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Leslie's, Inc. (LESL)·Q1 2025 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q1 FY25 delivered sales at the top end of guidance ($175.2M, +0.7% YoY) and the first positive comp in two years (+0.2%), but profitability was pressured by inventory adjustments and fixed-cost deleverage; Adjusted EBITDA of $(29.3)M landed at the low end of the prior guide, and Adjusted EPS of $(0.22) was modestly below the Q1 guide range.
  • Mix and margin dynamics: gross margin fell 180 bps YoY to 27.2% on inventory optimization adjustments (~95 bps) and occupancy/DC deleverage (~75 bps). Management expects margin improvement in 2H from rebate timing tailwinds and lower transformational costs.
  • Strategic execution advanced: in-stock levels improved >300 bps; “Never-Outs” precision inventory and 26 Local Fulfillment Centers (LFCs) rolled out ahead of pool season; Pro growth accelerated (+9% YoY), while core chemicals grew ~4% on positive unit volumes.
  • Outlook reinstated: Q2 FY25 and FY25 guidance introduced (Sales: Q2 $179–$189M; FY $1.304–$1.370B; FY Adj. EBITDA: $96–$116M; FY Adj. EPS: $(0.01)–$0.07). Prior guidance was not provided for Q2/FY; comparisons are vs new baselines. Potential stock catalysts: execution of LFC/Pro initiatives into peak season and visible gross margin inflection in 2H as timing headwinds flip to tailwinds.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

  • What Went Well

    • First comp gain in two years (+0.2%); sales at top-end of Q1 guide ($175.2M). CEO: “We met our revenue expectations…reporting our first comparable store sales gain in two years.”
    • Pro momentum and core chemistry strength: Pro +9% YoY (transaction-led), core chemicals +~4% with positive units; in-stocks improved >300 bps supporting conversion (+160 bps).
    • Strategic initiatives: precision inventory (“Never-Outs”), 26 LFCs to tighten availability and asset utilization; mobile app upgrades (voice search, faster load, loyalty barcode) to build DIY omnichannel loyalty.
  • What Went Wrong

    • Margin pressure: gross margin −180 bps YoY to 27.2% on higher inventory adjustments (~95 bps) and occupancy/DC deleverage (~75 bps).
    • Earnings below Q1 EPS guide: Adjusted EBITDA at low end and Adjusted EPS $(0.22) vs guided $(0.21)–$(0.20), reflecting transformational costs (inventory adjustments, professional fees).
    • Traffic still a watch item: DIY traffic remains the opportunity; management cited the need for marketing activation into pool season to drive traffic despite better conversion.

Financial Results

MetricQ3 2024Q4 2024Q1 2025
Sales ($M)$569.6 $397.9 $175.2
Gross Profit ($M)$228.8 $143.2 $47.7
Gross Margin %40.2% 36.0% 27.2%
Operating Income (Loss) ($M)$97.7 $26.4 $(39.7)
Adjusted EBITDA ($M)$109.5 $43.0 $(29.3)
Diluted EPS ($)$0.33 $(0.05) $(0.24)
Adjusted Diluted EPS ($)$0.34 $0.02 $(0.22)

Consensus vs Actuals (Q1 FY25)

  • Revenue Consensus Mean: N/A*; Primary EPS Consensus Mean: N/A* (S&P Global consensus unavailable due to request limits; see disclaimer)

Segment/Consumer Group YoY growth

Segment/CategoryQ3 2024 YoYQ4 2024 YoYQ1 2025 YoY
Pro Pool Sales−2% −1% +9%
Residential Pool Sales−8% −10% −1%
Residential Hot Tub Sales−4% −5% −5%

Key KPIs

KPIQ3 2024Q4 2024Q1 2025
Comparable Sales %−7.0% −8.3% +0.2%
Traffic TrendDown ~5% Traffic-driven comp decline (no % disclosed) Flat (vs down mid-single digits in Q4)
Conversion Change+160 bps
In-Stock Improvement>300 bps
Inventory ($M, end-period)$302.2 $234.3 $271.1
Funded Debt ($M)$783.7 $783.7 $796.7
Revolver Outstanding ($M)$0 $0 $40.0
Effective Term Loan Rate8.2% 8.1% (FY) 7.6% (Q1)

Notes:

  • Q1 gross margin rate decline: ~95 bps from inventory adjustments; ~75 bps from occupancy/DC deleverage.
  • Q1 cash from operations: $(105.1)M (seasonal build); Capex $4.7M.

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
SalesQ2 FY25N/A$179–$189M Initiated
Gross ProfitQ2 FY25N/A$44–$48M Initiated
Adjusted EBITDAQ2 FY25N/A$(38)–$(33)M Initiated
Adjusted Diluted EPSQ2 FY25N/A$(0.25)–$(0.23) Initiated
Diluted Shares (M)Q2 FY25N/A185 Initiated
SalesFY25N/A$1.304–$1.370B Initiated
Gross ProfitFY25N/A$473–$505M Initiated
Adjusted EBITDAFY25N/A$96–$116M Initiated
Adjusted Diluted EPSFY25N/A$(0.01)–$0.07 Initiated
Diluted Shares (M)FY25N/A185 Initiated
CapexFY25N/A$35–$40M (CFO, call) Initiated

Context vs prior quarter guide:

  • Q1 FY25 guidance (given in Nov-2024) was Sales $169–$176M; Adj. EBITDA $(29)–$(27)M; Adj. EPS $(0.21)–$(0.20). Actual Q1: Sales at top-end ($175.2M), Adj. EBITDA near low end (−$29.3M), Adj. EPS slightly below (−$0.22).

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q3 2024)Previous Mentions (Q4 2024)Current Period (Q1 2025)Trend
Inventory optimization / in-stocksInventory down 31%; sequential margin improvements as DC costs/inventory adjustments eased. Introduced “Never-Outs” precision inventory as a core theme. In-stocks +300 bps; precision inventory + LFCs to support availability. Improving
Pro strategyPRO −2% YoY; 4,254 PRO partners; 108 PRO locations. PRO resilient; PRO partners +14% to 4,400; pricing sharpened. PRO +9% YoY; shift to serve Pros across full 1,000-store footprint. Improving
Core chemicalsVolume positive in June; down 1% for Q3. Industry pricing stable; looking to normalize margins. Core chemicals +~4% with positive units. Improving
Discretionary/equipmentEquipment −15%; discretionary −10%; unit volumes at 2019 levels. Softness in larger-ticket categories persisted. Equipment down ~4% YoY, stabilizing vs Q4; traffic still key. Stabilizing
Technology/omnichannelAccuBlue Home gaining traction; >$1,000/year per member. Emphasis on omnichannel fundamentals. Mobile app upgrades (voice search, faster load, loyalty barcode); DIY loyalty focus. Improving
Macro/tariffsWeather and cautious consumer pressured demand. Dynamic environment; cautious consumer. Minimal direct tariff exposure (domestically sourced chemicals). Stable
Outlook & guidanceFY24 outlook reaffirmed. Only Q1 FY25 guide provided. Introduced Q2 and FY25 guidance with 2H margin tailwinds. Improving visibility

Management Commentary

  • “We met our revenue expectations…reporting our first comparable store sales gain in two years…profitability…impacted by…inventory adjustments and professional fees to facilitate our transformation journey.” — CEO Jason McDonell.
  • “We are establishing Local Fulfillment Centers…enhancing 12 commercial service centers and 14 stores…to be LFCs…not adding new locations…little capital expenditure required.”
  • “We have shifted our mindset from our previously defined 100-plus Pro stores to now leveraging our entire 1,000-store footprint to serve Pros.”
  • “Our latest update on our mobile app has…new voice search…recommendation engine…easier access to Pool Perks rewards…and…technology upgrades to…reduce load times.”
  • CFO: “Adjusted EBITDA [was] a loss of $29 million…due to higher occupancy cost, payroll and benefits, and…higher transformational cost that included inventory adjustments and professional fees.”

Q&A Highlights

  • In-stocks and LFCs: In-stocks improved ~300 bps; LFCs already helping prevent lost sales and will backstop ~20 stores each, enabling lower store-level depth on high-ticket items and better working capital.
  • Gross margin cadence: Q1/Q2 pressured by rebate timing, DC costs, and more frequent inventory adjustments; tailwinds expected in 2H as rebates flip and DC costs normalize; FY gross margin +~70 bps YoY at midpoint.
  • Pro growth drivers: Predominantly transactions; focus on availability, assortment (Never-Out Pro SKUs), competitive pricing, and hours of operation; initiative impact expected to skew to Q3–Q4.
  • Tariffs/wages: Minimal direct tariff exposure (domestically sourced chemicals); wage growth embedded at mid-single digits or slightly below.
  • Capital allocation/store base: Priority remains debt reduction; capex guided to $35–$40M; continuous portfolio review (no closures announced).

Estimates Context

  • We attempted to retrieve S&P Global consensus for Q1 FY25 (revenue and EPS) and forward periods but hit the provider’s daily request limit; as a result, we cannot determine beats/misses vs consensus at this time. We benchmarked results vs company guidance instead. [GetEstimates error]
  • S&P Global disclaimer: Consensus values were unavailable due to provider limits; we will update once accessible.*

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Q1 showed early demand stabilization: first positive comp in two years and sales at top-end of guide, aided by Pro strength and core chemical units; however, gross margin headwinds persisted from inventory optimization and fixed-cost deleverage.
  • Margin setup skews to 2H: rebate timing, DC cost normalization, and lower transformational costs are expected to lift 2H margins; watch Q2 margin mix as the “trough” before sequential improvement.
  • Execution levers into pool season: LFC rollout and “Never-Outs” should improve availability and conversion, while mobile app/DIY loyalty enhancements aim to address the traffic opportunity.
  • Pro is the growth engine: broadening Pro service across the full fleet (not just labeled Pro stores) and transaction-led growth (+9% YoY) suggests scope for sustained share gains in the segment.
  • Balance sheet: inventory remains substantially lower YoY (−18.8%), revolver draw of $40M reflects seasonal build; debt paydown remains the #1 capital allocation priority.
  • FY25 guidance reinstatement restores visibility: Sales $1.304–$1.370B, Adj. EBITDA $96–$116M, Adj. EPS $(0.01)–$0.07; delivery hinges on seasonal 2H volumes and successful operational execution.
  • Near-term trading setup: stock likely sensitive to Q2 margin cadence and any early-season read-throughs (traffic, Pro transactions, chemicals units); medium-term thesis rests on durable availability gains (LFCs), Pro penetration, and margin recapture as transformation costs fade.

* S&P Global consensus values were unavailable at time of writing due to provider rate limits. We will refresh when access is restored.