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Eellen Pao

Director at Expensify
Board

About Ellen Pao

Ellen Pao (age 55) is an independent director of Expensify, Inc., serving on the board since the company’s IPO in 2021. She co-founded Project Include in December 2015 and has led it since; her education includes a B.S.E. in electrical engineering (Princeton), a J.D. (Harvard Law), and an M.B.A. (Harvard Business School). Her prior operating and leadership roles include Interim CEO and EVP of Business Development at Reddit (2012–2015), and Chief Diversity & Inclusion Officer/Kapor Capital Venture Partner (2017–2018); the board cites her DEI focus and long-standing experience as a board observer, investor, and advisor to technology startups since 2005 as core credentials .

Past Roles

OrganizationRoleTenureCommittees/Impact
RedditInterim CEO; EVP, Business DevelopmentApr 2012 – Jul 2015Led platform operations; executive leadership experience
Kapor Center / Kapor CapitalChief Diversity & Inclusion Officer; Venture PartnerJan 2017 – Mar 2018DEI leadership and venture investing experience
Project IncludeCo-founder; CEO; Board memberFounded Dec 2015; CEO since Jan 2017DEI advocacy; nonprofit leadership
Various tech startupsBoard observer, investor, advisorSince 2005Technology ecosystem engagement

External Roles

OrganizationTypeRoleStatus/Notes
Project IncludeNonprofitCEO; Board MemberCurrent role; DEI advocacy in technology

No other current public company directorships disclosed for Ms. Pao .

Board Governance

  • Independence: The Executive Committee on behalf of the Board determined that Ellen Pao is an “independent director” under the Exchange Act and Nasdaq rules; she serves on Expensify’s Audit Committee, which is fully independent and chaired by Timothy L. Christen .
  • Committee memberships: Audit Committee member; not on the Compensation Committee (which is composed of management directors due to controlled-company exemptions) and no nominating/governance committee exists .
  • Attendance: In fiscal 2024, the Board, Compensation, and Audit Committees each held four meetings; every director attended at least 75% of Board and applicable committee meetings. All but one director attended the 2024 Annual Meeting (individual attendance not specified) .
  • Leadership structure and executive sessions: The Board has no chair or lead independent director; independent directors hold executive sessions at least annually, presided over by the Audit Committee chair or designee .
  • Controlled company: Expensify is a “controlled company” under Nasdaq due to the Voting Trust’s >50% voting power (~84.3% as of the 2025 record date), and elects exemptions (no majority-independent board; non-independent Compensation Committee; no nominating committee) .

Fixed Compensation

ComponentPolicy/AmountNotes
Annual cash retainer$30,000For non-employee directors
Audit Committee member retainer$10,000Audit chair receives $20,000; Pao is a member (not chair)
Meeting feesNone disclosedNot part of program
2024 fees paid (Pao)$40,000Reflects base + audit committee member retainer

Directors may elect to receive 0–100% of retainers in fully vested RSUs (“Retainer RSU Award”) granted automatically after quarter-end; RSU count is dollar value divided by 30-day average closing price. Retainer RSUs are fully vested at grant .

Performance Compensation

Equity AwardGrant BasisVesting2024 Award Value (Pao)
Annual RSU Award$125,000 / 30-day average closing price; granted at annual meetingVests in full on earlier of 1-year from grant or immediately before next annual meeting; service-based (no performance metrics)$107,363 (grant-date fair value)
Retainer RSU (optional)Elected portion of cash retainer / 30-day average closing priceFully vested at grantNot elected by Pao in excess of cash fees (0 indicated in note)

No director options were outstanding as of Dec 31, 2024; director equity awards are time-based RSUs without explicit performance metrics .

Other Directorships & Interlocks

Company/OrganizationRelationship to EXFYPotential Interlock/Conflict
Project IncludeNonprofit advocacy; no disclosed commercial relationshipNone disclosed

No shared public company directorships with Expensify competitors/suppliers/customers are disclosed for Pao; no Item 404 related-party transactions disclosed involving Pao .

Expertise & Qualifications

  • Education: B.S.E. (Princeton, EE); J.D. (Harvard Law); M.B.A. (Harvard Business School) .
  • Technical and leadership: Executive experience in social media, venture/DEI leadership, and long-term technology ecosystem involvement (investor/advisor since 2005) .
  • Board qualifications noted by company: DEI focus; experience as board observer/member/investor/advisor in tech startups .

Equity Ownership

HolderClass A Shares Beneficially Owned% of Class A OutstandingLT10LT50Notes
Ellen Pao117,778<1%Includes RSUs within 60-day vesting/settlement window per SEC rules

As of Dec 31, 2024, Pao held 117,778 RSUs; no stock options outstanding. No pledging by Pao is disclosed; company policy permits limited pledging (up to 25% of holdings) and prohibits hedging .

Governance Assessment

  • Strengths

    • Independent Audit Committee membership; committee is fully independent; Audit Committee chair is designated as financial expert .
    • Insider trading policy prohibits hedging and certain speculative trading; clawback policy adopted to comply with Nasdaq Rule 10D-1 (applies to NEO incentive-based pay) .
    • Director equity pay aligns with shareholder outcomes via time-based RSUs and optional retainer RSUs; Pao’s 2024 comp mix was predominantly equity ($107,363 RSUs vs. $40,000 cash) .
  • Risks and Red Flags

    • Controlled Company Governance: Voting Trust holds ~84.3% of total voting power—independent directors (including Pao) have limited influence on outcomes; minority shareholder protections are reduced under Nasdaq exemptions (no nominating committee; non-independent Compensation Committee; no majority-independent board) .
    • Compensation Committee Composition: Includes CEO and other executives; executive officers participate in deliberations—raises potential conflicts (though recusal occurs for self-related exceptions). No independent compensation consultant engaged in 2024; reliance on prior 2023 report .
    • Limited Pledging Policy: While hedging is prohibited, pledging up to 25% is permitted company-wide—a misalignment risk if broadly utilized (no pledging by Pao disclosed) .
  • Attendance and Engagement Signal

    • Board and committee meetings totaled four each in fiscal 2024; Pao met the threshold of at least 75% attendance like all directors, supporting baseline engagement .
  • Related-Party Oversight

    • Audit Committee reviews related-party transactions; no Item 404 transactions disclosed for Pao. Notable related-party activity involved CEO’s trust share repurchase; underscores need for robust independent oversight .

Appendix: Director Compensation Detail (2024)

NameFees Paid in Cash ($)Stock Awards ($)Total ($)
Ellen Pao40,000107,363147,363

Program mechanics for director compensation and vesting are as described above .

Notes on Compliance and Filings

  • Section 16(a) filings: The company reports timely filings for 2024 except for listed individuals; Pao is not among those with late filings, indicating timely reporting .
  • Executive sessions: Independent directors meet at least annually; chaired by Audit Committee chair or designee .

Summary Implication for Investors

Ellen Pao provides independent oversight and DEI-centric expertise on a fully independent Audit Committee, with solid attendance and equity-aligned pay. However, Expensify’s controlled-company status and management-dominated Compensation Committee materially reduce the practical influence of independent directors; minority investors should weigh the Voting Trust’s decisive voting power and governance exemptions when assessing board effectiveness and shareholder alignment .