Jabil - Earnings Call - Q1 2026
December 17, 2025
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Operator (participant)
Greetings. Welcome to Jabil's First Quarter of Fiscal Year 2026 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Adam Berry, SVP, IR and Communications. Thank you. You may begin.
Adam Berry (SVP of IR and Communications)
Good morning and welcome to Jabil's First Quarter Fiscal 2026 conference call. Joining me on today's call are Chief Executive Officer Mike Dastoor and Chief Financial Officer Greg Hebard. Please note that today's presentation is being live-streamed, and during our prepared remarks, we will be referencing slides. To view these slides, please visit the investor relations section of Jabil.com. After today's presentation concludes, a complete recording will be available on our website for playback. In addition, we will be making forward-looking statements during this presentation, including, among other things, those regarding the anticipated outlook for our business, such as our currently expected second quarter and full fiscal year 2026 net revenue and earnings. These statements are based on current expectations, forecasts, and assumptions involving risks and uncertainties that could cause actual outcomes and results to differ materially.
An extensive list of these risks and uncertainties is identified in our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended August 31st, 2025, and other filings with the SEC. Jabil disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. With that, I'd now like to hand the call over to Greg.
Greg Hebard (CFO)
Thanks, Adam, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our call today. This quarter, we exceeded expectations across the board. Revenue, core operating income, core margins, and core earnings per share all came in strong. Our performance underscores the value of our diversified portfolio and our consistent execution. Intelligent Infrastructure led the way with impressive growth, while Regulated Industries and Connected Living and Digital Commerce delivered steady results in line with or above our outlook. Let's now walk through our numbers. Net revenue for Q1 was $8.3 billion, at the high end of our guidance range. The mix in revenue and ongoing cost discipline helped us achieve core operating income of $454 million and a core operating margin of 5.5%. On a GAAP basis, operating income was $283 million, and GAAP diluted earnings per share was $1.35.
Core diluted earnings per share for Q1 was $2.85, coming in at the upper end of our guidance range. Turning now to performance by segment in the quarter, Regulated Industries generated $3.1 billion in revenue, in line with expectations and up 4% year-over-year. Automotive and Renewables came in largely as expected, and healthcare continued to deliver steady, reliable revenue performance. Core operating margin was 5.8%, up 110 basis points year-over-year, reflecting solid and disciplined execution across the segment and ongoing strength in healthcare. Intelligent Infrastructure revenue was $3.9 billion, ahead of expectations. The upside was primarily driven by strength in our Cloud and Data Center Infrastructure, as well as our Networking End Markets. In Cloud and DCI, we saw higher revenue due to strong execution as we ramp our second hyperscale customer in Mexico, along with robust results from our data center power operations in Memphis.
The upside in networking was primarily driven by stronger demand for next-generation liquid-cooled platforms, which we currently support in India. Core operating margin for the segment was 5.2%, up 40 basis points year-over-year, supported by mix and strong execution. Connected Living and Digital Commerce revenue was $1.4 billion, ahead of expectations with broad-based strength in automation, robotics, and retail warehouse programs. Core operating margin for the segment was 5.5%. Next, I'll provide an update on our cash flow and balance sheet metrics. Inventory days for the quarter came in at 70 days. Net of inventory deposits from customers, inventory days were 57 days, consistent with our targeted range of 55 to 60 days. Cash flow from operations in Q1 was $323 million, and net capital expenditures were $51 million, resulting in adjusted free cash flow of $272 million for the quarter.
We remained on track to deliver $1.3 billion in adjusted free cash flow for the full year. We ended the quarter with a healthy balance sheet, including net debt to core EBITDA of 1.2 times and cash balances of $1.6 billion. During Q1, we repurchased $300 million of shares under our existing share repurchase authorization. With that, let's turn to our guidance for Q2 FY26. Beginning with revenue by segment, we anticipate Regulated Industries' revenue of $2.78 billion, up 2% year-on-year, reflecting an appropriately disciplined outlook for Automotive and Renewables with continued growth in healthcare. Intelligent Infrastructure revenue of $3.76 billion, up 42% year-on-year, supported by sustained strong demand across cloud, data center infrastructure, data center power, networking, liquid cooling, and Capital Equipment. This also includes a modest contribution from the previously announced Hanley Energy acquisition, which our guidance assumes will close sometime in January.
Connected Living and Digital Commerce revenue of $1.21 billion, down 10%, reflecting planned program attrition and customer pruning, partially offset by continued growth in warehouse and retail automation. Putting it all together at the enterprise level, total company revenue for Q2 is expected to be in the range of $7.5 billion to $8 billion. Core operating income is expected to be in the range of $375 million to $435 million. GAAP operating income is expected to be in the range of $312 million to $382 million. Core diluted earnings per share is expected to be in the range of $2.27 to $2.67. GAAP diluted earnings per share is expected to be in the range of $1.70 to $2.19. We expect second quarter net interest expense to be approximately $69 million, and full year interest expense to be approximately $270 million.
The increase in interest expense next quarter reflects two key factors. First, additional debt associated with the anticipated acquisition of Hanley Energy Group, which we intend to fund through a combination of cash and new borrowings, and second, the anticipated refinancing of our existing senior notes maturing in April. Our core tax rate for Q2 and the full year is 21%. In closing, Q1 was a strong start to the year, and we carried good momentum into Q2. Our results reflect the strength of our diversified portfolio and the consistency of our execution. As we move through the balance of the year, we remain focused on margin expansion, capital efficiency, and sustained cash generation. With that, I'll turn the call back to Mike, who will offer additional color on fiscal 2026 and our updated guidance.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Thanks, Greg, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to begin by personally recognizing and thanking our global team for their extraordinary effort they continue to deliver. I am extremely pleased with the strong start to fiscal 2026, which could not be accomplished without your focus, discipline, and commitment to our customers. I see that dedication every day across our operations, and I am sincerely grateful for everything the Jabil team continues to deliver. As Greg outlined, the first quarter was better than expected in both revenue and core margin, which ultimately drove core EPS to the high end of our guidance range, and while AI continued to be the primary driver of growth, it was great to see all of our three segments contribute to our better than expected performance.
In summary, our Q1 results, I believe, reinforced the strength of the strategy we laid out in September and the value of our diversified model, and more importantly, we now expect this momentum to continue throughout fiscal 2026 and beyond into fiscal 2027. With that momentum as a backdrop, I'd now like to take a few minutes to walk through each of our segments for FY26. Beginning with Intelligent Infrastructure, we're raising our fiscal 2027 outlook by approximately $900 million, driven by higher revenue in both Cloud and DCI, as well as networking. Cloud and DCI is now expected to be up an incremental $600 million for the year to $9.8 billion. This stronger-than-expected outlook is primarily driven by recent program wins with our second hyperscale customer in Mexico and upside in our data center power business in Memphis.
This also includes approximately $200 million associated with the Hanley Energy acquisition, which we expect to close in January. Hanley strengthens our capabilities in modular power distribution and energy systems for next generation data centers. This will diversify our racks and server business in the verticals that extend beyond compute, including power, energy management, and data center infrastructure services. In our Capital Equipment end market, demand has also remained very healthy and consistent, with our expectations of year-on-year growth of 16%. We now expect our networking and Comms end market to be up approximately $300 million for fiscal 2026 to $2.7 billion. This is supported by stronger demand for next-gen liquid cooled platforms, with meaningful demand increases in India, as customers expand high speed interconnects, including both Ethernet and InfiniBand capacity, to support the rapid growth in AI workloads.
Altogether, we now expect AI-related revenue of approximately $12.1 billion in fiscal 2026, which represents approximately 35% year-over-year growth, up from 25% originally expected in September. The strength we're seeing here clearly validates our strategy. By designing and delivering fully integrated systems that combine compute, networking, power distribution, and advanced cooling, we materially shorten deployment timelines and reduce total costs for customers, precisely what is required as AI capacity scales. On a separate note, and as we discussed in September, we're in the process of retrofitting our East Coast rack and server factories to accommodate for liquid cooling, and these efforts remain slightly ahead of schedule, positioning Jabil very well for the second half of fiscal 2026 and into fiscal 2027.
In Regulated Industries, fiscal 2026 is tracking above our September expectations by roughly $100 million, driven by better than expected results in Renewables, although we remain cautious with our outlook for the year. Automotive continues to perform as expected, and we continue to focus on powertrain-agnostic solutions in next-gen vehicles. Importantly, over the longer term, we remain well-positioned in both Renewables and Automotive markets, as the team has consolidated share with existing customers. In healthcare, our business remains solid and aligned with our expectations for growth, supported by continued strength in drug delivery platforms, including GLP-1 and continuous glucose monitors, as well as ongoing demand across diagnostics and minimally invasive technologies. Our pipeline remains healthy, with good visibility into program ramps across drug delivery, chronic disease management, and other regulated devices categories. Overall, we expect healthcare will be a durable multi-year growth engine for Jabil.
Putting it all together, we now expect our regulated segment to return to growth this year, representing nearly 40% of our revenue in fiscal 2026. Finally, in Connected Living and Digital Commerce, our outlook is also ahead of our expectations at the beginning of the year, as we now anticipate approximately $100 million in incremental revenue for the year, driven primarily by broad-based strength in automation, robotics, and advanced retail warehouse programs. Altogether, we now expect CLDC to be down by roughly 11% year-over-year due to previously announced customer pruning in Connected Living, offset slightly by growth in Digital Commerce. Given the strength of Q1 and the visibility we have across the business, we're raising our full-year guidance for revenue, core margins, and core EPS. For fiscal 2026, we now expect revenue of approximately $32.4 billion, an increase of $1.1 billion from our prior outlook.
Importantly, we're also raising our margin expectations for the year. We now anticipate core operating margins of roughly 5.7%, a meaningful improvement of 10 basis points versus our earlier view. This improvement reflects strong mix, continued execution, and the underlying leverage in our model. As a result of both higher revenue and higher margins, we now expect core delivered earnings per share of $11.55 for the year, an increase of $0.55 from our previous estimate, and we continue to expect adjusted free cash flow of more than $1.3 billion, consistent with the framework we outlined in September, which will allow us to continue to invest in future growth while continuing to return capital to shareholders. Across the company, our priorities remain the same: profitable growth, diversified mix, margin expansion, consistent cash generation, and strong commitment to buybacks, which was evident in Q1.
This focus is driving momentum across the business, allowing us to navigate changing market conditions, deliver consistent results, and steadily build long-term earnings power. To summarize, our first quarter results were better than expected, and fiscal 2026 is now tracking well above our initial expectations. What's notable to me about our higher FY26 outlook is that it's broad-based. All three segments are contributing, Intelligent Infrastructure leading the way. As we move forward, we remain focused on driving long-term value for our shareholders. Before closing, I want to again thank our teams, customers, and suppliers for their commitment and partnership. The consistency in our results is a direct reflection of their efforts, and I am grateful for the trust they continue to place in Jabil. I also want to wish everyone a safe and healthy holiday season and a Happy New Year.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Adam.
Adam Berry (SVP of IR and Communications)
Thanks, Mike. Operator, we're now ready for Q&A.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for your questions. Our first questions come from the line of Ruplu Bhattacharya with Bank of America. Please proceed with your questions.
Ruplu Bhattacharya (Director)
Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Mike, you raised the full-year revenue guide by over $1 billion. There's lots of things that are happening in Intelligent Infrastructure space. The slides mentioned some new wins. Can you give us some more color on those? There are a lot of new projects coming up as well, like OpenAI, AMD, Anthropic, AWS. I mean, do you think Jabil has the intent or the opportunity to benefit from some of those projects? And then there are other things you mentioned, like retrofitting factories for liquid cooling and acquiring Hanley Energy Group. So maybe just lay out for us the impact of all of these factors. And overall, would you say the guidance is for the fiscal year is still conservative?
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Thanks, Ruplu. So I really think our Intelligent Infrastructure is outperforming. One of the reasons I think our AI strategy is working so well is because of the holistic view that we're taking of data centers. We're not just focused on single products or product lines. We're actually invested in design and engineering across the board, which allows us to cross-pollinate, which allows us to cross-sell, which allows us to use our liquid cooling capability with some of the server racks and other parts of our Intelligent Infrastructure business. So Intelligent Infrastructure is performing really well. I think in 2025, our revenue was $9 billion. In September, we'd taken it to $11.2, which was up 25%. We've now taken it up to $12.1, which is 35%, about a $900 million increase in that revenue level. I think out of the 900, think of it in two buckets.
One is the Cloud and DCI bucket, which is up about $600 million. $200 million of that is Hanley, and I'll touch on that in a minute. The balance is made up of upside on some recent wins that we had maybe during Q4 of last year with our second hyperscaler, and that's in Mexico. It's all AI storage racks that we're manufacturing for that second hyperscaler. And then on the DCI business in Memphis, I think there's a whole bunch of upsides there. The switchgear business is going really well. The in-row heat exchangers, again, going really well. So Cloud and DCI are up by $600 million in total. Networking and Comms is up by about $300 million, and that's mainly in our India operations around air and liquid-cooled switches, adapters, network adapters across InfiniBand and the Ethernet portfolio.
$900 million is a big number for us to be taking it up in a relatively short period of time. On Hanley, if I could just touch on that, I think the revenues that we indicated in my prepared remarks is about $200 million for FY26. We expect it to complete in January. I would think of Hanley as being modestly accretive in 2026. 2027 will be when it's more accretive. I think everybody knows it's a power and energy management solutions company that we acquired. It's more a services enabled business as opposed to manufacturing, and it gives us a really good sort of platform, not just for deployments, but for maintenance as well, which would be an ongoing revenue stream.
Overall, really happy with Hanley. Do I think guidance is conservative? I think it's appropriately conservative. We're seeing solid upsides everywhere. As is known, we've been appropriately conservative there, Ruplu.
Ruplu Bhattacharya (Director)
Okay. Thanks for the details there. For my follow-up, if I can ask, looking at operating margins, Jabil is going to be at 5.7% operating margin this fiscal year. So is it reasonable for investors to assume that operating margin can get above 6% in fiscal 2027? What are the puts and takes there? And longer term, how high can operating margin go? With the current mix of business, do you see Jabil getting to 7% operating margin at some point? So just your thoughts on next year, or what should we keep in mind in terms of operating margin progression and how high that can go over time?
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
So Ruplu, we've still got three quarters left in FY26, so we're just going to be focused on that. We'll provide guidance nearer the time for FY27. As you know, we increased our margin from 5.6% to 5.7%, which is about 30 basis points up from the 25 number. And that's for FY26 due to two or three reasons, which is mainly better mix. I think the mix is coming in stronger, a better utilization of capacity. Our capacity utilization has gone up from that 75% range, closer to the 80% range. And then SG&A leverage as well. So I think overall, the incremental revenue that we're seeing, the $1.1 billion that you referenced earlier, that's giving us some nice leverage. In FY27, we will be seeing a full-year impact of Hanley, so there will be some level of accretion on the margin there.
And then we'll see continued leverage from the incremental revenues. The pipeline that I'm seeing, Ruplu, is extremely strong. It's been a long time since I've seen such a healthy pipeline. So I feel better about 6% than I ever have. I think if you're asking beyond six and getting to seven, of course, we're not going to stop getting leverage. We're not going to stop getting efficiencies as soon as we hit 6%. So 6% is just a point in time on a march to a much higher number. Is it 27, 28, 29? I don't know. 6%, though, I feel really good about at this stage for future.
Ruplu Bhattacharya (Director)
Got it. Thanks for the details there. If I can sneak one more in. Looking at healthcare and packaging, for the last three, four years, it's been mostly flat. This year, it's growing low single digits to $5.6 billion. Any thoughts? You had talked about some further J&J type of deals, and you've got this impact from Croatia. So just can you give us some more color on how you think that business can evolve? Is it still a low single-digit business going forward, or do you think it can accelerate? Thank you. Thanks for taking my questions.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
So Croatia, Ruplu, is going really well. I think we've always referenced sometime in 2027, maybe second half of 2027 is when it actually starts delivering some good returns. Again, just remind you, the margin is higher in that GLP-1 space. So Croatia is going really well. As opposed to on the whole deal piece, I do think the team is actively working all of that. They're currently engaged in B2B conversations. They're engaged in M&A sort of capability driven type of sort of deals as well. So it's an active sort of process that we're going through right now. And we'll provide updates again throughout FY26 in terms of what we're seeing out there from our deal. And again, just to remind you, the deals that we're looking at mainly would be to sort of add capabilities so that we can go vertical in the healthcare space.
A bit like our GLP-1 OSD transaction that we did last year where we added a capability on pharma sort of filling of the GLP-1 itself, oral doses, etc. So there'll be more of those, more capability-driven across the board where we operate.
Ruplu Bhattacharya (Director)
Okay. Thank you for all the details.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Samik Chatterjee with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your questions.
Hi. This is MP on for Samik Chatterjee. Thank you for taking my question. First, congratulations on great results. My question is on second hyperscaler. I think you highlighted second hyperscaler driving upside to Intelligent Infrastructure outlook for the year. How much of it is your better execution relative to your customer demand versus customers' customer actually preponing their deployment plans? In the past, you have highlighted $750 million of revenue scale for this business for FY26. How should we think about that scale now? Any color on the broader potential hyperscaler customers, how exactly those discussions are going? I have a follow-up.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Yeah. So the upside on the second hyperscaler that I mentioned earlier on is on the AI storage piece. We continue to get some upsides on that business. I'm not sure if that's pre-deployment or it's just the demand has always been there. It's a matter of fulfilling it. We feel really good about upside even from there on some of these hyperscalers that we're in discussion with. So I think if you're looking at the revenue piece for the second hyperscaler, roughly in that billion-dollar range, I think earlier we'd said $750. So we've taken that up by some amount as well. So really good interest levels coming through. And we're not just stopping with the second hyperscaler. We're in discussions with even more hyperscalers. So pipeline, again, looking very strong.
Yep. Thank you for the color there. And then my next question is around gross margins for this quarter. I think despite the revenues being higher quarter-over-quarter from F4Q, gross margins were low. Can you please help us understand the drivers for that? Thank you.
Greg Hebard (CFO)
Yeah. So Q1, our gross margins were at 8.9%. Year-over-year, it is up 10 basis points. So typically, we do have a little bit of a lower gross margins on the year. So really nothing there other than just mixing Q1 for the gross margin piece.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Something we've always sort of mentioned, 9% to 9.5% is the range for our gross margin. That's still the FY26 estimate.
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Steven Fox with Fox Advisors. Please proceed with your questions.
Steven Fox (Founder and CEO)
Hi. Good morning. I had two questions, if I could. I guess, first of all, just switching gears. On the healthcare business, like you mentioned, Mike, it's been very steady. My understanding is providing pretty good margins for you guys as well. I guess, off of all the growth you're seeing in Cloud, what's the prospects for maybe investing more aggressively to accelerate that growth since it's such a good contributor to profitability? And then I had a follow-up.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
So Steve, we're constantly evaluating M&A activity in that space. We're constantly in discussions on B2Bs. So I think it's highly likely that we'll do something. We're obviously a conservative company from an M&A perspective. So we'll do all the right groundwork for that. But I feel like healthcare is such a steady business with higher margins, long, long product life cycles, and steady cash flows that it's a great sort of offset from a diversification standpoint for us. And that is an area that I'm most excited about from a deal perspective.
Steven Fox (Founder and CEO)
Great. That's helpful. And then just on the Cloud business, so a quarter ago, you were warning us about that you still face some bottlenecks later in the year. Now you're ahead of schedule a little bit, which is great. And you're talking about what sounds like a bigger pipeline. So I'm just wondering how we sort of equate your ability to meet demand or meet the growth expectations of adding a new customer or existing customers with all the capacity you have or may need. How are you planning out beyond this year for capacity in order to continue to grow that Cloud business? Thanks.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
When we talked about the retrofitting piece on the September call, it was mainly associated with our hyperscaler factory on the East Coast of the U.S. A lot of the upside, when we talked about upside that $900 million, some of it is in Mexico where we had some surplus capacity. Some of it is in India where it's a combination of existing capacity and new capacity. As you know, North Carolina is coming up relatively soon in the next six, seven, eight months, and that we're pre-fitting, if you want to use that phrase, for liquid cooling. So we've got some decent upsides. We're planning on capacity in that way. Memphis is another area I talked about. That's seeing some really good growth as well. So we might expand there as well.
So there's current expansion plans that we're looking at, and those might be even sooner than the North Carolina facility. Again, it doesn't change our CapEx outlook. The CapEx outlook has been 1.5% to 2% revenue, and that's going to remain consistent for FY26.
Steven Fox (Founder and CEO)
Great. Thanks for that. And thanks for all the visibility into your numbers. This is really helpful.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Thanks, Steve.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Ruben Roy with Stifel. Please proceed with your questions.
Ruben Roy (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Yes. Thank you. Mike, I wonder if you could spend a minute on just kind of longer-term thinking around Hanley. And I'm wondering, there's been a lot of discussion, obviously, around power and power distribution as the industry is trying to figure out how to get to 800-volt direct current. And if you think about this acquisition longer term, one of your competitors has been talking a lot about modularized power. Does this help you, do you think, in terms of content per rack and maybe gaining more server rack business by having this, or is the strategy maybe a little bit different as you think about adding that into the mix?
And also, one follow-up on that is, would they own the design of the power distribution? I imagine that's the answer would be yes, given the EBITDA margins that you get. But any color on that would be helpful. Thank you.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
I'd like to call out a couple of transactions as it relates to that whole thermal management piece. Obviously, Hanley is a service provider. I'll talk about that in a minute. But the liquid cooling acquisition we made with Mikros in 2024 has also been a big game changer. I think thermal management, thermal dissipation is not new to hyperscalers. Whether it's cooling at the chip level or switch level or component level or even at an infrastructure level with liquid-to-liquid heat exchangers, that's one of the reasons we invested in Mikros is we acquired a technology. We didn't acquire a product. We acquired a design and engineering team, which is constantly pushing the boundaries for forward-looking liquid cooling activity. To me, that whole Mikros acquisition is a game changer.
I think particularly as the thermal management piece becomes more critical, the ability to design, the ability to engineer liquid cooling at chip level, at the network switch level, at different sort of parts and integrated into a full system, that's the big differentiator where Jabil steps in. As it relates to Hanley, it's more of a services organization. It's the provider of power and energy management solutions. I think the engineering expertise that we have in there is across power distribution, switchgear, energy monitoring, digital power management platforms. It allows us to go vertical as well. And I'll give you an example. Today, we build low voltage, medium voltage switchgear in Memphis. Hanley will allow us to deploy, install, and then maintain those in data centers, which previously was done by other parties.
So if you sort of combine the whole server rack business with the ability to deploy, install, and maintain, that is a highly accretive type of business for us. Hanley, I think, is a really good transaction. We sort of welcome the team. It hasn't closed yet. We expect it to close in that first week of January. As soon as that takes place, just like the Mikros transaction has created so much opportunity for us, so does Hanley. Again, it's exactly the area that you talked about, and it's all around thermal management. It's not a surprise to any hyperscaler. It's not a surprise to anyone who has a data center that that's something that they need to address, and they are addressing that. I do think the two transactions will be highly well received.
Ruben Roy (Managing Director of Equity Research)
That's a lot of detail. Thank you very much, Mike. I hope this is a quicker follow-up just on the Capital Equipment. I think you said that that was in line with your expectations, maybe a little bit better. Is there any change, I guess, on your sort of thinking around overall spend in the Capital Equipment market relative to 90 days ago as you think about this year?
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
So the automated testing equipment side of the business, the back end, I think has been outperforming. It outperformed last year. It's outperforming this year. And it'll continue to be out. It will outperform the WFE side for sure. I think there's multiple RAM stacking for high bandwidth memory that's creating more demand. One good thing we are seeing, and it's forward-looking, so we haven't built that into our forecast, but there is some level of WFE improvements coming along as well with the whole AI compute expansion and the NAND factory sort of upgrades. So WFE, think of that more as an opportunity. In the past, we were like, "Hey, WFE is going to be steady and static."
We are seeing some signs of improvements there. And until that happens, those sort of expectations normally move to the right or to the left. So we haven't included that in our guide, but the WFE side could actually be some level of upside for us.
Ruben Roy (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Great. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Melissa Fairbanks with Raymond James. Please proceed with your questions.
Melissa Fairbanks (Equity Research Analyst)
Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking my questions. I wanted to start off by asking about Automotive and Transport. I see that you maintained the outlook for the full year down a little bit from last year. Just wondering if the mix of that business or any kind of the geographical trends have changed. We have heard from some suppliers. European suppliers are being a little bit more cautious going into next year. Just wondering what the complexion of that business looks like in the near term.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
So let me just start by saying Automotive is an area that we continue to be appropriately conservative on. I think we're seeing relatively good performance. I think has it hit a bottom? I do feel like it has. And there will be upside going forward on Automotive. Is it a 2026 event or a 2027, 2028 event? We just don't know the exact timing. So we're being appropriately conservative from an Automotive standpoint. One of the things the team has done really well is invest in powertrain-agnostic technologies. And what do we mean by that? It's software defined vehicles. It's ADAS. Those sort of programs go into any platform, whether it's hybrid or EVs or combustion engines. We're talking to all sorts of companies.
Then if you factor in the whole Tier 1 sort of the OEMs still want to own the design and the IP as they wanted to with the EV platforms, that's a good opportunity for us EMS companies as well. I think those program wins we do expect. We're in discussion again for 2027 to 2028. We're doing really well because there's a shift in the way that whole Automotive Space is working out, not just for EVs. It's now being extended to hybrids and ICE as well, or at least the concept is. We continue to add some capabilities. I do think 2026, the best way to define 2026 is a conservative year. In 2027, we could see some upside. Don't forget, a program in Automotive takes 12 to 18 months to win. Programs we're winning today will only show up in 2027, 2028.
Melissa Fairbanks (Equity Research Analyst)
Okay. Great. Tell Steve keep up the good work. Maybe just a quick follow-up. Everyone has to ask about at least one question on data center. As you're ramping your second hyperscale customer, I know your lead hyperscale customer, a lot of that business goes through consignment. Just wondering how much, if any, of some of these new programs that you're ramping are on consignment, and maybe gross revenue is actually coming in a little bit better than even what we're seeing on the net revenue side?
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
I think it's a little bit of a mix. I think the consignment model is more the largest customer perspective. Some of the other customers, we're still going through gross versus consignment discussions. But at this stage, we're just factoring in gross levels. I do think that's more likely than consignment models popping up everywhere. I think that was more that was specifically for that first hyperscaler. Will it apply across every single hyperscaler? I'm not sure. I think it's a wait and see approach.
Melissa Fairbanks (Equity Research Analyst)
Okay. Great. Thanks so much, guys. Congratulations.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your questions.
Mark Delaney (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Yes. Good morning. Thanks very much for taking the questions. Jabil took up its view for AI growth this year to 35%. Realize you already spoke on your own capacity planning, but can you speak to any constraints your data center customers may face from the supply side, including having enough power supply to their data center sites? And to what extent you factored any constraints they may be seeing into your guidance?
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Look, power sort of constraint with data centers is not a new thing. I think it's always been around. And we've grown, I think I can't remember the exact numbers, from 2024 to 2025, we grew exponentially. 2025 to 2026, again, we're growing at 35%. And this is all while data center power issues continue to proliferate. I think overall, like I said, the offering that we have, the solutions that we have, the design engineering, and including some level of liquid cooling across our offerings, be it on the chip, be it on the rack servers, be it on the networking switches, be it in the data center infrastructure itself, we're actually engaged with customers to address a lot of those heat questions.
So I'm not seeing any major impact of slowdown. Like I said earlier, it's actually, I've never seen such a healthy pipeline before. It is strong, and it continues to be strong. I know people talk about AI bubbles. We're not seeing any of that at all.
Mark Delaney (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Very helpful. Mike, last quarter, you mentioned the possibility of winning a third hyperscale customer, and you spoke to that possibility again on the call today. Can you give more color on that, including what types of product or products you're hoping to sell to that CSP, and when you think you may know if you've converted on that opportunity?
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
We continue to have discussions. It's a little premature to talk about the products and the revenue. I think that was more of the last call was more of, "Hey, this is our overall strategy. We're not just targeting one hyperscaler or two hyperscalers. There's definitely a third hyperscaler and a fourth hyperscaler if so needed." Our offering, it's that design and engineering architecture capability that's driving a whole bunch of hyperscalers to us. And in a weird way, the discussion could start about a server in a rack, and suddenly, before you know it, it's moved into liquid cooling. It's suddenly moved into silicon photonics. It's moved into other parts of our data center infrastructure piece with heat exchangers and some of the liquid cooling solutions that we're providing.
So it's the offering that we have today that's driving hyperscalers to have these discussions with us. And like I said, it's not built into any of the numbers. We're not talking about a third hyperscaler yet in any of the numbers, but I think going forward, we're still in current discussions.
Mark Delaney (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Thank you.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Thanks.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Tim Long with Barclays. Please proceed with your questions.
Tim Long (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Thank you. Two, if I could as well. First, I was hoping you could touch a little bit on that. It's a larger hyperscale customer. It wasn't really cited as a part of the strength here. So curious what kind of trends are going on there. I do think there's some product transitions in some of their compute platforms. So curious if that's impacting or if there's anything else going on there. And then secondly, just more broadly, a lot of movement around custom ASICs and XPUs. Curious how you see Jabil participating. Obviously, TPU gaining a lot of traction in announcements, at least over the last few months. How do you see Jabil playing in this whole XPU directly and related type of equipment? Thank you.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
So when we talked about the whole retrofitting piece on the September call, we were specific on one site only. Like I said, the rest of the new business is coming in all different sites. The retrofitting is ahead of schedule. I do feel our second half will be stronger in terms of getting it ready. I think originally we'd anticipated the retrofit out to be a combination of Q2 and Q3. That might come in earlier in Q3, which would give us some level of upside. The demand is there. It's crazy what we're seeing in terms of demand. So I have no concerns about the demand side. What was the second question?
Tim Long (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Just on XPUs and custom ASICs and the play directly into that product and peripheral, what it means for the rest of the rack and Jabil's participation.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Yeah. So I think we're relatively agnostic in terms of chips, in terms of what we're doing and who we're doing it with. The custom chips, we're working with multiple individual companies on those chips. I don't think one replaces another. It's all complementary in my view. So I see it more as an upside than a replacement.
Tim Long (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay. Thank you.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
Thanks, sir.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of David Vogt with UBS. Please proceed with your questions.
David Vogt (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Great. Thanks, guys, for taking my questions. So Mike, maybe one for you and one for Greg. So you talked about strength in data center infrastructure, power, networking. We're folding Hanley into the numbers. We're seeing strength in the second hyperscaler above expectations. I guess what I'm trying to think through is how do you think about the second half of your fiscal year, particularly given what the growth implies is a fairly meaningful deceleration where the underlying demand probably doesn't support that view? Is that just a rev rec issue? Is it a capacity issue? How should investors think about sort of the second half of the year, which kind of implies like a 10% growth dynamic? Is there enough capacity?
And then maybe, Greg, I'll give you my question as well. Obviously, you took up the full year numbers for revenue, margin, and EPS and left kind of the free cash flow outlook unchanged. I recognize that CapEx is probably going to go up, I don't know, $50 million to $100 million year-over-year. Anything else from a working capital perspective or timing perspective that impacts free cash flow this year versus your original expectations? Thanks.
Mike Dastoor (CEO)
So on the second half piece, I think with the $900 million that we've sort of added, a large part of that comes through in Q3 and Q4. Q2, I think we've taken that up by $300 million or $400 million from our previous sort of indications. The retrofitting obviously had a little bit of impact on the Q2. We're continuing to win share. I think if you look at last year, the comps from last year are a little difficult to sort of match up with. We went from zero to 60 literally in a matter of a few seconds there where Q3, Q4 saw solid performance from the previous Q1, Q2 where we didn't have some of the additional facilities that we took over from a competitor.
So I would caution against doing comps for Q3 and Q4 because that was a huge growth number in Q3 and Q4, which was going from nothing to multiple buildings in that facility. Look, I think there's no rev rec. There's no other issues going on here. We're being conservative. And I do think second half now reflects a much better picture than it did 90 days ago. And I think it'll continue to evolve through the year. We have a tendency of being conservative, appropriately conservative. So second half, I think there's some good upside for us as well.
Greg Hebard (CFO)
Great. Hi, David. Hey, David. It's Greg. So on your free cash flow question, yeah, still sticking to our guidance of $1.3 billion plus for the year. Again, a real strong Q1 with $272 million. You're absolutely correct. We do see CapEx slightly ticking up, but still staying in our range. And we also do see working capital with the growth we're seeing in the back half of the year slightly going up as well. So what I would say is our guide is we feel is prudent at this time, and we'll continue to update as we go through the year.
David Vogt (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Great. Thanks, guys.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. This now concludes the question and answer session. And we now would like to turn the floor back over to Adam Berry for closing comments.
Adam Berry (SVP of IR and Communications)
Thank you. Thank you for your interest in Jabil. This now concludes our call.
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