Dorian LPG - Earnings Call - Q3 2020
February 5, 2020
Transcript
Speaker 0
Greetings, and welcome to the Dorian LPG Third Quarter twenty twenty Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Additionally, a live audio webcast of today's conference call is available on Dorian LPG's website, which is www.dorianlpg.com.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Ted Young, Chief Financial Officer. Thank you, Mr. Young. Please go ahead.
Speaker 1
Thank you, Michelle, and good morning, everyone. Thanks to everyone for joining us for our third quarter twenty twenty results conference call. With me today are John Hajibateras, Chairman, President and CEO of Dorian LPG Limited and John Lecouris, Chief Executive of Dorian LPG USA. As a reminder, this conference call webcast and a replay of this call will be available through 02/12/2020. Many of our remarks today contain forward looking statements based on current expectations.
These statements may often be identified with words such as expect, anticipate, believe or similar indications of future expectations. Although we believe that such forward looking statements are reasonable, we cannot assure you that any forward looking statements will prove to be correct. These forward looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties and other factors as well as general economic conditions. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize or should underlying assumptions or estimates prove to be incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those we express today. Additionally, let me refer you to our unaudited results for the period ended December 3139, that were filed this morning on Form 10 Q.
In addition, please refer to our previous filings on Forms 10 ks and 10 Q, where you'll find risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward looking statements. With that, I'll turn over the call to John Hajibateras.
Speaker 2
Good morning, and thank you for joining our third quarter earnings call. Today, I'm happy to have announced that based upon its assessment that this is the best use of our excess cash at this time, our Board of Directors has doubled the stock repurchase authority to 100,000,000 Funded by strong cash flow, the increased authorization allows us to capitalize upon the disconnect between the intrinsic value of the company and our stock market valuation. Since the original authorization last August, we have repurchased 1,397,662 shares at an average price of $12.337 Management and the Board continue to evaluate other options of enhancing shareholder value, including paying dividends, prepaying debt and acquisitions. Ted will be giving you the detailed breakdown of our TCE and utilization numbers shortly. It is important to note that on a traditional definition, freight and higher less voyage costs over available days, The Helios TCE per available day was $50,141 per day, including earnings from several time charters which were booked at the 2018 and in early twenty nineteen at sub 30,000 per day levels, most of which expire as we speak.
Our scrubber retrofriction program added some logistical complexity. Positioning of ships can result in certain inefficiencies such as waiting time, suboptimal rates, and additional bunker cost. When considering the effects of these challenges and the TCE achieved in the HELIOS pool, we consider our chartering performance quite solid. In addition to our own fleet, we have, since April, had a ship on type charter at an attractive rate. And as announced in our earnings release,
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we took delivery this week of a new building, all Panamax type, fitted with a hybrid scrubber.
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As Global seaborne LPG trade continues to grow, increasing by 14% in 2019 to a record of 109,000,000 metric tons. While The U. S. And Middle East exported roughly the same amount in 2019, it appears that annual U. S.
Export volumes will surpass The Middle East for the first time in 2020. Already during the last three quarters of calendar twenty nineteen, The U. S. Exported 500,000 metric tons and five VLGC liftings on average more per month than The Middle East. Our outlook for the coming calendar year remains optimistic.
The coronavirus is, of course, a potential headwind. IMO twenty twenty has strengthened the market position of Doran's fleet. Increased bunker prices have enhanced the value proposition of our young and fuel efficient ECO ships. As the cost differential between high sulfur and low sulfur fuel continues, we remain competitively positioned with seven scrubber equipped ships at present. And in the coming months, more than half our fleet, 12 ships total, will be scrubber equipped.
Ted, over to you.
Speaker 1
Thanks. My comments today will focus on our unaudited third quarter results and our remaining drydockings. For the discussion of our third quarter results, you also may find it useful to refer to the investor highlights slides posted this morning on our website. Beginning with our chartering results, we achieved a total utilization of 98.4% for the quarter with a daily TCE, which is TCE revenue over operating days as defined in our filings of $43,410 yielding utilization adjusted TCE or TCE per available day of about $42,728 Our spot TCE, which reflects our portion of the net profits of the Helios pool per available day for the quarter was $43,949 I'd like to point out that the results are net of the administrative cost of the pool and the time charters in of five ships at floating Baltic rates. And the result, as John already mentioned, our actual TCE achieved in the pool is higher than this level.
