Lineage - Earnings Call - Q1 2025
April 30, 2025
Executive Summary
- Q1 2025 delivered mixed results: revenue declined 2.7% YoY to $1.292B and Adjusted EBITDA fell 7.0% to $304M with margin down 110bps to 23.5%, while AFFO rose 48% to $219M and AFFO/share increased 6% to $0.86.
- Versus S&P Global consensus, revenue missed ($1.292B vs $1.339B*) while EPS beat (Company GAAP diluted EPS $0.01 vs consensus -$0.099*), aided by cost control and lower taxes; management cited tariff-driven customer hesitancy and normalizing seasonality as near-term headwinds (values retrieved from S&P Global).
- Guidance maintained: FY25 Adjusted EBITDA $1.35–$1.40B and AFFO/share $3.40–$3.60; modeling changes include higher interest expense (+$10M midpoint) and lower current tax expense (-$10M midpoint) due to acquisitions and international tax dynamics.
- Strategic catalyst: “landmark” Tyson Foods agreements (4-asset acquisition for $247M and two automated greenfields, ~$1B total deployment) expected to add $100M+ stabilized annual EBITDA and ~$25M FY25 Adjusted EBITDA; integration and greenfield ramps are paced through 2027/2028 and represent medium-term compounding growth drivers.
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- AFFO strength and dividend continuity: AFFO rose 48% to $219M; AFFO/share increased 6% to $0.86; quarterly dividend declared at $0.5275 (annualized $2.11) supporting cash returns.
- Strategic M&A momentum: Tyson agreements and acquisition of three Bellingham campuses ($121M on April 1) underpin external growth; Tyson is expected to contribute ~$100M+ stabilized annual EBITDA; FY25 guidance already includes ~$25M Adjusted EBITDA and ~$0.05 AFFO/share contribution from announced acquisitions.
- Productivity and technology execution: Same-warehouse cost of operations declined 1.6% YoY; pilots of proprietary LinOS showed double-digit productivity gains across conventional buildings, with broader rollout planned for next year; “LinOS and Lean initiatives are offsetting cost increases”.
Management quotes:
- “We’re proud to partner with our valued customer on these landmark agreements... leveraging our global footprint, data-driven approach, LinOS, and automation technology.” — Greg Lehmkuhl, CEO.
- “Our team continues to control costs well and improve productivity... Our network is intentionally built with flexibility in mind.” — Greg Lehmkuhl.
What Went Wrong
- Top-line and margin pressure: Total revenue fell 2.7% YoY to $1.292B; Adjusted EBITDA dropped 7.0% YoY to $304M; margin contracted 110bps to 23.5% due to lower revenue per pallet and tariffs-driven customer hesitancy.
- Same-warehouse NOI declined 7.9% YoY to $337M as economic and physical occupancy fell (82.1% and 76.5%, respectively), with revenue per pallet metrics down low-single digits.
- Pricing/mix headwinds: Customers reset minimum volume guarantees lower (to ~42% of rent/storage/blast freezing revenues) and new-business wins came at lower rates to keep physical occupancy high; this weighed on revenue per occupied and throughput pallets.
Analyst concerns:
- Visibility on tariff impacts and occupancy cadence remains limited; management expects Q2 YoY declines similar to Q1 and recovery in H2 on normal seasonality and easier comps, but withheld precise same-store guidance due to uncertainty.
Transcript
Evan Barbosa (VP of Investor Relations)
Thank you. Welcome to Lineage's discussion of its first quarter 2025 financial results. Joining me today are Greg Lehmkuhl, Lineage's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Rob Crisci, Lineage's Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings presentation, which includes supplemental financial information, can be found on our investor relations website at ir.onelineage.com. Following management's prepared remarks, we'll be happy to take your questions. Turning to slide two, before we start, I would like to remind everyone that our comments today will include forward-looking statements under federal securities laws.
These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, as described in our filings with the SEC. These risks could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by our comments. Forward-looking statements in the earnings release that we issue today, along with the comments on this call, are made only as of today and will not be updated as actual events unfold. In addition, reference will be made to certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Information regarding our use of these measures and the reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures can be found in the press release that was issued this morning. Unless otherwise noted, reported figures are rounded, and comparisons of the first quarter of 2025 are to the first quarter of 2024. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Greg.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Thanks, Evan, and thanks everyone for joining us today. Today is a very exciting day for Lineage as we announce landmark agreements with our valued customer, Tyson Foods. In total, we expect to deploy approximately $1 billion of capital in the coming years on the acquisition and new greenfield developments that, once stabilized, will generate over $100 million in annual EBITDA. The scale of these agreements on their own by cubic feet would be the size of a top 10 global cold storage company. First, we announced a definitive agreement to acquire and take over operations of four Tyson Foods cold storage warehouses for $247 million. These warehouses total approximately 49 million cubic feet with 160,000 pallet positions and are located in Pottsville, Pennsylvania, Olathe, Kansas, Rochelle, Illinois, and Tolleson, Arizona.
Second, at or prior to closing the acquisition agreement, Lineage will enter into an additional multi-year warehousing agreement to design, build, and operate two next-generation fully automated cold storage warehouses in major U.S. distribution markets, which Tyson Foods will occupy as an anchor customer. They will add 80 million cubic feet and 260,000 pallet positions into our portfolio. We expect to deploy over $740 million on these two greenfield developments, with an expected yield of 9%-11% once stabilized.
Under this warehouse agreement, Tyson Foods will also begin storing product at our newly developed next-generation fully automated Hazleton facility as an anchor customer. The acquisitions are expected to close in the second quarter, subject to customary closing conditions. We look forward to welcoming over 1,000 existing Tyson Foods employees into the Lineage family and executing our proven integration process.
We expect to break ground on the greenfield developments in the second half of this year. As the new build warehouses open, targeted for late 2027 and 2028, the four existing acquired warehouses will transition into public multi-client facilities. Our leading global facility network and world-class automation expertise, combined with our proprietary data science capabilities, aligns really well with Tyson Foods' objective to enable a faster, smarter, and more integrated supply chain to meet the demands of an increasingly dynamic, evolving, and growing market. These landmark agreements showcase the multiple ways we can uniquely add value for our customers, and we look forward to future opportunities to help them build resilient and more responsive supply chains.
Turning to our first quarter highlights on slide four, our first quarter results reflect normal seasonality against the elevated inventory levels we saw in the first half of 2024, as discussed in our last earnings call. Our total revenue was down 3%, adjusted to keep it at down 7%. Same store warehouse NOI down 7.9%, and we delivered 6% AFFO per share growth. Right now, winning in the marketplace does come with trade-offs. Despite the inventory reset, our same store physical occupancy remains strong at 76.5%. However, the quarter was impacted by lower revenue per throughput and occupied pallet, primarily driven by new business wins at lower rates and customers resetting volume guarantees at lower levels given lower industry occupancy.
However, our team continues to control cost and improve productivity in an environment where food companies are balancing the challenges of high interest rates, shifting consumer sentiment, and significant macroeconomic uncertainty compounded by evolving tariff policies. In response, many customers are pausing their supply chain investments and maintaining lean inventory levels. They are acutely focused on increasing their sales volumes while working hard to lower their operating expenses. Accordingly, we are partnering with our customers to leverage our global scale and expertise to help them optimize their supply chains and navigate through this challenging period. All in, we are maintaining our previous guidance and expect to deliver adjusted EBITDA and AFFO per share growth for the full year, as well as return to same store warehouse growth in the second half.
We are excited to report continued progress on our LinOS pilots at our conventional buildings, which continue to exceed our expectations. As a reminder, LinOS is our proprietary warehouse execution system that we've already implemented in multiple automated facilities. The software uses patented and proprietary algorithms that are a result of many years of development. 2025 is about testing and proving out these gains in a variety of facility profiles in advance of a broader rollout starting next year. I'm personally really excited about LinOS. This technology is one example of the innovative and bold thinking at the core of Lineage. I'm thrilled to see what a great complement it is to our lean methodologies that we've been implementing over the last decade. These methodologies and our productivity initiatives are expected to offset labor inflation and lower our cost structure.
We are realizing some of those benefits now as our same warehouse cost of operations declined 2% in the quarter despite an inflationary environment. We expect LinOS will supercharge those efforts in the future and create meaningful cost advantages versus our competition. Finally, we continue to execute on our robust pipeline of development and M&A opportunities, including the Tyson Foods agreements, which I've already talked about, the acquisition of three warehouse campuses from Bellingham Cold Storage for $121 million, adding to our existing portfolio in the Pacific Northwest, and $67 million in development spend in the quarter,
including completing a semi-automated expansion at our Vaerle, Denmark facility ahead of schedule and breaking ground on our automated expansion project at our Bergen op Zoom facility in the Netherlands, which, once completed, will be the largest cold store in Europe.Finally, I'd like to give a shout-out to our finance and accounting team for enhancing our quarterly close process, resulting in us speaking to you today a week earlier than our last 10Q in the fall. Their hard work echoes across the organization, and I would like to sincerely thank all of our global team members for their contributions during the first quarter. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to our CFO, Rob Crisci.
Rob Crisci (CFO)
Thanks, Greg. Good morning, everyone. Starting on slide five and looking at our financial results for the first quarter, our total revenue was $1.29 billion, down 3%. Our adjusted EBITDA decreased 7% to $304 million, with adjusted EBITDA margin down 110 basis points to 23.5%. Our AFFO for the quarter was up 48% to $219 million, and AFFO per share was $0.86, a 6% increase versus prior year, aided by lower-than-expected tax expense and the timing of our annual maintenance capex spend. Next slide. Shifting to our global warehousing segment, we have the four-year view on this slide that does a good job of pointing to the multi-year trends we talked about in February. Inventory levels were elevated the last couple of years, helping drive 22% same warehouse NOI growth in the first quarter two years ago.
The excess inventory appears to have stabilized, but we are now seeing more typical seasonality as revenue declines sequentially from the fourth quarter, representative of a more normal pattern. Average revenue per pallet has been challenged for the reasons Greg mentioned. We've been controlling costs well through sustainable labor productivity improvements, even before realizing future benefits around our LinOS technology. Turning to the outlook for the remainder of the year, we continue to expect normal seasonality with the second half outpacing the first half. However, since our February call, the macroeconomic uncertainty, driven largely by the U.S. tariff announcements, has created some hesitancy among our customer base in the short term. Notably, about 50% of our U.S. throughput volume is directly tied to import-export. Some of our customers are in a wait-and-see mode, making it difficult to predict near-term activity.
We expect year-to-year declines in Q2, similar to Q1, as comps remain challenging in Q2, which, by the way, is typically the lowest quarter of the year from a seasonal perspective. We anticipate growth to return in the second half, driven by normal seasonal increases and easier comps. However, given the macro uncertainty, it's difficult to predict the level at which we will grow in the second half. Past supply chain disruptions sometimes boost customer inventory levels, but it's too early to tell with confidence what's going to happen. We will have more visibility and will be better able to quantify growth as tariff policies stabilize, and we look forward to updating you next quarter. Turning to slide seven and covering our global integrated solution segment, segment revenue was down 3% to $348 million. NOI was down 3% to $57 million, with NOI margin flat at 16.4%.
As expected, we saw new business that we won in the second half of 2024 starting to come online in the first quarter. We see strength in this segment as our transportation and other value-added services are increasingly sought after by our customers. For 2025, we expect strong momentum to continue with sequential growth throughout the year. Easier comps later in the year should help drive strong double-digit growth in the second half. Turning to slide eight, we ended the quarter with net debt of $6.7 billion. Total liquidity at the end of the quarter stood at $1.7 billion, including cash and revolving credit facility capacity. Our leverage ratio, defined as net debt to adjusted EBITDA, was 5.2 at the end of the quarter. Our strong balance sheet, available cash, and debt capacity continue to offer us flexibility to take advantage of attractive capital deployment opportunities moving forward.
Our landmark agreements with Tyson Foods are a great example, and we look forward to continuing to take advantage of our attractive pipeline of accretive opportunities. Turning to slide nine, we are maintaining our 2025 guidance with our adjusted EBITDA range in millions of $1,350-$1,400 and AFFO per share of $3.40-$3.60. Our guidance includes contributions from our recently announced acquisitions of approximately $25 million of adjusted EBITDA and $0.05 of AFFO per share for the balance of the year. However, we believe it's appropriate to maintain previous guidance to account for the near-term uncertainty we are seeing in the core business as our customers remain tentative given evolving tariff policies. We continue to be well-positioned for growth in the second half of the year.
As a compounder, it's nice to have some strategic capital deployment to help fill the gap created by some of this near-term uncertainty. Importantly, the Tyson Foods agreements help increase our base and position us well for incremental growth in 2026 and beyond, both from the acquisitions and down the road from the greenfield developments. Lastly, we've included some additional modeling support on this page. Most assumptions remain unchanged, with the exception of higher interest due to the new capital deployment and lower tax expense related to some of our international operations. With that, I'll turn it back over to Greg to wrap up before turning it over to your questions.
Thanks, Rob. I'll conclude on slide 10. Our achievements this quarter demonstrate our strength and ability to create value through strong customer relationships. The landmark agreements with Tyson Foods, representing approximately $1 billion in total capital deployment, will significantly enhance our platform and add to our global leadership position. Our acquisition of three warehouse campuses from Bellingham Cold Storage has strengthened our presence in a key market, while our Vaerle and Bergen op Zoom expansions showcase customer-led growth across our global markets.
Lineage's competitive advantages continue to differentiate us in the market. We remain committed to growing these advantages through our technology-first approach, exemplified by our progress on LinOS. Looking ahead, we see significant opportunities for growth with a robust pipeline of strategic acquisitions and greenfield development opportunities. As I reflect on the challenges in our environment today, I'm heartened that at its core, Lineage is a business that is built to weather the storm. We have the largest platform, driving significant network effects, the best assets, are industry leaders in technology, automation, and data science, and are the most diversified geographically and across our more than 13,000 customers.
We provide the most comprehensive set of services with our global integrated solution segment. We are leaders in lean operational excellence, and we believe we remain the acquirer of choice in the industry, demonstrated again by today's announced landmark agreements with Tyson Foods. We have the balance sheet and attractive cost of capital to take advantage of market opportunities through strategic M&A and capital deployment.
Because of these structural and distinct advantages as the industry leader, I'm confident that we are well-positioned to win and to deliver long-term compounding growth to create shareholder value. Lastly, I want to thank our over 26,000 team members around the world for the great work they do to safely serve our customers every single day. With that, I'll open it up to questions. Operator?
Operator (participant)
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. If you would like to withdraw your question, simply press Star 1 again. If you are called upon to ask your question and are listening by a loudspeaker on your device, please pick up your handset and ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking your question. In the interest of time and to ensure we address as many questions as possible, today we will limit questions to one and one follow-up, and lines will be muted after this. Thank you for your understanding. Your first question comes from the line of Caitlin Burrows of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Caitlin Burrows (VP of Equity Research)
Hi, good morning, everyone. Maybe you mentioned in the prepared remarks that 50% of throughput is directly tied to the import-export business. Is the other 50% consumption, or can you go through that? I think we've just been surprised on how volatile the food business can be. Can you give some more color on how that food imports-exports business is able to be so volatile and similar for consumption? Like how does economic uncertainty impact customer inventory and throughput? I guess that's a lot, but hopefully it all ties together well.
Rob Crisci (CFO)
Sure. Hey, Caitlin, good morning. Just to clarify, so it's 15%, one five, correct?
Caitlin Burrows (VP of Equity Research)
Oh, okay. I heard 50, so thank you.
Rob Crisci (CFO)
Yeah, yeah. No, no worries. Now turn it over to Greg.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah, I think that while the tariffs have created significant uncertainty in the short term, the consumption really hasn't changed. It really hasn't impacted overall occupancy too much at this point. There's certainly, again, some short-term uncertainty given the tariffs that our customers are not making major supply chain decisions in large part because of the tariffs. I don't think it's driving substantial volatility so far yet.
Caitlin Burrows (VP of Equity Research)
Got it. Maybe just if you could realize 15 is a different scale than 50, but on that import-export business, is it just that certain foods then are being consumed less today than they would have been previously, or how does that actually end up happening and impacting you?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I have met with 20 customers literally just in the last few weeks. I think the biggest single impact is customers are delaying major decisions, and it is just creating hesitancy. Our customers are just waiting for more clarity before they make major decisions like where to expand operations, where to build plants, where to source long-term transportation, whether that be domestically to ports or internationally in the forwarding space, or where to shift position and build inventories. The kind of rapid changing of tariff policies has caused some, call it short-term disruption. For example, our customers have rerouted inventory that has been in flight on the way to destinations like China. For example, Alaskan seafood, which generally comes to the Pacific Northwest after being processed in China, that was headed to China for processing, has either come back to the U.S.
for processing or been rerouted to other Southeast Asian countries like India or Vietnam for processing. In the protein space, we've seen certain proteins, we've seen the export levels come down. Importantly, when you talk about volatility, even though some export levels have come down in specific proteins, the production and manufacturing levels have actually remained very steady. The end consumption has remained steady, and just a little bit more of that production is being routed to the U.S. versus overseas. I think out of 20 customers, literally only one beef producer in Australia that I met with a couple of weeks ago was not worried about the U.S. tariffs because he said the U.S. has such a beef shortage because the herd is so small right now. He basically said, no matter what our price is to export to the U.S., Americans are going to eat cheeseburgers.
He was not worried. Everybody else had said tariff was at the top of their list.
Caitlin Burrows (VP of Equity Research)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Yeah, the question from Brenda n Lynch at Barclays. Your line is open.
Brendan Lynch (Director of Equity Research)
Great. Thanks for taking my question. On the assets that you're acquiring from Tyson, can you talk about where they are in the supply chain and what their level of commitment to you is over the long term for those specific assets?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I'll just say it's a long-term agreement, a multi-year agreement. We can't disclose specific attributes of the actual agreements themselves. The assets that we're acquiring are a mix between production and distribution.
Brendan Lynch (Director of Equity Research)
Very good. Thank you.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
More slanted toward the distribution side, though.
Brendan Lynch (Director of Equity Research)
Great. Thanks.
Evan Barbosa (VP of Investor Relations)
Your next question is from the line of Samir Khanal from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Samir Khanal (Director of Equity Research)
Good morning, everybody. Greg, I guess just maybe talk around occupancy, right? I mean, occupancy was down as we would have thought, maybe a little bit even more. How to think about the cadence of occupancy as we go through the year? I know you talked about recovery in the second half. Any color on that would be helpful.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah, yeah, certainly. We talked at length last quarter about how there was a multi-year inventory stopping that concluded in the third quarter of last year. Since then, we reported last quarter that we'd seen more normal seasonality. That holds true through this quarter. We are seeing normal seasonality despite the tariff uncertainty. What that means is we were elevated in the first half of last year, and the first half comp this year is very challenging. We would expect to see normal seasonality in the second half, which would give us elevated levels from last year versus right now.
Samir Khanal (Director of Equity Research)
I guess as a follow-up to that, I mean, what gives you the confidence of that sort of return back to seasonality? I know the comps get easier in the second half, but you kind of highlighted the delays in decision-making by customers. I guess what are you seeing in changes to that customer behavior to kind of give you that confidence given the uncertainty? Thanks.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah, great question. Our data science team studied the last almost 10 years of our data for what we call core inventory holdings. These are customers where we neither won new business nor lost any business and built that up from the SKU level in the actual facilities. From that, we derived what we consider normal seasonality across our global network. That historical pattern of normal seasonality, kind of how inventories change month to month, resumed in the third quarter of last year. That stayed consistent with that historical trend through the first quarter of this year. Of course, things could change. We're not trying to predict the future. We're just saying that so far, our data shows that normal seasonality has returned and the inventory destocking concluded in the third quarter of last year.
Samir Khanal (Director of Equity Research)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Yeah, the question from Michael Carroll at RBC. Your line is open.
Michael Carroll (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Yeah, thanks. Greg, can you provide some more color on your storage and service rental rates? I know both look like they're down a decent amount year over year and sequentially. I guess what's driving this weakness is Lineage cutting rates to win market share, or is there a mix shift? I guess what's going on with those numbers?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah, great question. Let me just kind of provide quite a bit of color on what we're seeing in the industry right now in response to your question. There are a few things going on at the same time here. First of all, inventory occupancy has declined because of the destocking I just reviewed. Again, normal seasonality has resumed, but we'll have tough comps in the first half of this year. In the first quarter of this year, the inventory levels of core holdings are down. In the first quarter of this year, our customers have reset volume guarantees at a lower level to match their inventory needs. Certainly, over the last couple of years, some new capacity has come online in select markets. In this challenging environment, we've been focused on keeping our physical inventory high.
I mentioned on the last earnings call that we are willing to trade volume for price strategically when it makes sense for the long-term health of the business. Our sales team has actually done a great job managing the situation by winning a lot of new business, which has largely offset the core holdings decline that we just talked about. I think that's illustrated by, in a declining environment, our physical inventory is only down 1%. As you suggest, part of the trade-off to win some of that new business has been to work strategically with the customers on price.
Now, all that said, while there is pressure and uncertainty in the short term and the marketplace definitely remains competitive, we believe that we've returned to, again, normal inventory holdings and seasonal patterns, even without some kind of inventory rebound, which we're not counting or guiding to. The year-over-year pricing headwinds that you're seeing in our numbers will wane as the year progresses. As the year progresses, as customers have largely reset their volume guarantees now, that happens majority in the first quarter, and inventory levels have stabilized. When we look forward, as Rob talked about in his prepared remarks, we see a similar environment in the second quarter to the first quarter and a return to same-store growth in the second half. We're not providing an exact same-store growth figure for the second half only because of the macro uncertainty.
There's a number of things in the short term that could impact us by a few points in either direction. We're confident in the midterm that we're going to be fine just because of the scale and diversification of our network.
Michael Carroll (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Okay. With the minimum resets, stores numbers coming down, impacting that rent number, is that all kind of already in the numbers in Q1? I believe you kind of highlighted that. We should think about that kind of at a good level today, not any incremental weakness, and could build back up over time, maybe in line with inflation?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I think in a general assumption, yeah, I think that's very fair. I mean, I think that makes sense. We were just there's uncertainty, right, around all the stuff we talked about. We just want to be super careful because we learn more every day. We think we'll have a really good year and a really nice second half. We're challenged to quantify for all the reasons we talked about. Yeah, I think in large part that kind of price or volume guarantee reset has happened in the first quarter. That will cascade through the year. We would expect to get normal price increases and not have guarantees drop a bunch again next year because we're at very lean inventory levels throughout the industry and the destocking's concluded.
Michael Carroll (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Okay. Great. Thank you.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Of course.
Operator (participant)
Your next question comes from the line of Michael Mueller of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Michael Mueller (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Yeah. Hi. I guess first, can you talk about some examples of where you're seeing customer pauses? Are you seeing it more with producers, or is it more from retailers? Just some color on that would be great.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
I would say it's more for producers than retailers as the consumption in the U.S. isn't changing. It's more about kind of outside of Tyson making structural changes, contracting with forwarders for certain international lanes for a year and locking down price when there's so much volatility because the producers on the export side or import side don't know exactly where they'll be sourcing certain products or where they'll be shipping certain products. What we know is that food flows like water around the world, and people are going to eat everywhere. No matter what happens, we think we'll be well-positioned in the meeting.
Michael Mueller (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Got it. Okay. I guess second question, how do acquisition and development required returns change when you're dealing with kind of somewhat of an anchor customer or tenant as opposed to just normal course one-off activity?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
I would say all the deals that we announced today are in line with our historical expectations. We love the customer. We think we're going to be able to help a ton with our technology and automation. We think we can really partner with them and streamline their supply chain even more. The deals are agreed to us in line with past deals. Yeah. I mean, Tyson is very much a win-win for both parties. I mean, we worked really closely over many, many months on these agreements. We very much want our customer to do well, and we think we'll do well. It's a wonderful thing.
Michael Mueller (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Got it. Okay. Thanks.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Craig Mailman from Citi. Please go ahead.
Craig Mailman (Director and Equity Research Analyst)
Hey, good morning, guys. Just wanted to follow up on kind of the changing assumptions here. I mean, if it hadn't been for the Tyson Foods deal, you essentially would have lowered guidance here by 5 cents. I mean, what's the biggest pressure point as you guys reevaluated kind of the risk of tariffs? Is it further erosion in occupancy, rate, margins? Kind of what worried you the most from a visibility perspective?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
I think it's just the unknown and the uncertainty of the tariffs. I mean, again, we're all over the world. We can support consumption in all the major markets in which we operate. But our customers are telling us they're not sure what they're going to do. They don't know where they're going to build inventories. They don't know how they're going to direct trade flows. That could have a short-term disruption, even though we're very confident we'll support their needs in the medium and long term. Given that uncertainty, given 19 of the 20 clients I met with said, "We don't know what's going to happen with our supply chain," we think it's prudent to reinforce our overall guidance with the acquisition, new cash flows, but not try to get specific when none of our customers know exactly what's going to happen in the next quarter.
As I said in the prepared remarks, there's also an upside opportunity here too, right, which is also difficult to predict. Normally, more inventory tends to get to the system anytime you have disruption. We've seen that many times over history. Brexit, COVID. Yeah. Brexit, COVID, etc. I just think, again, it's just hard to predict. As Greg mentioned, I mean, we're going to be within a range, but it could go a few points one way or the other. We really want to see more, and we'll update everyone as we see things here into the next quarter and second half of the year. I mean, there's been supply chain disruptions in the past, like port strikes, like COVID, like Brexit. This is unprecedented. I mean, no one knows what's going to happen with global trade flow.
I think we just feel thankful that we're not in consumer electronics or auto parts that can be handicapped in the medium and long term from these changes. We're in food, and people are going to eat, and we're all over the world and diversified. We think we're super well-positioned versus most companies in the long term. In the short term, there could be a little volatility.
Craig Mailman (Director and Equity Research Analyst)
Okay. And then just on the volume kind of resets here with customers and sort of the lower price points, I mean, how much of that is happening with renewal agreements versus pricing pressure trying to poach clients from competitors to bring in kind of new deals?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
I would say on the volume guarantees, what's happening with the volume guarantees is we're actually, our sales team's doing a great job of getting new volume guarantees. We have record new business despite the soft environment. The new business has more than 42% volume guarantees. However, the existing customers, the kind of core holdings that we had volume guarantees with going into the first quarter, they've lowered those guarantees, and that puts pressure on our revenue per occupied and through blip talent.
While we love collecting revenue from customers, we actually don't think customers paying significantly more, paying for significantly more space than they're using, is beneficial in the long run. We like a relatively low gap between physical and economic for that reason. We think too big a gap is kind of a ticking time bomb, frankly. We've worked through that, and it'll be more stable going forward.
Operator (participant)
Your next question comes from the line of Alexander Goldfarb of Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Alexander Goldfarb (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Hey, good morning out there. Two questions. First, if we look at the non-same-store pool, that seems to be where you guys are experiencing a much bigger occupancy drop. Just want to get a little bit more color. That's my first question.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I mean, that's really related to the Kennewick fire from last year. Yeah. It's basically that's the big part of it in the first quarter.
Alexander Goldfarb (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Forty-two properties where that occupancy drop was just 15% drop was all driven by one property?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. There's also Big Bear. There's a couple where we had incidents, right, with the fires. That's the biggest driver. I mean, Kennewick was one of our largest facilities. That's a relatively small non-same-store place. It was totally full. Yeah. It was totally full. Yeah. I think that's the big driver, Alex.
Alexander Goldfarb (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Okay. The second question is, for the past few quarters, we've been talking about this normalization of inventory levels. Obviously, you guys have a lot of experience in the business, but it does seem that each quarter, it seems to be the next quarter. Just curious, as you look at the normalization of inventory levels and the stable consumption that you guys see in the food business, is there something different about this cycle versus your 15-plus years in the business that seems to be taking longer for inventories to normalize? I mean, COVID was a few years ago, presumably.
The destocking occurred a few years ago, and the tenant should have been back, especially pre-April 2nd. Just sort of curious why it seems to just be taking a little bit longer than what we initially spoke about. I think it was back on your initial earnings call.
Rob Crisci (CFO)
Yeah. Yeah. I'll start to turn it over to Greg. We actually, from an occupancy level, were pretty much right what we expected for the first quarter. I mean, we saw normal seasonality, as we talked about. We saw the core holdings stabilize after the second quarter of last year. Actually, yeah, from the occupancy standpoint, we are directly in line. Rate was a tiny bit worse, as Greg talked about. That really was the driver. We were actually pretty close to our internal models on Q1, so consistent with what we had told people. I'll turn it over to Greg for a moment.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
I would just reiterate what you said. We said very clearly last quarter, we thought normal occupancy and seasonal patterns resumed in the third quarter. That remains true today and is reflected in our numbers. As Rob said, the occupancy was right where we frankly hoped it would be in the first quarter.
Alexander Goldfarb (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Blaine Heck of Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Blaine Heck (Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
All right. Great. Thanks. Just a few with respect to the agreement with Tyson. Can you talk about the age and condition of the four properties that you acquired, whether they might need any redevelopment or repositioning as Tyson moves from those properties into Hazleton and eventually the two new developments, and then also what the yield is on the assets that are being acquired, if you could share that?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Let's start with the, yeah. I think we talked about 9-11% on the development. In terms of the EBITDA contributions on these acquisitions, we're low double-digit EBITDA multiple on the acquisitions we announced this quarter. Yeah. We did do, of course, complete due diligence, and Tyson was totally open book on the condition of the assets. They're generally in very good condition. Any CapEx that we would need to put in is certainly figured into the overall deal and returns.
Blaine Heck (Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Okay. Great. That's helpful. Then second question, can you talk about how we should think about the sources of funding past the cash that you guys hold on the balance sheet for the total spend on the acquisition and development agreement, and maybe how you think about additional capacity or dry powder for investments, kind of incorporating this deal, the Bellingham acquisition with the additional spend on development underway, and potentially any debt paydowns that you might be considering?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. Sure. I think this is all in line with our normal operating cadence where we spend money using our revolver. We still have a ton of capacity. We're a solid investment-grade company. We have the opportunity to do public bonds here moving forward, which is something we'll certainly look at. As we grow the business and we generate more EBITDA, we get more capacity, we generate more cash, and you get the flywheel that we talked about. We still have capacity now. We're going to be very thoughtful in this market. Again, we're always going to be patient, and we'll manage this investment-grade balance sheet and continue to grow the business.
Blaine Heck (Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Great. Thanks, guys.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Nick Thillman of Baird. Please go ahead.
Nick Thillman (Senior Research Analyst)
Hey, good morning, guys. Maybe I wanted to touch some on the variable costs within the business and the labor in particular. I guess, what are you guys seeing on the labor front when it comes to wages? Is wage pressure kind of have abated at this point? What are you guys kind of doing on the staffing levels with volume expected to be a little bit lower on the import-export? I guess, how are you adjusting to this type of environment?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I'll start. Yes, the labor productivity is still a great story for us that we talked about. I think we showed our same-store warehousing costs down in the quarter. That's driving, helping us, and it's all about labor productivity and lean and the things we've been doing forever. I'm sure we'll talk about LinOS and the opportunity there. Yeah, no, it's a good story. I think we continue to have a lot of positives here that are helping us. Yeah. I would say certainly the labor front is stable, and we're seeing wage increases of about 3.5% a year, which is in line with history.
Blaine Heck (Executive Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
That's helpful. Maybe just following up on an earlier question, of the $25 million of EBITDA, are you able to break that down between Tyson and the Bellingham acquisition?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
No. I don't want to get into the details on that. As we know, the acquisition together, like I said, we're low double-digit EBITDA. She can kind of back into it.
Nick Thillman (Senior Research Analyst)
Great. Thanks.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Omotayo Okusanya from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Omotayo Okusanya (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Hi. Yes. Good morning, everyone. I was hoping you could dive a little deeper into guidance. It is unchanged. You're gaining $0.05 from all the acquisition activity. Could you just talk a little bit about all the other moving parts, whether it is, okay, we're now expecting slightly worse by X amount on operations, but we're picking up this amount from better costs, just to kind of get a general sense of how guidance still kind of ends up being flat, but understanding some of the moving parts a little bit better?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah, for sure. It's really about all the uncertainty that we talked about earlier. There are a lot of moving parts. We have a lot of levers to pull. We feel very confident in these guidance ranges that we gave you on adjusted EBITDA, AFFO, per share. There are a lot of different ways to get there. We'll continue to execute throughout the year to make sure we deliver these results or better. There's just a lot of moving pieces, right? I mean, it's tough to quantify everything because you can't predict the future.
We feel really good about these ranges, and we're aided by the acquisitions, and we'll execute well the rest of the year. We're certainly building in substantial productivity improvements continuing through the year, actually accelerating through the year. I think the price, the pressure that we saw in the first quarter will continue throughout the year, and that's all baked into our assumptions.
Omotayo Okusanya (Managing Director of Equity Research)
That's helpful. In fact, I'd ask a quick second question. Could you talk about the business in terms of how domestic is performing relative to your international operations? Is one generally feeling better than the other? Is there more risk in one or the other? Just kind of curious how that's shaping up.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I think the price pressure that we saw with the volume guarantees resetting was kind of a U.S. phenomenon. Both our Asia-Pacific business and our European business is actually performing very well and I believe has accelerating performance. While GIS, our GIS segment, was down year over year, we're still guiding to 5-10% EBITDA growth of that segment, and we feel good about that.
Omotayo Okusanya (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Ronald Kamdem of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Ronald Kamdem (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Hey, Greg. Just two quick ones. Starting with sort of same-store and why, I know the previous guidance, obviously, of 2-5% constant currency. The presentation says 2Q should be sort of down as much as 1Q, if I'm understanding that correctly. Just trying to think about the cadence of what's baked into the second half of the year. Obviously, we're not putting an exact number on it, but how are you guys thinking about that down and recovering the second half of the year?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I think, as we said, we're confident in growth in the second half of the year for all the things we talked about, the easier comps, the seasonality. I think that we're not sure how much it's going to grow. That's why we're being careful on giving ranges. That's where we'll continue to give you more information as we see it. That's really the, as Greg mentioned, that's kind of the point. Yeah. Those are the key points.
Ronald Kamdem (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Great. My second question is just a little bit more color on what you're hearing from tenants and sort of their level of inventory sort of post-tariff and so forth. Are there any sort of sectors, whether it's food, seafood, protein? Is there any one or other that's better or worse positioned than any other sort of post-tariff announcement? Thanks so much.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I would say there's wait and see on whether to change any inventory positioning or level of holdings. Our seafood business, we talked about that a lot last year. That's stabilized, and I think we're kind of at a normal consumption level in seafood. We're seeing that we're seeing those inventories down from the peak of COVID, but there's no longer downward pressure in that segment of our business.
Ronald Kamdem (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Great. Thanks so much.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Steve Sakwa of Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
Steve Sakwa (Senior Managing Director of Equity Rersearch)
Yeah. Thanks. Good morning. I don't know if you guys saw there was a major article about the Chinese that had canceled the major, I guess, pork order from the U.S., obviously, given the tariff situation. I'm just curious how that sort of transaction ripples back through the system here in the U.S. Could things like that, in some cases, put upward pressure on occupancy? How do you sort of think about that in light of the comments, Greg, you sort of made about customer uncertainty with kind of the import-export business?
Rob Crisci (CFO)
Yeah. It's a really great question. Absolutely, that could happen. I mean, all the uncertainty that we have and the reason we're not giving a same-store exact number for the second half isn't all downside. There's a lot of things that could happen here that could buoy our occupancy and results. That's one of them. I mean, China is a very large trading partner with the US in the food space. We've spoken with our team, a number of commodity experts. I think, importantly, though, while China is a large partner, they've been using non-tariff trade barriers for a number of years. This really isn't a new issue. While it's pronounced and it could have a bigger impact than past issues, it's not a new thing for our customers to deal with.
I mean, for example, China was not renewing export licenses for a number of US protein locations that compete with their domestic producers all of last year. Our customers have been dealing with that. Customers and producers are already working to redirect their exports to different countries. That is exactly what they'll do if the tariffs remain, if China's protectionist policies continue or the tariffs get larger. I mean, like we said, food flows like water around the world. If it's not exported to China, it'll be exported somewhere else, or it'll be pointed to the domestic market here in the US. Yes, there is upside, as you point out.
Steve Sakwa (Senior Managing Director of Equity Rersearch)
Okay. Thanks. Maybe just—sorry. Did you want to say something else?
Rob Crisci (CFO)
Nope. I'm good. Proceed.
Steve Sakwa (Senior Managing Director of Equity Rersearch)
Okay. Just second question. Just, I guess, as you think about capital deployment and this Tyson's deal, does the economic uncertainty maybe create more opportunities for you guys as customers look to kind of shed costs and streamline their business? How are you thinking about those deals and maybe the return hurdles in light of kind of where your stock has traded since the IPO and uncertainty in the bond market? Are you raising your investment hurdles, and do you think this can create more opportunity?
Rob Crisci (CFO)
We think it could. We're always looking at risk-adjusted return, and our cost of capital is a key component of that calculation that we talk about every week in our capital deployment call. Certainly, if tariffs impact the global supply chain, customers will shift their either production or distribution channels. We are in those rooms with those executive staffs helping them decide and execute on any major supply chain changes. Tyson is one that was obviously born well before these tariff policy changes. As things change, we tend to get even more valuable with our customers.
Steve Sakwa (Senior Managing Director of Equity Rersearch)
Great. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Ki Bin Kim from Truist. Please go ahead.
Ki Bin Kim (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Thank you. Good morning. Going back to that Tyson's deal, I mean, ultimately, what was the value proposition for Tyson's? Was it just cost savings or LinOS or just more sustainable operations? Just curious overall. Thank you.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. All the above. I mean, lower cost, best technology, best automation, serving their dynamic customers better, positioning their inventory in the optimal locations. These guys are really smart about how they plan their future supply chain. We were able to work with them for a full year on what that future supply chain should look like. We also provide them with a lot of flexibility, given that they're an anchor customer in these buildings and can flex inventory if needed to a certain extent. That kind of future-proofs their supply chain. LinOS was certainly a piece of this and will be running in these automated buildings, and we will convert to LinOS in the buildings that we're purchasing from them. I'll just give a quick LinOS update while we're on the topic. Our pilots continue to go extremely well.
We're seeing double-digit productivity improvements in these buildings. As we mentioned, this is a year of just proving it out, and then we'll roll it out more broadly over the next couple of years. We're increasingly excited about how this technology can transform our operations. We're seeing very real benefit not only in direct labor, but also in indirect labor, in benefits, in energy, in safety, even in employee turnover and training expense. We even think this will lower our maintenance expense and CapEx as we'll use our facilities more efficiently. Over time, we think this will meaningfully lower our cost structure and create an even deeper moat between us and our competition and improve the already outstanding service we provide to our customers. We're highly encouraged, and this technology was a component of the deal with Tyson.
Ki Bin Kim (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Great. Thank you. On the trade uncertainties, one of the things the administration has talked about is not just tariffs, but perhaps improving the balance of trade through exports, especially agricultural exports. I'm not sure if you and the food producers have had much dialogue with the administration, but any kind of insights you can share what this potential could be and how real does it feel like, or will it be like all soybeans and not touch the cold storage warehouse? Thank you.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I think it could impact us. To try to predict how and why and where and which commodities, yes, I've met with 20 customers in the last just several weeks. There's so much uncertainty, I think it would be unwise for me to try to predict what's going to happen at this time, but more next quarter.
Ki Bin Kim (Managing Director and Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Michael Goldsmith of UBS. Please go ahead.
Michael Goldsmith (Equity Research Analyst)
Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. How much room do you think your current tenants have within their current commitments to utilize before they would need to take on more space?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
It varies. My customer, by region, by commodity. Yeah. I think where we are from an occupancy standpoint, there's a ton of room that we have to sell to customers. That's actually a really nice opportunity moving forward, right, with all the things we've done from a productivity standpoint, getting our costs at a really good level here, having the space to sell, having a market that is going to bounce back at some point gives us a ton of opportunity to drive really strong operating leverage moving forward. Yeah. I think because the volume guarantees were just reset here in the first quarter, customers, they have an appropriate amount of space reserved for what they see in their business.
If there's any inventory inflection, if there's any increase in consumer sentiment that leads to an uptick in sales and volumes, that's all upside for us, and incremental margins are extremely strong. We're kind of at a bottom in inventories right now, and any stimulus to rebuild or reposition just helps us.
Michael Goldsmith (Equity Research Analyst)
Got it. Just to follow up on supply, how much supply delivered over the last year is yet to be absorbed? Also, how much supply is set to be delivered in 2025 that is unleashed within the industry?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. Yeah. Great question. Certainly, there's been new supply into the market over the last several years. That new capacity peaked in 2023 with about 4% in the US, incremental power positions. That came down by about 50% in 2024 and again, similarly, this year. About 2% new power positions added in the US in 2024 and 2025. That new supply is expected to be cut in half again based on what's been announced so far and what we know is happening in 2026. In 2026, the new power positions added in the US will kind of be back to historical pre-COVID levels. I think it's important to mention that that capacity that's been added over the last several years has been built at the highest cost to build ever. The cost of capital has obviously increased.
It is hard for these smaller players to succeed at anything below kind of market prices. We expect some of these businesses to underperform and some to fail. We are definitely seeing evidence of that in the marketplace. We expect those dislocations to create opportunities for us to either grow organically or through acquisition. I think compared to these new entrants, we have such distinct competitive advantages. We have scale that creates network effects. We have world-class and leading automation. We have proprietary technology. Even before the LinOS launch, we have 13,000 customer relationships, and we have global farm-to-fork service offerings. We have a really deep moat.
I mean, for example, I'd argue that if you think about this new capacity or new companies that have entered our space, I think we're the only one capable of successfully signing and executing a deal to the scale of the Tyson Foods agreements.
Michael Goldsmith (Equity Research Analyst)
Thank you very much.
Operator (participant)
Your next question is from the line of Todd Thomas of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Todd Thomas (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Hi. Thanks. Good morning. First question. I just wanted to follow up on the minimum volume guarantees, which decreased 200 basis points sequentially to the 42% level. That decrease occurred before the tariff announcements. I realize there's uncertainty around how inventory levels will trend in the near term with the uncertainty around trade flows and inventory. In terms of those changes, I just wanted to clarify if that was predominantly a first-quarter reset of sorts or whether you do expect that process to be ongoing throughout the year and whether or not the percent of fixed commits might fall further, perhaps below 40%.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
It is largely a first-quarter phenomenon. The majority of them get reset in the first quarter. Again, they're reset at lower levels. While the existing customer volume guarantees came down a little bit, the new business we're selling has more than 42% average volume guarantees. We would expect, and I don't think tariffs would have an impact on this. If anything, to Steve's point earlier, if there is any stockpiling of inventory or things are having to be held or rediverted or diverted back to the U.S. that are on the water, that could lead to people needing even more space and potentially come kind of out of cycle and ask for increase in volume guarantees. We'll see what happens. Again, a lot of uncertainty. Directly, to answer your question, it is a majority first-quarter phenomenon.
Todd Thomas (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Okay. Then separate question on the Tyson's transaction. With regard to the existing facilities that will be transitioned to public warehouses, will those warehouses experience a decrease in occupancy in 2027 or 2028 during that transition? How will that handoff happen? I am just curious whether or not we should expect how those operations should sort of trend during that transition period if they need to sort of fill up and if they will be sort of operating in a way like lease-up or development assets during that period.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I mean, we can't get into all the details of the agreement, but there's a very smooth transition. Like anything else, it becomes a public warehouse. There could certainly be a bit of a J curve as you're filling up the new warehouse in a couple of years. There is a structured transaction around this. Yeah. That would certainly. Yeah. The answer is yes. There will be an occupancy decline when they depart, and we will build it back up into a public facility. All of that was certainly built in, contemplated as we entered the agreements with Tyson Foods.
Operator (participant)
Your next question comes from the line of Vikram Malhotra from Mizuho. Please go ahead.
Vikram Malhotra (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Morning. Thanks for the question. Just going back to the guide, I get it's very difficult to pinpoint where SameStore warehouse or even with Global Solutions and how IGROW is going to go. Just trying to understand high level to keep the guide intact, you must have baked something in. Or said another way, if tariffs were to go away tomorrow, would you still be hitting your original guide, or is there some other offset? To maintain the guide, what are the other components that you're cutting, assuming kind of the SameStore comes in well below your original expectation?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. It's real hard to predict what would happen if tariffs went away tomorrow. Yeah. I think if you just do the simple math, right, and you look at our guide and you look at the $25 million that we're planning to get, you're losing $25 million somewhere else, right? That gets you more to the low end of our initial SameStore guide if you're going to go back to that. There is a ton of volatility. There's upside, downside. We're very confident in the levers that we can pull on cost and everything else. We are committed here to deliver these ranges, barring any sort of other economic thing that were to happen. Our job here will be to do even better than that.
Vikram Malhotra (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Got it. I guess just talked a lot about opportunities on the external growth side. Obviously, Tyson's a solid deal. Wondering, just given kind of how the stock's performed and obviously the embedded value, what about considering a big buyback or even just other ways to kind of highlight value?
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
Yeah. I think the board and the management team will always do whatever we think is in the best interest of the shareholders. We'll always evaluate all things that we could potentially do to drive shareholder value over the long term. I mean, we're really focused here, as you know, on compounding growth and driving long-term shareholder value. I think that's what we do.
Vikram Malhotra (Managing Director of Equity Research)
Okay. Just wondering if I can clarify how much of this, I guess, the challenge SameStore, you've got a big global portfolio, the scale, etc. Are you able to share any industry stats to kind of show how maybe the Lineage portfolio is outperforming even in this environment? What's happened to economic occupancy changes across your peers or just the overall growth? Any stats you can share that would highlight Lineage still outperforming fundamentally? Thanks.
Greg Lehmkuhl (President and CEO)
There's not really publicly. Our industry is a very fragmented industry. It's not transparent, even in the U.S., much less in the international markets. I think we're getting that from the intel of our 250 salespeople around the world that are acutely aware of the capacity or occupancy of their competitors in their markets. I personally visited with teams across 10 markets around the world, actually more like 12 this year, and met with our teams. They are very in tune with what's going on in the market and what customers are going where and what the capacity is at our competitors' buildings. Based on that, based on that intel, we think we're performing very well from a physical occupancy standpoint.
Operator (participant)
Ladies and gentlemen, due to the constraints of time, we do need to conclude our Q&A session for today. I would like to turn the call back over to Evan Barbosa for closing remarks.
Evan Barbosa (VP of Investor Relations)
On behalf of the entire Lineage team, thank you for joining us today and for your interest in Lineage. We look forward to speaking with you again on our next quarterly call. Thanks, everybody.
Operator (participant)
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect.