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National Vision Holdings, Inc. (EYE)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q4 revenue grew 3.9% to $437.3M with comparable store sales +2.6% (Adjusted comps +1.5%); GAAP diluted EPS was $(0.37) on a non-cash goodwill impairment, while Adjusted EPS was $(0.04). Adjusted operating income improved to $3.2M.
  • Sequentially, revenue fell vs Q3 ($451.5M) and margins compressed (Adj. operating margin 0.7% vs 3.2% in Q3), driven by higher adjusted SG&A and impairment, partly offset by lower optometrist costs and higher eyeglass margin.
  • Transformation levers are gaining traction: average ticket +3% with conversion stable; managed care is ~40% of FY sales and comped high-single-digit through 2024; >730 locations enabled for remote exams (12% of exams in enabled states; remote doctor productivity exceeded in-store in 2H).
  • FY25 outlook (53-week year) guides revenue to $1.901–$1.955B, Adjusted operating income $73–$88M, and Adjusted EPS $0.52–$0.64, with ~50 bps operating margin expansion “more than entirely” from SG&A leverage; includes ~$35M revenue and ~$3M Adj OI from the 53rd week.
  • Stock catalysts: visible SG&A reduction (~$12M in 2025) following >10% corporate support workforce elimination, moderated new store openings (30–35), and mix shift to managed care; near-term risk is the negative traffic trend that emerged mid-February.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

  • What Went Well

    • “Eighth consecutive quarter of positive comparable store sales growth,” supported by new selling methods, targeted pricing, and acceleration in managed care sales.
    • Average ticket up 3% in Q4 with conversion holding steady as tactical pricing on frames and salesforce training rolled out.
    • Remote care and capacity: >730 remote-enabled locations; ~12% of exams in enabled states; remote doctors’ patients/day exceeded in-store in 2H FY24.
  • What Went Wrong

    • GAAP loss of $(29.4)M with $(0.37) EPS due largely to a non-cash goodwill impairment (Eyeglass World brand/other assets). Adjusted EPS was flat vs prior year at $(0.04).
    • Sequential margin pressure: Adjusted operating margin fell to 0.7% (from 3.2% in Q3) as adjusted SG&A rose (legal/professional for transformation and higher payroll/IT amortization), despite lower optometrist costs and better eyeglass margins.
    • Traffic turned negative in the last two weeks of February after a strong January, prompting a wider FY25 outlook range (macro/weather uncertainty).

Financial Results

MetricQ4 2023Q3 2024Q4 2024
Total Net Revenue ($M)$420.953 $451.515 $437.278
Costs Applicable to Revenue ($M)$184.377 $189.929 $185.001
SG&A ($M)$225.642 $233.991 $233.052
Adjusted SG&A ($M)$216.270 $225.040 $226.557
Adjusted Operating Income ($M)$(2.740) $14.294 $3.228
Adjusted Operating Margin (%)(0.7)% 3.2% 0.7%
Net Income (Loss) from Cont. Ops ($M)$(14.739) $(8.440) $(29.437)
Diluted EPS from Cont. Ops ($)$(0.19) $(0.11) $(0.37)
Adjusted Diluted EPS ($)$(0.04) $0.12 $(0.04)

Revenue mix (Q4)

MetricQ4 2023Q4 2024
Net Product Sales ($M)$336.330 $349.933
Net Sales of Services & Plans ($M)$84.623 $87.345

Brand-level comps (quarterly)

Brand Comparable Store Sales GrowthQ2 2024Q3 2024Q4 2024
America’s Best+2.9% +1.2% +2.0%
Eyeglass World(0.5)% (2.9)%? Note: Q3 shows (0.9)% (1.7)%
Military(0.1)% (0.6)% +0.2%
Fred Meyer(2.7)% (7.3)% (2.1)%
Total Comparable Store Sales+2.2% +1.4% +2.6%
Adjusted Comparable Store Sales+2.4% +0.9% +1.5%

KPIs and operating metrics

KPIQ3 2024Q4 2024
Average Ticket Growth (YoY)+1.3% +3.0%
Customer Transactions (YoY)+0.1% (1.1)%
Adjusted Comparable Store Sales Growth+0.9% +1.5%
Unearned Revenue Timing Benefit (ppt)+0.4 ppt +0.8 ppt
Ending Store Count1,231 1,240

Other operating metrics (FY 2024)

  • Managed care share of revenue ≈ 40% (comping high single digits in 2024).
  • Remote-enabled locations >730; remote exams ≈ 12% of exams in enabled states (FY); remote MD productivity > in-store in 2H.
  • Cash from operations $133.6M; capex $95.5M; cash $73.9M; total debt $350.0M at year-end.

Store actions in Q4

  • Opened 20 America’s Best; closed 7 America’s Best and 4 Eyeglass World; converted 4 Eyeglass World to America’s Best.

Non-GAAP adjustments (Q4)

  • Net change in margin on unearned revenue benefited Adjusted EPS by $0.02 and Adjusted OI by $2.5M.
  • GAAP EPS affected by non-cash goodwill impairment (Eyeglass World and other assets).

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
New Stores (units)FY 2025 (53w)n/a (first issuance; company had telegraphed 30–35 in Nov) 30–35 n/a
Adjusted Comparable Store Sales GrowthFY 2025 (52w basis)n/a0.5%–3.5% n/a
Net RevenueFY 2025 (53w)n/a$1.901B–$1.955B n/a
Adjusted Operating IncomeFY 2025n/a$73M–$88M n/a
Adjusted Diluted EPSFY 2025n/a$0.52–$0.64 n/a
Depreciation & AmortizationFY 2025n/a$93M–$96M n/a
Interest ExpenseFY 2025n/a$17M–$19M n/a
Tax RateFY 2025n/a27% n/a
Capital ExpendituresFY 2025n/a$90M–$95M n/a
53rd week contributionFY 2025n/a≈$35M revenue; ≈$3M Adj OI n/a

Note: Management said FY25 margin expansion (~50 bps at midpoint) is “more than entirely” from SG&A leverage.

