Global Payments - Q2 2024

Transcript

Operator (participant)

Ladies, and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to Global Payments Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will open the lines for question-and-answers. If you should require assistance during this call, please press star and then zero. As a reminder, today's conference will be recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to your host, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations, Winnie Smith. Please go ahead.

Winnie Smith (SVP of Investor Relations)

Good morning, and welcome to Global Payments Second Quarter 2024 Conference Call. Our earnings release and the slides that accompany this call can be found on the Investor Relations area of our website at www.globalpayments.com. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that some of the comments made by management during today's conference call contain forward-looking statements about, among other matters, expected operating and financial results. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors, including the impact of economic conditions on our future operations, that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Certain risk factors inherent in our business are set forth in filings with the SEC, including our most recent 10-K and subsequent filings. We caution you not to place undue reliance on these statements.

Forward-looking statements during this call speak only as of the date of this call, and we undertake no obligation to update them. We will be also referring to several non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are more reflective of our ongoing performance. For a full reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures discussed in this call to the most comparable GAAP measure, in accordance with SEC regulations, please see our press release furnished as an exhibit to our Form 8-K filed this morning and our supplemental material available on the Investor Relations section of our website. Joining me on the call is our CEO, Cameron Bready, and our CFO, Josh Whipple. Now I'll turn the call over to Cameron.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Thanks, Winnie, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. We are pleased with our performance for the second quarter, driven by consistent execution of our strategy, focused on being the worldwide partner of choice for commerce solutions. Specifically, we achieved 6% adjusted net revenue growth, or 7% excluding the impact of the divestiture of Netspend's consumer assets, and delivered adjusted earnings per share growth of 12% in the quarter. We also expanded adjusted operating margins 40 basis points as we continue to drive efficiency in our business, leveraging the scale position we enjoy in our core markets and realize synergy benefits from the EVO acquisition. There are a number of noteworthy highlights to cover this morning.

Starting with Merchant Solutions, we delivered high single-digit organic growth, largely driven by our differentiated capabilities across our integrated software and point-of-sale businesses, as market demand for embedded payments and commerce enablement solutions continues to accelerate. Our integrated business saw double-digit growth in the quarter, aided by continued strong booking trends and business development results, with new ISV partner signings up 30% year-to-date. Our ongoing success in identifying and signing new ISVs in this channel is partly attributable to our Progressive Payment Facilitation solution, or ProFac, which we launched mid last year. Active merchants on this solution have increased 40%, and average merchant volumes have improved 60% since the end of 2023. We remain confident in our competitive positioning in this market and are investing in our capabilities to ensure we preserve our leadership position.

We continue to focus on differentiating ourselves by, one, our ability to meet the specific needs of our partners by leveraging the breadth and depth of our solutions, and, two, the expansive additional embedded commerce capabilities we can attach to the underlying payments relationship. With both new and existing integrated partners, we are seeing an improvement in the average annual revenue opportunity with new merchants as we focus on cross-selling commerce enablement solutions. This includes human capital management and payroll, loyalty and marketing, analytics and customer engagement solutions, as well as B2B software. Speaking of B2B, it is worth noting that we continue to see increased demand for our B2B acceptance solutions as we further leverage the PayFabric platform we acquired with EVO.

Our proprietary integrations with some of the most widely used ERP environments in the market are critical to delivering the embedded, frictionless automation necessary to improve process efficiencies for our customers. We saw more than a 50% increase in new ISV partnerships, leveraging our PayFabric capabilities in the second quarter, as more B2B spend shifts to digital channels. In our vertical markets businesses, we saw double-digit growth in software bookings this quarter, with particular strength in education, real estate, and healthcare. Notable wins include a new partnership with the Los Angeles Unified School District, the second largest in the U.S., which will leverage our full suite of capabilities across point of sale, MySchoolBucks, cafeteria management, as well as our back-of-house solutions. With this addition, we now have partnerships with the three largest school districts in the United States.

Our real estate business signed a new partnership with YES Communities, a leading provider of manufactured housing communities across the United States, and expanded existing relationships with community association solutions company, Associated Asset Management, and commercial and residential real estate service provider, Tobin Capital Group. Also, this quarter, we launched a new residential payouts product to streamline and automate the return of security deposits, which we are already successfully cross-selling to customers.... We also saw strong growth in our point-of-sale software business this quarter, adding roughly 3,500 new locations. Demand for our point of sale and embedded commerce solutions remain strong across the segments of the restaurant and retail verticals we target. Our solutions are designed to grow with the customer's business, leveraging a common technology stack that enables customers to easily add functionality as they expand.

This allows us to serve the small end of the SMB market and scale with merchants as they grow, while also addressing the more complex needs of quick service restaurants and sports entertainment venues. To that end, we are excited to announce a new partnership with Diamond Baseball Holdings to serve as the official commerce technology partner for its Minor League Baseball franchises in the United States and Canada. We are currently installed in 13 of these stadiums, and we expect to fully roll out our solutions at additional ballparks across Diamond's club portfolio before the 2025 season opens. We also signed new stadium partnerships with multiple U.K. football clubs, including Newcastle, Birmingham City, and Nottingham Forest, during the quarter.

We are proud to have supported a major professional football championship across multiple stadiums, a Grand Slam tennis tournament, and a major golf tournament with our point of sale and payment solutions in Europe this summer. We also went live this quarter with a leading parks and entertainment company, and are now providing the food and beverage and retail point-of-sale solutions at its theme park locations in Florida. We continue to see great momentum in food service management, where we are the partner of choice to the three largest players in the space, which drove a 20% improvement in related bookings this quarter. In the restaurant and retail verticals in North America, where our POS software is targeted towards SMB and mid-market customers, in addition to strong rooftop growth, we achieved a greater than 70% attach rate of our embedded commerce solutions with new customers.

As just one example, we are seeing significant demand for loyalty and marketing tools, with locations leveraging our customer engagement software increasing over 100% this quarter compared to the prior year. Additionally, we are pleased with the market reception of our recently released next-generation point-of-sale software, including the improved user interface, our intuitive experience across iOS and Android-based devices, and the mobile-first design that drives best-in-class omni-channel experiences for our merchants and their consumers. While still early days, these new offerings are benefiting our performance, and we expect a more meaningful contribution to revenue in 2025 as we gain scale. We also continue to see good momentum expanding our point-of-sale offerings into markets outside of the U.S. It's worth highlighting that we have begun piloting our point-of-sale offering in Germany and anticipate a full commercial launch next month.

We also remain on track to bring our point-of-sale software to key additional international markets, including Mexico, Ireland, Poland, Austria, and Romania over the next 12-15 months. In Germany, our Commerzbank joint venture, Commerz Globalpay, went live this quarter, and we are off to a fantastic start. While we are just beginning to leverage Commerzbank's relationships with its roughly 26,000 corporate clients and almost 11 million private and small business customers, we are already seeing strong lead generation and substantial opportunities to further digitize the payment experience, while also allowing us to build a scale business in this attractive market. Lastly, we are continuing to see strong demand for our Pan-European solutions. Notably, we are realizing attractive growth in the EV charging sector and recently signed a partnership with a major European energy provider to support the expansion of public charging solutions throughout Central Europe.

We also made two small tuck-in acquisitions in Europe this quarter to continue to improve our strategic positioning. The first was the acquisition of takepayments, a small provider of payment solutions to SMB merchants in the U.K. takepayments serves to meaningfully diversify and expand our direct distribution capability and demand generation solutions as the U.K. market continues to evolve beyond traditional bank-based referral channels. It also provides attractive opportunities for us to cross-sell our commerce enablement solutions into its customer base. This investment allows us to reorient our distribution approach in the U.K. market with leading demand gen capabilities and represents opportune timing as we are starting to see some signs of stability in the U.K. market more broadly.

We have a strong pipeline of new business here, with the hospitality and unattended verticals notable bright spots, including our recent win of Virgin Hotels' hotel business in the U.K. The second acquisition at the end of the quarter was that of an early-stage technology development company that we were previously partnering with in Europe to drive our terminal on mobile offerings. Given the strong demand we have seen for our terminal on mobile offerings and the expected long-term importance they will play to our point-of-sale plans, it was strategically important for us to bring this technology in-house, to unify our offerings globally, and to control the entire value stack enabling our solutions. Moving to issuer solutions, we continue to see strong execution across our business. We completed two large conversions this quarter, which, in combination with existing customer growth, drove a healthy increase in accounts on file sequentially.

We also have a near record implementation pipeline of more than 65 million accounts and seven active LOIs. Further, we're having ongoing success in cross-selling our value-added service solutions and completed 30 product implementations for existing clients this quarter across our fraud, virtual card, and communications platforms. From a macro perspective, and similar to what you heard from our FI partners in the networks, we saw a modest deceleration in transaction volumes this quarter, which was largely driven by commercial card activity. We recently renewed our multi-decade issuer relationship with NatWest, spanning both its consumer and commercial portfolios, cementing our position with one of the largest and most active clients in Europe. NatWest recently announced its acquisition of Sainsbury's Bank, further highlighting the importance of our strategy to align ourselves with market share winners. We look forward to opportunities to continue to expand our partnership with them in the future.

Additionally, we have now launched our partnership with Outpayce, a leading global travel technology company owned by Amadeus, providing issuer solutions technology for its platforms across Europe. Outpayce is our first fintech customer operating in our AWS cloud environment in Europe, with many other clients in the pipeline. Most importantly, we also continue to make progress on our issuer modernization program and remain on track to complete the development of our client-facing applications this year. We have already initiated customer pilots and continue to expect commercial launch next year. Through modernization, we meaningfully increase our addressable market by broadening our opportunity set to include mid-market and smaller banks, in addition to new geographies. Our investments also drive greater enablement capabilities for our clients and allow our leading applications and solutions to be more easily consumable by fintechs, who are developing new use cases around cards.

Shifting to B2B, we are seeing good trends in new bookings for our AP Automation software in our core mid-market segment, while virtual card spend continues to ramp. Additionally, we signed several notable new customers for our employer solutions, including relationships with Terra Staffing Group and Rainbow Pizza, which operates nearly 50 Domino's locations throughout Texas. We also renewed partnerships with AMC Theatres and Cracker Barrel. Before I turn the call over to Josh, I would like to highlight the appointment of Bob Cortopassi as the President and Chief Operating Officer of Global Payments. Bob is a proven, growth-oriented leader and operator, as well as a trusted colleague with an exceptional track record of managing key businesses across our organization during his 12-year tenure with the company.

Most recently, Bob served as our Senior Executive Vice President and President of International and Vertical Markets for our Merchant Solutions business, and previously led our integrated business for nearly a decade. I look forward to partnering with Bob and am confident in the role he will play in our company's continued future success. Josh?

Josh Whipple (CFO)

Thanks, Cameron. Our solid financial performance for the second quarter was consistent with our expectations and reflects continued strong execution across our business, despite ongoing macroeconomic uncertainty. We delivered adjusted net revenue of $2.32 billion for the quarter, an increase of 6% from the prior year, or 7% excluding the impact of the Netspend divestiture. Our reported adjusted net revenue includes a roughly 50 basis point headwind from adverse foreign currency exchange rates relative to the second quarter of 2023. Adjusted operating margin increased 40 basis points to 45.2%, and we reported adjusted earnings per share of $2.93, an increase of 12% compared to the same period in 2023.

Taking a closer look at performance by segment, Merchant Solutions achieved adjusted net revenue of $1.8 billion for the second quarter, reflecting growth of 8%. This includes less than a point of contribution from the acquisition of takepayments, which offset the roughly 50 basis point impact from unfavorable foreign currency exchange rates during the period. Our U.S. business delivered high single-digit growth in the quarter as we continue to benefit from our software-centric strategy, with both our integrated payments and point-of-sale businesses delivering double-digit growth for the period. We also saw strength in our vertical markets portfolio, with our real estate, higher education, and healthcare solutions being notable bright spots. Outside of the U.S., we achieved mid-single-digit organic growth in Europe, with notable strength across our faster growth geographies, including Poland and Greece.

We were also pleased to see trends start to stabilize in the United Kingdom. Separately, our LatAm business realized double-digit growth as we continue to benefit from the strong secular payment trends in Mexico. This performance was partially offset by ongoing weakness in the macroeconomic environment in Asia Pacific. We delivered adjusted operating margin of 48.8% in the merchant segment, an increase of 30 basis points, reflecting ongoing sequential improvement since completing the acquisition of EVO Payments last year as expected. We are executing against our synergy plans related to the EVO transaction and remain on track to achieve $135 million in run rate expense synergies within two years. Integration expenses are continuing to trend lower, as we have seen over the last several quarters.

Issuer Solutions produced adjusted net revenue of $527 million, reflecting growth of over 4%. This includes a roughly 50 basis point impact from unfavorable foreign currency exchange rates during the period. This quarter, we added 8 million traditional accounts on file sequentially, or nearly 50 million accounts year-over-year, as we continue to benefit from ongoing execution of our conversion pipeline, in addition to account growth with our existing FI customers. We've had an especially busy year with new client implementations. Year-to-date, we have completed nine implementations with over 8 million accounts. I'm especially proud of our team, who has delivered these on time and with outstanding quality. We have six more implementations to complete for the remainder of the year.

Issuer transactions increased mid-single digits compared to the second quarter of 2023, which was a modest deceleration from the prior quarter. This was largely driven by softer commercial volumes as businesses take a more cautious approach to spending, given the overall level of macroeconomic uncertainty. We also saw a slight deceleration in consumer transaction growth sequentially, similar to what was reported by the networks and our FI partners. Focusing on our issuer B2B portfolio, our AP Automation software continued to see healthy growth in the core mid-market segment on a normalized basis in the second quarter. And while our PayCard solution is seeing some headwinds from softer employment trends due to the macro environment, we are encouraged by the active new sales pipeline we have in the business.

Issuer Solutions delivered adjusted operating margin of 46.8%, an increase of 10 basis points compared to the prior year as we continue to drive efficiencies in the business. This was achieved despite facing a difficult comparison. As you may recall, issuer margins expanded 300 basis points during the second quarter of 2023, as we pivoted the business to more technology enablement and away from lower-margin managed services offerings. We've now lapped those related margin benefits. From a cash flow standpoint, we produced strong adjusted free cash flow for the quarter of approximately $680 million, which is 25% higher than the prior year period. This also represents a roughly 91% conversion rate of adjusted net income to adjusted free cash flow, up from approximately 80% last year.

It is worth noting that adjusted free cash flow this quarter included a relatively small positive adjustment related to settlement timing for the period as the second quarter ended on a weekend, as it has for the prior three quarters. With the third quarter ending on a weekday, we expect the larger impacts from the settlement pre-funding we saw in the back half of last year to reverse. We invested $179 million in capital expenditures during the quarter and continue to expect capital spending to be around $670 million, or roughly 7% of revenue in 2024, consistent with our long-term targets. Further, we repurchased approximately 1 million shares for roughly $100 million in the quarter.

Our leverage position was just under 3.5 times at the end of the second quarter, and we remain on track for our leverage level to be in the low 3s by year-end, consistent with our long-term targets. Our balance sheet remains healthy, and we have approximately $3.6 billion of available liquidity. Our total indebtedness is approximately 97% fixed, with a weighted average cost of debt of 3.37%. Turning to the outlook, we are pleased with how our business is positioned as we begin the second half of the year. We continue to expect reported adjusted net revenue to range from $9.17 billion-$9.30 billion, reflecting growth of 6%-7% over 2023.

This now includes an expectation for foreign currency exchange rates to be a headwind of up to 75 basis points in the second half of the year. We still expect annual adjusted operating margin to expand up to 50 basis points for 2024, driven by the benefits to our business mix from our ongoing shift towards technology enablement, partially offset by the lower margin profile of EVO prior to full synergy realization. To provide color at the segment level, we continue to expect our merchant business to report adjusted net revenue growth of 9%+ for the full year. This remains consistent with our prior outlook, despite our expectation that unfavorable foreign currency exchange rates will now be a headwind in the back half of the year.

We expect these headwinds to be offset by the inclusion of the acquisition of takepayments that Cameron discussed, which we expect to contribute roughly a point of growth for the second half of the year. We also continue to expect up to 30 basis points of adjusted operating margin expansion for the merchant business in 2024, with expansion improving in the back half compared to the first half performance as EVO synergy realization ramps. Moving to Issuer Solutions, we continue to anticipate adjusted net revenue growth in the 5%-6% range for the full year compared to 2023. However, given the headwind we now expect from foreign currency exchange rates and the modest deceleration we're seeing in commercial card transactions, we now expect to be at the low end of this range.

We still anticipate adjusted operating margin for the issuer business to expand by up to 50 basis points. Moving to a couple of non-operating items. We expect net interest expense to be $500 million this year, and for our adjusted effective tax rate to be approximately 19%, which is consistent with our prior outlook. Putting it all together, we continue to expect adjusted earnings per share for the full year to be in the range of $11.54-$11.70, reflecting growth of 11%-12% over 2023. And finally, our outlook continues to reflect the potential for a slightly more tempered economic environment in the second half of 2024. Now I'll turn the call back over to Cameron.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Thanks, Josh. Moving forward, we remain committed to sharpening our strategic focus and simplifying our business to position Global Payments as the partner of choice for commerce solutions in the markets that we believe have the highest potential. We're finalizing the review of our business that began earlier this year. That work has involved a thoughtful and methodical assessment of our assets... which has helped us to identify meaningful opportunities to better align our organization to drive sustainable growth. Over the last two decades, we have built one of the leading global payments technology companies. As we move into the next phase of growth, we're simplifying our portfolio and streamlining our operations to deliver product-led, customer-centric solutions, while continuing to emphasize service as a key differentiator for our business.

Ultimately, we expect executing on these initiatives will allow us to gain share, free up capital to invest in innovation, and deliver sustainable performance through the cycle. We look forward to providing you with more details on the changes we're making at our investor conference to be held on Tuesday, September 24th in New York City. Winnie?

Winnie Smith (SVP of Investor Relations)

Thanks, Cameron. Before we begin our question-and-answer session, I'd like to ask everyone to limit their questions to one, with one follow-up, to accommodate everyone in the queue. Thank you. Operator, we'll now go to questions.

Operator (participant)

If you wish to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. That is star one if you wish to ask a question. Your first question comes from the line of Ramsey El-Assal from Barclays. Your line is open.

Ramsey El-Assal (Managing Director)

Thanks for taking my question. Given the sort of unstable macro environment, could you give us your latest thoughts with the inclusion of EVO and everything else you've got going on in your business, about the split between discretionary and nondiscretionary volumes in merchant? You know, how much of the portfolio is exposed to credit versus debit and things like that?

