Ispire Technology - Earnings Call - Q2 2025
February 10, 2025
Executive Summary
- Revenue was essentially flat year-over-year at $41.83M (+0.3%), while gross margin expanded 350 bps to 18.5% on mix, but operating expenses rose 48%, widening net loss to ($8.00)M and EPS to ($0.14).
- International execution was a standout: nicotine revenue was ~$31M with strong Europe growth and an Africa launch (BRKFST) now in 500+ locations and targeting >2,000 within six months.
- Strategic milestones: Malaysia import/export licenses (manufacturer license pending; plan to scale to 70 production lines), $10M buyback authorization, and FDA engagement with IKE Tech on a component PMTA targeted for April 2025 submission.
- Near-term watch items: higher opex and U.S. cannabis hardware softness (North America -45% YoY) offset mix-driven margin gains; management signaled Q3 cash flow breakeven timing likely slips due to one-time cost actions, but sees structural annualized opex savings of ~$8M from shifting roles to Malaysia.
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Margin expansion and quality of revenue improved: gross margin rose to 18.5% (from 15.0%) driven by mix and “higher-quality accounts” and international growth.
- International traction: Europe revenue strength and Africa BRKFST launch (>500 stores; path to >2,000 in six months) underpin nicotine revenue momentum (~$31M in Q2).
- Strategic platform progress: “successful pre-PMTA meeting… FDA indicated they would accept our component PMTA submission and consider our priority review,” with an April 2025 submission plan; Malaysia regulatory progress with import/export licenses and manufacturer license pending to scale “over 70 production lines”.
What Went Wrong
- Operating cost pressure: total opex +48% YoY to $15.1M (Malaysia investment, product development, scaling activities) widened operating loss and net loss.
- North America softness: revenue declined ~$9.0M YoY (-45.3%), primarily from lower U.S. cannabis hardware sales as the company tightened customer quality and terms.
- Cash flow timing: management now expects Q3 cash flow breakeven to slip due to one-time costs from relocating roles/functions to Malaysia and Hong Kong, despite positive operating cash flow in Q2.
Transcript
Philip Carlson (Head of Investor Relations)
Hello, everyone, and welcome to Ispire Technology's earnings conference call for the fiscal second quarter of 2025 ended December 31st, 2024. At this time, I would like to inform you that this conference call is being recorded and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the company's prepared remarks, we will be facilitating a question-and-answer session following the prepared remarks from the company. Joining us today are Mr. Michael Wang, the company's co-CEO; Mr. Jim McCormick, the company's CFO. First, Mr. Wang will discuss the company's recent highlights, after which Mr. McCormick will review the company's second quarter financial results. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements other than statements of historical fact in its announcement are forward-looking statements.
Forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions made by the company in terms of its experience and its perception of historical trends, current conditions, and expected future developments, as well as other factors that the company believes are relevant. These forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, and many factors could cause the company's actual results or performance to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Further information regarding this and other risk factors are included in the company's filings with the SEC. The company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements, reflect subsequent or current events or circumstances, or to change its expectation except as may be required by law. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Wang. Mr. Wang, please go ahead.
Michael Wang (Co-CEO)
Thank you, Phil. Thank you to everyone joining us this morning. I'm pleased to report our second quarter 2025 results and provide an update on recent highlights. We have continued to make solid progress advancing our strategy of growing internationally, as well as enhancing our financial stability. For the second quarter of fiscal 2025, we generated revenues of $41.8 million. This represents a slight increase of $100,000, or approximately 0.3% from the $41.7 million in the same period of last year. Gross margin for Q2 increased to 18.5%, up from 15%, while gross profit was $7.7 million, up from $6.3 million in the same quarter of fiscal 2024. This increase in gross margin and gross profit is largely driven by our focus on transitioning toward a better quality of customers and a better quality of revenue, changes in product mix, as well as contribution sales from our expansion overseas.
As we have stated during recent quarters, we have made significant strides in improving our overall customer portfolio mix with higher quality accounts rather than simply quantity of accounts. Combined with a focus on payment terms and account receivables, this has translated into enhanced financial stability and consistent revenue, which contributed to our margin expansion in the second fiscal quarter. We have seen increased momentum across our nicotine business, which accounted for $31 million of our overall revenue in the second fiscal quarter, and is continuing to perform in line with expectations. We are pleased with ongoing progress in sales from this division as we expand and gain traction in new markets internationally. We are particularly excited about our progress in Africa, which has shown a solid contribution to sales. Post-quarter end, we announced the successful launch of our Breakfast nicotine products across South Africa and Nigeria.
