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Kimball Electronics - Earnings Call - Q3 2025

May 7, 2025

Executive Summary

  • Q3 FY25 delivered revenue and EPS above S&P Global consensus, with net sales of $374.6m vs $338.1m est. and adjusted EPS of $0.27 vs $0.19 est.; management reiterated FY25 outlook and expects to finish at the high end for sales and adjusted operating margin. The quarter included a $24m nonrecurring consigned inventory sale that lifted revenue but pressured gross margin mix. Consensus values marked with * sourced from S&P Global.
  • Sequential improvement: sales +5% Q/Q on the consigned sale; gross margin rose to 7.2% (from 6.6% in Q2); adjusted operating margin improved to 4.2% (from 3.7%) as restructuring actions took hold.
  • Strategic pivot advanced: KE signed a lease for a new 300k sq ft Indianapolis facility to scale medical CMO; lease terms defer rent during build-out, and management highlighted expanding high-level assemblies and drug-device capabilities.
  • Balance sheet strength and cash discipline remained catalysts: fifth straight quarter of positive operating cash flow ($30.9m), borrowings reduced to $178.8m (down $26m Q/Q), liquidity of $304.6m; buybacks continued with $3m repurchased in Q3 and $19.3m remaining authorization.
  • Risks/puts: Automotive and Industrial remained down double-digit YoY; tariff uncertainty clouds near-term planning; Q3’s nonrecurring revenue lift and a higher FY25 tax-rate outlook (~30%) temper EPS flow-through despite OI leverage.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Sequential execution and margin progress: “Sales in Q3 were in line with expectations and increased sequentially. Margins improved… cash from operations was positive… borrowings now 45% lower than peak levels,” CEO noted. Gross margin reached 7.2% and adjusted OI margin 4.2%.
  • Medical vertical and CMO strategy advanced: Medical sales rose 2% YoY to $115m (31% mix), aided by a nonrecurring consigned sale; KE announced a new Indianapolis medical facility to scale high-level assemblies and drug-device combinations.
  • Working capital and deleveraging: Inventory fell to $296.6m (down $9.6m Q/Q and ~$100m YoY), CCD improved to 99 days (from 107/110), operating cash flow was $30.9m, and borrowings fell to $178.8m.

What Went Wrong

  • Year-over-year contraction: Total net sales declined 12% YoY to $374.6m; gross margin of 7.2% was down 70 bps YoY as the consigned sale carried low markup and lower absorption weighed on EMS factories.
  • End-market weakness outside Medical: Automotive (-14% YoY) and Industrial (-15% YoY, ex-AT&M) declined across regions, with EV steering demand sequentially lower and commoditization pressuring smart meters; North America auto volumes were soft and a Mexico braking program is winding down.
  • Higher tax rate and policy uncertainty: Q3 effective tax rate was 46.6% (mix, interest deductibility limits, withholding taxes); FY25 tax guided to ~30%. Management underscored tariff uncertainty that could force changes in delivery points, production shifts, or tariff payments.

Transcript

Operator (participant)

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Kimball Electronics third quarter fiscal 2025 earnings conference call. My name is Kevin, and I'll be your facilitator for today's call. All lines have been placed in a listen-only mode to prevent any background noise. After the completion of the prepared remarks from the Kimball Electronics leadership team, there'll be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, simply press star and the number one on your telephone keypad. Today's call, May 7, 2025, is being recorded. A replay of the call will be made available on the investor relations page of the Kimball Electronics website. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Andy Regrut, Treasurer and Investor Relations Officer. Mr. Regrut, you may begin.

Andy Regrut (Treasurer and Investor Relations Officer)

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our third quarter conference call. With me here today is Ric Phillips, our Chief Executive Officer; Jana Croom, Chief Financial Officer; and Steve Korn, Chief Operating Officer. We issued a press release yesterday afternoon with our results for the third quarter of fiscal 2025 ended March 31, 2025. To accompany today's call, a presentation has been posted to the investor relations page on our company website. Before we get started, I'd like to remind you that we will be making forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty and are subject to our safe harbor provisions as stated in our press release and FCC filings, and that actual results can differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Our commentary today will be focused on adjusted non-GAAP results. Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP amounts are available in our press release.