To just elaborate on the difference between the 44,755 per day that I just mentioned pardon me. The 43,009 and 49 that I just mentioned, and the 51,141 that John mentioned, the 50 oneone 141 is the average rate achieved in our pool, and that is the one that is most comparable and analogous to what our competitors report and indeed the Baltic benchmark. Turning to OpEx. Our daily OpEx for the quarter was $8,413 excluding amounts expensed for dry dockings. It was $9,452 including those costs.
OpEx per day, excluding the dry docking related costs, was roughly flat compared to last quarter's $8,403 per day, again, which also excluded a limited amount of drydocking costs. Total G and A for the quarter was $5,000,000 and cash G and A, which is G and A excluding noncash compensation expense, was about 4,400,000.0 This level is generally consistent with our expectations. Our reported adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $59,900,000 which is a significant increase from the $35,000,000 excluding costs related to the unsolicited BW LPG proposal recorded during the same quarter last fiscal year. The strong rate environment and lower G and A accounted for most of the improvement. We look at cash interest expense on our debt as the sum of the line items of interest expense, excluding deferred financing fees and loan expenses and realized gainloss on derivatives.
On that basis, total cash interest expense for the quarter was $7,400,000 which was down about $200,000 from the prior quarter, largely due to continued debt paydown. We continue to benefit from our hedging policy and the favorable pricing of our Japanese financings, leaving us with a current interest cost fixed, hedged and a small floating piece of about 4.3%. For the quarter, we had cash outlays for capital costs associated with drydockings of approximately $10,200,000 or $4,835 per fleet day. Fleet day is calendar days plus time charter in days as those terms are used in our filings. Combined with amounts expensed during the quarter, our total drydocking cash outlay was roughly $12,200,000 We also managed to repurchase $8,600,000 of stock during the quarter and an additional $2,300,000 since the end of
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the quarter. In total, we
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have now repurchased $17,100,000 equal to about 1,400,000.0 shares, which was nearly 2.5% of the shares outstanding prior to the announcement of the buyback. Our cash flow and liquidity remains strong. Since quarter end through to 02/03/2020, our restricted and unrestricted cash is up to around $106,000,000 Although we hold an 80 plus percent economic interest in Helios, we do consolidate its balance sheet accounts, which has the effect of understating our cash and working capital. Thus, we believe it is useful to provide some additional detail in order to give a more complete picture. As of Monday, February 3, the pool had roughly $30,000,000 of cash on hand.
John Lakulis will comment in a bit more detail about our drydocking plans, but delays in China, coronavirus related and other have extended our drydocking program for the remaining five ships. We now expect to have our program completed by early May, and the remaining cash outlays are estimated at $18,500,000 over the next three quarters. That is the quarter ending March 31 and the subsequent two, with up to $12,000,000 incurred or outlaid in the quarter ending March 31. Given the uncertainties caused by the coronavirus outbreak, there could be some movement in
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this schedule. Upon completion of
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the program, 12 to 23 vessels in our fleet will be able to profit from the expected fuel price differential between VLSFO and low sulfur fuel oil. Since the beginning of the year, the TCE per day premium for scrubber equipped VLGCs has ranged from $10,000 to $20,000 per day, which supports our investment thesis in the scrubbers. With a solid market backdrop and a strong balance sheet, we maintain a constructive view on our business and expect to continue to be able to generate solid cash on cash return for our shareholders. With that, I'll pass it over to John Lecouris.
Speaker 2
Thank you, Ted.
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The U. S. NGL export growth is expected to continue in 2020 with a series of export capacity additions. Enterprise, Targa and Energy Transfer terminals are all planning expansions starting in late twenty nineteen and continuing into late twenty twenty, early twenty twenty one. These NGL infrastructure developments are expected to ease the operating terminal limits we have seen during 2019 with export and fractionation capacity able to meet the increasing supply of products to 2021 and beyond.
During the last quarter, we saw 194 VLGC liftings from The U. S. And October has set a new record. It was actually 70 liftings in October. Most likely the completion of the Enterprise Products terminal expansion of the Ship Channel contributed to that record as did six VLGC liftings of about 300,000 metric tons from The U.
S. To India. The U. S. Propane inventories remain at the higher end of their five year range at 82,900,000 barrels last week, 37.8% higher than same time last year.
As the global LPG supplies continue to grow, we can expect more downward pressure on global prices, which will encourage LPG cracking over naphtha for the Northwest Europe and Far East petrochemical industries. The arbitrage between The Middle East propane and butane benchmark pricing for February versus the Mont Belvieu spot stands at about $300 per metric ton and $213 per metric ton respectively. This arbitrage is exacerbated by The U. S.-China tariff dispute, which has resulted in significant cargo swapping in Northeast Asia, maintaining China LPG prices at a premium. Perhaps the Phase one trade deal recently signed between U.
S. And China will change trade for all the NGL products in the coming months as they are all included in the list of products which China has committed to import from The United States. In such a case, are likely to see LPG prices return to normal levels and Chinese LPG prices set closer to the Far East Index. According to Clarksons, the VLGC fleet order book stands currently at about 15% or about 42 vessels with 40 vessels in the fleet over 20 years of age. We expect the increased compliance and operating costs will drive older, less efficient vessels to demolition.
Dorian LPG currently operates seven scrubber fitted vessels, as John mentioned, of which five were fitted in the last five months within a period of thirty three days, including completion of the special survey dry docking and ballast water treatment installation in two of them. Our hybrid scrubber retrofit program continues with two vessels currently being retrofitted. During my recent visit to the Far East, the issues of congestion and manpower and material shortages were discussed with the shipyards. Now further impacted by the coronavirus epidemic resulting to the voluntary extension of the Chinese New Year spring festival holiday to early next week. One of our vessels, while being retrofitted in China, has been impacted by this extension of the Chinese New Year holidays.
And we we have delayed it has delayed the works completion beyond our expectations. We have three more vessels planned for scrubber retrofit and dry docking in the next few months, which we expect to complete timely subject to the coronavirus. During January 2020, we saw shortages in price volatility in many areas for the new compliant fuels, the very low sulfur fuel oil, resulting in wide price differentials versus the high sulfur fuel oil. All Dorian LPG vessels that were not scrubber fitted transitioned on the average by the December to very low sulfur fuel oil without any issue. We expect pricing differentials between the two fuels to remain around the 200 metric ton per month in the coming year and that our scrubber echo vessels will continue to earn significant time charter equivalent over non scrubber echo and modern VLGC vessels.
Thank you. I will pass
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it over now to John. Thank you, John. Michelle, we can go to questions.
Speaker 0
Thank Our first question comes from the line of Omar Nokta with Clarksons Plateau Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 4
Okay. Yes. Thank you. Hi, guys. Hello, Omar.
Hi. Hi, there. Yes, just wanted maybe just to touch on maybe John Lecouris, your last comments about the vessel that's in the yard in China and how you're expecting to see delays beyond what you had anticipated. Is that sort of like an open ended delay? Or is it more, you know, it's adding a couple weeks to the expected timeframe?
Speaker 3
Omar, as I said, subject to the coronavirus epidemic, we expect that she will finish in the next two weeks. It's still has not recommenced operations and works because this extension has gone onto the February 9. So we expect that completion will happen. However, there has been no work whatsoever for now two weeks.
Speaker 2
Yeah. To give you a picture, Omar, the ship is in kind of lockdown. Right? Nobody can goes on. The crew cannot go off.
There's nobody in the ship yard. And and, and and like John said, February 9, they're supposed to come back to work. Once that once that date comes, we'll know whether what's happening and and how quickly it's gonna happen. I mean, when they work, they work very efficiently. We we haven't had, many complaints with the work that we've been doing in China.
Most of our work so far has been done in Singapore, and there we were very satisfied. But in China, you know, not quite the same, but still moving fine until this the Chinese New Year and the coronavirus on top of it. Okay. So it's
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more like it's a function of both events happening simultaneously?
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Yeah,
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more the second now. Because the Chinese New Year was supposed to have finished already. So we're now the extension has been because of the coronavirus. Okay. And do you think that that
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may be, as you think about the next three scrubber installations, does that maybe cause you to rejigger the time frame on that and maybe just keep the ships trading for a bit longer and then reassessing the scrubber down the line?
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, we we, I don't know. But but but I I don't remember which of them. Are are all three for Chinese yards, John? Do you remember?
Yes. Are they all Chinese yards? Yeah. Well, one of the things we might look at doing is doing them in another non Chinese yard if but it's an open question. Open question.
We weren't we were we rejigged already a little bit the dates, partly because of the trading returns that we could have. So if we see difficulties in the yards coming up continuing and the trading returns are like they are now, we would probably keep the ships trading until we can see an opportunity to have a definitive timeframe for doing the retrofit. Yeah. No. I think, you know, we've been doing we like John said, we our average mean about thirty five days, which I think probably is a good industry.
How many? Thirty three. Less than 33. You know me. No.
That's pretty decent then relative to what we've been hearing. Right. Right. Maybe just switching slight gears, you
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know, still sticking with the yards. And Omar,
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I'm sorry to interrupt you. I have to say that these are hybrid scrubbers, which is a lot more involved
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than
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regular. I'm sorry to interrupt.
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Yes. Okay. I appreciate that. So that's even more impressive, the thirty three days.
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And then just maybe thinking about the fleet capacity, obviously, there hasn't been much ordering. There's been a handful of orders recently. I think Avant was most recently ordered in December, a couple of VLGCs. And John, I remember, if I recall in the last earnings call, you were traveling and I had asked about new buildings and it was a word you didn't like to hear. How do you
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think just with the way
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the market been shaping up and how it's been counter seasonally much stronger than expected? And looking ahead, yes, there's some uncertainty near term with coronavirus and whatnot. But how do you think about the new building market for Dorian as it stands today?
Speaker 2
Tim and I were in Korea recently. Tim Hansen, our Chief Commercial Officer, we were Korea in January. And, you know, I have to say the yards are keen to build. But the interest they're seeing, including from us, is tempered still by the uncertainties. And whatever we've seen ordered has been, except for events, it has been against charter inquiries.
And so I don't see a spec I would like to think there's not going to be a speculative wave of newbuildings. And certainly, we're not going to be doing anything that would be reckless in terms of adding numbers to the fleet. We think the fleet is fairly well balanced. And you know, in our own plans, we could we're not excluding the possibility of doing something. But if it is if we do, it will be the sort of proportions that you would it would not really affect the overall balance of demand and supply.
Speaker 4
Yes, understood. Okay, John, thank you, and thanks, everyone, for the answers.
Speaker 3
Sure. Thanks, Omar. Thanks, Omar.
Speaker 0
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Webber with Webber Research and Advisory. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 6
Hey guys, it's actually Chris on for Mike. How's everyone?
Speaker 3
Hey Chris, good morning.
Speaker 6
Hi Chris. Hey guys. So thank you for all the color and the impact that you're seeing on the coronavirus throughout the market. And I guess I was seeing port calls are down in some other sectors around fifty percent in China and wanted to see the impact it's having on Chinese propane and butane imports For the VLCCs, is it something similar? Are you guys seeing this?
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We haven't actually seen, something that impacts I mean, we have a ship discharging in China as we speak. And we haven't seen anything very significant to say that the the port calls. Yet. But frankly, I'd expect that we would. I'd expect that we would.
I mean, actually, I've got, we've got Tim Hansen on the line. He may he may be able to give you more up to date information on that. But, Tim, do you have anything? No, I don't think I mean, the reason maybe also we haven't seen anything yet is that due to the holidays, the Chinese have basically been reducing imports over the holidays because all the ports will kind of stop working. So we might see once they return after the holidays and import starts again some delays.
But yes, so far, we haven't seen anything.
Speaker 6
All right. Okay. Thanks. And I guess, a follow on to that, is like, have you seen or expect any sort of knock on effects for Chinese PDH plants coming online?
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It was the question is whether we've seen anything new with the PDH plants, delays? Any delays? No. No. No.
No. But it's a good question. I mean, ultimately, that would be another thing that would be affected, depending on Right. How Yeah. I mean, I think we, together with the rest of the world, are looking for a V shaped recovery at some point.
But but, you know, it's it's an unfortunately, it's a play that is still in on stage, and we won't know her. That's good enough
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to make
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play out. Yeah.
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Okay. Yeah. And and I guess, something, like, a little topical, and you guys covered this a bit around the volatility in fuel spread. But I know you guys have done work with LPG as a marine fuel. I wanted to see if you can get any details or updates since the last call.
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Well, we do have we continue our assessment in trying to see if we can bring the participants in a project like that, which would be the engine manufacturer, the engineering company, the shipyard, and all that, to a point where we think the price is more affordable. But so far, we've been making progress. But when we're still our position is still to wait and see how our friends do with the first four ships that they're retrofitting this quarter.
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Thanks, John. Thanks for the color. That's it for me.
Speaker 3
Thanks, Chris. Thank you, Chris.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sean Morgan with Evercore. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 7
Hey, guys. So in light of the disruption you guys are seeing now with coronavirus in China at the yards for the scrubbers, a couple of questions just sort of in that vein. The estimated quarterly cash outlays, is that taking into account that everyone is back to work on February 9? Or should we expect that March cash outlay of 11,000,000 might get pushed back into the following quarter?
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Ted will answer you.
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Yes. Mean at this point, it's based as people going back to work, as John indicated, because that's our best guess when we put it together. Even if it splits a couple of weeks, that shouldn't have a material impact on the timing. As John and John both said, it's still a bit of a wildcard, right? If there's further slowdowns because of the coronavirus outbreak, it can move things around further.
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Okay. And then back in 2018, you guys had talked about an MOU with Hyundai to undertake, examining retrofitting the BLGCs, and that was just touched on. But could that be done in a Korean yard? Or is there a possibility to do that in lieu of, I guess, additional scrubbers if there's really material delays in kind of in light of what you're seeing in terms of the fuel spread between VLSFO and high sulfur fuel oil?
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Well, we had earmarked the ships that would not be fitted with scrubbers to be candidates for the LPG
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modification. So
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I think we're still there. And also regarding where it could be done, yes, it could be done in Korea or in a Chinese shipyard.
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Great. Thanks guys.
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Thanks.
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Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Spai with D. M. Bay. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker 3
Hi, guys. Just touching a
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bit on the three a bit older vessels, the Captions. First on EC, how do you see the earnings differential develop in the last few months and quarters? And then looking a bit further ahead, how do you see strategically these vessels? What options do you see? And would you consider divesting them if you're able to in a strong market for instance?
Speaker 2
Since I don't want to answer that question. We can't, don't at the moment have any ships sort of put aside for sale. I mean the ships are performing very well. And, you know, we're happy to have them in this market. So I think that probably is the best answer I can give you.
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In terms of earnings differential, you see any based on fuel consumption?
Speaker 2
Well, only what you know. I mean, only the ECO ships are more economical. And I think we've given those numbers. The differentials obviously change with the price of the fuel oil. And so on an overall basis, once the prices have gone up, then the ECO ships have the greater advantage to the three captains.
But the captains, you know, we kind of try to schedule them on shorter voyages and do it where the impact of the higher fuel cost would be mitigated.
Speaker 5
Okay. I made that. Thank you so much. That's all for me.
Speaker 3
Thanks, Michael. Thank you.
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Our next question comes from the line of Thomas Korzdahlen with Arctic Securities. Good
Speaker 8
morning, gentlemen. I just had a general question with the reference to the paragraph where you discussed the market and the seasonality. I'm not quite sure the wording here, how I should see this. But when you say that the activity has not yielded expected seasonal results, I read this as it's been better than what you should expect from this quarter. Is this correct?
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Correct.
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Thank you very much. That was all.
Speaker 2
Okay. Thank you. Thanks.
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Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Hejepateras for any closing remarks.
Speaker 2
Thank you, Michelle. Thank you, everyone for joining. And, we look forward to, next quarter and onward and better. Thank you. Bye bye.
Speaker 0
Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have
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a
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wonderful day.