question is from the line of Julien JULIEN Dumoulin Smith. SMITH:] Your line is now

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning. It's Darius Losnay on for Julien here. Just wanted to ask briefly about O and M reductions. You guys, as you mentioned in your remarks, reduced the high end of the 2020 cuts from 11% to 10%. How should we think about that in the context of 2021?

Obviously, you've got the longer range reduction baked in there through 2024. But should we think of maybe the longer range target as more front end loaded given that presumably there may be some savings from 2020 that go into 2021?

Speaker 3

Well, good morning. This is Tony. We're still going through the finishing up our planning process for 2021, which is why we didn't really give specific driver on O and M just yet. I think what we've shown in 2020 and prior years, this sets the table quite well for 2021 and years beyond for our ability to push towards that number of $210,000,000 lower nonfuel O and M starting from '19.

Speaker 2

We did discuss a little bit, I think, about the overlap between what was traditionally or originally the merger savings in which now the STP provides us with additional O and M savings that we're just starting to charter and ramp up. So there's kind of an overlap of that process in 2021 happening as well.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you. And just one more if I may and shifting gears a little bit to the prospect of securitization, which you also mentioned in your remarks. Is there anything in either Kansas or Missouri that we should be looking out for as far as milestones in a lame duck session potentially in calendar 2020? Or is that entirely a 2021 item?

Speaker 2

No. Well, I would say in terms of seeing or hearing things, would be a 2021 item. Lot of work's going on, lot of conversations are going on. There'll be a lot of things that are happening between the interested parties leading up to the beginning of the year, but they wouldn't be that visible. It'll basically be a 21 item I think, what you're talking about perspective.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 0

Next question is from the line of Paul Patterson. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Paul. How are you?

Speaker 6

I'm managing. So first of all, on the STP, I know you guys are having discussions and stuff. What would you say are the biggest concerns or topics that are sort of that are front of center people's minds that you're encountering with respect to the STP?

Speaker 2

I think the top concern is always going to be the effect on rates, the effect on customers. So we believe the STP balances that, provides for the ability to use traditional investment to improve reliability and bring in technology without large increases to rates. But certainly that will always be their focus is can we execute and will it ultimately have an impact on cost, which we think we're able to show has been considered upfront and tied in quite nicely.

Speaker 6

Okay. And then with to the cost, could you remind me what the expected rate trajectory that you guys have with respect to just rates in general that you have in Kansas and Missouri? What is the as I recall, was kind of 2% or something, am I correct?

Speaker 2

Yes, CAGR of about 2%, that's right.

Speaker 6

Okay. And then I guess the second one is sort of a procedural question or sort of a there's sort of an unusual thing going on in Kansas with the STP and this effort to get Elliott as a required party by the industrial customers. I guess some other people sort of agree with that. And I understand where you guys are completely coming from procedurally. I understand sort of the arguments I've read.

And I can completely understand why you guys don't think that's a great idea, the presidential issue, etcetera. What I'm a little bit confused though would be, because this is kind of new, at least I can't recall this sort of coming up before ever. What would be the practical or would there be a practical impact or something? In other words, if this were if the kick I assume it hasn't been ruled on yet. At least I haven't seen anything.

I guess my question is if in fact the kick proposal or motion was accepted, what would it practically mean on the ground? Would it just be sort of a procedural headache Or would it be or is there anything more that we should think about with respect to its potential ramifications?

Speaker 2

Yes, I would say first, yes, you've read our brief, you understand this is not appropriate and don't believe it should be approved. Practically, if it were, and I couldn't tell you everything that might come from it, but practically what I would tell you is it shouldn't have a large effect either. If you've read our brief, you would understand that we came to an agreement with a shareholder around how to evaluate issues. But in the end, the fiduciary duties and the work around the STP and the final decisions were all ours and we made those. We were happy that when we announced the STP that Elliott was supportive.

But to suggest that they've somehow taken some level of responsibility for our fiduciary duty, seems to be the argument, is just simply not true. And if they granted some kind of ability to evaluate that, that's exactly what they'll find. So it's not appropriate, but even if they rule, they wouldn't find anything other than what we've been saying, is, you know, we work with the shareholder to evaluate opportunities. But the board and management of this company made the decisions around how to move forward and we're confident in their outcomes and that was our job. And we've done it done it well I believe.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thanks so much.

Speaker 4

You

Speaker 0

Next question is from Michael Lapides. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Thank you for taking my question and congrats on a great quarter and a lot of progress and change underway this year. Just in terms of thinking about the legislative requests or some of the things you're going to seek. I mean, obviously, you guys talk a lot about securitization. But how should we think about other potential asks, that could influence or revise, I guess, the rate making process in either Kansas or Missouri to help reduce lag?

Speaker 2

I've got Chuck Casey, who is our Chief Customer Officer and leads at Everett. Why don't I have him talk a few minute about those options? Chuck?

Speaker 8

So what I would say is obviously securitization helps us look at retiring the fossil assets that we have. But as important as securitization, I think is making sure that anything we do does minimize any lag that might be created. And so specifically, we're looking at aspects that would or provisions within legislation that would allow us to have some certainty around the reinvestment of the proceeds as well as smoothing the timing of gaining the proceeds from the securitized assets as well as the reinvestment. So it wouldn't be subject a situation where you take something out of rate base, but then it's a year or two until you're able to realize the benefit of the reinvestment. And then finally, think it's just important to remember that in Missouri, we have to maintain and be able to maintain our plant and service accounting or PISA authorization.

Speaker 7

Got it. But is there anything you can do to help I mean, think about both jurisdictions. Both jurisdictions still have historical test years. PISA helps, but PISA has caps and PISA is not cash. Is there anything you can do that's or it's limited in the amount of cash rate increases?

Is there anything you can do legislatively and seek to move from a largely historical test year format for generation and distribution investment in both states to something that's more of either has trackers or has a full multiyear forward looking component to it? Yes. I mean, I

Speaker 8

think there are multiple potential possibilities, as you suggest there. I think the real trick will be to to find the right combination that is passable in both legislatures. And with respect to securitization, those issues are known, fairly well understood and have significant coalitions built around them. I think when you start talking about what some parties may consider fundamentally altering the historical structure of the regulatory process, You could get into some more pushback and we're really interested in moving this legislative package forward. But again, are multiple things that have been discussed in the past from performance based rates to decoupling and things like that, that and then various riders and trackers that can be looked at.

Speaker 7

Got it. And then one last 2020 kind of guidance question and this is probably for Tony. You've recognized very little COLI so far, but you maintain the $20,000,000 of COLI in your 2020 guidance where it's what November 5 right now. Is there something that and it's a little difficult to ask, I guess, is there something you've seen that gives you conviction in that $20,000,000 being realized? Or is that just kind of your normal annual placeholder for that?

Speaker 3

Michael, I think this is kind of a normal annual placeholder. And there's obviously a couple of things we looked at when we looked at our guidance this year and particularly having three really good quarters behind us and looking at what we've been able to achieve on our cost savings. We were just pointing that out as that could be a potential headwind, but we have levers obviously that we feel comfortable with to narrow the range now at $2.95 to $3.10.

Speaker 7

Got it. Thank you, Tony. Thanks guys. Much appreciated.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Michael. Thank you.

Speaker 0

Next question is from Durgesh Chopra. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Hey, good morning team. Thank you for taking my question. Just going back to the STP, so as I understand it, right, and I think you said this in your prepared remarks, no official approval from the two states. How should we like what should we be watching for in terms of milestones here, Terry and Tony, between now and your rate cases and towards the latter of your five year plan to keep track of things and to sort of ensure that things are moving along from a regulatory perspective?

Speaker 2

Well, okay, you said regulatory perspective at the end. So again, we'll be talking to you about our process and execution on the STP because again, remember these dockets are for information. There's no request for approvals. There's no large projects that require approvals. So we'll be updating you on our execution on the capital and the O and M, etcetera.

From a regulatory perspective, I think the big ones are that obviously we'll have an IRP in the spring that April, Missouri will be the first cater, the STP will be working over the top of that. There is I think a January, late January date now for the Missouri staff to file a report. So that will be worth watching. But again, the report out should be commentary if you will or, you know, views of the STP, but not a ruling, you know, for anything or against anything. So again, as we've said before, this is not typical, maybe, but it does give us the ability to work with parties and have some insight into our plan and into the work we're doing.

So we think it gives us a lot of opportunity to, do some groundwork ahead of time so that regulators see exactly what we're doing and get buy in from that perspective. And if there are some concerns, we'll hear that. But again, I think we feel good about the process that's been discussed and the integration between that and the IRP, I think will work very nicely.

Speaker 9

Got it. So it's mid to late next year is when we would hear when we would see some commentary from the two state commissions?

Speaker 2

Probably more like midyear. Yes, probably late summer after the IRP in both states have been filed.

Speaker 9

Excellent. And then just quick follow-up on securitization. Just can you confirm that in your current five year plan, right, obviously is a huge long term opportunity. But in the current five year plan, there's like maybe one or two projects that sort of you would require securitization for? And what are those plants that you would require securitization for?

Speaker 10

Hey, Durgesh, this is Kevin. So within the STP, we've assumed one generic plant retirement of about 500 megawatts. So you can compare that to some of the size of the plants within our current mix. But again, it's in the out years of the plan. It's generic.

We want to make sure we keep it clean so we can go through our IRP process. And again, it would be one of our smaller units. So the impact from a securitization perspective is pretty modest. We really think about securitization as the potential to accelerate more retirements into the five year window. So a pretty modest impact on

Speaker 2

the STP, but doesn't decrease our intensity of pursuing the enabling policy change as Chuck mentioned. And remember, we've talked about that our work on even a longer term T and D perspective, if that got delayed a year or was something that wasn't as timely, we've got the ability to backfill that CapEx plan with additional work that we already have a vision toward. So it should keep us in a position of having a consistent growth rate that we've talked about through the full five years.

Speaker 9

Understood. Appreciate the color guys. Thanks so much and a really, really strong quarter. Good job. Thank Thank

Speaker 2

you.

Speaker 0

Next question is from the line of Steve Fleishman. Your line is now open.

Speaker 11

Hey, good morning.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Good morning.

Speaker 11

Hey, Terry. So just I guess first question is just from with legislation in focus. I'm curious if there were any changes that occurred politically with the elections in your states this week just to kind of give a framework for that or everything pretty much Yes. The

Speaker 2

Nothing material that would affect our discussions. Governor in Missouri was reelected or elected, I guess, for the first time, Governor Parsons. And remember the governor in Kansas was not up for reelection. Other Other other elections went consistent with what we would expect and nothing really surprising.

Speaker 11

Okay. And then going back to the question on the Elliott standstill agreement ending, have they indicated at all what their intentions are from here in terms of just ownership of the stock or any strategic stuff?

Speaker 2

No, we talk with shareholders all the time and we'll continue to be in communication with Elliott from time to time, I'm sure, but nothing specific.

Speaker 11

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Steve. Appreciate it.

Speaker 0

Next question is from the line of Kevin Fallon. Your line is now open.

Speaker 12

Good morning. I just wanted to follow on the STP that is effectively the process here that there is no formal approval or anything like that at the end. It's just kind of like foreshadowing on how the future rate cases are going to go? Or is there a potential to maybe settle something or get some higher level of like prudency determined?

Speaker 2

So yes, I mean, if we had not been in a very public discussion around the Elliott agreement, then I would suspect just like back in February, year end call, when we announced a shift in additional capital at the conclusion of our stock buyback program, we didn't have a docket. We didn't have a process and our announcement didn't require approvals. That's no different here. But obviously, as a result of all that, we sit in a process where we have the ability both through the IRP and the STP to get input and then IRP requires a filing. To your point, there won't be a prudency ask or a prudency finding in the STP.

We don't have any large projects that would require that kind of pre approval. What we do think though to your point is that we will be able to see people's views of the plan as a whole and kind of how that works in the context again of cost to our customers. And we think that's a benefit. But we wouldn't see we don't believe any kind of preapproval or prudency determination on the plan given the way it's structured.

Speaker 12

That's very helpful. And just a clarification, the review process that the Board underwent as part of the Elliott process earlier, does that mean that you guys have formally ruled out M and A as a future path to pursue and that the strategic or the STP is the not just the preferred, it is the way that you're going to go forward and M and A is off the table? Or is it less definitive than that?

Speaker 2

Well, our Board of Directors and our company will always do our fiduciary duty with regard to any proposal or any process that would provide shareholder value greater than our current plan. Having said that, we went through a very deliberate, very exhaustive process back in the summer that's just a few months old and we are very much committed to our STP and we're working to execute on that as we

Speaker 12

Okay. That's very clear. And then just last and kind of an accounting question. It looked like there was a big step up in other revenues in the quarter, which I just wasn't sure what drove that.

Speaker 3

This is Tony. Some of that was due to the energy efficiency initiatives that we had compensated for. And then as well as we've had some increased weather normalized demand, think that I talked about in the

Speaker 2

script. Okay. Yeah, it's MEA. MEA is the program. MEA is the acronym.

MEA acronym in Missouri.

Speaker 12

And there's some offset to that in the O and M line? Or is that all just margin to the bottom line?

Speaker 3

On MEA there is offset on the O and M, but there are some performance incentives and throughput incentives that do not have a cost associated with them.

Speaker 12

Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Thank you. You're welcome.

Speaker 0

No further questions on queue. Mr. Basham, you may proceed.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Well, thank you, everybody, and obviously look forward to talking to many of you next week at EEI Financial, even though not in person. Look forward to the conversation. So thank you much. See may I have you next week.

Speaker 0

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