This morning, Ric will start the call with a few opening comments. Jana will review the financial results for the quarter and guidance for fiscal 2025, and Ric will complete our prepared remarks before taking your questions. I'll now turn the call over to Ric.

Ric Phillips (CEO)

Thanks, Andy, and good morning, everyone. I am proud of the results for the third quarter and our team's ability to navigate an environment of uncertainty while focusing on what is controllable. Sales in Q3 were in line with expectations and increased sequentially. Margins improved. We continue to generate cash from operating activities, and the paydown of debt continued, with borrowings now 45% lower than peak levels. We have ample liquidity to weather the short-term unpredictable environment and significant dry powder to opportunistically invest in the business longer term. As part of today's release, we are reiterating our guidance for fiscal 2025 with the expectation that we'll be at the top end of the range for sales and operating income. We also announced the addition of a new manufacturing facility in Indianapolis focused on the medical industry.

This is another step of repositioning the company for a return to growth and expanding our presence as a medical CMO, which will occur over time. To accelerate this strategy, we're looking to better strategically utilize the cash generated from our EMS operations and redeploy capital to the CMO. We remind everyone that the revenue cycle of CMO is similar to EMS, and as a result, organic revenue growth will take time. In our company's history, EMS generates high levels of cash when operating conditions are at historic norms, and this cash will be used to grow the medical CMO through organic and potentially inorganic channels. The margin profile on higher-level assemblies and finished medical devices could be accretive to the returns that are customary with contract manufacturing in EMS.

To keep pace with industry growth, we are looking to continue to elevate our prominence in medical with an expanded manufacturing footprint through adjacencies and additional vertical integration of our production capabilities. Turning back to the third quarter, net sales totaled $375 million, a 10% decline year-over-year when excluding the AT&M business, which was divested earlier this fiscal year. From an end-market perspective, sales in medical increased, while the other two verticals we serve were down in the quarter. Starting with medical, net sales in Q3 were $115 million, up 2% compared to the same period last year and 31% of total company sales. It is important to highlight that the increase in the quarter was driven by non-recurring consignment inventory sales to our largest medical customer. This transaction was related to obsolete inventory associated with the FDA recall.

We estimate the Q3 revenue impact on the medical vertical from the inventory sale was approximately 2%, and the revenue impact in total was about 6%. As previously announced, we are working with this same customer out of our facility in Thailand to launch their respiratory care final assembly and HLA business this summer, and we'll continue to see volume growth as the customer restores its place in the market. The step of adding a new, larger medically focused manufacturing facility in Indianapolis reflects our commitment to the CMO. The leased facility represents 300,000 sq ft, a complement to our capabilities that extend beyond electronics and printed circuit board assemblies and include operations such as precision injected molded plastics, complete device assembly, and cold chain management, all of which support the production of medical disposables, surgical instruments, and selected drug delivery devices such as auto injectors.

The plan is to transfer existing programs in Indianapolis to the new building over time and sell the buildings we currently operate out of. We will have more than enough floor space in the new facility for future growth with new and existing customers, including the transfer work. Next is automotive, our largest business, with net sales of $173 million, a 14% decrease compared to the third quarter of last year and 46% of the total company. Our automotive business is heavily concentrated in North America and China but growing in Europe with the launch of the braking platform in Romania. For the third consecutive quarter, results in China were strong. Sales in Europe increased modestly as the new electronic braking program in Romania started to ramp production.

North America, on the other hand, reported a decline in sales, primarily driven by the electronic braking program in Reynosa, as previously discussed. We continue to monitor the demand for electronic steering systems for EVs globally, which were sequentially lower in the quarter. Finally, industrial, with net sales of $86 million, down 15% year-over-year when excluding AT&M and representing 23% of total company sales. The decrease occurred in all regions with the largest decline in Europe, followed by Asia, and a modest decrease in North America. Our customers continue to experience market share loss from the commoditization of smart meters and reductions in climate control and public safety products. We are seeing stability in climate control on the horizon; however, we do not anticipate smart meters to be a significant portion of our industrial vertical going forward.

I'll now turn the call over to Jana to provide more details on the financial results for Q3 and our guidance for the full year. Jana.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. As Ric highlighted a moment ago, net sales in the third quarter were $374.6 million, a 12% decrease year-over-year, 10% when excluding AT&M. Foreign exchange had a 1% unfavorable impact on consolidated sales in Q3. On a sequential basis, the top line increased 5% compared to Q2, driven by the $24 million non-recurring consigned inventory sale in the medical vertical. The gross margin rate in Q3 was 7.2%, a 70 basis point decline compared to 7.9% in the same period of fiscal 2024, with nearly half the decrease driven by the consigned inventory sale, which incorporated only a modest markup, and the balance of the decline coming from lower absorption, a result of reduced year-over-year sales in our EMS manufacturing facilities. On a sequential basis, however, our gross margin rate increased when compared to last quarter, the impact of restructuring.

Adjusted selling and administrative expense in the third quarter were $11.2 million, a $3.6 million, or 24% reduction compared to the $14.8 million we reported in Q3 last year, with the decrease primarily resulting from the absence of AT&M this year versus the full quarter of expense in fiscal 2024 and cost reduction efforts. When measured as a percentage of sales, adjusted selling and administrative expenses were 3%, a 50 basis point improvement compared to 3.5% in Q3 of fiscal 2024. Adjusted operating income for the third quarter was $15.7 million, or 4.2% of net sales, which compares to last year's adjusted results of $18.7 million, or 4.4% of net sales. Other income and expense was expense of $4.6 million compared to $6.3 million of expense last year, with the reduction being driven by lower interest expense, down 50% year-over-year.

The effective tax rate in the third quarter was 46.6% compared to 52.4% in Q3 of fiscal 2024. Our higher rate was primarily driven by the limitation of tax deductibility of our interest expense, which cannot exceed a certain percentage of domestic EBIT. Withholding taxes on global cash repatriation also drove the rate higher, but those funds were used to pay down debt, thus increased taxes are offset by lower interest expense. As a reminder, the effective tax rate last year was skewed higher by the impact of the impairment and restructuring charges associated with the AT&M business. We expect a tax rate around 30% for the full fiscal year. Adjusted net income in the third quarter of fiscal 2025 was $6.8 million, or $0.27 per diluted share, compared to adjusted net income in Q3 last year of $9.8 million, or $0.39 per diluted share.

Turning now to the balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents at March 31, 2025, were $51.4 million. Cash flow generated by operating activities in the quarter was $30.9 million, our fifth consecutive quarter of positive cash flow. Cash conversion days were 99 days compared to 110 days in Q3 of fiscal 2024 and 107 days last quarter. The decrease in CCD this quarter compared to Q2 was driven by improvements in DSOs and PDSOH. For clarity, our CCD calculation in Q3 excludes the consigned inventory sale. We are pleased with the progress we have made related to cash conversion and look to continue to significantly improve our cash conversion days as we actively and aggressively manage its components. Inventory ended the quarter at $296.6 million, which represents a $9.6 million reduction compared to Q2 and $100 million, or 25% lower than a year ago.

Please note that the consigned inventory sale did not contribute to the reduction. The inventory that was sold was consigned to Kimball and required movement into our possession with an immediate sale to our customer in the same month. Capital expenditures in the third quarter were $4 million. CapEx will likely be at the low end of the guidance range as we work through the timing of spend related to the transfer of work for the closure of the Tampa facility, the CMO strategy, and other investment needs. Borrowings at March 31, 2025, were $178.8 million, a $26 million reduction from the second quarter, and down $116 million, or 40% from the beginning of the fiscal year. Short-term liquidity available represented as cash and cash equivalents, plus the unused portion of our credit facility, totaled $304.6 million at the end of the third quarter.

This continues to be a great example of controlling what we can control and setting up our balance sheet for future growth. In the third quarter, we invested $3 million to repurchase 175,000 shares of Common Stock. Since October 2015, under our board-authorized share repurchase program, a total of $100.7 million has been returned to our share owners by purchasing 6.5 million shares of Common Stock. We have $19.3 million remaining on the repurchase program. As Ric mentioned, we are reiterating our guidance for fiscal year 2025 with net sales in the range of $1.4 billion-$1.44 billion. Adjusted operating income is estimated at 3.4%-3.6% of net sales and capital expenditures of $40 million-$50 million. Based on what we know today, we expect to be at the high end of ranges for sales and adjusted operating income margin.

Our estimates for the closing of the facility of Tampa have not changed, with total exit costs in the range of $6.5 million-$8.5 million, and we fully expect the proceeds from the sale of the property to exceed the exit costs. I'll now turn the call back over to Ric.

Ric Phillips (CEO)

Thanks, Jana. Before we open the lines for questions, I'd like to share a few thoughts in closing. It probably goes without saying that the current tariff environment is filled with uncertainty and unpredictability for many, including our business, our customers, and the end consumer. We continue to carefully monitor the situation to understand potential impacts and possible solutions for both the short and longer term. Options could include changing final delivery locations, shifting production to different Kimball facilities, or simply paying the tariffs. There may also be impacts on our supply chain, and we are considering alternatives for U.S. manufacturing. The rules of engagement need to be finalized before solutions can be agreed upon and implemented. This uncertainty makes the timing of recovery in our core EMS business increasingly more difficult to predict.

As we look to the future, it's important to recall the recent steps we've taken to reposition the company. We divested the non-core AT&M business. We are in the process of closing our Tampa facility to streamline our network, thus improving our global capacity utilization. We made major workforce and other cost reductions to respond to demand softness. We drove significant inventory and cash flow improvements, and we announced a lease signing for a new facility fully dedicated to the CMO. With a strong balance sheet, we're focused on returning to growth through emerging medical technologies, high-level assemblies, and a variety of drug-device combinations. We look to elevate our prominence as a medical CMO with expanded manufacturing capabilities in the United States, new adjacencies, and additional vertical integration in medical device production.

I'm optimistic we're getting closer to that return to growth and that we've taken the right steps to reposition the company for the future. Operator, we'd now like to open the lines for questions.

Operator (participant)

Certainly. We're now beginning the question and answer session. If you'd like to be placed in the question queue, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press Star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing star one. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Our first question today is coming from Mike Crawford from B. Riley Securities. Your line is now live.

Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director and Head of the Discovery Group)

Thank you, Kidd. Do you give us some more details about this strategy with this new larger facility in Indianapolis? What does this do to fix costs given the lease, any additional equipment you might buy, or labor? I guess the second part to that is, what might the owned facility that you would transfer over time be worth if you were to be able to sell that?

Ric Phillips (CEO)

Sure. I can start that, Mike, and thanks for joining us today. Yeah, we're really excited about the facility. It gives us, first of all, a lot more space, frankly, to expand and grow in the medical CMO compared to what we have currently in Indianapolis. It also is a brand new facility. It has different characteristics in terms of ceiling heights and layout and clean room capability that we're going to build that just is a game changer for us in terms of playing there. We did, as mentioned and as you asked, do this as a lease, which is not our typical approach. We typically own our facilities, and we did this intentionally and, frankly, creatively in terms of the lease terms to give us time and space to fill it over time. The ability to grow is there.

