Intellicheck - Earnings Call - Q2 2025
August 12, 2025
Executive Summary
- Record Q2 revenue of $5.123M (+10% y/y) with SaaS at $5.080M (+10% y/y); gross margin 89.8% and Adjusted EBITDA turned positive at $0.075M, while GAAP EPS was ($0.01).
- Revenue modestly beat Wall Street consensus ($5.123M vs $5.008M estimate), while EPS missed GAAP vs consensus (($0.01) vs ($0.005) estimate); Q1 also beat revenue and missed EPS vs consensus (context in Estimates section). Values retrieved from S&P Global.
- Mix shift continues: banking/lending ~38% of Q2 revenue, retail ~25% (retail volumes down y/y), with ongoing expansion in title insurance, auto, notary, and background checks; AWS migration ~95% complete with >$300K expected annual savings. Retail down y/y was more than offset by strong banking growth; management highlighted multi‑year expansions at major financials and a new three‑year regional bank contract with invoicing that began in July (impacting Q3).
- Key catalysts: (1) Regional bank contract step-up active for full Q3; (2) social media client fix/embedding scan tech could unlock large volume ramp once integration issue is resolved; (3) AWS savings and channel partnerships/credit union platform access underpin margin and pipeline execution.
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
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What Went Well
- Multi‑year upsells/renewals with marquee financials: large regional bank signed a three‑year deal (year one “low seven figures,” ramps in years 2–3; invoicing began July), and a large bank/card issuer moved to a new three‑year tiered contract pacing mid‑seven‑figure ACV.
- Pricing power and vertical diversification improved resilience: continued focus on higher price-per-scan verticals (title insurance, auto, notary, background checks); CFO noted strong pricing and mix benefits.
- Infrastructure and cost efficiency: ~95% of clients migrated to AWS with expected savings >$300K annually; migration also improves onboarding, data feeds, and platform agility.
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What Went Wrong
- Social media client integration issue: a code change on the client side caused failure to process “nearly all” documents; engineering teams are working to embed Intellicheck scanning earlier in the workflow to restore volumes.
- Retail softness persisted: retail volumes down 2% q/q and ~20% y/y in Q2; banking growth offset, but retail remains a headwind.
- GAAP profitability still negative: net loss of ($0.251M) and diluted EPS ($0.01), though adjusted EBITDA turned positive; R&D capitalization largely complete, implying more R&D expense will hit P&L beginning Q3.
Transcript
Speaker 3
you and welcome to the Intellicheck Q2 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Should anyone require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Gar Jackson, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Speaker 5
Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today for the Intellicheck second quarter 2025 earnings call. Before we get started, I will take a few minutes to read the forward-looking statement. Certain statements in this conference call constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as amended. When used in this conference call, words such as will, believe, expect, anticipate, encourage, and similar expressions, as to relate to the company's management, as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to the company's management, identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs about future events.
As with any projection or forecast, they are inherently susceptible to uncertainty and changes in circumstances, and the company undertakes no obligation to, and expressly disclaims any obligation to update or alter its forward-looking statements whether resulting from such changes, new information, subsequent events, or otherwise. Additional information concerning forward-looking statements is contained under the heading of Safe Harbor Statement and risk factors listed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Statements on today's call are as of today, August 12, 2025. Management will use the financial terms adjusted EBITDA and adjusted gross margin on today's call. Please refer to the company's press release issued this afternoon for further definition, reconciliation, and context for the use of these terms.
We'll begin today's call with Bryan Lewis, Intellicheck Chief Executive Officer, and then Adam Sragovicz, Intellicheck Chief Financial Officer, who will discuss the second quarter financial results. Following their prepared remarks, we will take questions from our analysts and institutional investors. Today's call will be limited to one hour, and I will now turn the call over to Bryan. Thanks, Gar, and thank you all for joining us for today's earnings call. Our second quarter's total revenue grew to $5.1 million from $4.7 million in the prior year period, with an adjusted EBITDA of $75,000 for the quarter, which is a $145,000 improvement versus a year ago period. Additionally, we ended the quarter with $8.6 million in cash at quarter end, an increase of $3.5 million versus a $5.1 million balance at the end of the first quarter.
During the second quarter, we had some significant achievements that I will recap for you. Among the highlights we will be discussing are the multi-year expansions of our relationships with some of our major banks and credit card issuer clients, including the significant upsell we accomplished with the leading regional banks headquartered in the Southeastern U.S. We will also be sharing with you the results of our efforts on contract renewals, where we are demonstrating continued strength, as well as some new wins. We will discuss organizational moves that we've made within our sales staff and some metrics that show that our marketing spend, while lower than last year, is showing significant gains. Additionally, we've made major progress on our AWS customer migration project that was undertaken for a multitude of reasons. During the second quarter, we announced some very exciting news on that regional bank front.
We completed the extensive contract negotiations with the large regional banks, as well as all of the integration work. They began their rollout, and we began invoicing that bank in July. As a reminder, this three-year contract has year-one revenues in the low seven-figure range and ramps in year two and three to have a total contract value in the very high seven figures over the contract duration. I'm also pleased to report that the large bank and credit card issuer that is using our technology in branch, online, in their call center, in their auto loan group, for the issuance of new white label credit cards and for account lookup that has been buying buckets, has now signed to a new three-year tiered contract that is pacing at an annual contract value in the mid-seven-figure range.
We believe this is yet another demonstration of the value add that Intellicheck's technology provides for our customers and their clients across multiple market verticals. We believe that there is great promise for further expansion of our relationships with our largest clients across all sectors. With the addition of our SVP of Customer Experience and Account Management, Sandra Bauer, and the changes she has made to the customer success team, many new initiatives are starting with large clients. The two three-year agreements previously discussed are examples of those changes working. In another example of doing more with existing clients, one of our top three clients added a 50-location department store retailer that went live late in the quarter. In addition to credit cards, this client also has a significant buy now, pay later business.
They have begun using our authentication at their retailers for that side of the business as well. While retail may be off, it is good to see clients continuing to add retailers and new ways to finance with Intellicheck as the first step. We believe that there is still significant opportunity for growth with both in-mall and off-mall retailers who are dealing with fraud issues. We also believe that what some view as a headwind now will eventually become a tailwind. The more retailers and use cases our clients have using Intellicheck, the stronger that tailwind will be. It is important to note that we continue to see pricing power that shows both our average price per scan and new business price per scan, which were up 25% and 36% respectively versus the prior year.
Part of this is being driven by a shift in the market vertical mix, as we have put more focus on a new and expanding number of verticals that include title insurance, automotive, notary services, and background checks, where we charge a much higher price per scan. The volumes for these clients are lower than large retail chains. At the same time, we have reduced our focus and emphasis on individual bars and restaurants that were both high maintenance and low revenues per venue. This is a perfect example of a market where a channel partner makes sense. Lots of target clients of low revenue per client, so we are now shifting that individual bar and restaurant business to one of our channel partners. Turning now to our social media client. What we were waiting for finally happens.
The volume of ID verification transactions we were expecting finally started coming in. Unfortunately, it appears that this client has recently changed some code on their end, and as a result, we are currently unable to process nearly all of the documents that they are sending. Rest assured, we are working on the situation, and our engineers are in contact with this client's engineering team to find a solution. It was agreed that we would hold a comprehensive in-person meeting to discuss the solution, as well as look at the entire suite of Intellicheck technology offerings to see how we might help them. We believe that the most effective solution is to embed our scanning technology as the first step in their workflow, and that will be one of the topics of discussion.