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Hey, Ramsey. Good morning. It's Cameron. I'll maybe comment on that. Look, my own perspective on the discretionary, nondiscretionary split is it's a bit arbitrary these days. I think, you know, what's discretionary to one person may be nondiscretionary to another and, and vice versa. I think we've always looked at our portfolio as being very well diversified across what have been traditionally considered discretionary and nondiscretionary verticals. And I think even post-EVO, you know, we're still in a position where as I look at the, the mix of business we have today, I think we're very well diversified. We're very well diversified geographically, I think, around the globe. We're very well diversified across vertical markets. We're very well diversified kind of across revenue streams as well.

So as I think about the overall mix of the business, you know, particularly against the backdrop of, again, a somewhat uncertain macro environment, you know, I remain very confident in the resilience and durability of the model that we've built, you know, largely on the back of a business that's pretty well diversified, again, across different types of payments businesses with our merchant and issuer mix, as well as different verticals, different geographies, et cetera. So I think the mix of business we have is good, and it positions us well for whatever macro environment we may face as we continue to move forward.

Ramsey El-Assal (Managing Director)

Thanks. And a follow-up from me. You called out ProFac as being an important driver of new ISV signings. Can you comment a little more on how ProFac increases the sort of ISV TAM for you guys? What types of clients are you now signing with ProFac that you weren't before? Is it just merchant, you know, sort of client size, or is there some other axes to look at it on?

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, it's a good question, Ramsey. The way I think about the ProFac business is it largely fills a need in the market for clients who need some payment facilitation capabilities, largely around the onboarding experience that that delivers to merchants, and some of the funding flexibility that comes through payment facilitation capabilities. But they are not scaled enough to be able to take on all the responsibilities of being a payment facility, particularly as it relates to underwriting, risk management, et cetera. So it fills a nice niche in the market for, you know, I would say on average, probably smaller ISVs that need some payment facilitation capabilities, but really aren't in a position to take on all the burdens of that themselves.

And I think that sort of middle-of-the-ground solution that we've been able to offer has been very well received by the market, and it does kinda open up a new area where, I think before, you know, we had not been as successful in signing kinda ISV partners. So I think what I'm most pleased about as it relates to the integrated business is obviously the ongoing sort of consistent growth that we're seeing in that channel, but the, and continued investment in capabilities to make sure that we sustain our leadership position in that market and our ability to sort of tailor our offerings to meet specific needs of ISV customers in the marketplace and compete very effectively against other, solution providers.

Ramsey El-Assal (Managing Director)

Perfect. Thanks.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Thanks, Ramsey.

Operator (participant)

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Kupferberg of Bank of America. Your line is open.

Jason Kupferberg (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Thank you, guys. Good morning. I wanted to ask about merchant volume growth to start. Saw it came in at 6%. I think organically, that was maybe a tick down of a couple of points, if I'm not mistaken. Can you talk a little bit about what maybe drove that detail? I'm guessing, you know, leap year was probably worth a point, but also looked like there was a little bit of decoupling of the volume versus the revenue growth. They had kind of been on top of each other for a period of time, so I don't know if that was mix related. I appreciate any thoughts on that.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, I'll make a couple comments. I would say it would decline sequentially about a point. If you look at our sort of revenue ex takepayments, it was up roughly kind of 7.5 organically, year-over-year, volumes up six. So last quarter it was, I think, eight and seven. So generally, I would say a pretty consistent trend that we've seen sequentially, Q1, Q2. I think to your point, leap year probably had a little bit of impact. The macro, obviously, other networks and competitors have reported and generally seen the same trends as it relates to the overall volume environment and macro environment more broadly. So I don't think that's really unique to us. takepayments delivers, you know, on the balance, you know, slightly more revenue than it does volume contribution.

I think net-net, we're sort of still within a point of each other as it relates to organic revenue growth and volume that we saw in the business.

Jason Kupferberg (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Okay, that's helpful. And then on merchant margins, up 30 basis points in the quarter, that was a bit better, I think, than the guide. The guide was for flat. So wondering what drove that, and maybe if you can just speak to kind of your confidence level in the full year guide. I know we're still talking about up to 30 basis points, but, do we feel like the probability of getting all the way to 30 is, is higher based on where we are in the year and, you know, what you see in front of you in terms of the incremental cost synergies from EVO?

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, Jason, it's a good question. Maybe I'll start, and I'll ask Josh to jump in. I would just say, overall, you know, we're very pleased with the margin expansion we saw in the merchant business, and I would just note that's despite absorbing takepayments that comes in at roughly half of our margin today. So yeah, we did, you know, perform a little bit better than we expected in the second quarter from a margin expansion perspective in the merchant business. I think it largely reflects kind of continued strong execution and obviously some of the growth trends we're seeing in aspects of the business that have attractive margin profiles for us.

So I think, you know, overall, really, really pleased with the outcome there, as I said, and we grew it, you know, 30 basis points despite absorbing, you know, takepayments that comes in at, again, about half of that margin. The last point I would make is, you know, we're still targeting 30 basis points for the year. Our language is up to 30, but just to be very clear, we're targeting 30 for the year, and I'll let Josh maybe comment a little bit about what we see in the back half.

Josh Whipple (CFO)

Yeah, Jason, so you know, as we think about merchant margins, what I would say is that you know, with the EVO integration, we continue to see you know, synergies flow in. You know, as I mentioned, I think last quarter in 2023, we realized 25% of the $135 million, and this year we expect to go ahead and realize you know, 50%. And you know, as it relates to the back half of the year, you know, we expect you know, merchant margins to be approximately you know, expand 50 basis points. And that gets you down to the up you know, 30 basis points for the full year.

So, you know, we're pretty pleased with, you know, how healthy, you know, the margin expansion looks like, you know, for the overall merchant business.

Jason Kupferberg (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Okay. I assume that would skew a little bit towards Q4 versus Q3, just as we think about cadence. Is that fair, just as synergies build?

Josh Whipple (CFO)

That's fair.

Jason Kupferberg (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Okay.

Josh Whipple (CFO)

Yeah, that, that's fair. That's fair.

Jason Kupferberg (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Thanks.

Operator (participant)

Your next question comes from the line of James Faucette from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

James Faucette (Managing Director)

Great. Thank you very much. I wanted to touch on the ISV channel. It seemed like you'd made some good progress and that kind of thing. I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about how we should be thinking about the growth potential there and what dynamics in that segment may be different than what you see in the rest of your merchant business generally.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, I think it's a fair question, and I'll just start by saying: Look, that's where the market is going. You know, we've talked for many years about the intersection of software and payments, and obviously, we've worked very hard to position our business at that intersection. Because more and more, we see merchant clients, particularly in the SMB space that we serve, making payments decisions largely based on sort of the underlying software technology that they're using to run their business. And obviously, that is true in restaurant and retail, where point of sale is now kind of the mode of competition for payment acceptance in those key vertical markets from a consumer spend standpoint, excuse me, struggled to get that out.

But we also see it across other vertical markets as well, which is why, obviously, we've been leaning into our integrated strategy over the course of many years. We've leaned into our vertical market software strategy over the course of many years, and obviously, we're investing more in point-of-sale capabilities because that's where the market is going. So we think about long-term trends, obviously, particularly within SMB, as I mentioned before, it's all geared around payment decisions being made through the software that these businesses are using to kind of run their business day in and day out, and making sure we're well positioned, either with our ISV partners or through our own software, to continue to benefit from those trends is a core part of how we think about our strategy in the merchant business going forward.

James Faucette (Managing Director)

Got it. Appreciate that. And then, you know, in the press release, you talked about looking for efficiencies and, and the like, and, and clearly that's something you're probably always doing. But is there anything incremental that you're looking at in the second half of the year, and how much are you thinking about that, if at all, to contribute to the margin targets and margin improvement targets you have for this year? And how should we think about, you know, any spillover into 2025? Thanks a lot.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, it's a, it's a really good question, and let me start just by saying, you know, obviously, we, we have our investor conference coming up in September, which we're very much looking forward to, and we're going to lay all this out, I think, in what some might describe as excruciating detail at that point in time. But as I step back and think about it, you know, we see pretty meaningful opportunities to streamline and simplify our business internally. And we think that those opportunities are gonna unlock a fair amount of value that we're going to be able to redeploy in our business to continue to invest in growth-oriented initiatives, as well as continue to improve returns in our business, you know, and certainly returns on invested capital in our business.

So, you know, these are meaningful enough opportunities that we certainly think they're worth pursuing, and we intend to lay all of that out, you know, for you in the September investor conference. As it relates to 2024, none of that's really reflected in our 2024 outlook. I would say the back half of the year, the margin expansion targets are largely geared towards what's happening in the business today. And most of the expectations as it relates to sort of the opportunities we see to streamline, simplify, and unlock value, those are sort of 2025 and beyond kind of benefits that we would expect to be able to, to realize. And again, we'll share more of those details as we get to, to our investor conference.

Operator (participant)

Your next question comes from the line of Darrin Peller from Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Darrin Peller (Managing Director)

Thanks, guys. Nice job on the quarter. I want to touch on the underlying driver of the merchant business, 'cause... So Cameron, if you could just maybe revisit and break it down by obviously the ISV business, the verticals, the software business you have, and then maybe just the businesses in terms of the growth and the margin profile that's contributing. Just noticing that, you know, margins obviously outperformed in the merchant side in the quarter, even despite what you said, which is takepayments coming on as a, I think, diluted margin. You were able to offset that and outperform on margins. So I guess we'd love to hear more about what's driving the strength on the merchant side of the business to sustain and the margin profile of each of those businesses that's allowing you to be.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, maybe I'll start, and I'll ask Josh to share a few perspectives as well. You know, I'll maybe head my comments a little bit, Darrin, just by saying a lot of this is good fodder for our conversation as we get into September and we sort of frame up the business the way we think about it as a go-forward matter. But clearly, you laid out a few key sort of things that probably are worth spending a little time on this morning. So as we think about the business today, obviously, you know, we, as I mentioned before, are very focused on the merchant business positioning as it relates to the intersection of software and payments.

You know, we continue to think that is the future of the SMB space and the markets that are core to us today, you know, most specifically the U.S., and that's going to continue to be the trend of evolution in markets outside of the U.S. over a longer period of time. So our ISV strategy, our own software strategy, and maybe most particularly, just given the relevance of retail and restaurant from a consumer spend perspective to our business, our point-of-sale software strategies are really core to where we want to drive the business over a longer period of time. Those are healthy, technology-led businesses. They are continuing to grow, and they're continuing to scale, and they're continuing to contribute, you know, to the overall margin expansion we're seeing in the business.

So I think that's as we step back and think about, you know, sort of where are we going, it's largely driven by our investments in those areas, our ability to continue to differentiate through technology and obviously generate margins and scale those businesses in a way that contribute to the overall rates, of margin expansion for our business. As we think about more traditional payments markets, you know, they may not grow at the same pace as our technology-enabled or software-oriented businesses, but they generally have, you know, stable growth rates, and they have, you know, higher margins.

Those margins may not drive the same sort of margin expansion for our business overall, but they contribute a lot of cash that obviously allows us to invest in the more growth-orienting, oriented and margin-expanding sort of elements of the business, so that we can get to that overall mix of, of margins that we're targeting and margin expansion that we're targeting for the business. And then, of course, there's markets, you know, internationally that we're growing nicely as well. We're continuing to scale our businesses as well, and that is contributing to sort of margin expansion in our overall kind of merchant business. And then lastly, I would just say we benefit, you know, from being a large-scale player. Obviously, we are able to spread those fixed costs across a large global, you know, scaled merchant acquiring businesses.

As we think about, you know, the business going forward, and I've talked about this before, we're very focused on ensuring that we're sort of leaning into markets where we are a scale player today or have clear line of sight to becoming a scale player. You know, in markets that we're not a scale player today, and we don't have clear line of sight to becoming a scale player over time, I think we need to think hard about, you know, whether we should be in those markets, and that's been a big part of what we've been looking at as part of our strategic review. So more to come on that in September, but I think hopefully that gives you some sense as to how we think about it at a macro perspective.

Darrin Peller (Managing Director)

That's really helpful. Can I just ask one quick follow-up on financials for a minute? The free cash did come in strong again, you know, better as we had hoped. I think you had about 81 or 80, 80%-81% conversion of GAAP versus what looks like 90%+ adjusted conversion. And I know a lot of it is timing dynamics on working capital, so just revisit that for a minute and just maybe reiterate if you still feel good about the timing, working capital dynamics helping improve as we keep going through the year and even better from these levels.

Josh Whipple (CFO)

Yeah, Darrin, you know, we, we fully expect to go ahead and convert out of the 100%, you know, this year, you know, less obviously the, the R&D tax credit, which is about, you know, five points. But I think that the big change that you saw on a year-over-year basis is, you know, the, the growth in the business and operating income, you know, lower interest expense and a, and a change in working capital. But again, this is something that, that we continue to go ahead and, and manage very, very closely, and, and we feel, you know, confident with regard to our initial guide of a 100% conversion, you know, excluding the, the R&D tax credit, you know, for the full year.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Darrin, it's Cameron. I'll just add a couple things. We provided a little more sort of granularity around our reporting of Adjusted Free Cash Flow that we think will be helpful. We've broken out customer deposits, and we provided a little bit of historical data as it relates to taxes that we paid around gains from the dispositions of Netspend and our gaming business, which I think is just helpful for historical context. But, you know, as we think about the go forward, we're highly focused on free cash flow and obviously our conversion rates in the business and improving our quality of earnings and our quality of Adjusted Free Cash Flow. And I think you start to see that, you know, play out in Q2, and we were really pleased with the overall result.

Darrin Peller (Managing Director)

It's really helpful, Cameron. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Josh.

Operator (participant)

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Schmidt from Citi. Your line is open.

Andrew Schmidt (Equity Research Analyst)

Hey, Cameron. Hey, Josh. Good results here. Thanks for taking my questions. You know, just speaking of the legacy parts of the business, could you just talk about the direct sales channel, you know, where that's targeted today, sales efficiency, you know, and the strategy there in terms of just the direct sales efforts? Thanks a lot, guys.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

... Yeah, good morning, and maybe I'll just start by saying, you know, the term legacy sort of makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up a little bit. We don't think about the business in that context. We have what we would characterize as sort of more traditional go-to-market strategies, you know, in our business, and you called out specifically our direct distribution, you know, here in the U.S. market. You know, we've been working for some time, and I think we're accelerating our investments and plans to really start to reorient, you know, that distribution as much as possible towards selling more technology-enabled, technology-enabled solutions. So we have opened up, you know, our integrated business more and allowed our direct distribution channels to begin to sell integrated, and we're leaning into that.

We are building by really reorienting a portion of our direct distribution channel today to developing a point-of-sale software sales team, you know, that is focused on selling point-of-sale software solutions directly into the market. But as it relates to, you know, the overall direct distribution channel, it remains a very productive channel. They continue to drive year-over-year growth in new bookings. They continue to be very effective in terms of selling traditional payment capabilities into the market. You know, more of what they're selling today, obviously, are omni-channel solutions and have some more complexity associated with them versus, you know, selling traditional bricks on a counter, which is the way the business was kind of back in the mid to late teens.

But, you know, as time progresses, we are very focused on continuing to reorient distribution around where we see the best growth opportunities in the business, and that's clearly around our technology-enabled strategies, both the ISV channel and directly selling our software capabilities, where we think we can, you know, build direct distribution teams around that. So that's really the future of the business, and we'll continue to invest against reorienting distribution in that manner over a longer period of time.

Andrew Schmidt (Equity Research Analyst)

Got it. Thank you, Cameron. I hear you on the word legacy. That makes a lot of sense. Just on the outlook for the merchant segment, obviously, layering takepayments, it sounds like a little bit more of a moderate macro, you know, assumption in there. Is there anything else? Is it just moderate macro, or are there any other puts and takes to consider in the outlook? Thanks a lot, guys.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

It's. I'd say the main take is just FX.

Andrew Schmidt (Equity Research Analyst)

Yeah.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

You know, we kind of went into the year expecting FX to be a little bit better in the back half of the year than we're currently forecasting. It's obviously very volatile, you know, and as I've said many times, if I could predict what FX rates are going to be, I probably wouldn't be sitting in this seat. I'd be doing more leisurely things. But be that as it may, you know, we currently expect, you know, FX in the back half of the year to largely offset, you know, the contribution from takepayments. So hopefully, we're wrong on that assumption, but I think that's a prudent assumption for the time being, and that's kind of what we baked into the outlook. So I think beyond that, the rest of the puts and takes are relatively small and on the margin.

You know, obviously confident in reiterating and reaffirming the guide today, and I'll just let Josh provide a little bit more context as well.

Josh Whipple (CFO)

Yeah. So I think as you think about the second half of the year, it's, you know, we still expect, you know, margin growth in the 7%-8% range. And, you know, as, you know, Cameron, you mentioned, this includes roughly a point of contribution from takepayments, which will largely offset FX. And then for the full year, we still expect, you know, merchant revenue to be in the 9%+ range. So, we feel pretty good about that.

Andrew Schmidt (Equity Research Analyst)

Got it. Thank you, guys, very much.

Josh Whipple (CFO)

Thank you.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Your next question comes from the line of Vasu Govil from KBW. Your line is open.

Vasu Govil (Managing Director)

Hi, thanks for taking my question. I guess, Cameron, you talked about the good momentum you were seeing in new partnership signings in the ISV channel. I was just curious-

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah.

Vasu Govil (Managing Director)

If revenue share agreements or economics related to those new partners, how they have evolved over historical trends? Just any color on that would be helpful.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, I mean, I've said in... Good morning. I've said over, you know, the last couple of years, we've obviously seen rev share sort of drift up over the course of time as you've seen more competition in the integrated space. But I'd say over the last, you know, year to 18 months, we've seen probably a more constructive, you know, competitive environment than we had seen the previous, you know, 12-24 months. Just as cost of capital has come up and sort of competitors need to be a little bit more rational with their own economics and how they approach these relationships. I think the competitive environment from a rev share perspective has been fairly constructive, you know, certainly for the last year or so, and our expectation is it will remain fairly constructive over a period of time.

In our experiences, if you have the right solutions, the right capabilities, you can partner with ISVs in the right way, you need to be competitive from a, a rev share perspective, but you don't necessarily have to be at the high watermark of rev shares. And we still see competitors offering fairly aggressive rev shares in some circumstances, but that's typically where they don't have a lot to offer, you know, the ISV outside of that sort of pure payments relationship. And one of the ways we've been able to differentiate ourselves is obviously the breadth and depth of capabilities that we think we bring across traditional integrated payment facilitation and the middle-of-the-road sort of ProFac model that we have.

But also the breadth and depth of commerce enablement, embedded commerce solutions that we can deliver, which enriches the experience for us and the ISV, broadens the base of revenue that we're able to share, you know, on a, on a rev share basis, and I think makes the overall partnership and relationship more constructive for them and, and obviously more constructive for us. And that's a big part of why we've been able to remain, you know, I think, fairly well-positioned competitively from a rev share perspective, you know, without always, again, having to meet the high watermark that may be out there around a, a pure rev share on payments alone.

Vasu Govil (Managing Director)

That's helpful, and we're obviously all very looking forward to the Investor Day. Sort of any preview into what type of, you know, additional disclosure or new KPIs perhaps, that we could expect at the Investor Day?

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, I've been pretty. It's a fair question, and I've been pretty transparent. I think, you know, last quarter and obviously this quarter, I'll just reiterate, we're obviously very focused on providing a full sort of update on, you know, where we see the business going as a strategic matter going forward. Where are we going to focus our attention, our efforts, and our investment? And a big part, I think, of any strategy is also what does that mean you're not going to do? And so we look forward to giving a pretty, you know, fulsome update around our strategy and where we see the business going forward, how we are going to frame up the business kind of around that strategy, the critical initiatives that we are pursuing to continue to advance that strategy and execute against it.

Then, of course, the KPIs and metrics that we're looking at to judge our own performance as to how we are gaining ground against, you know, the key initiatives that we think are important to achieving the strategy that we have. So all that, we would expect to be able to frame up for you at our investor conference, and then that will be coupled with a conversation around our efforts to continue to streamline and simplify our business and how we are organizing ourselves internally. Some of the moves we are making to ensure we have the most nimble, agile business we can, that we remain very customer-centric in our product approach. We continue to build differentiated products and capabilities that we think compete favorably in the market.

And then we're able to then couple that with further differentiation around the service experience that our clients are able to enjoy from us. And so we look forward to being able to share more around that streamlining and simplifying effort and what we think then that will unlock from a value creation standpoint, and how we'll redeploy that in some areas that we want to invest in the business, but also how that will flow through to drive better returns as we look forward in time. All against the backdrop of, you know, our efforts to, I think, again, simplify our business, improve our quality of earnings, be very focused on free cash flow generation, and driving better return on capital in our business as we move forward.

Vasu Govil (Managing Director)

Thank you very much.

Operator (participant)

Your next question comes from the line of Bryan Bergin from TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Bryan Bergin (Managing Director)

Hi, good morning. Thank you. I wanted to ask on the embedded commerce success, it really sounds like that's clicked here, specifically calling out the 70%+ attach of those solutions with new customers. Can you just dig in a bit more on the drivers of that success? Are there aspects of the selling strategy that have evolved to really drive this?

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, it's a really good question. I think what we've generally seen is we've done a better job of finding ways and encouraging, you know, our, our sales professionals to find opportunity to attach other value-added services to the pure payment experience with our, with our clients. As I, as I mentioned in my response to the integrated question, clearly that has been attractive to our integrated partners. A lot of the commerce enablement or embedded commerce solutions we can deliver really resonate with them. It makes their own software, you know, more competitive in the marketplace. It gives them another channel, I think, to help differentiate their solutions. And obviously, it improves kind of the rev shares and revenue opportunity that they see through the partner with, partnership with us.

So a lot of our ISV partners are very focused on continuing to lean into our embedded commerce solutions and finding ways to distribute those through their channels, you know, in partnership with us. On the direct side, again, we're seeing much the same. I called out specifically around point-of-sale, what we're seeing, you know, very strong, you know, attach rates for customer loyalty, particularly for our card-linked loyalty solutions around our point-of-sale businesses. But we're also seeing, again, good, strong attach rates around our cross-selling efforts for human capital management and payroll.

So I would say, across the board, a strategy that we really set out to, to pursue a few years ago around finding more ways to wrap value around the payment experience, which is really where we started, has continued to evolve in more of this embedded commerce strategy and our ability to attach more commerce enablement solutions around the pure payment capabilities we're delivering to clients. And it's just further, you know, enriching the relationships that we have with our clients. It's making us more relevant to them. It's allowing us to differentiate better in the marketplace. And I think, again, it'll be a core part of how we think about driving our strategy as we move forward in time.

I think, obviously, a big focus for us is, you know, where are the areas that we want to invest from a commerce enablement or embedded commerce solution to continue to drive that richer experience and more differentiated offering, you know, relative to, to where our competitors are.

Bryan Bergin (Managing Director)

Okay, that's helpful. And then good improvement on free cash flow here in the quarter. I guess, following what you've earmarked for debt reduction as you consider uses of cash, do you, do you expect to maintain this kind of level of repo in the second half? Are you balancing that against anything else in near-term M&A pipeline that might be attractive?

Josh Whipple (CFO)

No, look, you know, we're very focused on getting back to our 3x targeted leverage point in the back half of the year. We expect to go ahead and pay down you know close to $1 billion in debt just from free cash flow. So, we'll continue to go ahead and delever through the balance of the year, and we expect to get right back down to that low 3x mark that we talked about previously.

Bryan Bergin (Managing Director)

All right. Thanks.

Josh Whipple (CFO)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Your next question comes from the line of Dave Koning from Baird. Your line is open.

Dave Koning (Senior Research Analyst)

Yeah. Hey, guys. Thank you, and nice job. One other way to ask-

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Thanks, Dave.

Dave Koning (Senior Research Analyst)

Yeah, yeah. And, and one way to ask the margin question: for many quarters until EVO, you were generating kind of 50%-65% incremental margin on revenue growth, and then it stepped down to, like, the 40s, which made sense. And now this quarter, it's stepped back into the range. It was one of the best incrementals in many quarters. Is that 50%-65% the right way to kind of think about it longer term?

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, I think that's probably a fair way to continue to think about it. You know, we talked over the course of, you know, the last few quarters just around the acquisition of EVO, and obviously that rebased margins lower, and we had a fair amount of work to do, I would think, to shore up the EVO environment, to make sure that it was operating at our standards, particularly in markets that we didn't overlap with EVO, where we're having to rely on their technology. And that was somewhat offsetting, you know, the synergy benefits that we were realizing over that period as well. But as we move forward, I think, you know, Q2 is really representative, by and large, of kind of where we see the business as we move forward.

We still have some more synergies to realize around EVO, and we're still investing, obviously, in the business as well. But look, we were pleased with that 30 basis points of margin expansion, you know, in the second quarter. We're targeting 30 basis points for the full year. As we talked about before, as Jeff, as Josh mentioned, that reflects a little bit of uptick in the back half just to get the overall to 30 basis points for the full year. And I think then that gives us kind of a good jumping off point heading into 2025 and kind of really reflects, you know, where the business is going. I'd also note, Dave, and I know you appreciate this, we've had that conversation directly, you know, our margin profile is now close to 50% in merchant.

So it is on average a little easier to expand margins 50-70 basis points a year when you're in the low 40s than it is, you know, when you're in the high 40s. So, you know, that math's not lost on you, I know. But, you know, as we think about the business, we're very, very focused on continuing to drive margin expansion in the merchant segment, and I think we're well positioned to do that. And I think Q2 just sort of gives you a demonstration of, you know, our ability to do that. But more importantly, it's reflecting what we said was going to happen over the last several quarters.

As we continue to execute against synergies, as we've made the investments we need to make to shore up technology environments, you know, we're getting the business sequentially, continually back to sort of par post-EVO, and now we're seeing expansion. And, you know, obviously, we're pleased with that outcome.

Dave Koning (Senior Research Analyst)

Yeah. Great, thanks. And maybe just one follow-up. Quality of earnings, you highlighted several times. Merchant integration costs around the lowest in five years this quarter. Does that continue to go down? And maybe when are we gonna be at a point of just, you know, no more add backs?

Josh Whipple (CFO)

Yeah, you know, look, Dave, so, you know, I think we've shown a real positive trend, as it relates to integration expenses over the last 3-4 quarters, and they've continued to go ahead and trend lower, so as we said, they would. And if you think about it, you know, we're now about a year and a half, you know, into the integration of EVO, and we said that we would, you know, complete that, you know, two years out, which would be in the March of 2025 time frame, you know, where we'd expect to go ahead and achieve $135 million in run rate synergies.

So again, you know, I would—I think you can fully expect the integration expenses to continue to go ahead and trend lower through the balance of the year as we get closer to that time period that we called out, when we initially announced the transaction. And I also would say, you know, Dave, if you look at our quality of earnings, they have, you know, continued to go ahead and improve. And again, you know, our GAAP relative to adjusted is over 50% in this quarter, and we would continue to expect that to increase higher.

Dave Koning (Senior Research Analyst)

Great. Thank you.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Thanks, Dave.

Operator (participant)

Our last question comes from the line of Tien-tsin Huang from JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Tien-tsin Huang (Senior Analyst)

Hey, good morning. It's really encouraging to see the merchant and volume spread here stay positive. I think it's a couple points. So anything unusual there? And do you expect that favorable spread to continue in the second half? It sounds like the software side and integrated side is growing double digits. So my guess is yes, but wanted to hear from you.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, I think we do, Tien-tsin, and thanks for the question. Obviously, you know, we've talked a lot about point of sale. We're seeing good momentum in point of sale. You know, point of sale drives a different revenue stream for us, you know, versus just the pure payment experience. And obviously, that's somewhat contributing to, you know, what we're seeing on the revenue side versus what we're seeing kind of on the volume side. I think our goal as we continue to move forward in time is always want those two things to be correlated.

You know, but obviously, as we continue to invest in point of sale, we continue to invest in embedded commerce solutions, we continue to invest in areas to further differentiate ourselves beyond the pure payment economics, you know, many of those revenue streams aren't purely tied to volume. So we're hopeful we continue to see, you know, sort of continued growth in revenue that may, you know, outpace volume. But I don't want those two trends to become uncorrelated over time, because when we're selling those capabilities, it's generally driving, you know, a payment experience as well, and we hope to see volume continue to drive forward from that point also.

Tien-tsin Huang (Senior Analyst)

Perfect. Thank you for that. And just on the issuing side, Cameron, I'm just curious on the pipeline front. There's a lot going on with, you know, the litigation being pushed out, and I know Visa's announced a few new things like Flex Credentials. I'm just curious if you're seeing any demand change, or activity with respect to, you know, issuer, either conversions or de novo activity.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Yeah, I would, I would say, Tien-tsin, certainly in the, in the short to medium term, we feel good about how we're positioned, you know, with that business. We're executing really well. You know, the things we can control in that business are, are generally, you know, progressing very nicely. We've got 65 million kind of accounts on file in our conversion pipeline. We've got seven LOIs that we're working to convert to full contracts right now. We are seeing new opportunities emerge. We called out, you know, Amadeus this quarter as it relates to being the first kind of customer, first fintech customer in Europe, leveraging our cloud-based, you know, in AWS capabilities. So we feel good about the further expansion of that product set as, as we move forward as well.

So we are seeing, you know, I would say, good momentum on the commercial and sales side of the business. We've got good metrics to demonstrate that, you know, in the short to medium term, you know, we're well positioned to continue to grow that business at a very stable level. I think long term, you know, it's largely our ability to grow and accelerate growth in that business is tied to what we're doing around modernization. And as I called out in my script today, you know, we are very much tracking towards completing development of the customer-facing sort of applications by the end of this year. We're in pilot with a number of customers already, and obviously, I think that positions us to be in market with those solutions in 2025.

I think that clearly is important to kind of unlocking new opportunities for that business, not only across sort of the segments of the FI channel that we can support and different geographies around the globe that we can attack, but I think more importantly, some of the more developing use cases that we're seeing around cards, you know, that I think require our capabilities to be consumed a little bit differently than they've been able to be consumed historically. You know, that's something we're gonna be able to deliver through our modernization investment. So better enablement capabilities for our clients, more consumability of our sort of, I think, market-leading solutions. I think that really will go a long way to kinda unlocking some of the use cases that I think you were alluding to in your question.

We're excited, obviously, to be able to start bringing that about as we get into 2025 and beyond.

Tien-tsin Huang (Senior Analyst)

Got it. No, it's a good update. See you in September.

Cameron Bready (CEO)

Thanks, Tien-tsin. Well, on behalf of Global Payments, thank you very much for joining us this morning. I hope everyone has a great day. I appreciate your interest in our company.

Operator (participant)

That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating and you may disconnect.

Everyone else has left the call.