This was a significant milestone, marking our first international nicotine license arrangement and product launch. Our Breakfast brand, co-created with Grammy Award winner Burna Boy, has achieved strong early success. In just a short period, we have established a presence in over 500 retail locations across South Africa and Nigeria, including major chains such as Pick n Pay, Four Quarts, and various ORECA outlets. The market response has exceeded our expectations, and we are accelerating our expansion plans to reach more than 2,000 stores in the next six months through partnerships with additional retailers, including Checkers, Spar, and Family Stores. To support this, we have implemented a comprehensive market activation strategy, with brand ambassadors conducting daily events across major metropolitan areas in Cape Town and Johannesburg. This hands-on approach has been instrumental in building strong relationships with both retailers and consumers.
The success we have already seen validates our strategy for entering new markets through strategic brand partnerships. The South African market represents a significant opportunity, with Statista projecting the revenue in the tobacco products market to grow annually by over 5% between now and 2029. Ispire is well placed to leverage this growth. Turning now to an update on our Malaysian operations, which continue to be a key component for our global business strategy of providing innovative vaping and age-gating technology solutions to consumers. I'm pleased to report significant progress in securing the necessary regulatory approvals as we have successfully obtained both nicotine import license and export license from the Malaysian government, two critical milestones that advance our operational capabilities in the region.
We are now in the final stages of obtaining our manufacturer's license, which then will complete our regulatory requirements and allow us to fully activate our comprehensive operational expansion plan. This operational expansion plan, combined with our progress in licensing, positions us to significantly scale our operations once we receive the final manufacturer's license. At that point, we'll have the complete regulatory foundation and physical infrastructure to import nicotine products manufactured in-country with over 70-plus production lines in a new facility and export worldwide from Malaysia. Another benefit of operating out of Malaysia is that it diversifies our production base, lowering the risk of geopolitical impact on our pricing and competitiveness. Looking ahead, we are preparing to launch our age-gated GMASH products in the U.K. market in the first half of calendar 2025.
This expansion into the U.K. represents another significant milestone in our international growth strategy and demonstrates our commitment to responsible market entry with appropriate age verification measures. We believe these international initiatives position us well to capture a large share of the global nicotine product market while maintaining our commitment to responsible distribution and consumer safety. From a balance sheet perspective, we have taken important steps to further stabilize our financial position. In January, we announced that our board of directors has authorized a stock repurchase program of up to $10 million of our outstanding common stock through January 2027 to be funded through existing cash on hand and operational cash flow. This program was instituted due to our board's confidence in Ispire's long-term vision and further demonstrates the company's belief that our equity is undervalued relative to the growth we expect in future quarters.
We believe this program represents another step in our commitment to creating sustainable and long-term shareholder value. I would also like to take a moment to emphasize the transformative potential of our plug-and-play component PMTA strategy through our ICTECH joint venture. We completed a successful pre-PMTA meeting with the FDA's Center for Tobacco Products on November 13, 2024, where they indicated they would accept our component PMTA submission and consider our request for priority review. If approved, our age verification technology would be the first component PMTA in FDA history, allowing for modular use in hundreds of end products. To put this opportunity in context, the legal market for electronic nicotine delivery systems in the U.S. is approximately $11 billion and is limited exclusively to tobacco and menthol flavors.
What most people do not realize is that menthol is the only flavor FDA has approved for lawful sale in end product today, and that all other flavors sold in the market are being done so illicitly. Initial reports are that this is a potential $7 billion opportunity for Ispire. However, our research suggests the true market potential could actually be three to seven times larger. ICTECH is on track to submit the age gating component PMTA in April 2025. Ispire will also be filing its own pod system PMTAs for flavored end products using the ICTECH age gating system. Our plan is to initially introduce four flavored products with the potential to expand to between six and ten offerings. If authorized, this would provide adult consumers with safe, regulated alternatives while preventing youth access, a stark contrast to the current market where consumers risk their health with unregulated products.
As we prepare to submit our application, we believe this technology represents a pioneering approach to expanding adult access to PMTA authorized flavored products while setting new standards for industry safety and compliance. Before turning the call over to our CFO, Jim, I would like to discuss the company-wide cost savings initiatives that we recently instituted. As we continue to increase our worldwide operations, it's imperative for the company to leverage the global resources and facilities that we currently have in the U.S., Malaysia, Hong Kong, and China. As such, we are currently in the process of moving certain functions and daily roles over to our Malaysian operations, which will help further streamline our overall business and significantly reduce our operating expenses. The cost savings we expect to generate from these strategic moves will be over $8 million annually.
By doing so, we can achieve an optimized cost structure for Ispire while moving the company toward becoming break-even and cash flow positive. To sum up, we are pleased with the progress we are seeing across our business lines. Furthermore, we continue to successfully execute on our international expansion strategy while driving future sales growth and enhancing our overall financial stability. With that, I'll turn the call over to our CFO, Jim McCormick, who will review our financial results.
Jim McCormick (CFO)
Thank you, Michael. Before I review our key financial results for the fiscal second quarter 2025, please note that I will refer to the fiscal second quarter 2025 as the three months ended December 31st, 2024. All comparisons are to the prior year ended December 31st, 2023, unless otherwise stated. As Michael previously noted, we reported growth in both gross profit and gross margin in the quarter.
Our total revenue for the fiscal second quarter increased to $41.8 million, representing a slight increase of 0.3% or $0.1 million compared to $41.7 million in the same period last year. Our revenue results were driven by the following performance across our key geographic regions. In Europe, revenues of approximately $24 million in quarter two 2025 represented strong growth of $8.3 million or 53.2% versus the same period last year. Revenue from North America in quarter two 2025 of approximately $10.9 million was a decline of $9 million or 45.3% compared to the second quarter last fiscal year. This was driven by decreases in sales of our cannabis vaping products. This reduction is consistent with the company's effort to focus on higher quality customers in the region. Asia-Pacific revenues were approximately $3.6 million, a decline of $2.4 million or 39.6% compared to the prior comparable period.
Revenues from Africa were $2.7 million, an increase of $2.6 million from the same period last year, as a result of our launch in South Africa, as previously mentioned by Michael. For the second fiscal quarter ended December 31st, 2024, we recorded gross profit of approximately $7.7 million compared to approximately $6.3 million for the same period last year. Gross margins for the second quarter were 18.5%, up from 15% last year. The increase in gross margin and gross profit was primarily due to changes in product mix and more higher margin products being sold in line with our selective customer strategy in North America. For Q2 2025, total operating expenses were approximately $15.1 million compared to approximately $10.2 million for the same period last year.
This increase was primarily due to increased expenses in line with our strategic initiatives, including continued investment in our Malaysian production facility, expansion of our international nicotine business, and increased expenses related to our product development function. Our net loss was $8 million or $0.14 a share versus a net loss of $4 million or $0.07 per share in the prior comparable fiscal period. At December 31st, 2024, our cash position was $34.4 million, with a working capital balance of $6.1 million. For the six months to December 31st, 2024, net cash provided in operating activities was $0.4 million. This represented a significant improvement versus the same period last year, where $20.2 million was used for operating activities. Net cash used in investing activities for the six months to December 31st, 2024, was $1.1 million compared to $1.9 million used in investing activities in the prior comparable period.
No cash was used in financing activities over the six months ended December 31st, 2024, compared to $700,000 being used for financing activities in the prior comparable period. With that, this concludes the review of Ispire's fiscal second quarter 2025 financial results. I will now turn the call back over to Michael.
Michael Wang (Co-CEO)
Thanks, Jim. To close, I'm proud of the progress we achieved over the second fiscal quarter in progressing our strategic priorities with a continued momentum across multiple strategic initiatives. We grew revenue as well as margin, reflecting our successful transition to higher quality customer relationships and expanded global presence. We achieved several significant milestones this quarter, including the successful launch of Breakfast products in Africa with over 500 retail locations, securing key regulatory approvals in Malaysia, and completing a productive pre-PMTA meeting with the FDA for our innovative age gating technology.
Additionally, our newly announced $10 million stock repurchase program demonstrates our confidence in Ispire's future and our commitment to delivering shareholder value. Looking ahead, we are excited about the many transformative opportunities, particularly with ICTECH's age gating component PMTA submission planned for April and our expanding international presence. Our strategic focus on technology innovation, regulatory compliance, and global expansion positions us well to capture significant market opportunities while promoting responsible industry practices. Thank you all again for your time today, and to all our investors for your continued support. We look forward to updating you further in the coming quarters. If you have any questions, please contact us through email at [email protected]. This completes our prepared remarks, and we are now open to questions. Operator, please go ahead.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad.
A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from the line of Nick Anderson with Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Nick Anderson (Director and Research Analyst)
Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. First one for me, just on the cannabis partnerships and the pipeline. You mentioned last quarter the cannabis business has bottomed out. Just looking for color on the pipeline and where you're at in terms of monetizing there. Any discussions around the I-80 technology would be helpful too. Thank you.
Michael Wang (Co-CEO)
Nick, thank you.
As far as our cannabis business, part of the reason that we repivoted about six, now seven months ago, was to gear our business more toward the MSO or large SSO type of customers. On that front, as we all know, they have more predictable future demand and much easier for us to plan around their demand versus just reacting to sporadic orders. On that front, we have been successful in capturing and working with and partnering with three companies already. The very first such customer was Acridge, followed by Raw Garden and Jushi. In the pipeline, in the coming quarters, we are expected to close a couple more relationships there. Even with these three accounts, certainly predictable future demand would yield the pipeline that you are talking about.
We feel these three large accounts alone can provide roughly a third of our revenue in the foreseeable couple of quarters. As we continue to get new partnerships in place with other MSOs and SSOs, we expect these three accounts' percentage or weight to be reduced as we continue to onboard new customers. Nick, I hope I answered your question. Second question is regarding the I-80 filling machine. That's also an integral part of our repivoting last summer. The I-80, given its high capacity, obviously is more geared towards the high-volume MSOs and SSOs. On that front, the machine is continuing to make progress in the eyes of our partners and customers alike.
In addition to us providing such a machine to our key accounts, we are also looking ahead to potentially partner with other machine manufacturers to make such a solution available to their existing install base. On that front, I-80 is, generally speaking, gaining ground and gaining recognition as we originally expected. Nick?
Nick Anderson (Director and Research Analyst)
I appreciate that color. Second one for me, just on Europe, that revenue is nicely up year over year. Can you dimensionalize the performance there? You have the leading open system, and we have seen some regulatory momentum around restricting closed systems or limiting their use in general. Any color on what you are seeing over in Europe would be helpful. Thank you.
Michael Wang (Co-CEO)
Yeah. In Europe, obviously, the most watched market is the U.K. market. In the U.K., as of this June, disposable vape devices would be completely banned.
As a result, the market will have just two main types of products: either a complete open system or, in some cases, the so-called refillable pod systems. For the last year or so, we have been positioning ourselves for this day. We designed a series of refillable pod devices in anticipation for the market and regulation change. Certainly, our open system will continue to benefit from the shift in regulation there. You are correct. Part of our strength in Europe is because of our positioning in the U.K. towards the banning of disposables. We strongly believe this trend will continue across other European countries as well. From that point of view, our product portfolio and offerings will be perfectly in line with what is going on as far as the regulatory landscape goes. Nick?
Nick Anderson (Director and Research Analyst)
Great.That is it for me. I appreciate the color.
I'll pass it on.
Operator (participant)
Thank you.
Once again, as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from line of Bo Pay with U.S. Tiger Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Bo Pei (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Hi. Good morning, Benjamin. Thanks for taking my questions. My first question is on the cash flow. Given the company's operating cash flow is still negative, can you just talk a little bit about the rationale behind the $10 million stock buyback program? I believe last quarter you mentioned the company should break even and have positive operating cash flow in the March quarter. Is that still your expectation now? Thank you.
Michael Wang (Co-CEO)
The first question regarding cash flow and regarding the stock buyback program. First of all, the stock buyback program that we planned for will cover a 24-month period.
That will give us flexibility in when to decide to execute on it. Of course, we'll do so when the stock, obviously, stock price is favorable for repurchase. Along the way, of course, we'll report to investors, shareholders, as we make any transaction on that front. Now, specifically regarding our cash flow, as Jim indicated, last quarter, the December quarter, for the first time, cash flow generated from operating activities turned positive. This is actually a major change and shift in our cash flow position. To answer your other related question, previously, we were hoping for cash flow break-even in the March quarter. We are still gearing in that direction. However, given that we just carried out some cost-saving initiatives worldwide to realign resources, where cost savings mainly came from or will come from is actually from the U.S. operation, including some headcount reduction there.
We expect this quarter will have a little bit one-time expenses related to that initiative in cost reduction, mainly from the U.S. side, as we shift functions to Malaysia and Hong Kong side. I think because of that one-time expense, this quarter, as we will for sure continue to make progress with our cash flow this quarter, I expect the original expectation for becoming cash flow positive this quarter will likely be pushed out a little bit due to that one-time charge. Bo?
Bo Pei (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Thank you, Michael. My second question is about regulation. Is there any, do you see any upcoming or existing impact on our business from the U.S. tariff? Also related to that, do you expect any deregulation in the cannabis or e-cigarette in the U.S. under the new Trump administration?
Michael Wang (Co-CEO)
Your first question, first, regarding President Trump's initiative of imposing more tariff on import. Certainly, on that front, we expect tariff increase for China-made products. That is, I think, widely expected. The only question is by how many percent. On that front, this is exactly why we, since late 2022, started positioning our manufacturing operations more in the direction for Malaysia. Really, it's to get around the number one geopolitical risk. Number two, the uncertainty related to trade tariff against Chinese-made products. I think certainly that part will affect us to some degree, but we will certainly benefit from this relative to our competition as well. Now, the other part of this executive order and general, I would say, protection of U.S. companies and the economy and consumers will come in the form of, I would say, border protection and border control.
On that front, I think we, as a company, as operators in this space, will actually benefit from what's coming. What's coming is between FDA and border protection and border agency. I think in 2025 and beyond, we'll certainly tighten up the inspection, the documentation review process at the border. As we all know, whether it's on the cannabis side or nicotine side, in the last many years, the market has been rather flooded with illegal products or unauthorized products. I think with this new change in policy that is tightening up the control at the border, we'll actually squeeze out bad characters and bad players and make legitimate professional operations enjoy this compliance process more openly. Ultimately, that will benefit consumers both from safety and certainty point of view. As far as cannabis, Bo?
I think at this point, it's really hard for anybody to predict given the fluid situation with the DOJ, HHS, and the FDA, and of course, DEA. Everything is relatively in constant change right now. Until the dust is settled in a few months, it's really hard for anybody to predict whether we'll get cannabis legalized at the federal level during this administration. Bo?
Bo Pei (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Got it. Got it. My last question is on the modular PMTA opportunities. Can you just talk more about this opportunity and when should we start to see revenue contributions from this?
Michael Wang (Co-CEO)
Yes. The component of PMTA, as I stated earlier, is the first such, I would say, unique approach to PMTA approval. This is partially because in our meeting with FDA, it's apparent this technology provides a, you can say, broad-based solution to solving the flavored e-cig issue in the United States.
So far, only tobacco-flavored e-cigs are getting approvals on an ongoing basis. Only a couple of menthol-flavored products got approval in the last 12 months. That is not because that is what consumers want. Consumers, by and large, still want flavored e-cigarette. However, given that there is no method of preventing youth access, FDA had no choice but just banning flavored devices completely. With this solution, once we get FDA's sign-off, by being a component of PMTA, that means we can offer such solution to other manufacturers and brands to use such technology and control youth access for their own products. On that front, there are going to be, obviously, a large number of opportunities for licensing this technology to other manufacturers.
That's what the component PMTA is really geared toward for, to make it a modular solution that can be added to other brands' products so that all such products will have the age-gating function built in. Not only will we use such technology for our own pod systems, as I indicated earlier, that we will apply for, we will, for certain, license such technology to manufacturers or companies interested in such solution. It's hard to put a number together in terms of, say, licensing revenue per se. I think we all know currently the U.S. e-cig market is largely illicit or black market. I think I saw the recent Juul estimate that says illegal market is anywhere between three and seven times of the legal market.
I think that just indicates the illegal market today is anywhere between $30 billion and $60 billion in the U.S. That truly represents the ultimate potential for such technology. Of course, we probably will never be able to completely eliminate the black market on that front. Just capturing a big chunk of that existing illicit market with age-gated devices will mean significant revenue for the manufacturers as well as for us as we license the technology. I do not know if that was clear enough.
Bo Pei (Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Yeah. Sure. That was very helpful. Thank you so much, Michael. That is all my questions.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, there are no other questions at this time. I will turn the floor back to Mr. Wang for any final comments.
Michael Wang (Co-CEO)
Thank you, operator. Thank you, everyone, for your time today. We look forward to talking to you soon. Thank you.
Have a great day.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.