Integer - Q3 2023

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Operator (participant)

Hello, and welcome to the Integer Holdings Corporation Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star one on your telephone keypad. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Andrew Senn, Senior Vice President, Strategy, Business Development, and Investor Relations. Please go ahead,.

Andrew Senn (SVP of Strategy, Business Development, and Investor Relations)

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to Integer's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Joe Dziedzic, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Diron Smith, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, the results and the data we discuss today reflect the consolidated results of Integer for the periods indicated. During our call, we will discuss some non-GAAP financial measures. For reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to the appendix of today's presentation, today's earnings press release, and the trending schedules, which are available on our website at integer.net.

Please note that today's presentation includes forward-looking statements. Please refer to the company's SEC filings for a discussion of the risk factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially. On today's call, Joe will provide his opening comments and will share some exciting news regarding a strategic acquisition. Diron will then review our financial results for the third quarter of 2023 and provide an update on our full year 2023 guidance. Joe will come back to provide his closing remarks, and then we will open the call for your questions. With that, I will turn the call over to Joe.

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Thank you, Andrew, and thank you to everyone for joining the call today. First, I would like to congratulate Diron Smith on being appointed our Chief Financial Officer. Diron joined Integer in 2021 as our Global FP&A Leader. He brings strong manufacturing and operational finance experience to the CFO role with a leadership style that is collaborative and candid. Diron is focused on enabling the business to deliver excellence for our customers, which will lead to great results for investors. I look forward to partnering with Diron as we execute our strategy to earn a premium valuation. Before I provide an update on Integer, I'd like to take a moment to remember our longtime sell-side analyst from KeyBank, Matt Miksic, who passed away unexpectedly on 8 September. Matt was greatly respected within our industry.

He was always energetic, thoughtful, and brought a sense of humor to what we all do every day. He will be missed, and our hearts go out to his family, friends, and colleagues. Transitioning to our earnings call, we delivered another quarter of strong year-over-year results. Sales grew 18% organically from robust customer demand across our targeted growth markets. Our adjusted operating income grew 39% while expanding margins by approximately 240 basis points compared to last year. We were able to deliver more products to our customers than our prior guidance assumed. We expanded margins from volume leverage, as well as efficiencies gained from an improving supply chain. Based on continued strong customer demand, we are raising our full year outlook again.

At the midpoint of our guidance, we expect full year sales to grow 15% and adjusted operating income to grow 25% year-over-year. The strategy that we began implementing in 2018 is producing above-market sales growth, with a pipeline to sustain growth at 200 basis points above the market. We are expanding margins in 2023 and remain confident we can achieve our strategic financial objective of growing operating income at two times the rate of sales growth. We expect to achieve this through the execution of our manufacturing excellence strategies and further stabilization of the supply chain and direct labor environments. It is an exciting time at Integer because demand remains incredibly strong. We have a robust pipeline of new products concentrated in faster-growing end markets, and we are making the investments needed to deliver sustained growth, including tuck-in acquisitions.

Earlier this month, we completed the acquisition of certain assets of InNeuroCo, a company specializing in neurovascular catheters. InNeuroCo brings deep design expertise and manufacturing capabilities in high-growth neurovascular catheters that are primarily used in the treatment of ischemic strokes and intracranial aneurysms. They developed and currently manufacture a portfolio of aspiration catheters and a portfolio of neurovascular radial access catheters for the industry-leading OEMs. We acquired InNeuroCo for $42 million, plus potential earn-outs for achieving specific revenue targets through 2027. The effective purchase price is approximately $5 million lower after considering the net present value of cash tax benefits resulting from the acquisition structure. We expect sales synergy of approximately $20 million by 2027 from InNeuroCo's design and development team, supporting our existing pipeline of neurovascular catheter opportunities. The transaction is immediately accretive to EPS.

Three of the high-growth markets that Integer targets are highlighted in the blue box on this chart: structural heart, electrophysiology, and neurovascular. We have the breadth and depth of capabilities needed to serve our customers in these faster growth markets. And as the demand for neurovascular catheter outsourcing accelerates, Integer is now even better positioned to capitalize on this high-growth market. Neurovascular catheters are technically complex and include neurovascular guide catheters, aspiration catheters, and radial access catheters. The acquisition of InNeuroCo is completely aligned with our strategy to add or strengthen differentiated capabilities that enable us to provide innovative solutions to our customers in high-growth markets. I'll now turn the call over to Diron.

Diron Smith (EVP and CFO)

Thank you, Joe. Good morning, everyone, and thank you again for joining today's discussion. I'll provide more details on our third quarter 2023 financial results and provide an update on our full-year 2023 outlook. It is important to note. Third quarter results are not impacted by our acquisition of InNeuroCo, while the full-year outlook includes this acquisition. We continued our first half momentum through the third quarter, delivering another quarter of strong performance. With sales of $405 million, Integer delivered 18% year-over-year sales growth on both a reported and an organic basis, which excludes the impact of currency fluctuations. Our sales performance reflects the continued strong customer demand across our targeted growth markets and the ongoing improvements in the supply chain environment.

We delivered $81 million of adjusted EBITDA, up $18 million compared to the prior year, or an increase of 28%. Adjusted operating income increased 39% or $18 million versus last year. As we continue to make progress on our year-over-year margin expansion, adjusted operating income as a percent of sales increased by 240 basis points versus the prior year to 15.9%, driven by volume leverage and efficiencies gained from the continued improvement in the supply chain. With adjusted net income at $43 million, we delivered $1.27 of adjusted diluted earnings per share, up $0.32 or 34% from the third quarter of 2022. I will touch on the year-over-year growth in adjusted net income in a few moments.

Diving deeper into our sales by product line, we delivered strong year-over-year growth in our C&V and CRM&N product lines in the third quarter of 2023. Cardio and Vascular delivered 23% sales growth in the third quarter compared to a year ago. This double-digit growth was driven by continued strong demand across all markets, growth in key products such as guidewires, new product ramps in electrophysiology and structural heart, and supply chain improvements. Cardiac Rhythm Management and Neuromodulation's third quarter sales increased 22% over the third quarter of 2022, with double-digit growth in both cardiac rhythm management and in neuromodulation. This was driven by strong demand, including double-digit growth from emerging customers with PMA products and supply chain improvements.

Advanced Surgical, Orthopedics, and Portable Medical saw a 13% decline in the third quarter versus a year ago, driven by execution of the planned multi-year portable medical exit announced in 2022, and low double-digit decline of advanced surgical and orthopedics. Lastly, Electrochem, our non-medical segment, declined 25% from a year ago, returning to a normalized run rate after previously higher sales from the supply chain recovery. Further product line details are included in the appendix of the presentation on our website at integer.net. Third quarter 2023 adjusted net income increased a total of $11 million compared to the third quarter 2022. Strong sales and related operational improvements delivered $16 million of the increase, minimally offset by foreign exchange rate fluctuations, as well as higher interest and taxes.

Year-over-year interest expense increased only $1 million, as the higher market-based interest rates were mostly offset by the benefit from the lower fixed interest rate convertible notes issued in January of this year. Additionally, as we described in the second quarter earnings call, the primary driver of our higher adjusted effective tax rate in third quarter 2023, compared to the prior year, is the expiration of the ten-year Malaysian tax holiday. In the third quarter of 2023, we generated $62 million in cash flow from operations, up $35 million from a year ago and $6 million higher than the prior quarter. This strong performance was driven by higher sales volumes, improving margins, and our continued management of working capital. In the third quarter, we generated $37 million in free cash flow, inclusive of $25 million of capital expenditures.

Third quarter year to date, we have generated $125 million in cash flow from operations and invested $83 million in CapEx, resulting in $42 million of free cash flow. Net total debt in the third quarter reduced by $38 million sequentially, and our net total debt leverage at the end of the third quarter was 3.1 times our trailing four-quarter adjusted EBITDA, well within our strategic target range. Now, let's spend some time discussing our updated outlook for the full year 2023. As Joe mentioned in his opening remarks, with our continued strong performance, we are raising our full year 2023 outlook.

Our updated outlook is inclusive of our recent acquisition of InNeuroCo. Starting with sales, we are increasing our outlook by $45 million to 15% year-over-year growth at midpoint, with a sales range of $1.575 billion-$1.595 billion, an increase of 14%-16% versus last year, up from our previous guidance of 11%-13%. Our outlook for 2023, Adjusted EBITDA, is 18%-21% growth year-over-year, with a range of $302 million to $310 million, up from our previous guidance of 15%-18% growth.

We are increasing our Adjusted Operating Income outlook by $11 million at midpoint and expect 2023 to be between $235 million and $243 million, reflecting a strong year-over-year growth of 22%-27%. At the midpoint of 25%, our Adjusted Operating Income is growing at 1.6 times the rate of sales growth. Adjusted Net Income is now expected to be between $151 million and $157 million, reflecting a year-over-year growth of 16%-22%, up from our previous guidance of 10%-15%. This delivers an expected Adjusted EPS outlook between $4.47 and $4.67, a growth of 15%-20% year-over-year.

Our latest view of the adjusted effective tax rate is projected to be between 17.5% and 18.5%. We continue to see strong performance quarter after quarter, which has given us confidence to raise our outlook for sales and adjusted operating income as a percent of sales again. Since our initial guidance this year, we have raised our sales outlook at midpoint by $100 million, including $5 million for the InNeuroCo acquisition in the fourth quarter. Additionally, we have increased our adjusted operating income as a percent of sales by 50 basis points since our initial guidance in February, and now expect a 113 basis point improvement year-over-year for the full year. We expect cash flow from operations between $185 million and $205 million.

This includes an expected full year impact of approximately $30-$35 million from accounts receivable factoring to support capacity investments in our Irish manufacturing facilities, which we shared during our February earnings call. While 2023 sales are $100 million higher than our initial guidance, we are maintaining our outlook on capital expenditures of $100-$120 million. Additionally, we expect to generate free cash flow between $75-$95 million. Inclusive of our $42 million acquisition of InNeuroCo, we expect our 2023 year-end net total debt to be between $925-$945 million, which is approximately flat to up $20 million from the end of third quarter of 2023.

We expect fourth quarter free cash flow to mostly offset the purchase of InNeuroCo, resulting in an expected net total debt leverage ratio at year-end, well within our target range of 2.5x to 3.5x our trailing four-quarter Adjusted EBITDA. With that, I'll turn the call back to Joe. Thank you.

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Thanks, Diron. Integer is having a strong year, with third quarter year-to-date sales up 18% and adjusted operating income up 29%, including raising guidance the last two quarters. We continue to execute our strategy to deliver sustained above-market growth with expanding margins. We have a strong pipeline of new products and continue to invest in differentiated capabilities, both organically and inorganically, to sustain above-market growth. We closed another accretive tuck-in acquisition in a high-growth market. We remain focused on delivering for our customers and the patients they serve to generate a premium valuation for our shareholders. Thank you for joining our call this morning. I'll now turn the call back to our moderator for the Q&A portion of our call.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. If you have a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, simply press star one again. Your first question comes from the line of Craig Bijou with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Craig Bijou (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question, and Diron, congrats on, you know, making the role permanent. Look forward to working with you. And congrats on a great quarter. So let me start with, you know, the very strong growth that you guys have seen in the quarter and over the last, you know, really several quarters. And I know you talked a little bit about, you know, the drivers of that, but I wanted to see if you maybe expand upon some of your comments. You know, what would you attribute, you know, the growth to? Is it the end markets that are growing faster? You know, do you think you're being utilized more by existing customers? And, you know, and/or is it new customer adds?

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Great. Good morning, Craig. I'll start with thank you. And we do have incredibly strong growth, 15% growth at midpoint, up from 12% that we had guided to on our last call. And, you know, it. I will point to a number of things. There is not one or two things driving it. And I'll address the. I do think we think the industry is probably growing faster than the mid-single digit, which the markets we serve have a long-term growth rate of mid-single digits. We think the industry is growing faster than that. As we get more of our customers' reported results, we'll shape our view of what we think the industry is doing for the markets we're serving.

But I'd point to emerging customers for us, which we characterize as our earlier stage neuromodulation customers. And we've highlighted in-depth the number of customers we have in early stage development programs, and we've mapped them out through the clinical, regulatory, and product introduction phases. We highlighted that last year, 2022, we had about $50 million of sales with nine of those customers that are in product introduction or launch phase. And that by next year, 2024, we would expect that to be $80 million to $100 million, so doubling. And we're seeing the growth that we would expect in 2023, in that mid between 2022 and 2024, growth rate that we said of double. We're seeing that growth.

That's a couple, couple, 3%, 2-3% of our year-over-year growth this year. All the new products that we've been working on from the pipeline of development work that we've been doing, we've highlighted a number of times how our pipeline of development programs has gone up 230+% over the last five years, and that we've shifted that mix to be 80% of those programs in those faster-growing end markets that we're targeting: structural heart, electrophysiology, neurovascular, neuromodulation. We're seeing those new products being introduced and launched into the marketplace. That's driving at least a couple hundred basis points of that year-over-year growth. The acquisitions we've done, Oscor and Aran, they are accretive to the Integer level of growth rate, so that's order of magnitude, call it 100 basis points, roughly.

We're making a big investment in our Irish facility that's focused on guidewires, because demand in guidewires, which is almost all minimally invasive procedures, require at least one, sometimes multiple guidewires. The industry demand is being reflected in the demand on our guidewire business, particularly the facility in Ireland that we're adding 80,000-sq ft expansion to, to take it to 200,000+ sq ft. We're seeing strong guidewire demand. You know, we did have a little bit of volume we talked about at the end of last year, beginning of this year, that shifted out of 2022 and into 2023. That was about $15 million to $20 million.

So you add up all these things and you get to 15%, for the year, which we think is incredibly strong growth. We think we're, we're growing faster than the market, and we think we're growing meaningfully faster than our targeted 200 basis points in 2023. And when we think about long-term growth rate, we still think the markets we're serving are growing in that mid-single digit over the long term. We'll have a better view at the end of this year when we see all of our customers reporting. By the markets that they report in, we'll have a view of what we think the market is. But I'll close with, it's widespread strength across a number of different elements of our strategy that we're executing.

We believe we're outperforming both the industry and our targeted 200 basis points above the market. And your question about new or existing customers, it's existing customers, and then the early stage customers, I won't say they're new. They might be new to introducing something to the market, but we've been working with them for a number of years in particularly the emerging customer neuromod space. So the strength is widespread, and we think it's demonstrated outperformance versus both the industry and versus our targeted 200 basis points faster than the markets.

Craig Bijou (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Great. Thanks, thanks for all the details, Joe. You know, my second question, you know, there is a thought that, you know, a lot of the OEMs built up inventory to higher than traditional levels over the last couple of years, mainly to protect against some supply chain disruptions, and that inventory will eventually be worked down. So I guess my question to you is, I just I guess I wanted to get your reactions to that thought process, and that may just be an investor perspective, but wanted to get your reaction, and then is that a potential risk, you know, as you look out several quarters or into next year, you know, to your growth?

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

So we don't see it as a risk because we believe we have built in exactly that already into our fourth quarter guidance. What when we study the orders we receive from customers in a pretty granular level by plant, by product, by customer, SKU level, and we then work with our customers to interpret and understand what that signal means. The good news is, we're still sitting on about $1.0 billion of orders in hand that ship over the next mostly 12-15 months. So that gives us pretty good visibility. And one thing we're seeing here with our fourth quarter, and we've incorporated this already into our guidance, we're seeing what we would characterize as a normal pre-pandemic level of year-end inventory planning by customers.

Every year, we see in certain products, certain parts of our customers' businesses, what we interpret as they're managing inventory because they've got goals and targets and metrics to hit. And we're seeing what we would characterize as a normal level of that activity, which to us is a good sign because it signals that inventory levels might be at a healthy level for our customers, and they're doing what they used to do before the pandemic. And so we feel like we've already built that into our fourth quarter guidance, and that's been factored in. And so we don't see a risk of a meaningful maybe correction that there might be a concern about with inventory levels potentially being higher than customers would like.

Craig Bijou (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Thanks. Thanks, for taking the question, Joe, and congrats on, on the quarter.

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Thanks, Greg.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Matthew O'Brien with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

Phil Soran (Director)

Hey, this is Phil on for Matt. Congrats on the outstanding quarter, and Diron, congrats. I know we're looking forward to working with you. For starters, on the pricing environment for you guys, I don't know if you disclosed how much price contributed to the growth in the quarter, but if you don't want to provide a specific number, and I apologize for putting you on the spot, can you just talk about your ability to take price, how durable you see this moving forward as we look at 2024 and beyond?

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Phil, thanks for the question. Thanks for joining. And no worries on putting us on the spot. It's our job to tell you our strategy and how we're executing it. From a pricing standpoint, what we've communicated this year is we have positive price. I would characterize it as it's an increase year over year, which is very different than what we've historically had. Typically, we've been a 1%-2% price down business. In 2022, we were right at 1% down, and this year we're actually positive. But the reason we haven't quantified it or emphasized it is we raised prices very specifically to cover the cost increases or some of the cost increases we've experienced in both labor and material.

That's how we explained it to investors... I'm sorry, to customers. That, that's how we quantified it, and ultimately, that was our objective, is to get it enough price to cover up some or all of that material and wage inflation, and that's what we've done. It hasn't been to expand margins, in the spirit of strategic partnership and ensuring we maintain a strong new product development pipeline with customers. That's how we approach pricing. We expect going forward, we're a price neutral-ish business. We believe going forward, based on the agreements we have in place, that we can manage that, on a looking forward basis, which is a meaningful change from where we've been historically. So that's how we think about price, looking forward.

Phil Soran (Director)

Thanks for the color. I guess just one last quick one from me. You know, given the investor interest in this category, how do you think of GLP-1s impacting some of your end markets and business in both the near term and longer term, if at all?

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Great, great question. Well, I'll start with, since the SELECT trial was announced in early August, the med tech space looks like it's down 15%-20%. So I think there, there's certainly been an investor impact and perception. When we study the markets that we believe and that our customers say will be more heavily impacted by GLPs, it points to bariatric surgery and diabetes, which are negligible. In fact, we don't really do anything to support diabetes and/or bariatric surgery.

When we look at the markets we're focusing on to drive growth, you know, structural heart and neurovascular, neuromodulation, electrophysiology, they would appear to be minimally impacted by GLPs, at least based on what our customers say and what the analysis thus far has been done. Our demand remains strong in our targeted growth markets. We're not hearing or seeing customers say that they're either changing orders or demand on us or expect to because of GLPs. You're hearing that on their earnings calls, and I can tell you in our order book and the demand we're seeing, we're not seeing that impact.

And again, we're focused on, you know, procedures that treat structural heart defects, arrhythmias, cerebral aneurysms, pain, and pain management in neuromodulation. We're just not seeing an impact. Maybe it's too early, but our customers are not telling us they're expecting it, and we're not seeing any impact in both the order book or the development pipeline that we're working on. But it's certainly having an impact on the valuations of med tech. That's clear.

Phil Soran (Director)

That's, that's definitely an understatement, but, thanks so much, and I'll hop back in line.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Nathan Treybeck with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Nathan Treybeck (Equity Research VP)

Hi, guys. Congrats on the great quarter, and Diron, congrats. I look forward to working with you. So just starting, you know, we calculate your guidance implies Q4 growth of 7%-8% reported. This includes InNeuroCo. One, is this about right? And then in light of the strong growth in Q1 through Q3, is there conservatism built into the Q4 guide?

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Great. Thanks, Nathan, for the questions. So you're right that it does imply seven, about 8% at midpoint growth on a year-over-year basis. InNeuroCo is $5 million of that, so it's 100 basis points year over year. I would highlight, if you look at the quarter splits for 2022, the fourth quarter of 2022 was about 11% higher than the average of the first three quarters. So if you're just thinking about comps on a year-over-year basis, the fourth quarter last year was the highest. Year to date, we've got 18% growth. For the third quarter year to date, we're estimating 15% at midpoint for the year. We think that's an incredibly strong year.

I wish everything in life were linear, and we could just have the exact same steady growth rate every quarter, year-over-year, but life doesn't work that way. And so you're right in terms of the midpoint interpretation. We feel like we've got a pretty good handle on the fourth quarter, given that we're sitting here at the end of October. You know, we've got a much more stable supply chain environment, still some pockets of disruption that we're working on, so we feel pretty good about our 400-ish midpoint of guidance sales for the fourth quarter. The demand remains very strong from customers.

Again, I highlighted that, you know, we're seeing customers make their what we think are historically normal year-end inventory adjustments, and we've got that baked into our fourth quarter. We still think it's a strong year-over-year fourth quarter at high single digits. It's just not as strong as the first three quarters, but 15% for the year on the top line and 25% on the operating profit, we feel is a pretty strong year of outperformance.

Nathan Treybeck (Equity Research VP)

Okay, thanks for that. And just in terms of, so you noted that the supply chain has continued to improve. I guess, how would you characterize the supply chain and maybe the inflation environment relative to the first half, and maybe your expectations for when it normalizes, if that could happen in 2024? Thanks.

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Yeah, great, great question on supply chain. So, you know, third quarter average supply chain impact versus 2Q was probably marginally better, only because the second quarter was a meaningful improvement. So we entered the second quarter in a tougher environment, exited in a better environment, and the third quarter average was about what was better than second quarter. But there's still pockets of supply chain. We think this is probably the new normal, and we're getting better and better every day at how we manage that, and the mitigation actions that we started a year and a half ago, some of those are starting to move into the execution phase and bring some of those benefits. So we are—we do think we're getting better at managing supply chain.

We think going forward, we'll continue to improve on that, but we're operating as though this is the supply chain environment going forward. From a supply chain standpoint, our focus is on making sure that as our direct labor turnover has improved, that we continue to train our associates and become more proficient in what we do. And we think there's significant opportunity to gain greater efficiencies as we move into 2024, with the current supply chain levels, as well as improving execution in our manufacturing facilities and better trained associates that can drive the efficiencies that we expect to grow our margins.

Nathan Treybeck (Equity Research VP)

Thanks, guys.

Operator (participant)

Nathan, do you have any follow-up questions at this time?

Nathan Treybeck (Equity Research VP)

No, I'm all good. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Okay, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, once again, if you have a question or a follow-up question, it is star one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Joanne Wuensch of Citi. Your line is open.

Felipe Lamar (Equity Research Senior Associate)

Hi, this is Felipe Lama on for Joanne. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on the quarter. Just quickly, as it relates to the use of cash, congrats on the acquisition of InNeuroCo, but I'm just curious, moving forward, how are you thinking about cash allocation as you think about M&A or debt paydown? And then looking forward, are there any segments that you think are particularly attractive for tuck-in M&A opportunities? Thank you.

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Hi, good morning, Felipe. Thanks. Thank you for the question. You know, we remain very committed to our 2.5-3.5 times debt leverage. We ended the third quarter at 3.1 times, with the expected cash flow generation in the fourth quarter, and in the InNeuroCo acquisition, which occurred in the fourth quarter, so that $42 million outflows in the fourth quarter. If you look at the midpoint of our EBITDA guidance and the midpoint of the debt levels guidance that we gave, you'll see at year-end, we still expect to be at midpoint at 3.1 times leverage. And so we feel like we have the capacity to spend $200 million to $250 million a year on tuck-in acquisitions.

We have a robust pipeline of tuck-in acquisitions that we are nurturing at any point in time. We're very excited about the InNeuroCo. We think they bring very differentiated design and development capability in the neurovascular market, which is a market that, we believe, is transitioning to significantly more outsourcing than has been the historical norm in that space. So we think that's a pocket of accelerated outsourcing.

We think adding InNeuroCo team and their tremendous engineering group that has tremendous experience at designing and developing finished devices, and then manufacturing them, we think that contributes to our pipeline of development programs, very symbiotically, and that we're expecting to double the size of that business in the next three to four years based upon that pipeline that we think they can help us accelerate and execute. So we continue to look at tuck-in acquisitions at 3.1 now and 3.1 at year-end. That gives us additional capacity.

Maybe a simple way to think about it is, you know, if we, if we grow EBITDA at the targeted targeted growth rate of profit growing twice as fast as sales, that creates order of magnitude, 140, 150 million dollars worth of debt capacity for acquisitions, generating 100 million dollars of free cash flow, here's another 100. That's where you get the 200 to 250 of capacity every year and still maintaining the 2.5 to 3.5 times debt leverage. So we're excited about InNeuroCo and excited about the opportunities in front of us for additional tuck-ins. Thanks for the question, Felipe.

Felipe Lamar (Equity Research Senior Associate)

That, that's helpful. Just on PFA continues to be a hot topic, so I'd just be curious if you can give us an update on where you are in developing those platforms and when you might expect meaningful revenue contribution. Thank you.

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Absolutely. We think we're incredibly well-positioned in electrophysiology. We're highly vertically integrated today. We have significant experience in scaling complex EP products. We do everything from components to subassemblies to finished device manufacturing today. We think what we do today is incredibly applicable to PFA and the new therapy that's coming out. We're excited about the new therapy. We're working on a number of programs in the space.

We're excited for the therapy to come to market. We think it'll have a tremendous impact on patients, both safety and potentially efficacy as well. We're well-positioned and believe that it has a strong potential to be a tailwind for us. Like anything in life, it all comes down to who gets to market first and who gets the most market share and what share of wallet we have with that particular customer. But we think we're incredibly well-positioned for it to be a tailwind for us.

Felipe Lamar (Equity Research Senior Associate)

Thank you.

Joe Dziedzic (President and CEO)

Okay.

Operator (participant)

Felipe, do you have any further questions at this time? Once again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question, it is star one on your telephone keypad. There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back to Andrew Senn.

Nathan Treybeck (Equity Research VP)

Hey, thanks, Sarah. Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. As always, you can access the replay of this call on our website, as well as the presentation that we just covered. Thank you for your interest in Integer, and that concludes our call today.

Operator (participant)

Thank you for joining. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines.