Kingsoft Cloud - Q1 2023

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Operator (participant)

Thank you for standing by, welcome to Kingsoft Cloud First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there's going to be a question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, please press star one one from your telephone. I would now like to hand the conference over to the IR Manager, Nicole Shan. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Nicole Shan (IR Manager)

Thank you operator. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Kingsoft Cloud's first quarter 2023 earnings release was distributed earlier today and is available on our IR website at ir.ksyun.com, as well as on global newswire services. On the call today, from Kingsoft Cloud, we have our Vice Chairman and CEO, Mr. ZOU Tao, and our CFO, Mr. He Haijian. Mr. ZOU will review our business strategies, operations, and company highlights, followed by Mr. He, who will discuss the financials and the guidance. They will be available to answer your questions during the Q&A session that follows. There will be consecutive interpretation. All interpretations are for your convenience and reference purpose only. In case of any discrepancy, management statement in the original language will prevail.

Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended and as defined in the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based upon management's current expectations and current market and operating conditions and relate to events that involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the company's control, which may cause the company's actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Further information regarding these and other risks, uncertainties or factors are included in the company's filings with the U.S. SEC.

The company does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except as required under applicable law. Finally, please note that unless otherwise stated, all financial figures mentioned during this conference call are denominated in RMB. It's now my pleasure to introduce our Vice Chairman and CEO, Mr. ZOU. Please go ahead. Thank you.

Tao ZOU (Vice Chairman and CEO)

首 先 ， 小 米 金 山 生 态 是 我 们 公 有 云 业 务 的 初 心 和 基 本 盘 。 我 们 致 力 于 以 一 流 的 产 品 技 术 服 务 好 小 米 金 山 生 态 ， 获 得 与 我 们 贡 献 价 值 匹 配 的 可 持 续 成 长 的 收 入 、 利 润 和 口 碑 。 本 季 度 来 自 小 米 金 山 生 态 的 收 入 水 平 同 比 增 长 ， 占 比 提 高 ， 且 利 润 率 健 康 。

我 们 还 主 动 开 展 了 客 户 务 实 的 口 碑 调 研 ， 根 据 调 研 结 果 认 真 分 析 整 改 ， 以 不 断 提 高 服 务 口 碑 。 第 二 ， 客 户 结 构 的 调 整 是 差 异 化 打 法 和 提 升 盈 利 能 力 的 必 然 选 择 。 我 们 致 力 于 围 绕 核 心 能 力 持 续 开 拓 肩 腰 部 客 户 ， 并 战 略 性 清 退 大 客 户 的 亏 损 项 目

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本 季 度 我 们 大 力 处 置 冗 余 资 源 ， 降 低 刚 性 保 底 带 宽 ， 搬 迁 整 合 机 房 ， 从 而 提 升 资 源 的 利 用 率 。 我 们 还 利 用 渠 道 优 势 ， 结 合 直 采 和 租 赁 等 不 同 形 式 构 建 战 略 资 源 池 ， 精 细 化 匹 配 不 同 客 户 的 需 求 弹 性 特 点 ， 增 强 了 盈 利 韧 性 。 以 上 三 方 面 的 措 施 有 力 保 障 了 本 季 度 公 有 云 财 务 表 现 的 达 成 。

Speaker 6

Next, I will provide some updates on our progress across four key areas: public cloud, enterprise cloud, product and technology, and latest business updates. I'll start with public cloud services. Revenue was RMB 1.15 billion with a gross margin of 2.1%, significantly higher than the -3.4% gross margin in the same period of 2022. Upholding the overall strategy, we emphasize the three main goals for public cloud services, namely supporting the Xiaomi and Kingsoft ecosystems, optimizing our customer structure, and improving our cost and efficiency profile. On the first point, we are committed to our original vision and fundamental of firmly supporting the Xiaomi and Kingsoft ecosystems with first-class products and technologies that help drive sustainable revenue, profit and reputation.

In this quarter, revenue from the Xiaomi and Kingsoft ecosystems increased year-over-year, represented an increasing portion of our total revenues, and with a healthy margin. To ensure that we maintain our respected reputation, we proactively reached out to customers to better understand how we can improve services experiences and adjust our services accordingly. Second, optimizing our customer structure is a critical component of our strategy to build differentiated business approach and boost profitability. We have focused on expanding our customer base among medium-sized businesses, strategically withdrawing from loss-making projects for larger customers. During the quarter, we negotiated or signed deals with dozens of medium-sized customers, including growth sector companies such as EV Vehicle-to-Everything, also known as V2X technology service provider. For example, NavInfo, Black Sesame. Third, we implemented strong cost reduction and efficiency improvement initiatives and enhanced supply chain management.

