Lithium Argentina - Earnings Call - Q1 2025
May 15, 2025
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Operator (participant)
Thank you for standing by. My name is Kate, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Lithium Argentina AG First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press Star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press Star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Kelly O'Brien, Vice President, Investor Relations and ESG. Please go ahead.
Kelly O'Brien (VP of Investor Relations and ESG)
Thank you for the introduction. I want to welcome everyone to our earnings conference call this morning. Joining me on the call today to discuss our first quarter results is Sam Pigott, President and CEO. Alex Shulga, VP and CFO, will also be available during the Q&A session. Before we begin, I would like to cover a few items. Our first quarter 2025 earnings press release was issued last evening, and the corresponding documents are available on our company website. I remind you that some of the statements made during this call, including any production guidance, expected company performance, update on the regional development plan, the timing of our projects, and market conditions, may be considered forward-looking statements. Please note the cautionary language about forward-looking statements in our presentation, MD&A, and news release. I will now turn the call over to Sam.
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. We will start on slide three, where we highlight several key achievements this quarter that reflect our strategy and our ongoing commitment to long-term value creation. Overall, the operation delivered production in line with expectations. As previously noted, planned maintenance and optimization efforts to improve reliability and drive lower unit costs resulted in a slight decline in production volumes. This was reflected in our 2025 guidance, and we are already seeing the benefits from these changes, with April production back over 85% capacity. On the cost side, the operation maintained low production costs in an even more challenging pricing environment. Our disciplined approach to cost management and process efficiency remains a cornerstone of our competitive advantage. Strategically, we have taken important steps to unlock value and define our growth plans.
We executed a letter of intent with our partner, Ganfeng, to jointly develop new regional projects targeting a combined capacity of 150,000 tons per annum of lithium carbonate equivalent. This represents a significant opportunity to advance our long-term development plans while increasing our strategic and financial flexibility in the near term without any substantial capital commitment. Finally, we published our 2024 sustainability report, which provides a transparent view of our current environmental and social performance. It highlights the progress we are making in areas like water use, environmental monitoring, community engagement, and governance practices. This report helps keep us accountable to both our operational goals and stakeholder expectations. We entered the year with clear operational targets and are delivering according to our plans. As a result of the maintenance and optimization efforts mentioned, lithium carbonate production was slightly lower in the first quarter.
These planned shutdowns focused on optimization and lowering costs and were largely completed in Q1. By April, production returned to over 85% of nameplate capacity. Cash operating costs remained low, reflecting our focus on cost discipline. We continued to advance targeted cost reduction initiatives that aim to lower operating costs by an additional 5%-10% in 2025 without compromising performance or quality. We continue to anticipate higher production volumes in the second half and reaffirm the operation remains on track to meet full-year guidance of 30,000 tons-35,000 tons. This slide outlines the financial highlights at Cauchari-Olaroz. Cash operating costs remain competitive at $6,600 per ton, with costs slightly lower than expected. We note a portion of our maintenance-related costs were deferred to the second quarter. We remain diligent on costs, especially in the current pricing environment, and are taking continued efforts to reduce these costs further.
On the balance sheet, we have made significant progress here in recent quarters. At the project level, we continue to work with Ganfeng and expect to have over $200 million in additional liquidity from low-cost, unsecured debt facilities. This excess debt capacity should provide a buffer to support ongoing operations and refinance existing debt, extending maturities into 2027 and 2028, enhancing our financial flexibility. We also continue to work closely with Ganfeng to advance and define our long-term growth plans. This continues to be a priority, even in this more challenging pricing environment, given the limited capital requirements and the strategic and financial opportunities we see from advancing these efforts. In April, we executed an LOI to jointly develop and consolidate our regional growth in Pozuelos and Pastos Grandes Basin with Ganfeng.
We are finalizing the development plan now that integrates Ganfeng's DLE processing technology with our conventional solar evaporation pond process and expect the results to support attractive, large-scale, and low-cost development. We are working with Ganfeng to assess the best options to unlock value here, including collaboration with potential customers and strategic partners. You will also notice we mentioned the plan has flexibility to produce lithium chloride or lithium carbonate. This is based on customer interest to support emerging cathode chemistries at the lowest cost. As we look beyond the first quarter, our focus remains on further lowering costs to reinforce our position as a low-cost producer. Second, with optimization activities now complete, we are increasing production volumes into the second half of the year and remain on track with full-year guidance.
Third, with the completion of the previously announced letter of intent with Ganfeng, we plan to continue to prudently advance our growth plans and use these initiatives to increase our strategic and financial flexibility. Finally, we continue to strengthen the balance sheet at Cauchari-Olaroz, extending maturities and ensuring we remain well-capitalized through the current price cycle. Across all fronts, we're proud of the progress we're making in Argentina. From scaling up at Cauchari-Olaroz to defining our growth pipeline, we're building a platform for long-term growth. Thank you, and now we'll turn it over for questions.
Operator (participant)
At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask the question, please press Star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. We request that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Ben Isaacson with Scotiabank. Your line is open.
Ben Isaacson (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Thank you very much, and good morning, everyone. Sam, just a question on the cash cost outlook over time. You came in at around $6,600 this quarter. You've talked about some deferral of the maintenance into Q2, so presumably things maybe bump up a little bit. Just looking out further ahead, you've talked about how DLE will bring costs down. Eventually, you're going to have stage two that'll bring costs down. You're also doing a cost optimization effort of 5%-10%. Can you just kind of walk us through the shape of how you see cash costs evolving over the next four to six quarters?
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Sure. Thanks for the question, Ben. I think coming into this and what we disclosed at the year-end Q4 was that we expected operating costs to be in line with the average of last year. I think what we've seen so far is these cost optimization strategies really paying off. So what we disclosed is an expected decrease in operating costs between 5% and 10%, and those will be captured this year. I think you're correct. $6,600 reflected some deferral of costs into Q2. There will be some variability quarter-over-quarter, but we expect, again, this year for this cost optimization program to deliver 5%-10% improvement over what we guided to at the end of last year. Longer term, I mean, the technical update feasibility that we put out had long-term costs of $6,500.
I mean, that was based on what we were experiencing Q4 and basically extrapolating to 40,000 tons. I think that is certainly achievable from what we're seeing and what we think we'll get to by the end of the year. I'd say in addition to that, I mean, I think we do see opportunities along with Ganfeng to lower costs beyond that just on stage one conventional. The DLE, which we're going to be integrating into stage one, the demonstration plant, it provides an opportunity to lower costs even further. Largely, the cost savings will come from two places. One, improved recoveries, and the second one will be a reduction in the amount of reagents used. Long story short, we expect operating costs to be 5%-10% below the average of last year, this year.
Longer term, 2026, 2027, working with Ganfeng to kind of achieve and hopefully surpass the $6,500 target in our feasibility study. Longer term, with the DLE plant, we expect costs to be even lower than there.
Ben Isaacson (Managing Director of Equity Research)
That's really, really great color. Thank you for that, Sam. Just two more very quick ones for me. You mentioned a couple of times in the MD&A about easing FX restrictions in Argentina. How will that benefit Lithium Argentina? And maybe just some context of timing or magnitude. What should we be looking for? Why should we be excited about this?
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Maybe for this, I'll turn it over to Alex Shulga, our CFO.
Alex Shulga (VP and CFO)
Hey, Ben, this is Alex. We do see that Milei is following on his promises to remove or reduce restrictions specifically around foreign exchange. In April, there was a first step mostly aimed at easing restrictions for individuals. The expectation is that this will follow towards the end of the year with reducing restrictions for corporates. It generally will help overall economic environment in Argentina. In terms of us specifically, removing restrictions will allow for more free flow of capital, cash funds in and out of Argentina, which will be definitely helpful for us.
Ben Isaacson (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Great. Thank you. Just my very last question. I do not usually nitpick at accounting, but I did have one investor just kind of flag a $4.5 million compensation expense in the quarter. Can you just kind of break that down a little bit, and is that something we should expect to see going forward? Thank you.
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
That is related to year-end bonuses as well as some related to the contract changes associated with the migration. I would say that that was almost entirely stock-based compensation. Last year, comparably lower because we granted year-end bonuses later in the year, partially in Q2 and Q3. It is unlikely to continue.
Ben Isaacson (Managing Director of Equity Research)
That makes sense. And then just while I have you, Sam, you said 85% operating rate in April. Where are we right now, and what's a normal operating rate that we're aiming for? Like 95, 100? What should we be thinking about?
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
I think, I mean, the full-year guidance we provided was 30-35. Obviously, that provides kind of a range of what we expect for operating rates going forward. The plant continues to deliver, reflecting the improvements of optimization through where we sit now in May.
Bottom line is you're on track. I mean, that's the key point.
We're very much on track.
Ben Isaacson (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Okay. Perfect. That's all for me. Thanks so much.
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Thanks, Ben.
Operator (participant)
Your next question comes from the line of David Deckelbaum with TD Cowen. Your line is open.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Sorry. I did want to just ask if you can give a little bit more on DLE installation plans. The construction you talked about, the pilot facility is going as expected. What should we expect on, or how do you think about that installation?
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Sorry. Break it up a bit, David.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Sorry. Hopefully, you can hear me, but I'm just curious if you've looked at.
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Sorry. I'm not sure if it's just on our side. You were breaking up a bit.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Sorry. Can you guys hear me?
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Yep. Yep.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
All right. Sorry. I'll give this another shot. Can you talk about how the DLE circuit will impact your production once installed and how you see the ramp of that pilot?
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
In terms of its overall impact to our total production, it will be consuming stock from the pre-concentration ponds. It is going to be delivering, expected to deliver, a higher recovery, but do not model it as an incremental 5,000 tons on top of 40. It may be able to deliver a small proportionate amount of additional production, but really, it is to demonstrate the effectiveness in order to use in future growth plans, both at Cauchari as well as in Pozuelos, Pastos Grandes. The second question was related to—sorry, maybe you can remind me.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Yeah. Maybe just following up to that. So then if we're thinking about the 5,000 tons capacity, you expect it to be fully utilized? And then do you expect the offsetting impact on cost with that as being introduced into the flow sheet as being offset with the benefit on price?
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
I mean, we plan to commission it and run it at full capacity. I think the intention is to do that in a fairly short period of time. Ganfeng has a lot of experience operating a similar FX module in China. The expectation is commissioning will not take very long, a matter of a few months, is what Ganfeng has guided to. The cost savings will obviously be important to validate on the DLE demonstration plant. It'll be five of a total of 40 or so total production. The overall kind of cost improvements will be minor overall, but the real intention is to demonstrate this technology, demonstrate the cost advantages in order to apply this new process and technology to our future growth plans in Argentina.
David Deckelbaum (Managing Director and Senior Analyst)
Appreciate it. Sorry about the connection.
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Yeah. No worries. Thanks, Dave.
Operator (participant)
Your next question comes from the line of Shannon Gill with Cormark. Your line is open.
Shannon Gill (Research Analyst)
Thanks very much. Sam, I just wanted to know, outside of the plant shutdowns in Q1, why did sales volumes drop 24% quarter-over-quarter? Was there a buildup in inventory over 2024 that was sold out in Q4? I'm referencing that 9,400 ton sales in Q4 versus the—yeah. Can you speak to that one?
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
I think sales just followed production into Q1. There was no buildup in finished product inventory. We have no issues selling the product. The demand pull-through has been very strong from Ganfeng. I am not sure what you are seeing, Alex. Do you have anything to add there?
Alex Shulga (VP and CFO)
Yeah. No, I think our sales were approximately the same as production, 7,200 in Q1. I think you mentioned Q4 we had sales a little bit higher because, yeah, back in 2024, we did have a little bit of buildup, which was sold in Q4, if that was your question.
Shannon Gill (Research Analyst)
Yes. Yeah. Sorry about that. It was 9,400 ton sales in Q4 versus the 8,500 tons in production. Appreciate the color, Alex.
Alex Shulga (VP and CFO)
Yep. No worries.
Shannon Gill (Research Analyst)
That's it.
Sam Pigott (President, CEO, and Executive Director)
Thanks, Shannon.
Operator (participant)
Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.