The ability to expand over time is there, but we're also not overburdened with large costs upfront, particularly given that it's a lease and given the terms of the lease.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Yeah, and Mike, I'll just add to that a little bit. The terms of the lease, just to give you a little insight, while we're doing the build-out and leasehold improvement, we actually don't start paying rent on the facility until all of that is done, which was important so that we weren't, to your point, having an expense drag on our income statement while we were getting the facility up and running. In terms of additional labor costs, etc., right now, we're not anticipating that we're going to have additional labor costs until we start to have the additional revenue and all those corresponding things coming along with that.

Right now, it's really just probably six or seven months from now, once we have the leasehold improvements in place, that we'll start experiencing the rent and then some depreciation costs associated with the equipment that we've got to put in place. This structure, in terms of creating the least amount of burden on both the balance sheet and the income statement while committing to the growth opportunity, I feel really good about the way that we did this.

Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director and Head of the Discovery Group)

Great. Potential value in the sale of the existing facility?

Steve Korn (COO)

I think it's too early to tell, Mike.

Yeah.

Mike, I believe it's too early to tell. The transition from the current facility to the new facility will probably take two to three years due to the FDA qualifications and validations of some of the products in the current facility, but we will provide more details as we go forward.

Jana Croom (CFO)

We're not anticipating, Mike, significant proceeds from the sale of the current assets.

Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director and Head of the Discovery Group)

Okay. Thank you. Just one more from me. It's nice to see that the uptick after five quarters of decline in open orders or backlog, roughly by vertical, how does that break out?

Steve Korn (COO)

Yeah. If I look at the verticals, Mike, the greatest increase was in medical from a dollar standpoint, followed by industrial and automotive were very similar in that increase.

Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director and Head of the Discovery Group)

Thank you. I'll jump back into the queue.

Ric Phillips (CEO)

Mike.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Next question is coming from Jaeson Schmidt from Lake Street Capital. Your line is now live.

Jaeson Schmidt (Director of Research)

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the strong March quarter. Just looking at the results here, do you think any orders were pulled into March, just given the backdrop?

Ric Phillips (CEO)

It's a great question, Jaeson. Frankly, we talk to our customers about that all the time. I would say uncertain. We haven't gotten strong indications that there's a lot of pull forward ahead of the tariffs necessarily, but we certainly are well aware that that could be a possibility. We don't have a great read on it, and we continue to talk to customers daily to get their take.

Jaeson Schmidt (Director of Research)

Gotcha. And then just looking at sort of the first month of Q4, curious what you're seeing from kind of a quoting activity and booking standpoint.

Ric Phillips (CEO)

In general, Jason, we're seeing a good trend. Again, we're cautious about it. We recognize the uncertainty of the environment, but we're seeing pockets of strength relative to where we've been. We take a good look at our funnel on a very regular basis, and I will say that our funnel is very healthy.

Jaeson Schmidt (Director of Research)

Perfect. And then last one from me, and I'll jump back into queue. Apologize if I missed this, but how should we think about OpEx trending the rest of this calendar year?

Jana Croom (CFO)

When you say OpEx trending, do you mean the expense piece, the gross margin, the operating income margin?

Jaeson Schmidt (Director of Research)

Really just sort of the selling and administrative expenses.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Yeah. This is something that we did want to touch on, and we were going to touch on in Q4. SG&A this year is low as a percentage of sales, right? We did that because we knew that this was going to be a challenging year in an environment. There was a lot of belt tightening. There was a fair amount of costs that we pushed out. In FY26, as you're thinking about it for modeling purposes, we are not going to be able to hold SG&A to 3% of net sales. There are some investments we're going to have to make to prepare the business for this return to growth. I would encourage you, as you're thinking about that, that 3% level is not a norm that we can hold and grow the business and prepare for the future.

Jaeson Schmidt (Director of Research)

Okay. That's really helpful. Thanks a lot, guys.

Ric Phillips (CEO)

Thanks, Jake.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. As a reminder, that's star one to be placed into question queue. Our next question is coming from Derek Soderberg from Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now live.

Derek Soderberg (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Yeah. Hey, thanks for taking the questions.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Hi.

Derek Soderberg (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Hey, Jana.

Sorry, I think you kind of broke up there. So Jana, just kind of continuing the conversation on us taking a modeling approach here looking forward, I think just in the short term, it looks like we're going to have a step down in gross margin, operating income percentage. I'm guessing that's tariffs. I think the math works out to maybe a 2% operating income margin for the last quarter here. Is that right? And can you just kind of talk about the short-term moves in gross margin, operating income, things like that, and then how we should think about those pieces for next fiscal year? Thanks.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Yeah. So I know that we guided to the high end of an OI range, 3.4%-3.6%. Next quarter is not going to be a 2% OI margin quarter.

We actually think next quarter is shaping up to be fairly similar to Q3, but we did not increase our estimates for OI margin because you're only one tweet away from who knows what. It just made sense to stay conservative and reserved, and we'll see how the quarter shakes out. I would model an expectation similar to what we did this quarter. The restructuring impacts are taking hold, and we're pleased with the progress, very hard-fought that the organization has made.

Derek Soderberg (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Got it. That's super helpful. Appreciate the clarity on that. As my follow-up, just on the Indianapolis facility, Ric, just curious why you feel like this was the right time to make this move. Can you just touch on the demand environment in medical, and then beyond sort of this more inorganic move, does this at all change the approach to inorganic growth from here? Can you just kind of talk about you've got this facility now, does that at all change your approach to inorganic growth in the medical space?

Ric Phillips (CEO)

Sure. Great question. As you know from prior quarters, the medical CMO has been a space that we're excited about. We, of course, play in today. We think we can play in a much larger way. Quite honestly, while our Indianapolis facility currently that we have is performing very well operationally, we can't get new big business in the medical CMO without a different facility. We made that investment. We're very encouraged by the conversations that we've been having over time with major players there. Yes, we continue to look hard at potential inorganic opportunities as well. All of this is based on our belief that this is, first of all, a very attractive space. Secondly, a space that we have some really differentiated capabilities in with our ability to handle drug, with what we already do, with injectors, etc.

This is an area of growth for us for sure in the future, and we want to do invest behind it.

Derek Soderberg (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Got it. That's helpful. Just one last one for me. Jana, continue to manage the balance sheet well here. Any more room to work with inventory management? Can you kind of touch on the cash conversion here? Where do you think that's going to be trending here? Finally, just on buybacks, it sounds like you've got about $20 million left. Do you feel like you guys are in a position to continue to repurchase shares here? Thanks.

Jana Croom (CFO)

I'll start with the share repurchase, and then I'll work my way backwards in your question. Yes, we expect to continue our share repurchase program. Expect for that to continue on, and we'll report on that in the quarters. That's the easy one. In terms of CCD, I look at where we were, and this is a huge partnership between operations and finance, right? Moving down from an excess of 110 days to where we're at currently, incredibly proud of the progress that we've made, but definitely still more to go. We feel like there's work that we can do in PDSOH. There's work that we can do in DSO and AP day parity and potentially a little beyond that to get the cash conversion days down.

We still think that there's a fair amount of room to go there in terms of our cash conversion.

Derek Soderberg (Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Sounds great. Really appreciate it. Thanks.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Next question today is coming from Anja Soderstrom from Sidoti & Company. Your line is now live.

Anja Soderstrom (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Most of them have been addressed already. When are you going to lapse that steering program fall off in the auto vertical?

Jana Croom (CFO)

That's probably a Steve question.

Steve Korn (COO)

Anja, the program is the braking program in Mexico, and that will fall off completely with the exception of some small service work at the end of this quarter.

Anja Soderstrom (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Okay. You are ramping some other programs, right? We should start seeing an increase.

Steve Korn (COO)

Right. As Ric mentioned, there is a new braking program that launched this quarter in Romania and looks to be very solid going forward. We have other programs that we are launching. That major braking program that Ric referred to was significantly less than it was a year ago and will continue to trend down and be complete by the end of this quarter.

Anja Soderstrom (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Okay. Thank you. With you closing the Tampa facility and moving some of that production to other facilities, and now you're opening another facility and going to move, how is that going to affect your gross margin going forward? When do you expect that to sort of normalize?

Steve Korn (COO)

Yeah. With the Tampa closure.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Why?

Steve Korn (COO)

Go ahead, Jana.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Go ahead, Steve. I'll chime in after.

Steve Korn (COO)

Yeah. Yeah. With the Tampa closure, we're still on target to have that wrapped up by the end of June. Our team has done a great job supporting our customers and our employees. I really applaud that team and our Jasper team and our other teams around the globe that have taken on that. It's gone very well, and we continue to be right on target to close that with how we expected it to be closed. We do expect some gross margin improvement there with that. The Indy facility is all contained with Indianapolis and just that facility. There will be a small impact to gross margin, but we don't see a major impact there with what we're doing in that move from one facility to the next.

Jana Croom (CFO)

The other thing I'll remind everybody of is, as our customers and our supply chain and we are dealing with the impact of tariffs, both known and unknown, consumer sensitivity on price is paramount and on everybody's mind. We're doing our best to hold our margin as best we can, but there are sensitivities out there, and we're not immune, and nobody else is either. We're doing everything that we can to hold it. I mean, Steve's in tough negotiations on a regular basis. We do expect some impact benefit from the Tampa closure, but we are also experiencing pressure that we're navigating.

Anja Soderstrom (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Okay. Thank you. And then just one last one in terms of CapEx spend and investments in automation and efficiencies. Do you still have a lot of room there to make improvements there, and that could sort of help your utilization and margins?

Steve Korn (COO)

Yeah. We have continued to make investments in automation, both in our warehouses and on our production floors, and we continue to see opportunities there. We have been on that journey now for four+ years, and we are continuing on that journey.

Anja Soderstrom (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Okay. Thank you. That was all for me.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Next question today is coming from Hendi Susanto from Gabelli Funds. Your line is now live.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Good morning, Ric, Jana, and Steve. I would like to ask about automotive first. Your manufacturing footprint in China, can you compare and contrast how different it is in terms of, let's say, 70% of your auto business is steering wheel? Is that the case in China also? If you look at the high level, what the revenue composition of China looks like, how different or how similar it is?

Steve Korn (COO)

I would say China is a little higher percentage on steering. And comparatively speaking, it is probably closer to 80% in steering in China across a number of tier-one customers and OEMs, both the domestic Chinese OEMs as well as the foreign OEMs.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Yeah. And then may I also ask about the braking program? Would you be able to disclose how many customers you are working with and then how many platforms in terms of design awards?

Steve Korn (COO)

Yeah. We're working with two or three different customers in braking. Can't share much more than that on platforms, but we continue to have very good opportunities in braking. That's typically the number of customers and some of our key customers across the globe today. The same customer that we had the business with in Mexico was the customer in Romania.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

May I know what type of vehicles?

Steve Korn (COO)

They're both ICE vehicles and EVs. We have braking on both.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Yeah. My next question is about the sales trend in industrial, the declines in smart metering, climate controls, and public safety products. Have we reached the bottom yet?

Steve Korn (COO)

I believe we've reached the bottom, or we believe we've reached the bottom in climate controls from what we're seeing. Smart metering, as we had in our release, we don't see that as a significant part of our industrial moving forward. Also in the public safety, we believe we've reached the bottom of that also.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

In order to see, let's say, growth returning in industrials, what are the top low-hanging fruits?

Steve Korn (COO)

The top low-hanging fruits is our current customers. We're seeing opportunities there with both new programs and current programs as industrial continues to come back. We have some new awards and some new verticals that we're also seeing some opportunities that are maybe 12-15 months out. We're seeing those opportunities as well as some charging opportunities with a couple of customers that we're seeing as well. Cannot announce any awards yet, but we are in a very good position with those customers.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Jana, I would like to understand this better. The consign inventory sale impact, you mentioned the impact was 22% and 6%. I would like to verify my understanding about those two different numbers, 22% on medical verticals.

Jana Croom (CFO)

It was 22% of the medical vertical specifically and 6% of total net sales.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. That is very helpful. Then with regard to the Tampa closing, the estimated exit cost is $6.5 million-$8.5 million. How much has incurred, let's say, year to date? When will the remainder be entirely in the fourth quarter of the current fiscal year?

Jana Croom (CFO)

Year to date, I actually have the restructuring in front of me right now. We've done about $3.5 million-$4 million. The bulk of the closing, again, with our goal of being closed by 6/30 fiscal 2025, will incur next quarter.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Okay. So there's maybe between $3 million and $4 million left for.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Yeah. I'd say there's about $3.5 million of expense left, perhaps more than that. We'll incur, I would say, probably 90% of that next quarter. There may be a tail into Q1 of 2026, just depending on the process and the transfer of work. I will say, and I echo Steve's comments, our Tampa team has been absolutely amazing. They have just done an incredible job with this. We're going to take care of our customers and make sure that we do it right. If that bleeds over a little bit into Q1, it will.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Okay. Yeah. One last question. I think with regard to, let's say, ongoing trend of inventory digestion in certain spots, whether it is in industrial or automotive, and now we have uncertainty, can you highlight where inventory corrections is better today compared to three months ago? When do you see areas where customers may do inventory rebuild sometime soon? Some companies are expecting incremental or gradual improvement in the second half. I'm wondering whether you can share some puts and takes on inventory digestion that has been ongoing for a while versus when customers may rebuild their inventories.

Steve Korn (COO)

Yeah. Hendi, as we've shared, our inventory has come down to $100 million over the last 12 months. We continue to see a positive trend moving forward as we burn down our excess inventory. It is really across all of our verticals, maybe a little stronger in industrial and medical. We had a significant amount of LTSA or long-term supply agreement inventory that we took from suppliers that is now burning down at a very good rate. We continue to see that going forward. We are not seeing a significant buildup of inventory at our customers today. We will monitor that very closely. As Jana mentioned, the environment obviously is very difficult to read with the tariffs and things that are happening. From what we see, we will continue to see that inventory come down over the next 12 months.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Thank you, Ric. Yeah. I think I would like to clarify what I meant was on the customer side, what you are seeing on the customer side. I guess what you said is mimicking.

Yeah. The customer side.

Jana Croom (CFO)

Inventory destocking done in terms of what we had seen in some of the verticals. Do you feel like we're past that? Is that what you're asking, Henry?

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Yes. Yes. On the customer side. Yeah.

Steve Korn (COO)

Yeah. I believe we're past that. What we're seeing today from our customers is their sharing is there's not a significant amount of inventory in their channels, but it's hard to see. We don't have complete visibility to that.

Hendi Susanto (Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager)

Yeah. Thank you so much.

Ric Phillips (CEO)

Thanks, Hendi.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Next question today is a follow-up from Mike Crawford from B. Riley. Your line is now live.

Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director and Head of the Discovery Group)

Thank you. I just wanted to go back to your guidance. You talked about being at the high end of your guidance. I mean, that implies just, I do not know, $335 million of revenue in June quarter versus what I think Jana said it was a $23 million consigned inventory sale because that 22% and 6% come to slightly different numbers. One is $25 million. One is $22 million.

Jana Croom (CFO)

It's $24 million.

Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director and Head of the Discovery Group)

I'm sorry?

Jana Croom (CFO)

It's $24 million of consigned inventory sales.

Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director and Head of the Discovery Group)

Okay. What would it take for you to exceed that $335 million-ish that it would take to get over the high end of your guidance?

Jana Croom (CFO)

Demand continues to be strong. It'll be higher, and we'll beat it.

Mike Crawford (Senior Managing Director and Head of the Discovery Group)

Okay. Thank you.

Ric Phillips (CEO)

Thank you.

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