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q2 & Q3 2024)Current Period (Q4 2024)Trend
Managed care mix and growthAB managed care comps high-single-digit; cash-pay softness; managed care outperformed cash pay; targeting managed care consumer with tailored offers. Managed care ≈40% of FY revenue, grew high-single-digit through FY24; further personalization and product assortment aimed at managed care. Improving mix to managed care
Pricing & promotionsTested promotions (e.g., progressives 2-for-$129.95), single-pair rollback; balancing pricing vs promotion; early lift in traffic/ticket. Tactical frame pricing; sales training; Q4 ticket +3% with stable conversion; raised headline 2-pair offer by $10 in Q1’25. Positive ticket; careful elasticity management
Remote exams / capacity~600 enabled by Q2; hybrid pilot; late-day exams added; 11% of exams in enabled states (Q3); Texas rollout. >730 enabled; ~12% of exams in enabled states FY; remote doctor productivity > in-store; remote normalized into operations. Structural capacity lever
Store fleet optimizationIdentified <5% of fleet; plan to close 39 and convert 4 by FY26, ~$4M adj. EBITDA benefit; moderate FY25 openings to 30–35. Executed Q4 closures/conversions; reiterated moderated 2025 openings; continued focus on profitable base. Margin-accretive pruning
Tariffs/macroMacro inconsistency (cash-pay consumer); benefit from promotions; watching industry/weather/IT disruptions. China tariffs <10% of costs; Mexico exposure <1% after mitigation; widened FY25 range amid mid-Feb traffic softness and weather. Managed, but a headwind risk
AI/technology & CRMERP/CRM investments; Toku AI retinal imaging pilot beginnings; digitization of EHR/patient records. Expanding BioAge pilot (Toku) to 117 stores; Adobe CRM go-live 2H’25; Accenture partnership to modernize digital. Building personalization moat

Management Commentary

  • “We delivered our eighth consecutive quarter of positive comparable store sales growth driven by new selling methods, targeted pricing actions and…acceleration in managed vision care sales.” — Reade Fahs, CEO.
  • “Our priorities are focused on driving comparable store sales with an intense focus on disciplined expense management…we eliminated just over 10% of our existing corporate support positions…meaningfully reducing SG&A.” — Alex Wilkes, President.
  • “Adjusted operating income increased to $3.2 million and adjusted diluted earnings per share was a loss of $0.04…full year bottom line performance above our expectations.” — Reade Fahs.
  • “We ended 2024 with over 730 locations enabled with remote technology…remote doctor patients seen per day, exceeding that of in-store doctors in the second half.” — Reade Fahs.
  • “At the midpoint, [FY25] assumes adjusted operating margins increase ~50 bps…more than entirely driven by SG&A leverage.” — Melissa Rasmussen, CFO.

Q&A Highlights

  • Margin expansion drivers: FY25 ~50 bps operating margin improvement largely from ~$12M SG&A reduction; initiatives expected to add upside over time.
  • Comps build and cadence: Expect balanced mix of ticket and traffic in 2025; ticket strength holding post-Q4 actions; short-term choppiness in Feb noted.
  • Remote rollout: Continue expansion where laws allow; remote normalized; new stores in eligible states to be remote-enabled.
  • Managed care vs cash pay: Managed care ~40% of sales and growing high-single-digit comps; more insulated from macro given coverage; goal to personalize marketing and product for this cohort.
  • Tariff exposure: <10% of cost base exposed to China tariffs; Mexico <1% after mitigation if imposed.
  • Store closures: Majority of identified underperformers addressed by FY26; closures expected to add ~$4M to adj. EBITDA by end of FY26.

Estimates Context

  • S&P Global consensus estimates for Q4 2024 (revenue/EPS/EBITDA) were unavailable at the time of request due to a data access limit; as a result, we cannot quantify beat/miss vs Street for the quarter.
  • Management indicated FY24 adjusted EPS of $0.52 (above the high end of prior FY24 guidance) and guided FY25 adjusted EPS to $0.52–$0.64; absent Street numbers, estimate revisions will likely center on SG&A leverage, 53rd-week contribution ($35M rev/$3M adj. OI), and mixed ticket/traffic assumptions.

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Mix shift to managed care is durable and margin-supportive: managed care ≈40% of revenue and comped high-single-digit in 2024; strategy focuses on personalized offers and curated product for this cohort.
  • Ticket-driven recovery is underway (Q4 ticket +3% with stable conversion) from tactical pricing and training; sustaining traffic remains the swing factor amid macro variability.
  • Structural cost actions underpin FY25 margin expansion (~50 bps midpoint), with ~$12M SG&A reduction and moderated new store growth (30–35).
  • Remote exams and capacity investments are now embedded capabilities (>730 remote-enabled locations; 12% of exams in enabled states), supporting throughput and doctor productivity.
  • Asset optimization continues: closure/conversion program (39 closures by FY26; 4 conversions) should add ~$4M annualized adj. EBITDA by end of FY26; near-term revenue headwind manageable.
  • FY25 guidance is credible but prudently wide after mid-Feb traffic softness; 53rd week provides ≈$35M revenue and ≈$3M adj. OI cushion.
  • Leadership continuity through transition (CFO change) and strengthened transformation bench (Accenture, Adobe CRM, agency of record) should aid execution on personalization and omnichannel.