We are pleased that this has reached the very top of the identity verification management organization there, and both our SVP of Sales, Tim Fluent, and I have spoken with them. I look forward to the engineers finding a solution. I stand by what we shared with you before regarding the crucial role we can play as a partner to this social media giant with our industry-leading technology. The top issue they said they are facing is account takeover and all the issues that come with that for them: reputational ruin, crime, and underage access. Given what we do for all of our financial institutions and our email clients, they understand we can do it for them. We'll keep you posted as new developments occur. On the sales front, I am optimistic about the changes Tim Fluent has made since coming on board in April.
He has revitalized the sales staff with new sales executives who are all seasoned strategic account representatives focused on targeting major accounts. He's also hired a dedicated channel manager to strengthen our coverage in strategic verticals and provide consistent new revenue streams. Although we've had channel partners in place previously, we need to have a substantive focus on driving revenues through these accounts and onboarding new strategic partners. Our new channel manager will have a dual role of both signing up existing partners and driving revenue through our existing partner base. To that point, on previous calls, I've spoken about our commitment to finding companies that provide the backbone software for generally smaller banks and credit unions that want to outsource that function. These software providers are really the only way to reach this potential client base. I am pleased to say that we've signed our first.
We will be going live in November through their platform with a $20 billion credit union and have other credit unions on this platform interested in our solutions. Our channel partner manager is working with their partner manager to build out the launch plan, and you'll see press releases and a lot of marketing around that as we get closer to launch. Our marketing programs have really helped us gain ground in promoting our business value, making our outreach more effective. The more people that know who Intellicheck is and how we stop fraud differently than the rest of our competitors who simply come with the fundamental license, the easier it is for our sales team to get meetings. Looking at some of the stats, it's clear that the new marketing efforts are working.
A few examples of the progress we are making include new inbound prospects are up 30% over Q1. Interest from banking and stimulus users is up 79% on Google Analytics over Q1. LinkedIn impressions are up 300% over Q1. Video views are up 19% over Q1. We also launched the Intellicheck podcast series in Q2 and released five episodes, and we published seven blog posts during the quarter. Both the blog posts and the podcast can be found under the resources tab on our website. My goal here was and remains thought leadership and brand awareness, and we believe the stats and the inbound leads show we are achieving that. In fact, this is a good time to share with you a little color on our revenue breakdown per vertical. Now, keep in mind that there's a fair bit of volatility to these figures for a number of reasons.
For example, we believe the branch banking business will remain fairly consistent. If one of our banks springs on board, or for that matter, loses a retail client, the mix between banking and retail can shift dramatically. In addition, as we have repeatedly said, there is significant seasonality to retail volume. Retail is also volatile because of consumer confidence, tariff concerns, and pricing impacts, and other things that impact retail sales in general. That being said, this is where we believe our Q2 revenue breakdown by vertical stands. Banking and lending contributed approximately 38%. Retail was approximately 25%. Age restrictive was approximately 7%. Audit was approximately 5%. Title insurance was approximately 2%. On the IT product front, we have spoken about the AWS migration from the Azure platform, and I'm pleased to say that we now have approximately 95% of our clients migrated onto the AWS platform.
We expect our savings to be in excess of $300,000 annually going forward. These savings are of particular benefit because we believe they will more than offset the additional GTU spending for AI that is becoming ever more important in what our data science team is doing for future product offerings for our clients and to bolster our current offering. It's important to point out that this migration wasn't solely focused on cost savings. It was also designed to make it easier for our developers to write and release code, and for our Sales Engineers and Customer Success teams to onboard new customers faster and more easily. It also provided standard data feeds that allow for additional risk analytics to inform our clients' decision process. The backend rewrite that makes a move to AWS also made the code base much simpler and platform agnostic.
We can now easily move between cloud providers based on client needs and additional savings. Although we don't anticipate any additional platform migrations at this time, we believe it is good to be in a portable position if necessary. As part of our efforts to raise visibility with both investors and prospects, we are continuing to attend and speak at key conferences. We will be presenting at the Stability MicroCap Conference on August 20, as well as hosting one-on-one meetings. For more information and to schedule meetings, please visit the Stability website at stability.com/events. It isn't necessary to be a Stability client to schedule a meeting or listen to the presentation. On the trade show front, we are looking forward to Finovate Fall, where I will be speaking on September 9. We will also be presenting at MoneyLIVE in Chicago, September 15.