During the quarter, we increased our resource utilization rate by eliminating redundancies, reducing rigid minimum bandwidth commitments, and relocating and consolidating IDC racks. We also leveraged our diverse channels to build a computing power resource pool that relies on a combination of directly owned and leased assets, enabling us to nimbly match the demand elasticity of different clients while protecting our profitability. These initiatives provided a strong foundation for improving the financial performance of our public cloud business for this quarter.

Tao ZOU (Vice Chairman and CEO)

行 业 云 方 面 ， 本 季 度 实 现 收 入 七 点 一 亿 元 ， 毛 利 率 为 百 分 之 二 十 四 ， 较 去 年 同 期 的 百 分 之 十 六 大 幅 提 升 。 我 们 继 续 从 客 户 质 量 、 业 务 可 持 续 性 、 核 心 能 力 沉 淀 复 用 和 利 润 率 这 四 个 维 度 严 格 把 关 。 在 公 共 服 务 领 域 ， 我 们 继 续 拓 展 政 务 云 和 国 资 云 业 务 。 本 季 度 我 们 第 九 年 续 签 北 京 政 务 云 ， 并 在 山 东 、 上 海 等 地 开 拓 国 资 云 政 务 云 项 目 。

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本 季 度 我 们 在 数 据 技 服 务 的 产 品 矩 阵 、 数 据 中 台 、 切 入 院 端 场 景 和 国 产 化 适 配 方 面 取 得 重 大 进 展 ， 并 启 动 由 金 山 云 牵 头 的 国 家 重 点 研 发 项 目 ， 项 目 生 物 与 信 息 融 合 的 重 点 专 项 。 未 来 将 以 更 强 大 的 数 字 健 康 领 域 技 术 产 品 力 ， 驱 动 五 大 模 式 深 入 推 进 。

在 金 融 领 域 ， 我 们 完 成 兴 业 银 行 ， 中 - 中 心 - 中 信 银 行 等 大 型 股 份 制 银 行 的 大 数 据 平 台 建 设 项 目 ， 深 入 拓 展 既 有 客 户 的 增 量 需 求 ， 专 注 金 山 云 拥 有 的 独 特 优 势 的 大 数 据 领 域 。

Speaker 6

Moving on to enterprise cloud services. Revenue was RMB 710 million with a gross margin of 24%, a significant improvement from 16% in the same period last year. We continued to implement strict project management measures in terms of customer quality, business sustainability, accumulation and reuse of core capabilities and profit margins. Our public services cloud businesses expanded further.

During the quarter, we renewed the contract for the Beijing Public Service Cloud for the ninth year, and expanded our footprints to Shandong, Shanghai and other regions. After years of development, we have gradually built a mature business model of public services cloud that generates healthy and sustainable margins and a wealth of opportunities for value added data projects. In digital health, we are strengthening the five business models we deployed, namely the regional healthcare cloud model, the medical image cloud model, the integrated healthcare organization model, the regional integrated model, and the smart hospital model. These models allow us to tap into market opportunities with differentiated approach, accumulate and reuse our capabilities.

During the quarter, we made milestone progress in our DaaS, also known as Data as a Service product portfolio, penetrating the hospital markets through our data management platform, adapting to Made in China systems and leading a major national R&D project on biology and information integration. Looking ahead, we expect to leverage such technical and product strengths in our business endeavors in the healthcare space. In the finance sector, we completed and delivered big data platforms for major financial institutions such as Industrial Bank and China CITIC Bank, helped existing clients solve new challenges, and focused on technical areas where we have unique advantages such as big data.

Tao ZOU (Vice Chairman and CEO)

产 品 技 术 方 面 ， 我 们 继 续 秉 持 技 术 立 业 ， 持 续 快 速 迭 代 产 品 ， 打 造 核 心 产 品 的 一 流 客 户 体 验 。 云 计 算 领 域 ， 容 器 实 例 正 式 支 持 客 户 的 IDC 自 建 容 器 集 群 弹 性 扩 展 ， 云 上 云 下 资 源 统 一 管 理 。 在 实 现 突 发 高 峰 业 务 平 滑 上 云 的 同 时 ， 云 上 云 下 互 联 网 带 宽 降 低 约 百 分 之 八 十 。

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在 易 用 性 、 安 全 性 、 智 能 化 层 面 显 著 提 升 企 业 客 户 用 云 体 验 。

Speaker 6

In terms of product innovation, we live up to our model of building success based on technology and innovation by constantly and rapidly iterating on our products and providing a best-in-class customer experience across our core offerings. In cloud computing, our Container Instances officially started to support the elastic scaling of container clusters hosting in customers' own data centers, enabling unified management of on and off cloud resources, ensuring a smooth scaling into the cloud during spikes in usage. This solution can reduce on and off cloud bandwidth costs by around 80%. For such achievements in cost performance and efficiency, it is honored as one of InfoQ's top 10 cloud native innovation solutions.

In cloud storage, our Object Storage product is gaining more and more recognition from the market, jumping to fourth place in the fourth quarter of 2022 China Software-Defined Storage Report published by IDC, with its market share doubling compared with 2021. We also launched an all-flash array Object Storage product, which doubles read and write performance, particularly well-suited to application scenarios such as AIGC and the separation of computation and storage in big data, providing tiered storage solutions with top-of-the-line performance at a high cost efficiency. In the enterprise cloud space, we upgraded Galaxy Stack to solve cloud usage and management pain point for enterprise customers. The result is a more unified, convenient, and enriched resource management view across multiple availability zones that provides a better customer experience in terms of usability, safety, and intelligence.

In particular, I would like to address the recent developments in China's AI sector, which has continued to be heated since the debut of GPT-3.5 in the first quarter. We have kept a close eye on this space, and have proactively deployed resources to comprehensively respond to market trends. First, as the only cloud platform in the Xiaomi and Kingsoft ecosystems, we approach AI strategically with Xiaomi and Kingsoft Cloud ecosystems companies in a strategic and coordinated manner, providing support for key programs including Kingsoft Office's WPS AI. Second, we stand strictly neutral in large language model space. This position enables us to retain the full trust and preference of the many independent AI companies that use our platform. Third, with a combination of directly owned and leased assets, we're able to offer sufficient GPU server resources to meet our customers' needs.

In summary, our results over the past few quarters demonstrate that our strategy is yielding results. As we prepare to meet future opportunities and challenges head on, we will nimbly execute on this strategy to create value for our customers, shareholders, employees, and society. I will now pass the call over to our CFO Henry to go over our financials for the first quarter of 2023. Thank you.

He Haijian (CFO)

Thank you, Dodo. Welcome everyone for joining the call. Now I will walk you through the financial results for the first quarter of 2023. Guided by the high quality and the sustainable development strategy, we are pleased to see that our profitability further improved steadily in the first quarter. Our adjusted gross profits continued to grow for the fourth consecutive quarter, and achieved record high of RMB 194.4 million, increased by 133% year-over-year, representing adjusted gross margin of 10.4%. Along with our strict expenses control, our normalized adjusted EBITDA margin improved from -6.6% in the same period last year, and a -10.2% in the last quarter to a -5.9% this quarter.

Our total revenue were RMB 1,864.4 million this quarter, which were in line with our previous outlook. Within that, revenue from public cloud services was RMB 1,153.7 million, compared with RMB 1,380.8 million in the same period of last year. The decrease was mainly due to our proactive adjustments of the CDN business, as well as impact from our client's structure adjustments. Revenue from enterprise cloud was RMB 710 million, compared with RMB 792.5 in the same period of last year. The decrease was mainly due to the January infection of COVID-19, seasonality impact, and product quality control.

We continue to enhance our cost control measures. Total cost of revenue decreased by 20.2% year-over-year to RMB 1,670.2 million. IDC costs decreased significantly by 21.4% year-over-year from RMB 1,110.3 million to RMB 872.4 million this quarter. Depreciation and amortization costs decreased by 8.7% from RMB 246.1 million in the same period of last year to RMB 224.6 million this quarter. Solution development and services costs decreased by 11% from RMB 476 million to RMB 423.6 million this quarter. Fulfillment costs and other costs were RMB 122.7 million and RMB 26.9 million this quarter.

Adjusted gross profit of this quarter increased by 133% to RMB 194.4 million, representing adjusted gross margin of 10.4% compared with 3.8% in the same period of last year. The significant margin improvement demonstrates the success of our strategic adjustments of our revenue mix, optimized enterprise cloud product selections, and efficient cost control measures and reaffirm our strong commitment to improving our profitability and delivering high quality and a sustainable development. To help the market and investors better understand our business and our path to profitability, we separately disclose the gross margin and gross profit for public cloud and enterprise cloud in order to better reflect our business nature.

Within our business lines, Gross profit of public cloud services was RMB 24.8 million, which was significantly improved from the gross loss of RMB 47.2 million in the same period of last year. Gross margin of public cloud services were 2.1% compared with -3.4% in the same period of last year. The improvement was mainly due to the proactive scaling down of CDN services and adjustments of our client structure. Gross profit of enterprise cloud services was RMB 169 million, compared with RMB 127.4 million in the same period of last year. Gross margin of enterprise cloud services was 23.8%, improved from 16.1% in the same period of last year.

The improvement was mainly due to our more stringent enterprise cloud product selection strategy. In terms of expenses, excluding share-based compensation and impairment of long-lived assets, our total adjusted operating expenses were RMB 595.8 million, decreasing by 18.3% from RMB 729.6 million last quarter. Within that, adjusted R&D expenses was RMB 202.6 million, decreasing by 15.4% from last quarter. Adjusted selling and marketing expenses was RMB 104.2 million compared with RMB 118.4 million last quarter. Adjusted G&A expenses decreased largely by 22.3% from RMB 371.9 million last quarter to RMB 289.1 million.

As of March 21st, 2023, our cash and cash equivalents and short-term investments amounted to RMB 4.5 billion, providing us with significant and sufficient liquidity for operations. The capital expenditures for this quarter was RMB 44.6 million, which primarily consists of payments for servers. We have been taking control of our procurement of traditional servers, such as the ones being used for CDN business. While for high-performance servers, especially in the recent popular AIGC areas, we have been actively cooperating with our suppliers in various ways to access the resources needed. Including but not limited to capital expenditure model, we also in the operational leasing, which was payments will now be included in our CapEx, but amounted will be an OpEx model.

Meanwhile, due to the payment schedule, certain cash payments for server purchases, including the servers, will be used for the AIGC business, which we ordered earlier this year, will be gradually reflecting sequentially in the following quarters. Lastly, we have recently released our ESG report for 2022 to present a very in-depth review of the company's progress in the last year in the ESG practice. We've also noticed that recognition from rating agencies and scoring of the company increased from certain well-known ESG agencies. We have taken great pride in advocating the highest ESG standards. We will continuously strengthen our ESG governance and engage with our partners to amplify our positive impact in the cloud industry and the society, thereby delivering long-term value for our shareholders.

Looking ahead, we will continue to pursue our high-quality development strategy and unlock synergies within the Xiaomi and the Kingsoft group ecosystems while staying agent to capture new opportunities in the new era of AI technology advances. We expect our total revenue to be between RMB 1.85 billion-RMB 2.0 billion for the second quarter of 2023. While this forecast comments above are based on our current and preliminary views on the market and operational conditions, which are subject to change. With which we firmly believe that given the time, the effect of our ongoing strategy initiatives and the new business opportunities, especially in the AI PC areas, will continue to amplify and reflect our financial results in the mid to long term. Thank you.

Nicole Shan (IR Manager)

Thank you. This concludes our prepared remarks. Thanks for your attention and we are now happy to take our questions. Please ask your question in both Chinese Mandarin and English if possible. Operator, please go ahead. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Ladies and gentlemen, we now begin the question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. We are now taking the first question. The first question from Xiao Zhang from CICC. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Xiao Zhang (Equity Research Analyst)

Hey, my first question is on our pricing strategies. We noticed that several cloud service providers has announced their price cuts on their products in the past few months. Could you please share your views on the price trend going onwards, and are we going to make adjustments to our pricing strategies accordingly? My second question is on our TP margin. We have seen a meaningful sequential improvement in the gross profit margin for the first quarter. Is this improvement sustainable, and what is our expectation for the segmental gross profit margins in the mid to long term? Thank you.

Speaker 6

Okay. Indeed, we have noticed our tier players' so-called large scale price cut, and we have analyzed it carefully. In terms of conclusion, I would say that its impact to our current products and services are limited and there's actually no material impact to our current offerings of products and services. As to in the future, whether we will have anything similar in terms of pricing strategy, we should say that the tier players' catalog price cut is actually limited. If we just, you know, take a close look at the specific products that are included in this action. We also do not think that it has any material impact to the industry as of now. Our feeling is that this action is more geared towards PR purposes.

Thank you.

He Haijian (CFO)

Thank you, Sophia. Happy to take on the second question regarding the gross profit. As you mentioned, we are very happy to see that, especially starting from the second half of last year, the company has adopted quite a important initiatives to expanding our gross profits. Which you probably can see in the recent results have achieved very positive results. Also, I want to put the data into the context in the past six quarters, actually. If you remember, the lowest point on the gross margin was back in Q4 of 2021. At that time, if you remember, our gross margin on a company level was only about 1.2%.

In the past six quarters, especially the second half of last year, we sequentially increasing the gross margin to today's about 10.2%, which is actually almost 7-8x higher than the Q4 2021. It reflecting a combination of a few important reasons and the drivers. First, is really the better mix of the products, including our efforts to cutting back certain low profit margin products, and also increasing the diversification of the top clients and medium-sized clients as well, which actually giving Kingsoft Cloud a better positioning in terms of the pricing power and the terms, and the commercial terms we negotiated with our customers. Second is our efforts to cutting back certain resources from servers, the bandwidth and the lower utilized cabinets as well.

All those efforts are the coming as the combination of those impact to our gross margin. More importantly, it's really our internal strategy and management quality in terms of how we control, how we deliver, how we execute the enterprise cloud products, and how we make sure in terms of the PMO office can actually take a very good roles in managing the cost and the efficiency of enterprise cloud. On this quarter, we are first time to separate the gross margin of enterprise cloud and public cloud. As you can see, both business lines are making a positive gross margin, and we're happy to see that trend more going forward.

On the second point you're asking, I think the key trend we're trying to see is three things. First of all, on a combined basis, we're happy to see and hopefully, the growth margin of Kingsoft Cloud as a company will improving sequentially on a quarter-over-quarter basis. I think we are, we are confident to see that the trend going forward, given the few things we already see the good results and continue to do that.

Second, I think the potential of the growth margin expansion of the public cloud will be, more, propelled compared with enterprise cloud. We're gonna make sure the potential of the margin expansion on public cloud we're taking a more obvious role in terms of margin expansion of the company. Also on the same time, we want to make sure the gross margin of enterprise cloud will keep a sustainable basis and will expand on a relatively rational pacing as well.

By doing two things, hopefully we can keep the gross margin on the company level will continue to grow as well. The last point, I think we'll also take a very, very careful view regarding the growth versus the profitability. It doesn't say that margin is the only one factor we're trying to keep a focus, but also balancing the growth opportunities in terms of, for example, the recent AI opportunities, where we make sure we have enough resources to invest. On the same time, we're gonna make sure our gross margins are continuing to improve and our CEO also mentioned, we'll make a very rational decision and are not going to follow any irrational trends in terms of pricing cuts and other things that are reflecting the potential risk of our growth margin. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Thank you for your question. We are now taking the next question. The next question from Brian Gong from Citi. Please go ahead.

Brian Gong (Internet and Media Research Research)

I will translate myself, thanks management for taking my question. Just a follow-up to the Henry's points that Kingsoft Cloud will balance growth versus profitability ahead. When should we see, you know, public cloud and enterprise cloud growth will accelerate again in the future? Also, Tao ZOU just mentioned the impacts from AI on Kingsoft Cloud. Can management elaborate, have we seen any, you know, large language model from third party already on our cloud? Also do we have enough GPU, those chips, to meet the demand in the future? Thank you.

Tao ZOU (Vice Chairman and CEO)

AI 这 波 对 我 们 来 讲 就 是 一 次 非 常 好 的 机 会 。 其 实 你 后 面 也 问 到 了 ， 这 2nd 3rd 个 问 题 都 类 似 。 所 以 我 们 也 认 为 这 次 反 正 我 们 也 多 次 对 外 说 ， 对 我 们 这 次 这 个 中 立 云 厂 商 的 这 个 定 位 ， 其 实 在 这 次 也 表 现 很 明 显 。 其 实 此 外 呢 ， 其 实 这 一 次 整 个 围 绕 这 个 AI 这 波 ， Xiaomi 、 Kingsoft 、 Shunwei Capital 的 整 体 的 协 同 作 战 呢 ， 也 效 果 非 常 显 著 。

所 以 呢 ， 公 云 我 认 为 机 会 已 经 来 了 ， 好 不 好 ？ 等 一 下 回 答 你 2nd 3rd 个 问 题 我 还 会 展 开 。 私 有 云 呢 ， 这 个 主 要 我 们 自 己 内 部 是 争 议 经 3 块 ， 那 个 都 略 有 不 同 。 自 从 像 政 企 这 块 呢 ， 其 实 我 们 那 个 总 体 来 讲 现 在 是 先 聚 焦 ， 把 原 有 的 模 式 夯 实 。 所 以 呢 ， 目 前 我 们 锁 定 的 区 域 呢 ， 也 是 有 之 前 的 全 面 撒 开 呢 ， 逐 步 锁 定 到 以 Beijing 、 Hubei 先 为 根 据 地 。

但 实 际 上 呢 ， 我 们 在 这 2 个 区 域 的 这 个 政 务 云 的 这 个 增 速 呢 也 是 非 常 快 的 ， 尤 其 是 这 个 盈 利 能 力 。

但 是 呢 ， 就 是 我 刚 才 也 谈 到 ， 就 是 我 们 总 体 区 域 是 在 收 缩 。 相 比 前 几 年 呢 ， 你 会 看 到 就 是 我 们 过 去 基 本 上 全 国 开 发 ， 遍 地 开 发 ， 所 以 呢 项 目 数 量 呢 ， 短 时 间 之 内 可 能 反 倒 是 跟 你 前 比 呢 ， 你 会 发 现 ， 那 个 可 能 阶 段 性 的 还 会 变 少 ， 但 实 际 上 这 个 等 这 些 项 目 的 盈 利 能 力 呢 ， 这 个 反 而 是 增 加 的 。

所 以 对 于 未 来 长 期 去 看 呢 ， 我 们 认 为 先 收 回 来 做 实 夯 实 了 ， 把 技 术 服 务 夯 实 了 ， 再 撒 出 去 呢 ， 这 个 未 来 只 会 越 来 越 快 ， 好 不 好 ？

然 后 那 个 医 疗 数 智 、 数 健 康 这 个 板 块 呢 ， 我 刚 才 在 那 个 earnings call 的 时 候 也 谈 到 ， 我 们 5 种 模 式 在 经 过 过 去 2-3 年 的 这 个 打 磨 ， 其 实 我 们 现 在 已 经 进 入 到 了 这 个 在 5 ， 将 5 种 模 式 在 全 国 去 复 制 推 广 的 这 么 一 个 阶 段 。

从 今 年 这 个 有 的 商 机 以 及 这 个 具 体 跟 进 的 一 些 项 目 来 看 呢 ， 其 实 也 是 在 一 个 加 速 的 过 程 当 中 ， 好 吧 。 也 就 是 说 对 于 数 健 康 这 个 板 块 呢 ， 其 实 无 论 是 盈 利 能 力 还 是 这 个 营 收 能 力 ， 其 实 我 认 为 都 在 起 速 。 好 吧 。 这 是 1st 个 问 题 。

Speaker 6

Thank you. I'm going to answer your question separately since you mentioned for both our public cloud and the enterprise cloud. In the public cloud space as you know we mainly serve Internet customers or Quasi-Internet customers. As you also mentioned in the second question the current wave of AIGC or AI is in itself a very good wave of opportunities for us.

As we have commented on we will continue to leverage our neutrality positioning which is well manifested in the fact that we are able to engage with a large number of independent AI developers. The effects of our coordinated and strategic approach with Kingsoft and Xiaomi ecosystem is also very good. This is about our public cloud opportunities.

In terms of enterprise cloud, because we have three basically different main major verticals, namely public cloud, public services, digital health and finances. I'm going to answer to you separately. In the first part is the public services cloud. Our overall strategy in this line of business is to actually shrink and to focus a little bit in terms of geographical locations first. In terms of project number you might see the number of projects decreasing, but the profitability will be increasing and we'll be focusing on the core some of the core regions for example Beijing and Hubei provinces.

We believe that in the medium to long term such approach which namely is to shrink and to enhance our technology capabilities and services first and then to expand is a healthier way of growth. Secondly in terms of digital health as we commented in the prepared remarks we are enhancing and we are pushing forward the five models of digital health business. We see it accelerating not only in terms of profitability but also in terms of revenue scale. That's basically about the you know the enterprise cloud side.

Tao ZOU (Vice Chairman and CEO)

OK。

第 二 个 ， 呃 你 刚 才 问 到 啊 ， 就 是 作 为 中 - 中 立 的 云 厂 商 啊 ， 现 在 很 多 其 他 第 三 方 的 ， 呃 不 是 第 三 方 ， 其 他 的 一 些 呃 做 大 模 型 的 AI 公 司 ， 有 多 少 在 我 们 这 跑 啊 ？ 这 个 说 实 话 我 - 我 确 实 没 有 办 法 具 体 回 答 你 ， 呃 因 为 一 来 呢 ， 这 个 涉 及 到 这 个 客 户 本 身 的 隐 私 ， 二 来 呢 ， 其 实 我 们 有 很 多 项 目 本 身 也 是 在 这 个 签 合 同 、 呃 交 付 这 个 部 署 的 这 个 过 程 当 中 。

所 以 呢 ， 这 个 呃 反 正 我 也 多 次 谈 到 ， 啊 就 作 为 中 立 的 云 厂 商 ， 在 这 次 的 AI 这 波 当 中 呢 ， 我 们 确 实 是 体 现 了 它 的 这 个 独 特 优 势 。 对 ， 这 个 我 - 我 只 能 是 去 说 到 这 步 ， 好 不 好 ？ 也 希 望 你 谅 解 。

Speaker 6

As to your second question as to how many large language model providers or companies are running on our platform, I have to say that I apologize we cannot answer you your question in details. This is due to the fact that, first of all, the confidentiality consideration of our customers, and secondly, currently we still have a large amount of, you know, such companies that we are in the negotiating stage for potential transactions.

Tao ZOU (Vice Chairman and CEO)

Okay.

Speaker 6

As your third question about our GPU chips reserve, the short answer and the conclusion is it's definitely good to have more. We have been seeing great enthusiasm from such customers and expecting to expand the AI-related business. As you know that in the market, A100 has been essentially banned by the U.S. side. We also see very tight supply on A800 market. As I commented earlier, we are adopting flexible and combined channels to satisfy such needs. That will include, first of all, directly owning such ships or GPU servers. Secondly, in terms of leasing such assets. What we can say is that we definitely try our best to meet such needs and to satisfy our potential our existing and potential customers' needs in that regard.

He Haijian (CFO)

Thank you, Brian. Thanks for the question. Just add, only two points. First of all, you know, today we are publishing our Q1 results. As you remember, back in Q1, the AIGC topic was emerged actually in early part of April. Definitely not in the current quarter's results. We actually keep quite positive regarding the growth prospects, given in Q1, as you know, the part of the China was affected in COVID. Many of the bidding process during the Two Sessions, if you remember back in March, was affected as well on the timing. As we actually promised, probably one or two quarters earlier, so on this quarter with as a first step, we are separately disclose our gross margin on public cloud and the private cloud.

As a second step, hopefully in the coming quarters, we are going to also disclose our backlog numbers and other things. I think we are going to see some growth potential in the timing and the pacing of those growth opportunities in the coming quarter as well, which are going to be a combination of AIGC opportunities and the money we spend and how we actually control the balance of the growth and profits.

The second point is, maybe some of you also noticed that in Q1 our CapEx number was a little low. I think that's also not a reflecting implication on the growth in terms of the spending because, you know, on a cash flow category, we actually haven't, you know, ordered the servers, but the timing of those payments has not hit accounts on the cash flow items in Q1. Many of the new opportunities are coming in April and in May, are actually are working on those opportunities as well. I think these are the two hot points, hopefully can be helpful for you. For the next quarter, hopefully we can give you more color regarding the backlog, and you can see the growth opportunities in a more kind of quantitative way are coming forward. Thank you.

Brian Gong (Internet and Media Research Research)

Thank you. That's very helpful.

Operator (participant)

Thank you for your question. There are no further questions. I will hand back the conference to Nicole Shan for closing remarks.

Nicole Shan (IR Manager)

Thank you, operator. Thank you once again for joining us today. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us. Look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Thank you. Have a nice day.

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