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Evergy - Earnings Call - Q4 2019

March 2, 2020

Transcript

Speaker 0

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Fourth Quarter twenty nineteen Efrigi Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants' lines are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Lori Wright, Vice President, Corporate Planning, Investor Relations and Treasurer.

Please go ahead, ma'am.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Catherine. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Evergy's fourth quarter call. Thank you for joining us this morning. Today's discussion will include forward looking information. Slide two and the disclosure in our SEC filings contain a list of some of the factors that could cause future results to differ materially from our expectations and include additional information on non GAAP financial measures.

We issued our fourth quarter earnings release and twenty nineteen ten ks earlier this morning. These items are available along with today's webcast slides and supplemental financial information for the quarter on the main page of our website at evergyinc.com. On the call today, we have Terry Bassam, president and chief executive officer, and Tony Soma, executive vice president and chief financial officer. Other members of management are with us and will be available during the question and answer portion of the call. As summarized on slide three, Harry will recap the year and provide a strategic business update.

Tony will update you on the details of our latest financial results and twenty twenty drivers. With that, I'll hand the call to Terry.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Lori, and good morning, everybody. Let's start on Slide five. We reported full year GAAP earnings of $2.79 per share compared to $2.5 per share earned in 2018. Adjusted earnings per share were $2.89 in 2019 compared to $2.54 per share a year ago. The favorable results were driven by reducing operating expenses, fewer shares outstanding and rate case outcomes, partially offset by higher depreciation and unfavorable weather.

Our ability to overcome headwinds and execute our merger plan, particularly through the disciplined cost management, allowed us to deliver consistently throughout the year. 2019 was successful on many fronts. Let me touch on few of the highlights. We exceeded our 2019 net merger savings target of $110,000,000 ending the year at $150,000,000 or 36% above target and drove our adjusted O and M down over 9% on a year over year basis. We raised our dividend by 6.3 to an indicated annual rate of $2.2 per share.

We executed our capital allocation plan by investing $1,200,000,000 in infrastructure to maintain customer liability as well as continued our share repurchase program that was announced as part of our merger plan. We returned almost $2,100,000,000 in capital to our shareholders with $1,600,000,000 coming through share repurchases and another $463,000,000 in the form of dividends. We elected plant and service accounting or PISA in Missouri and initiated infrastructure spending that is incentivized by the legislation. We rebranded our operating utilities to provide consistency across our service territory, and now all customers across Kansas and Missouri know us as Evergy. We advanced our long standing commitment to environmental stewardship and announced a new carbon reduction commitment that will reduce CO2 emissions 80% by 2050 from 2005 levels.

We maintained our strong customer reliability metrics. And lastly and importantly, we continue to build the Evergy culture by staying true to our four core values of safety, integrity, ownership, and adaptability. I want to thank our entire team for their continued focus and teamwork on these accomplishments. Now looking at Slide six. As discussed on our third quarter earnings call in November, we have been evaluating additional capital investment opportunities and believe that there were significant additional infrastructure investment opportunities in Missouri.

With a full year of post merger capital planning under our belts, we've used a rigorous allocation process to identify and prioritize projects that enhance grid reliability while reducing operations and maintenance expense. As a result of our work, we are announcing $1,500,000,000 of incremental infrastructure spending opportunities through 2024 in areas including renewable generation and grid modernization. This raises our five year CapEx plan from $6,100,000,000 to $7,600,000,000 With PISA enacted in Missouri, which is designed to encourage enhanced infrastructure investment, majority of the incremental spend or approximately $1,000,000,000 will be directed towards PISA qualified projects. This update to our capital plan will increase our rate base growth to 3% to 4% over this period relative to our prior guidance of 2% to 3%. This enables us to undertake critical investments that will improve the service we provide to our customers while also delivering what we believe is a more attractive and balanced growth profile for our shareholders.

With the increased capital investment, we have elected to halt the remainder of our share repurchase program. As of the end of twenty nineteen, we had completed 75% of our repurchase program, repurchasing 45,000,000 of the 60,000,000 share authorization. Halting the final 15,000,000 shares is expected to be credit positive and creates balance sheet capacity to make infrastructure investment. I want to reiterate that our overall objective of targeting competitive shareholder returns, maintaining reliability and keeping customer rates competitive has not changed. We believe our updated capital allocation strategy will drive greater benefits for our customers and communities from enhanced reliability and grid resiliency while aligning with Missouri's initiative of building infrastructure and creating jobs.

This is a true win win across the board. Moving on to slide seven, I'll update you on our merger savings. A large part of our merger thesis was built upon leveraging the synergies of neighboring service territories and creating value for all shareholders. At the time of our merger, both legacy companies had room for improvement from a cost perspective. Our progress thus far has already surpassed our original benchmarking.

As I mentioned earlier, we've exceeded our estimated $20.19 dollars 110,000,000 original net merger savings target by 36%, and we'll continue to focus on overachieving these original targets which were established during our merger regulatory proceeding. We've identified additional opportunities for performance improvement. We evaluated our benchmarking performance in 2018 and now have 2019 results. This has yielded a positive trend in our cost performance as we've seen a significant decline in our costs, particularly when adjusting for costs that were a result of the merger. To maintain the momentum of our positive cost trajectory, we'll continue to focus on opportunities to streamline, automate, digitize, and otherwise enhance our processes and performance execution.

While the merger provided a platform for synergies, our intensity around cost management remains paramount as evidenced by our expected 5% to 8% OEM reduction in 2020.

Speaker 3

We continue to execute on

Speaker 2

the opportunities that were identified in the merger, and we'll continue to focus on future cost reduction opportunities. Our team is engaged in ongoing continuous improvement to drive value for our stakeholders through aggressive cost management. Now looking at Slide eight. Beyond our strong financial and operations results, we're continuing our focus on being good stewards of the environment. We've already reduced carbon emissions by 45% from the 2,005 levels.

And as we announced on our third quarter call, we expect to achieve at least 80% carbon reduction through natural retirements. However, we'll continue to evaluate and consider additional opportunities to execute on these plans sooner, if possible and appropriate. As part of providing energy to customers, we're continuously looking for new ways to make renewable energy available. As you may have seen in our recent press release, we've contracted 660 megawatts of wind to fulfill large commercial and industrial customer demand on new special green tariffs that we worked hard to put in place during our 2018 rate cases. The four announced wind farms, which were originally identified through the RFP process, conducted right after our merger in late twenty eighteen, will be added via purchase power agreement consistent with the tariffs in Missouri and Kansas.

Again, as evidenced by our carbon target, we will continuously decarbonize our generation mix, consistent with providing reliable and affordable service to our customers, and currently have included $500,000,000 of rate based renewables in our five year plan. Our next triennial IRP filing in both Kansas and Missouri is scheduled for 2021. This will be our first blown filing as Evergy as well as our first time filing in Kansas. The green tariffs are an important economic development tool that our team has been marketing in order to retain top customers and attract large customers that otherwise may not locate in our service territory.

Speaker 4

Before I turn it

Speaker 2

over to Tony, I'd like to discuss the agreement we announced this morning with Elliott Management. As part of the agreement, Paul Keglivik, former Chief Executive Officer of Energy Future Holdings and Kirk Andrews, current Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of NRG Energy, have been appointed to the board as new independent directors. At the time of the twenty twenty Annual Meeting of Shareholders in May, the size of the board will be reduced to 13 directors following the retirement of four current Evergy directors. We will provide additional information regarding the 13 directors who will stand for election at the twenty twenty annual meeting in our proxy in the coming weeks. Further, we're forming a strategic review and operations committee.

I will be on the committee along with Art Stahl, Paul Keglevic, and Kirk Andrews. The committee will explore ways to enhance shareholder value. The committee plans to complete its review and make up any relevant recommendations to the Evergy Board in the first half of twenty twenty. Given the mandate of the Strategic Review and Operations Committee, we will hold off on issuing current year and long term earnings guidance while the committee conducts its review. While we expect to provide comprehensive updated guidance at the conclusion of the committee's work, we'll provide more details today regarding some of our expected 2020 drivers, including the enhanced capital plan.

We welcome the new directors and the vast experience they bring in the utility and power industry to support the work we have underway, enhance long term shareholder value, and serve our customers, communities, and employees. And Elliott recognizes our commitment to serve the best interest of all Evergy stakeholders. We have an exciting opportunity in front of us as we look to build upon the momentum we've created since the merger closed in June, and we look forward to executing on the plan. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Tony.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Terry, and good morning, everyone. I'll start with results on Slide 10 of the presentation. This morning, we reported fourth quarter twenty nineteen GAAP earnings of $0.28 per share compared to $07 per share in the fourth quarter of twenty eighteen. The increase in EPS is primarily due to lower O and M, lower shares outstanding, and tax benefits from higher amortization of accumulated deferred income taxes, which were partially offset by higher depreciation expense. Adjusted non GAAP earnings were $0.32 per share compared to $0.15 per share in the same period a year ago.

As shown in the chart on slide 11, adjusted EPS was driven primarily by fewer shares outstanding and lower O and M and was partially offset by unfavorable weather and higher depreciation expense. For the quarter, residential sales were down 3%, while commercial and industrial sales fell 11.8%, respectively. Lower sales in the quarter were primarily due to weather, which we estimate negatively impacted earnings by $04 compared to last year and about $0 when compared to normal. Moving on to Slide 12, I'll touch on full year results. For the year, GAAP earnings were $670,000,000 or $2.79 per share compared to $536,000,000 or 2.5 per share last year.

2019 GAAP results were driven by the full year impact of Evergy Metro and Evergy Missouri West results and lower operating and maintenance expenses, partially offset by higher depreciation expense and lower retail sales driven by unfavorable weather compared to 2018. Adjusted earnings were $694,000,000 or $2.89 per share compared to 2018 adjusted earnings of $681,000,000 or 2.5 per share. As detailed on the slide, the increase in adjusted earnings when compared to last year was primarily driven by a reduction in O and M of about $120,000,000 a decrease of more than 9%, new retail rates, and accretion from fewer shares outstanding. Partially offsetting this increase was higher depreciation expense of around $84,000,000 and lower sales due to less favorable weather. The 2019 weather impact was less favorable than 2018, and pro form a retail sales declined as a result.

Residential sales fell 4.3, and commercial sales were down 1.7%. We estimate weather cost is 22¢ when compared to last year, but with a benefit of about 10¢ when compared to normal. Pro form a industrial sales were down 8% compared to last year due primarily to two large customers in the chemical and oil sectors that saw decreased demand at their plants throughout the year. If we remove the impact of these two large low margin customers, industrial sales were up 20 basis points. Overall growth in the number of customers continued, making the ninth straight year of customer growth for our company.

Moving on to Slide 13, let me touch on our latest financing activities. As Terry mentioned, we have ceased future share repurchases given our identification of incremental capital projects that drive value for customers. Since initiating the program in August, we have repurchased just over 45,000,000 shares. This program was put in place to rebalance the consolidated capital structure and was a key driver of EPS growth on the front end of our merger plan as we've been working through our rates payout period. Looking forward to financing activities this year, Evergy Central Kansas has $250,000,000 of five point one percent first mortgage bonds maturing in July that we'll look to refinance.

We expect this will be the only long term debt financing activity in 2020. Wrapping up on slide 14, let me give some details on our 2020 drivers. As Terry mentioned, we're not issuing 2020 EPS guidance today. I'd like to provide you with a few drivers for the year. Consistent with 2019, we're expecting weather normalized sales to be between flat and 50 basis points of growth.

On the back of strong O and M cost performance in 2019, we're targeting an additional 5% to 8% reduction in adjusted o and m in 2020. Our continued infrastructure spending will drive depreciation and amortization expense $10,000,000.20000000 dollars higher. We're expecting COLI proceeds to be approximately $20,000,000. We're forecasting an effective income tax rate of 12 to 14%. And lastly, our year end 2019 share count was 227,000,000 shares.

We remain confident in the opportunities in front of us. Our team will keep our eye on the ball and running the business while the strategic review and operations committee conducts its evaluation. With that, I will turn the call back over to Terry.

Speaker 2

Okay. We'll open up the line for questions.

Speaker 0

Thank you. And our first question comes from Shar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning, guys.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 5

So just a couple of questions here. With the strategic or operational review results, know, 1H twenty twenty seems like a very quick turnaround. Any incremental, Terry, you can provide as far as what you're thinking? Obviously, given this quick turnaround, I have to assume you have some sort of a sense on where things are heading. And just on the word strategic, could that mean that Evergy looks at further consolidation?

Or is that kind of off the table? And I have a follow-up.

Speaker 2

Yes. No, not to predetermine what the committee would come up with. I would say that the focus is on all things that could improve long term shareholder value. So those can include several things. And we would expect to review those.

I think the idea was to do that quickly, so to be efficient, and to get those done in a way that makes sense for all parties. So looking forward to the work, looking forward to working with our two new directors on it. And we would be look forward to get started quickly.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's helpful. And then just on the CapEx, it's a big increase with $1,000,000,000 for Missouri under PISA. Also, obviously, very big healthy O and M cut. Just curious, why not have pulled more spending forward in Kansas?

I mean, the rough math with $80,000,000 O and M reduction, that should translate into like $05,000,000,000 in annual capital opportunities without impacting retail rates. So why not spend more in Kansas with the O and M levers? And then I didn't get a sense from the slides if the incremental CapEx, what the profile of it is, whether it's front end loaded or spread evenly, just maybe get a sense there.

Speaker 2

Okay. On the first question, I would say obviously that with the capacity from PISA, which we've talked about as early as second quarter call and in the third quarter call, obviously that provides a focus from the state of Missouri on infrastructure spend, jobs, those kinds of things. So it makes more sense to focus on the recovery mechanism there. We have to continue to be cautious in Kansas because of the lag time between spend and recovery. That's not to say we wouldn't spend additional in Kansas as well.

But we obviously want to be more measured. And the immediate focus would be on PISA. In terms of what kind of projects, I'll let Kevin give you some color on what kind of things we're looking at from that perspective.

Speaker 6

Yes, Shar. So it's pretty balanced. I mean, the increase is across all five years. Obviously, have to be mindful of the rate cases we have in Missouri in the 2021 timeframe. But the types of projects fairly evenly split in the grid mod area across distribution and transmission.

We've got condition based asset replacements that we're focused on along with adding automation across our system. So it's a pretty balanced increase across our grid, and we plan to manage that through the five year timeframe.

Speaker 5

Got it. And then just lastly on sort of the merger savings, you guys are you've almost hit your target there. Is there opportunities because you attained it relatively quickly?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I think we believe that our focus from executing on the very clear process we went through from a merger connotation to ongoing process improvement. So we've continued to look for opportunities there. And we think there is additional opportunity that will help not only drive those O and M costs down, but create headroom for additional CapEx that we talked about today.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thanks and congrats on Kirk Andrews. That's a great add to your team.

Speaker 2

Thank you much.

Speaker 0

Thank you. Our next question comes from Julien Dumoulin DUMOULIN Smith SMITH:] with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning team. Congratulations on all the developments. Perhaps just to pick up where Shar left off, if I can follow-up, these O and M got contemplated here. How do you think about your earned ROE through this forecast period? And also, how does this reconcile with earlier commitments in Kansas?

I imagine from the last transaction, I imagine to a large extent, those have rolled off, but I just want to be very clear about that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, let me take a shot at that and be sure I understood your question. We continue to expect to earn our allowed ROEs. I think one of the things that we're trying to be clear about and proud of is that even though we had two regulatory orders that created a bit of a headwind last fall, we've been able to drive additional O and M savings to overcome that. So we continue to believe we'll earn our allowed ROEs in our utilities as we planned originally. And then you kind of faded out in the back end of your question.

Was the rest

Speaker 4

of Yes, just about the Kansas commitments, if you can, just from the deal. To the extent to which that there were certain involuntary reduction commitments at that time, I imagine implicit in this announcement that you're still in compliance with that as well. And the commitments are kind of the cost savings, wherever they are to be found, are independent from any other commitments you've made.

Speaker 2

Yeah. We we obviously have commitments in both states around our mergers, and everything we've discussed today is in the context of keeping our commitments to our customers, our regulators, our states. No doubt about it.

Speaker 4

And to the extent to which you've created a strategic effort here and obviously announced cost cuts, have you vetted this with Kansas and Missouri in whatever fashion?

Speaker 2

Well, obviously we just made the announcement today. So we'll be obviously talking to all of our stakeholders going forward about what it means, what the process is, and keeping them informed. We have very good regulatory relationships, and we would continue to work with them to be sure we answer any of their questions.

Speaker 4

Excellent. And sorry, last question here, if I can. Just as you think about the cadence of CapEx involved here, how do you think about equity and balance sheet needs, particularly given the share buyback cancellation? Obviously, you had a certain projection. I just want to be very clear about this, about what your equity needs for the full five year period are.

Speaker 3

This is Tony. We don't anticipate issuing equity to fund the capital plan that we announced today.

Speaker 4

Excellent. Perfect. Thank you for clarifying all that and I'll pass it on. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 0

Thank you. And our next question comes from Steve Fleishman with Wolfe. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Yes, hey good morning. Excuse me. So just on the committee, the Board committee that's been formed, you know, the release it talks about among options looking at strategic combinations. Like could you maybe give a little bit of color on like how that would work? Like are you actually is that like an invite for people to present stuff?

Are you going to go outward to people on that? Or how are you going look at that aspect?

Speaker 2

Well, obviously, the committee hasn't even met yet. So from a process perspective, we're yet to work through that. But obviously, with our time period in place, we will be putting together a plan to evaluate both of the paths that we've talked about. So don't have a lot of details and wouldn't want to get ahead of the committee in terms of specific process before they even had their first meeting.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then there is the committee is made up of two current board members and two new board members. Like what happens if there's a two-two and they don't necessarily agree? Is there like a process for that?

Speaker 2

There is. There's a process set up to make sure that we're very transparent about any disagreement among the committee and ultimately what the board decides. Ultimately, recommendations would go to the board and the board would make a decision. But to the extent there was a disagreement, we would want to be transparent about what the recommendations were. And that's built into the agreement we have.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then just one technical question. The Sibley case and the appeal of that, could you give an update if there's any timing or update on the Sibley case?

Speaker 2

No. It's still early in that process. Unfortunately, appeals from the Commission is a very, very slow deliberate process. So it wouldn't be in the near term.

Speaker 7

Okay. I actually have one other question, sorry. At a high level and ignoring kind of 2020 but just long term, is it fair to say that redirecting more money to CapEx relative to the buyback is additive to your plan?

Speaker 2

Yes. Short term, obviously not buying back the shares in the next six months would affect near term earnings per share. Long term, we believe this is a better allocation of capital and would drive long term shareholder value, no doubt.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 0

Thank you. And our next question comes from Paul Patterson with Glenrock Associates. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 8

Good morning. Just to sort of get a better picture on the CapEx improvement. Obviously you guys are aware of the arbitrage of the last question and sort of the benefits of CapEx versus the buyback. And I'm just sort of trying to get a sense as to the substantial increase. What's driven the revised outlook, if you follow me?

What was sort of the trigger that sort of got you guys to come up with so much of an increase in CapEx?

Speaker 2

Well, obviously, we started through the buyback program coming out of the merger, we had a over equitized capital structure. And we had a plan for driving EPS growth in the near term through the buyback while not overspending or not spending additional CapEx that would drive either lag or increases in customers' rates. But as we work through the plan, and again, we're about 75% through that original buyback process, we looked at opportunities for long term growth. And as PISA kicked in and it became a lot more clear to us, PISA as a tool was very helpful. We talked about, again as early as our second quarter call, about there being up to maybe $1,000,000,000 of capacity there that we were evaluating.

And we worked on specific projects that we could make as part of that. And so we began to work on the transition from the buyback into additional CapEx spend. That would be grid modernization and types of projects that would reduce O and M, all focused on being more efficient and lower cost for our customers. So that's kind of the high level version. Does that make sense?

Speaker 8

Yeah, I think so. So just in terms of the O and M reduction that would be associated with the improved in CapEx, can you give us any sort of rough quantification as to what that might be? Like how much savings in O and M are resulting from the CapEx deployment?

Speaker 3

Good morning, Paul. This is Tony. So we've given some drivers for near term for 2020, but we're not going to go out farther than that until the committee kind of finishes its work and its review. And obviously we're focused on cost management and that will continue to be a focus of this team.

Speaker 2

Obviously, terms of O and M improvement, though, there are some things that would naturally happen from that kind of investment. Don't know, Kevin, you got any

Speaker 6

Yes. So Paul, I mean, embedded in the twenty twenty drivers is that five to 8% reduction that Tony referenced. So that's order of magnitude what we'd expect to see this next year moving forward and moving forward. Headcount is a big piece of it. We've talked about managing our headcount down through attrition.

So doing it consistent with the merger commitments. We're getting more efficient in that regard. We're still seeing savings in our back office. We call them merger savings, but it's in the supply chain area and benefits, insurance, all those normal corporate overheads. And we continue to look for efficiencies at Wolf Creek.

So we got pretty strong confidence. We had a strong year in 2019. We expect significant performance in 2020, and we'll keep looking for opportunities moving forward.

Speaker 8

Yes, absolutely. I was just wondering if on the CapEx side, if there was some sort of rule of thumb or some sort of sense. In other words, I guess what I'm saying is you guys have obviously executed quite well on the merger synergies and all the other things that you're looking at. I'm just trying to get a sense as to when you're looking at that kind of CapEx, when we're looking at the CapEx, how much of a reduction, if you guys have it, if you don't, if it's too early, that's okay. But if there was any sort of rule of thumb, so to speak, if we're putting this much CapEx in, this much cost might be coming out kind of thing on an OM sort of basis.

Is there anything like that?

Speaker 6

I don't have a great rule of thumb for you, Paul. I mean, it all depends on where the CapEx is going. Our system is starting out fairly at reliable place. So we expect to see savings, it's hard to quantify it.

Speaker 8

Okay. Fair enough. And then just on the strategic review, I mean, is that pretty much all of the above? I mean, everything's on the table kind of thing? Or, I mean, these are sort of vague terms if you know any.

I'm just sort of trying to get like Can you elaborate a little bit more on that?

Speaker 2

Well, only to say that obviously everything would be on the table, but there's obviously a focus that's been discussed, which given the time frame, there'll be a focus to start off with. If we begin to work and see other opportunities, I'm sure the committee would want to look into that. But there's clearly a focus as we start the committee work.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thanks so much, guys.

Speaker 2

Thank

Speaker 0

you. And our next question comes from Charles Fishman with Morningstar. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Thank you. Jerry, I just want to make sure I heard this correctly. You will file rate cases in 2021 in all jurisdictions in Kansas and Missouri?

Speaker 2

No. We're not filing rate cases until 2223 in the two jurisdictions.

Speaker 8

The two being

Speaker 2

Missouri and Kansas.

Speaker 9

Oh, I'm sorry. But the the individual businesses, the in Missouri, you got, like, two. You'll file both of those in 2022?

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 9

Okay. Then I'm glad I asked that. I misheard that. Okay. And then I guess as a follow-up to that, you obviously have ties in Missouri, a positive.

In Kansas, you did get treated unfairly, I think, in my opinion, in Kansas late last year on Jeffrey. The staff supportive of your position. The commission went their own way. What gives you the confidence going forward that, especially with this bump in CapEx, that you'll get treated a little more fairly in Kansas?

Speaker 2

Well, again, we do have a good relationship both with the commission and with the staff. But the staff in particular, as you said, agreed with us on that particular ruling. That was not a typical rate CapEx investment inclusion in rates case. It was a unique situation where we had a lease that had been in place for a long time that was converting. So it was a unique situation.

And we were disappointed that the commission didn't agree with us and the staff. But I don't think anything about that suggests to us that our typical CapEx investment in infrastructure that drives reliability and service to our customers would be viewed any differently in Kansas than it would in Missouri. And historically, in our rate cases, we've seen that result.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thank you. You certainly made things interesting in Kansas and Missouri. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 0

Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Terry Bassman for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much for dialing in. And obviously, we'll be talking to everyone on an ongoing basis, but we look forward to moving forward with our announcement today. So thank you. Have a good day.

Speaker 0

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.