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Hilton Grand Vacations Inc. (HGV)·Q3 2025 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q3 2025 showed strong underlying demand but headline results were dampened by $99M of revenue deferrals tied to projects under construction; reported revenue was $1.300B, net income $25M ($0.28), and Adjusted EBITDA to stockholders $245M .
- Underlying sales momentum was robust: contract sales rose 16.7% to $907M, with tours up 1.9% and VPG up 14.7% YoY; resort & club remained steady with 69.9% margins .
- Management reiterated FY25 Adjusted EBITDA guidance (ex deferrals/recognitions) of $1.125–$1.165B and expects 65–70% EBITDA-to-Adjusted FCF conversion; they plan ~$600M of 2025 capital returns via buybacks (3.3M shares, $150M in Q3; $47M more through Oct 23) .
- S&P Global consensus context: Revenue ex reimbursements and EBITDA came in below S&P measures, while adjusted EPS was $0.60; adjusting for deferrals, management’s EBITDA run-rate was ~ $302M, near consensus (see Estimates Context) .
- Catalysts: continued HGV Max adoption (surpassed 250k Max members), Bluegreen synergy run-rate at ~$94M (target $100M), $400M ABS at 4.69% WAC and Japan securitization platform to support cash generation and returns .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Broad-based sales strength with record pro forma contract sales: $907M (+16.7% YoY), tours +1.9%, VPG +14.7% YoY; double-digit VPG gains across mainland regions, including +10% in Las Vegas .
- HGV Max momentum and Bluegreen integration: >250k HGV Max members (+70k TTM), run-rate cost synergies reached $94M (near $100M goal); cross-brand benefits and new AI-powered “My Explorer” chat for members .
- Financing optimization and liquidity: completed $400M ABS (WAC 4.69%, 96% advance), executed Japan ABS (¥9.5B at 1.41%), finished Q3 with $215M cash and $632M revolver capacity, and reiterated 65–70% FCF conversion target .
What Went Wrong
- Accounting deferrals muted reported results: $99M of VOI sales deferrals and $42M of associated expense deferrals reduced GAAP revenue and Adjusted EBITDA by a net $57M in Q3 .
- Margin headwinds from growth investments and incentives: elevated package marketing spend (~$7M incremental) and higher FDIs (1–1.5 pts, $9–$15M impact) compressed flow-through; $8M of late-quarter sales fell into Q4 due to rescission timing .
- Rental & ancillary softness persisted, particularly in Las Vegas (market-wide promotional pressure); segment posted a $(4)M loss vs $5M profit LY, though stabilization signs noted .
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Management Commentary
- “We delivered broad-based operational and financial performance across key channels and geographies in the third quarter, reflecting the strength of our brand and our business model.” – CEO Mark Wang .
- “Adjusted for $99M of sales deferrals and $42M of associated expense deferrals, Adjusted EBITDA to shareholders would increase by a net $57M to ~$302M.” – CFO Dan Mathewes .
- “We reached $94 million in our run-rate cost synergies… and remain on track with the targeted $100 million in savings.” – CEO Mark Wang .
- “Our ABS market remains open and functioning… This, coupled with our $850 million warehouse, gives us confidence we can execute on our finance optimization strategy.” – CFO Dan Mathewes .
- “We’ve upgraded our proprietary My Explorer chat box to provide our members a personalized AI‑powered tool tailored to their membership profile.” – CEO Mark Wang .
Q&A Highlights
- 2026 outlook: Management sees momentum carrying into 2026 with tour flow as the primary driver of contract sales growth; expects operating cost leverage and sustained strong FCF; financing margins could face some headwinds as optimization continues but may hold or improve depending on rates .
- VPG strength drivers: Broad-based geography/channel gains; HGV Max upgrades and newer member cohorts support higher engagement; owner and new buyer VPGs both contributed .
- Flow-through pressures and P&L puts/takes: ~$7M incremental package marketing expense recognized upfront; elevated FDIs by 1–1.5 pts ($9–$15M impact) and ~$8M of late-quarter sales past rescission into Q4 compressed Q3 flow-through .
- Rental recovery path: Lower developer maintenance fees as recapture progresses and resort rebrands to Hilton drive ADR and OTA cost benefits over time; potential inorganic solutions for non-core inventory .
- Cash conversion and inventory: FY25/FY26 inventory spend ~just under $400M before reverting to ~$300M run-rate; cash taxes mid-teens % of EBITDA; maintain 65–70% FCF conversion target .
Estimates Context
- Wall Street consensus (S&P Global) vs. reported:
- Primary EPS: 0.94* vs actual adjusted diluted EPS $0.60 → miss* [Adjusted diluted EPS from press release: $0.60] .
- Revenue (ex cost reimbursements): $1.368B* vs $1.168B* actual → miss* (GAAP total revenue was $1.300B, including $132M of cost reimbursements) .
- EBITDA: $299.1M* vs $213.0M* actual → miss*; however, management stated Adjusted EBITDA to shareholders would be
$302M excluding net deferrals ($57M), closer to consensus .
Values retrieved from S&P Global.*
Context: The company’s accounting for VOI sales under construction deferred ~$99M of revenue and ~$42M of related expenses in Q3, reducing reported Adjusted EBITDA by a net ~$57M; adjusting for this moves EBITDA closer to consensus .
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Underlying demand remains healthy: record contract sales and double‑digit VPG growth supported by HGV Max upgrades and better tour quality; this should sustain revenue conversion into 2026 as packages convert to tours .
- Headline misses vs S&P Global measures were largely timing/deferral-driven; on a “deferral‑adjusted” basis, EBITDA was ~in line with consensus, narrowing the perceived gap .
- Cash generation remains the story: 65–70% EBITDA-to-Adjusted FCF conversion reiterated, supported by recurring resort/club profits (~70% margin) and ABS execution in the U.S. and Japan .
- Capital returns are sizable: ~$600M targeted repurchases in 2025; $497M YTD through Oct 23; $531M authorization remains, providing support to EPS and downside protection .
- Watch margin levers near term: elevated marketing spend and FDIs weighed on Q3 margins but should translate to future tours/sales; as recapture lowers maintenance fees and rebrands roll through, rental drag should ease .
- Inventory spend normalizing: after 2025/2026 near-peak spend (~just under $400M each), LT run-rate to ~$300M supports higher sustained FCF and returns .
- Risk monitor: Las Vegas rental softness, macro policy volatility, and credit performance (though delinquencies and defaults remain stable around ~10%) .
Additional Context and Events (Q3 2025)
- $400M U.S. term ABS completed at 4.69% WAC and 96% advance rate, reflecting strong market access .
- Secondary offering by Apollo-managed entities (7M shares) with concurrent $40M company repurchase authorization under the offering .
- Liquidity at quarter-end: $215M cash, $632M revolver capacity; corporate debt $4.7B (5.98% W.A. rate), non-recourse debt $2.5B (5.10% W.A. rate); TTM net leverage ~4.0x .