Several of our major banking clients will be attending, and we are looking forward to seeing them and meeting with additional prospects. Finally, we will be participating at the ACAMS, the Association of Certified Anti-Money Laundering Specialists conference, which is scheduled for September 16 to 18 in Las Vegas. I will be speaking there on the 16. I will now turn the call over to Adam, who will go into more details about our financial results.
Speaker 4
Thank you, Bryan. In addition to Gar's forward-looking statements, please note we occasionally use rounding during this call. For more detailed and authoritative financial information, please refer to our press release and to our quarterly report filed earlier today on Form 10-Q with the SEC. It's great to share more details around the numbers of the second quarter of 2025. As Bryan mentioned, our second quarter revenues were 10% higher versus the same period in the prior year. We also saw continued strong pricing up 10% for new business versus the first quarter of 2025. You can see the strategy paying off, pursuing verticals such as auto and title insurance with higher costs per scan. Adjusted EBITDA also improved by $145,000 versus 2024, with a gain of $75,000 for the quarter.
Revenue for the second quarter of 2025 increased 10% to a first-quarter record of $5.1 million compared to $4.7 million in the same period of 2024. Our sales revenue for the second quarter of 2025 was also up 10% to $5.08 million from $4.6 million during the same period of 2024 and represented over 99% of our second quarter revenue. Gross profit as a percentage of revenues was 89.8% for the quarter, which included about 260 basis points of amortization expense related to the software development projects previously discussed. This compares to 90.5% that included about 60 basis points of amortization expense in the second quarter of 2024. Our adjusted gross margin, which you may remember as a new metric we introduced in the first quarter of 2025, improved to 92.2% in Q2 of 2025 compared to 91% in Q2 of 2024.
We capitalized $47,000 this quarter and don't expect to see any more capitalization next quarter. It has been a remarkable journey of modernization for Intellicheck, where Q2 of 2024 cost $781,000 of capitalization expense. This was mostly driven by the software that we have been developing for deployments on AWS that, as Bryan mentioned, is now in production. Operating expenses, which consist of selling, general administrative, marketing, and research and development expenses, increased $455,000 or 10% to $4.9 million for the second quarter of 2025 compared to $4.4 million for the same period of 2024. On an accounting basis, R&D expenses were $528,000 higher in Q2 of 2025. As I just mentioned, we capitalized $781,000 of R&D expenses in Q2 of 2024 and only $47,000 in Q2 of this year. Beginning in Q3, we expect that R&D costs will hit the P&L in their entirety for our current offering.
The weighted average diluted common shares was 19.8 million for the second quarter of 2025 compared to 19.5 million for the same period of 2024. As for the company's liquidity and capital resources, at June 30, 2025, the company had cash and cash equivalents of $8.6 million. We shared with you last quarter that we expect Q2 of 2025 to be a high point in 2025 of cash, but we expect to finish the year higher than where we were in Q1. As we look at the timing of customer payments and future processing costs related to those, we believe that forecasts will hold. At quarter end, there was working capital, which is current assets minus current liabilities, of $7.1 million, total assets of $23.1 million, and stockholders' equity of $18 million.
At this point, you usually talk about liquidity available from financing and the company's $2 million revolving credit facility with Citibank. There are no amounts outstanding under this facility, and the facility was not utilized during 2025. We are gradually winding that relationship down. On another note, you may soon see a final advance three, also known as a shelf registration. This will allow Intellicheck to sell shares in the market efficiently if the need or unusual opportunity arises. You have heard about us past balances being strong, and we don't currently have any reason to sell shares in the market. You may also note that it will be filed without any particular bank or corporate mention. We do see having a registration statement like this on file as being good corporate housekeeping. We are really just renewing the company's previous filing that was made in 2020.
As a CFO and an Intellicheck employee and shareholder, it is gratifying to see the execution of Bryan's and the rest of the leadership strategy. With such a solid cash position, growing revenue, and strong pricing, I am confident in our ability to drive sustainable growth and deliver continued value to our shareholders and customers. We look forward to sharing our Q3 results with you in November. I'll now turn the call over to the operator who will take your questions.
Speaker 3
Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your questions in the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. The first question is from Rudy Grayson Kessinger from D.A. Davidson & Co. Please go ahead.
Speaker 2
Hey, great. Thanks for holding my questions and suggestions on the quarter, and certainly I'm a large deal at that Southeastern regional bank. I want to start there with the regional bank. I know there was a low seven-figure kind of year-one commitment that was a straight line red rec. Has that step up in their revenue begun to flow yet in Q3, or when is it expected to begin generating?
Speaker 5
Yeah. Hey, Rudy. We started invoicing. Remember, they had been a small client for a while. We started invoicing for the bank branches in July.
Speaker 2
Okay. This is a clear last-tech step up in revenue that should be present in fall Q3.
Speaker 5
Correct.
Speaker 2
Okay. Got it. Okay. I want to ask about the social media client. It sounds like there's some integration issues or tech choices you'd like to work through. Just any kind of timeline to a resolution that you have visibility to today? Could you also maybe just, you know, give us a sense of how big this customer could be based on those scan volumes you were seeing prior to this technical issue?
Speaker 5
Visiting is giving me significant clients to us. I know that my team was on with them today. They're continuing to look at the issue. I think one of the things my team is talking to them about is, how do we help them in terms of what they're doing? They've repeatedly said the two of the most important countries to them are the U.S. and Canada. The most important thing in those countries to be able to use for authentication is a driver's license. They love what we're doing, but they also look at their technology. A lot of this is stuff that they built back when everything was more or less manual review, and it's not fast enough for what they need to do.
If things like image quality are poor, and that's the kind of stuff we're talking about, we can tell them that and have it be taken, or we can let them know it's a driver's license, so use your scanner, not a photo. That's what we're going through. They are motivated. We are motivated. It's just now it's a matter of, and they're looking at it, and our team is looking at it, where do they get the resources to do sort of this new work? They're very pleased with what we do. They know they have a problem on their hands, and now it's how do we get it fixed?
The good thing is we're, in my mind, talking at the high enough levels when they said, "Here are the people that are going to get it done because they have financial incentives to do so." We've been working with them since they turned the faucet on, and we're all trying to figure it out as quick as possible. That's all I could say. I wish I could say next Tuesday, but we're working through it.
Speaker 2
Okay. The last one for me, just, what was the update on retail scan volumes in the quarter? Any improvement or further decline from what you saw in Q1? How are things turning there so far in Q3?
Speaker 5
I'd say two things. One is the good thing is banking is more than offsetting retail. Retail was down 2% quarter over quarter, and down 20% year over year, but banking was up 12% Q1 to Q2 and up about 85% year over year.
Speaker 2
Very helpful and good, good to hear the bank side. Thanks for taking the question. Thanks for your update.
Speaker 5
Thanks, Rudy.
Speaker 3
The next question is from Mike Grendel from Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker 0
Hey, guys. This is Logan Hennen from Northland Capital Markets. Thanks for taking our question. First, with SaaS and total revenue up 10% year over year, can you help us quantify that with how that correlates to retail revenue in terms of % of total revenue and how much retail went down year over year? Thanks.
Speaker 5
Retail revenue year over year is down 20%. That's offset by things like banking and other sectors that were up. If you look at the numbers that I gave out on the call, you'll see that they add up to around 76%. The rest of it is other markets. That's where we're looking at where do we have, I like those other kind of little markets, things that are coming to us. Can we look at that as areas of where maybe we should shift some marketing and sales focus? Overall, retail as a percentage of major revenue was 25%, and retail revenue is down 20% year over year.
Speaker 0
Okay. Great. Building on that.
Speaker 5
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 0
Go ahead. Continue.
Speaker 5
Yeah, that's 20% down in the combination of, you know, there are a significant amount of our customer clients in retail who went out of business last year, and then, you know, obviously, you know, the consumer isn't doing as much in some areas as they were before.
Speaker 0
That's great. Building on that, what are some of the smaller verticals you guys are most excited about going forward in terms of do you see taking a bigger piece of the total revenue?
Speaker 5
I would say, it's funny because I was talking to the sales team and helping them with some stuff today. I think my personal belief is background checks is going to be really, in my mind, exciting or smaller for us right now. I'm hearing anywhere from no cuts to four cuts in the interest rate, you know, the Fed rates between now and the end of the year. To me, that could unleash a ton of refinancing. That means a lot of new title insurance needs to be looked at. I think that will be good for us if that happens. In addition to, I think it'll really be helping, just recently, since we looked at it and spending and all that kind of stuff, it would be nice to see that going into the holiday season.
Certainly, we're looking at a lot of things in the gig economy and what's going on, which, in effect, is another type of background check because you read about what's going on with drivers and other things like that. I think consumers are demanding, and I think the providers of those services are realizing that they've got to make sure that they hire who they thought they were hiring. Not only that, the person behind the wheel is the person that they hired because there is a large business out there selling to drivers apps just like renting out an old taxi medallion in New York City. That's where we're looking at more and more, is the person you're hiring who they say they are, especially in a remote world.
Just another story came out the other day about a nurse, supposed pretend nurse, who treated, I think, 4,000 patients just got busted. People have to make sure that they are hiring the right person. I'm kind of excited about that space.
Speaker 0
Got it. One more from us. Anything to call out on the sales pipeline and performance of the sales team now under the leadership of Tim? Thanks.
Speaker 5
I think, pipeline, I think a combination of having, you know, some really good senior guys who know how to really run with the deal, and then also what we're seeing, the leads coming in from the marketing. I mean, it's night and day from what we had when, you know, with the last marketing going on. I love the fact that it's probably less than half the cost, and we're getting probably three times the results. The pipeline is really full. I think, you know, very interesting, you know, not only are these new pipelines, but if you just think about, you know, the company we signed with that provides the backbone software for, you know, these banks, we already have one, and we've got at least five more that are interested, and we haven't even really launched yet.
I think that a lot of these are very much me too. Once you sign one of the players in this space, the others get very interested in you because they know this will work.
Speaker 0
Got it. Thank you, guys. Congrats on the quarter.
Speaker 5
Thank you.
Speaker 3
The next question is from Jeffrey Van Rhee from Craig-Hallum Capital Group LLC. Please go ahead.
Speaker 1
Great, thanks. I'll add my congrats. A few from me. The large bank credit card issue where you're in branch, online, auto loans, etc., you referenced they moved from your ACB mid-seven-figure range. What was that customer running prior?
Speaker 5
They're slightly lower than that, but they've been expanding drastically. It's funny, we were having a quarterly business review with the risk people, and they basically were saying that their credit card folks are signing on new customers so fast, they don't even know it half the time. They expect to continue to be expanding. I like the predictability of it because they're doing what everybody else was, and saying, "Hey, we're going to commit to this this year." Next year, we've got tiers, and they can up it as they see that they're bringing in more. As opposed to, we kind of knew what they were going to be doing, but they buy a bucket, and they expect it to last maybe a year and maybe lasting nine months, and then we have to redo it.
This is simpler for all of us and allows me to have more predictability or visibility into what I expect out of them in a year.
Speaker 1
On the retail down 20%, how's that feeling so far this quarter?
Speaker 5
I haven't really looked at the numbers so far this quarter. We were down 2% from Q1 into Q2. I'm not, you know, my gut is I'm just looking at the numbers and saying nothing drastic. No other change. I think I'm feeling like we're about where we're going to be at the bottom if there is one. I'm not going to word beer this. We do see rate cuts and things because I think that would help us better.
Speaker 1
You mentioned a channel partner and something around credit unions. I missed that. You mentioned you signed a $20 billion credit union, if I heard that part right. Can you just recap there? It sounded like you're formulating a bit of a new push there.
Speaker 5
Yeah, sure, Jeff. One of the things we've been talking about is, you know, there are a ton of small banks and credit unions out there that our sales guys talk to, and they're like, "I love it, but I don't run my own software." You need to go talk to an Alloy, a Zach Henry, a Galileo, those types of companies that provide sort of the whole bank processing, all the computer systems that they need. Those folks usually have choices for who do you want to use for payments, who do you want to use for credit insurance, who do you want to use for ID verification. We found this one large credit union that was talking to them. They wired us. We went to their provider. The provider said, "Yep, we'll get you going. You've got a queue.
You'll be live in November." We just started talking by chance. We had other credit unions we've been talking to that were also using this one platform. They're looking forward to us going live, and we're going to start the real marketing. My goal and one of the things that I've caught Gmail with is, you know, the guy leading the channel search is these are important to us. It's basically core banking. What's our life? Again, it's simple. One of the things that I loved about this $20 billion credit union that's going with us, they talked through, "Yeah, we used this one of your competitors, that one, that one." None of them were given a satisfactory result. They used our web-based portal product to track us against them, and that's when they said, "We have to have you," because they saw such an increase in fraud stoppage.
Speaker 1
Interesting. Very helpful. Last for me, the large social media player that turned on, obviously, unfortunate that you've got the integration issues here, presuming you'll get on top of that in the U.S. to do some things here. What did you learn from the early volumes? Obviously, you got a glimpse of what they were intending to throw at you. Was it the type of volume, the scale of volume? Were there any learnings in just that early glimpse in terms of what they want to use you for and how?
Speaker 5
There was a scale of volumes that, you know, they had said from day one. We were very pleased to see that. Something obviously changed in their software because, you know, a few weeks prior to them, we really opened up the faucet. We began to see that the sale rate of, you know, this is what they were sending us, was basically illegible because they send us photographs of the front and back of the document, and then we extract all the data out of that. It did go through, became unreadable. Even looking at them with your eyes, what is that kind of thing? We are working with them to figure out what changed on their end. I think the things that we've learned in the conversation since then, as we're working with both business and the development side, is that they know they got a fraud problem.
They know that they have, you know, there's that particular focus on North America. They know that the way to authenticate people, because it's about every single person they're dealing with in that area, has a driver's license. They want to make sure that we get things spelled correctly, and that's what we're talking through. In my mind, all good stuff. Unfortunate that something changed. They were kind of laughing about their technology in doing this. Like I said, I picked on it a bit earlier. Much of what they wrote was when you could take two days to do an authentication. Now they realize that some of the tools that they wrote just aren't up to snuff, and they're working with us to figure out what we can do to help them augment those tools.
Speaker 1
Got it. All right. Helpful. Congrats again.
Speaker 5
Thanks, sir.
Speaker 3
There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor over to Bryan for closing comments.
Speaker 5
Thanks, operator. In closing, I think this quarter demonstrated that we're delivering on a commitment to grow by making changes, aligning our resources to where we get bigger bang for the buck, and continuing to evolve our market presence and getting branding and other things out there. Hopefully, that continues to deliver value for you, our clients, and their clients and the customers they serve. I also just want to remind everybody, I think it's very telling that four of our four largest clients have committed to and signed multi-year renewal agreements. I think that's a real validation of our technology. I'd like to pass it as it adds additional predictability for our business. We are going to continue to expand our market penetration in our existing verticals.
As you have seen, we're doing a pretty good job with that, and we are definitely landing and expanding our presence in new ones. We look forward to sharing more new developments with you guys on our next call in November. With that, I'd like to thank you for joining with us today.
Speaker 3
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