Ramaco Resources - Earnings Call - Q3 2025

Executive Summary

• Q3 2025 was mixed: revenue fell to $121.0M amid weaker met coal indices, but unit cash costs improved to $97/ton, driving a sequential uptick in cash margin/ton to $23; Ramaco posted a net loss of $(13.3)M and Class A diluted EPS of $(0.25).
• Versus S&P Global consensus, EPS modestly beat by ~$0.05 (actual $(0.25) vs. $(0.298)) while revenue missed (~$121.0M actual vs. ~$130.9M); S&P-defined EBITDA (~$3.0M*) was below the ~$5.45M* estimate. Values retrieved from S&P Global.
• Liquidity reached a record $272.4M (cash ~$193.8M + RCF availability ~$78.6M); Ramaco ended the quarter in a net cash position >$77M after raising $200M of equity and refinancing notes.
• Strategic rare earths inflection: management upsized Brook Mine feedstock (base ~5M tons coal ore) targeting ~3,400 t/yr of REE/critical mineral oxides, broke ground on pilot processing, signed a broad NETL CRADA, and engaged Goldman Sachs to structure the Strategic Critical Minerals Terminal (SCMT).
• 2025 guidance was trimmed for production (3.7–3.9Mt) and sales (3.8–4.1Mt), with lower DD&A and tax-rate guidance; SG&A guidance increased due to methodology change to include stock comp; management emphasized refusing to sell tons at a loss and prioritizing REE commercialization.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

• What Went Well

  • Cost execution: cash cost/ton improved to $97 (from $103 in Q2) with cash margin/ton up 15% sequentially to $23 despite a 6% QoQ decline in U.S. met coal indices.
  • Balance sheet: record liquidity of $272.4M and net cash >$77M post $200M equity raise and note refinancing, providing flexibility to avoid loss-making sales and fund REE initiatives.
  • REE/CM momentum: expanded Brook Mine plan (~5M tons coal ore; ~3,400 t/yr oxides), broke ground on pilot facility, signed NETL CRADA, and appointed Goldman Sachs as SCMT structuring agent—building a vertically integrated platform.
  • Quote: “We will avoid selling our production at a loss into a saturated low price market environment.” – Randall Atkins.

• What Went Wrong

  • Soft pricing/volumes: revenue declined to $121.0M (−21% QoQ; −28% YoY) as U.S. met coal indices fell and tons sold declined to 873k (from 1,079k in Q2).
  • Earnings pressure: net loss $(13.3)M; Adjusted EBITDA $8.4M vs. $23.6M YoY; S&P-defined EBITDA tracked below consensus.
  • Guidance trimmed: production/sales ranges reduced due to idling Laurel Fork and weak export spot markets; idle costs raised.
  • Analyst concern: mix-shift to domestic and disciplined spot exposure constrained shipments; Q4 also has holiday downtime (cost impact).

Transcript

Operator (participant)

Good day and welcome to the Ramaco Resources Third Quarter 2025 Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeremy Sussman, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Jeremy Sussman (CFO)

Thank you. On behalf of Ramaco Resources, I'd like to welcome all of you to our Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. With me this morning is Randy Atkins, our Chairman and CEO, Chris Blanchard, our EVP for Mine Planning and Development, and Mike Woloschuk, our EVP for Critical Mineral Operations. Before we start, I'd like to share our normal cautionary statement. Certain items discussed on today's call constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements represent Ramaco's expectations concerning future events. These statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors, many of which are outside of Ramaco's control, which could cause actual results to differ materially from the results discussed in the forward-looking statements.

Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date on which it is made, and except as required by law, Ramaco does not undertake any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. I'd also like to remind you that you can find a reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures that we plan to discuss today in our press release, which can be viewed on our website, www.ramacoresources.com. Lastly, I'd encourage everyone on this call to go onto our website and download today's investor presentation. With that said, let me introduce our Chairman and CEO, Randy Atkins.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Thanks, Jeremy. First, I want to thank everyone for being with us this morning. Again, we've got a lot to unpack today. We had another exceptionally busy quarter on the rare earth front and somewhat of a continuation of last quarter's results on met coal. Since our rare earth transition has grabbed most of the attention, we will start there. Both myself and later Mike Woloschuk, our Head of Critical Minerals, are going to go through a number of updates on various developments since our last call. After our July groundbreaking with Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm, we have moved to rapidly capitalize on this momentum to de-risk our future execution as we move forward on this unique corporate transformation. Here is a short breakdown of where we are headed as we build out this vertically integrated and mine-mouthed Critical Minerals platform.

First, of course, we start with our large deposit. That is what, frankly, provides us all the optionality. We believe we will have the largest upstream production platform in the U.S. for heavy magnetic rare earths, as well as the three critical minerals we possess, which are gallium, germanium, and scandium. On the midstream front, following an optimization at our pilot plant, which is now under construction, we intend to build a large commercial oxide separation and processing facility. It will be large enough to have refining capacity for not only our own coal-based feedstock but also to hopefully process third-party feedstock, should that be an attractive accretive proposition. This is the concept of developing somewhat of a regional or perhaps even national processing hub. We intend to try and keep optionality on the size of the plant, dependent, of course, on market dynamics as we get further along.

Lastly, on our downstream operations, we just announced that we intend to establish a national strategic stockpile and terminal for rare earths and critical minerals at our Brook Mine. We're calling it the Strategic Critical Minerals Terminal. We plan to develop this in collaboration with a leading commodity structuring and financial advisor, who we'll be announcing shortly. We feel that being a significant or even dominant factor in each component of the rare earth supply chain will position Ramaco Resources as the most comprehensive, vertically integrated upstream, midstream, and downstream producer of critical minerals in the United States. In terms of advancing this platform, as you know, in August, we raised $200 million in a common stock placement. We now have a record level of liquidity, and of course, we'll require even more as we move forward.

In September, we announced plans to increase the base size of the Brook Mine by two and a half times to a level of approximately 5 million tons. We would provide increased feedstock for a greater level of annual oxide production of more than 3,400 tons per year. I'd also point out that depending on ultimate market demand, we have the operational and technical capacity, subject to normal approvals, to again upsize this production level to an even higher level of at least 8 million tons of annual coal production. That would then produce, by our estimate, roughly 5,000 tons of oxide production. As detailed in my shareholder letter in September, we're currently estimating that at the 5 million ton coal-based production level, in the first year of commercial oxide production, which we now estimate in 2028, our rare earth platform could generate more than $500 million of EBITDA.

It could also have a projected NPV of more than $5 billion. These are, of course, projections but show the magnitude of the project. I'll note that these estimates, though, were arrived at deploying the same price deck that was used in the summary of Fluor's preliminary economic analysis report in July. Candidly, they were prepared and reviewed by the same person, who is Mike Woloschuk, who, of course, has now joined us along with another senior member from Fluor. Obviously, as we move forward with design, engineering, and optimization, we will refine these numbers along with current market prices and other figures. Since July, given market conditions, we have seen Western offtake deals for substantially higher prices than what was the case in the Fluor report. There is now a clear decoupling of Western price realizations, which were in the past tied to Chinese published prices.

There is going to be a premium for reliable Western supply lines. This is becoming more apparent by the day and is caused by Chinese export restrictions. As you have read, it now appears Trump and President Xi may have kicked the can down for a year on enforcement of China's new REE restrictions. The overhang of Chinese control is not going away. Like it or not, we are in a full long-term mineral war with China. This is especially true for scandium, where the Department of War's Defense Logistics Agency recently signed an offtake to purchase scandium at more than $6.2 million a ton. That pricing is two-thirds higher than the $3.7 million level used in both the Fluor report and my shareholder letter. There are similar upward adjustments across the board for several of the other oxides we will produce.

To focus on scandium for a moment, although Mike will also discuss in more detail later, it is of particular interest given our large future production level. It is called the forgotten rare earth. The U.S. is 100% import reliant on scandium. We have no stockpile, no recycling capability, nor current production capacity. It is used in lightweighting autos and planes, solid oxide fuel cells, semiconductors, 6G wireless for drones, satellite communications, and other defense capabilities. Global production is very scarce, with a small global market of, frankly, under 50 tons per annum. We will produce almost 180 tons per annum. It is estimated that scandium alloys in the auto sector alone would require over 1,000 tons per annum, which is, frankly, not currently available. In line with that, from recent discussions with potential scandium oxide offtakers, we expect almost price-insensitive demand to exceed the Brook Mine's projected annual production.

The mineral, as I said, is critical to lightweighting of cars and planes, as well as technologies used in a variety of military applications. It is just simply not available for these types of uses to make long-term planning for a mineral which is now under complete Chinese control. Its demand growth is exceptionally strong, and as I said, there has been no ability outside of China to develop any meaningful, reliable Western supply. We will be well positioned to provide that meaningful supply in scandium. Looking forward, in order to support the expansion of our rare earth operations, we plan to actively engage with federal and state officials to expand the existing approved Brook Mine permit. It now covers roughly 4,500 acres, and we expect to expand it to ultimately include most of our nearly 6,000 acres of control.

Since our groundbreaking in July, we've now mined about 125,000 tons of coal and material, which, frankly, provides us with enough ore feedstock to operate the pilot plant for a considerable period. We expect to intermittently mine additional coal once we start the pilot operations, as well as mine for possible sale of coal to third-party local utility customers. Chris Blanchard will speak more on our mining in a moment. As far as our midstream operations, our commercial oxide processing facility will be engineered and designed to have the optionality to increase its capacity to accommodate production of higher levels of oxide. As I said, we are doing this not only to accommodate our own increased capacity but also for the possibility that we might want to do some form of third-party merchant processing.

Before advancing to a full-scale commercial plant, we will, of course, work to de-risk this complex execution by the design, testing, and optimization of various separation and refining processes at our pilot plant, which, as I said, is now under construction outside Sheridan. Our goal is to appropriately size, design, and execute on the plant development, focusing on controlling both capital cost as well as future operational expenses of the plant. We broke ground on the pilot last week and expect to begin initial operations in 2026. Mike will be discussing this further in much detail. In the interim, to accelerate the pilot process, the plant components are currently being designed, engineered, and tested on a shakedown basis at a facility in Canada owned by a company called Xeton. Xeton is the world's largest pilot plant design and fabrication company.

Most of this testing will also be coordinated with Hatch Limited, which is also Canadian and is preparing our feasibility analysis. Our commercial processing plant will focus on refining a number of rare earth elements and critical minerals, including, of course, our heavy magnetic rare earth elements like terbium and dysprosium, and critical minerals like gallium, scandium, and germanium. All of these have been banned by China from export to the U.S. In some cases, we will be the sole U.S. producer of these oxides, and in many, we will also be the largest or dominant producer in the country. We are now taking steps to accelerate the engineering and planning for the full commercial oxide facility. We hope to begin the engineering and procurement work on this plant next spring. Our goal is to initiate site work and initial construction on the facility in late 2026 or early 2027.

This would, of course, be subject to normal issues of availability and timing of equipment and related purchasing. Our record liquidity levels, however, should help us be in a position to pre-purchase some of this equipment to help expedite the process and fast-track it as best we can. We appreciate the execution risk associated with any new development. Indeed, the DNA of our whole operation since this company was founded is to build projects from scratch on budget and on time. I would point out that since Ramaco Resources was formed, we have deployed in excess of $500 million in capital on greenfield development projects. We have already hired both in-house and externally an exceedingly talented and experienced group of professionals to help guide our execution in this area. We will be hiring many more as we move forward.

We will continue to refine the project size and design, as I said, to bring the project in with the greatest levels of cost control we can develop, both on the CapEx spend as well as on the future operating costs. Given the importance of this project, frankly, to our country, we will have a lot of help. We will continue to work with our long-time partners at the Department of Energy's national labs to deploy some very novel science and technology to achieve, hopefully, some important technical results. Of course, as we have always said, we will only move forward with actual construction of the full commercial facility once we have a sufficient level of long-term offtake contracts in place. On that front, we are very encouraged with procurement discussions that we continue to have.

I would point out that since the Chinese embargo and export controls were announced, there has been a market decoupling away from China. As we get feedback from counterparties, there will probably not be a future point where any customer in the West is going to feel comfortable with China as a reliable long-term supplier. This has direct implications for us, both in terms of customer demand as well as long-term pricing. Going forward, historic prices quoted from China will now be dramatically different than prices from a reliable Western supplier, which is what we intend to be. Also, as I mentioned last week, we announced that our board had approved creating the U.S.'s first and currently only Strategic Critical Minerals Terminal and Stockpile at the Brook Mine. For Ramaco Resources, this operation will create a fee-based terminal services business.

This is going to leverage not only our own production but our existing logistical and infrastructure advantages of being located on our own vertically integrated Brook Mine site. We anticipate no commodity price exposure on the terminal and will receive predictable revenue streams. For our customers, the terminal will provide a secure, auditable storage of strategic rare earths without capital outlay or operational burden. The terminal will have a rapid deployment capability and provide domestic supply chain resilience. Our strategic advisor will assist in the development and execution of offtake agreements with both private and public customers, as well as on the development of the financial contracting and operational implementation of the terminal. We will be speaking more about this as our plans progress. Now I'd like to move to our metallurgical coal business. The overall met markets still remain challenged.

The reason is the same as we have highlighted basically all year. China continues to flood cheap steel into world markets with the impact of depressing both prices and production worldwide. Jeremy is going to discuss markets in more detail in a moment. As we've talked about on previous calls, we made what seems like a very logical decision to refuse to sell tons at a loss into an oversaturated market. We're fortunate that we now have the strongest liquidity position we have ever had, which allows us the flexibility to take this posture. As a result, we are again modestly trimming production guidance despite the fact that our mines continue to produce extremely well and with solid lower mine costs. It is about as straightforward as the fact that we intend to match our production with demand.

To be clear, this guidance reduction is solely caused by weak pricing conditions in export spot markets. It's not because of high mine cost. Indeed, we are one of the only U.S. met coal producers with cash costs now below $100 per ton, with our third quarter cash costs coming in at about $97 a ton. I'd point out that starting in Q4, our costs are currently even below that figure. We are now, of course, also currently in discussion with North American Steel Mills for the annual 2026 domestic contracts. We'll talk about that more in a moment, but the negotiations are still taking place with, frankly, reality checks on both sides. No producer should have to sell to steel companies at loss-making prices. We are certainly not going to. We will talk about those negotiations more, frankly, when they are complete.

Consistent with what we have already said, until markets begin to improve, we will keep future growth CapEx at our met mines at minimal levels. We intend instead to focus on the rapid commercialization of our rare earth elements and critical minerals business. Yet, we're always going to keep an eye out on opportunistic low-cost asset acquisitions in the met space as they might present themselves. Our view is to try and position Ramaco's met business for longer-term growth on an advantaged financial basis when the situation might present itself. I'm going to wrap up on a very positive note. The bottom line is that we are in the best liquidity position we have ever been in as a company. We're now moving rapidly along a multi-year path to transition Ramaco into becoming the only U.S. dual critical mineral platform in both rare earths and met coal.

The task ahead is large, but we intend to rise to the occasion. We are going to approach the transition with the same sense of capital, financial, and operational discipline that we have shown to date. As we move forward, I strongly feel we will serve both our shareholders and our nation well for the years to come. With that, I'd like to turn the floor back to the rest of our team to discuss finances, operations, and markets. First, I would like Mike Woloschuk, who leads our critical mineral business, to share some further thoughts on our rare earth business. Mike?

Mike Woloschuk (EVP for Critical Mineral Operations)

Thank you, Randy. There has been a ramp-up in third quarter activities, and I would like to highlight some of them. Firstly, we hired Martin van Wyk as Senior Vice President of Critical Minerals Processing. Martin joined us from Fluor, Australia, where he was the global subject matter expert for rare earths. He has over 20 years of experience in mineral processing, hydrometallurgy, and rare earth element flow sheet development. He holds a Master of Chemical Engineering and a postgraduate certificate in corrosion engineering from Curtin University in Perth, Australia, as well as a Bachelor of Metallurgical Engineering from the University of Pretoria in South Africa. We anticipate his relocation to the U.S. with his family in early 2026. On September 4, we awarded the Brook Mine pre-feasibility study to Hatch. As Randy mentioned, Hatch has world-class expertise in rare earths and critical minerals hydrometallurgical flow sheet development.

Hatch's scope includes the development and management of the metallurgical test work programs to support the pre-feasibility study, as well as process flow sheet optimization and pilot plant design. The final PFS report is scheduled to be completed in April. We also awarded the metallurgical test work programs to two commercial laboratories, Element USA and SGS Lakefield. Both of these labs are known to Ramaco, and they come with extensive experience developing rare earths and critical minerals hydrometallurgical flow sheets. We are executing test work in parallel to accelerate the optimization of the flow sheet. We also completed umbrella agreements and task statements for the U.S. Department of Energy National Labs to execute test work scope there when they returned from the government shutdown. Also, in late September, we published an updated SK 1300 compliant technical report, which included an inferred resource estimate for the currently permitted area.

The results of this report suggest potential opportunity to increase the cutoff grade and increase throughput to achieve higher critical mineral production compared to the previous phase. We commenced a drilling program at the Brook Mine that is currently in progress to complete infill drilling in the permitted zone, aiming to increase geological confidence necessary to support selective mining. We are also completing step-out drill holes to evaluate the extension of high-grade trends southward and to grow the size of the total resource beyond the currently permitted area. As Randy mentioned, we awarded the detailed engineering, procurement, and construction package for the pilot plant to Xeton, a recognized global specialist and leader in the design, fabrication, and construction of pilot and demonstration plants. The pilot plant will be built on skids and shipped to our pilot facility in Wyoming.

We completed architectural and engineering designs for the Brook Mine pilot plant and laboratory facility, which Chris will get into a bit more detail soon. This complex will be constructed on Ramaco's property directly across the interstate from Ramaco's existing ICAM facility. High-voltage electrical power, the site geotechnical work, and foundations were completed. We've placed orders for analytical equipment that will be put into the laboratory facility for our own on-site analytical lab. Ramaco has fielded queries from investors and the media related to the grade of the deposit, and I'd like to talk a little bit about that. Unlike other commodities such as gold and copper, which report equivalent grades to account for byproduct credits, the rare earth industry does not account for this in reporting parts per million total rare earth oxide. It does not have a neodymium or praseodymium equivalent grade concept.

As a result, deposits with high-grade critical minerals, such as the Brook Mine, must be compared on an equivalent basis, which is referred to in the industry as a basket price. If you compare the Brook Mine basket price on an NdPr equivalent grade, we are more than 10 times higher than the industry trend for our parts per million TREO. That's a reflection of the high-value components that we have in our deposit. Furthermore, typically, higher parts per million TREO deposits are dominated by low-value lanthanum and cerium. Many of the highest-grade deposits are about 70% to more than 80% lanthanum plus cerium, which are costly to basically remove from those flow sheets. With that said, I would like to now turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Jeremy Sussman.

Jeremy Sussman (CFO)

Thank you, Mike. Starting with the balance sheet, I'm pleased to note that we had record liquidity of $272 million at the end of Q3. This is the strongest level of liquidity that we've ever had. Liquidity was up over 237% compared to the same period of 2024. We ended the quarter with a net cash position of $77 million. During the third quarter, we issued $200 million of common stock underwritten by Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs. In addition, we announced the redemption of the $34.5 million 2026 senior notes at 9% and the issuance of $65 million of 2030 senior notes at 8.25%. As noted, focusing on our core metallurgical coal business, our third quarter 2025 operational results were again solid with cash cost per ton of $97. This continues to put Ramaco Resources in the first quartile of the U.S. cash cost curve.

Cash cost per ton sold fell $6 from the second quarter on stronger overall productivity. As we head into Q4, our mine costs continue to have dropped throughout October. We would note that November and December are holiday months, which will have some impact on costs. Our Q3 production fell modestly from the second quarter to 945,000 tons. This was the result of both the typical July 4th miner vacation as well as our continued focus on value over volume. As Randy noted, we would rather leave production in the ground versus selling it at a loss into the spot market. Thankfully, our strong balance sheet, including our record liquidity position, allows us this flexibility. Overall tons sold fell to roughly 900,000 in Q3 from roughly 1.1 million tons in Q2.

This was largely due to the fact that some shipments originally scheduled for July ended up shipping in the back end of June, coupled with our disciplined approach to spot sales. Unfortunately, metallurgical coal spot price indices have continued to decline. U.S. indices fell another 6% in Q3 versus Q2 and almost 20% year over year. This caused a year-on-year decline in earnings despite strong operational achievements. Despite the continued fall in index pricing, we managed to print Q3 financial results that were similar to Q2 financial results. To get into some specifics, Q3 adjusted EBITDA was $8.4 million compared to $9 million in Q2. Q3's net loss of $13 million compared to Q2's net loss of $14 million. Class A EPS showed a $0.25 loss in Q3 versus a $0.29 loss in Q2.

While none of our primary peers have yet reported Q3 results, we suspect that our $23 per ton cash margins in Q3 will be among the highest of our peer group. As a reminder, our Q1 cash margins of $24 per ton were the highest among our peer group. Since then, our cash margins have declined just a dollar per ton. This is despite an almost $20 per ton fall in U.S. coal indices from Q1 to Q3. Again, this is a strong testament to execution from both our operations and sales teams. Looking forward, we are making a few small adjustments to our 2025 operational guidance given current market conditions. Specifically, we're optimizing our overall production and sales. We're reducing selective higher cost production to limit any need to move tons at potentially lower price spot sales, especially into Asia.

At current prices, this should provide a net benefit to free cash flow. As a result of the idling of our Laurel Fork mine at the Burwin complex, full-year 2025 production is now anticipated to come in at 3.7 to 3.9 million tons versus 3.9 million tons previously. Full-year 2025 sales are now anticipated to come in at 3.8 to 4.1 million tons versus 4.1 million tons previously. We're generally maintaining the midpoint of all other guidance other than lowering DD&A from $71 to $76 million to $70 to $72 million, lowering the estimated tax rate by 5% to 20% to 25%, and slightly increasing idle expenses from $1 to $2 million to $2 to $2.5 million. Please note that our SG&A guidance now includes stock comp to guide apples to apples to the income statement figures.

Now, turning to our rare earth elements and critical minerals business, I'd encourage you all to read Randy's September shareholder letter, which is on our website, which goes through the recently announced upsize of the Brook Mine. Specifically, the economics show a pre-tax NPV using an 8% discount rate of $5.1 billion and an IRR of more than 150% with a total initial capital cost of $1.1 billion. At full year, almost steady state production by 2028, we show achieving more than $500 million of EBITDA from the Brook Mine. Given the multiples on the rare earth names, needless to say, we're incredibly excited about the potential of this new business line. With Jason traveling, I'll briefly touch on markets for metallurgical coal and REEs. First, on the metallurgical coal side, markets continue to be plagued by continued oversupply of Chinese steel exports.

This dynamic has negatively impacted steel production in virtually all of our traditional markets. While China's anti-involution rhetoric regarding supply-side reform has been encouraging, we have not yet seen a meaningful decline in Chinese steel exports. One positive dynamic that we've seen in the market is that supply in each of the main markets of Chinese domestic met coal, seaboard, and U.S. met coal production has all been under pressure. This is due to the fact that price indices are currently trading into the third quartile of the global cost curve, and much of this supply is underwater at these price levels. We've even begun to see Tier 1 Australian producers idle some supply due to challenging market conditions. Now, as the calendar shifts to 2026, we anticipate further supply rationalization. At this point, we don't see any meaningful upward trend in pricing.

Speaking of 2026, we're currently in negotiations for the sale of metallurgical coal in 2026 to North American Steel Groups, which is ongoing. As Randy said, we will provide an update on such sales once this process is complete. The rare earth and critical minerals markets clearly have been dominated by recent political headlines coming out of the United States and China. As you know, earlier this month, China again put further restrictions on exports of its rare earth elements. These additional restrictions further underscore the need for a reliable domestic REE industry, especially for the heavy REEs in critical minerals such as gallium, germanium, and scandium. Collectively, these very elements comprise more than 90% of the anticipated revenue of the Brook Mine. These elements have also been banned for export to the U.S.

from China, and there's virtually no production in the United States today of any of these REEs in critical minerals. To that end, what we've seen over the past quarter is truly a bifurcated market between Chinese and Western pricing. As Randy said, perhaps the best example is scandium. There's currently no reliable Western index for scandium. That said, the U.S. Department of War recently signed a deal with Rio Tinto to purchase their scandium byproduct for $6.25 million a ton. This price is 67% higher than the $3.75 million price that was used in both the summary of the Fluor PEA and in Randy's shareholder letter, and it's more than five times greater than the Chinese manipulated index prices. Overall, we believe political tensions will only lead to this bifurcation between Chinese and Western REE markets increasing. We've met with a number of potential customers since our Q2 call.

While we will certainly let the market know when we have definitive offtake agreements in place, I'm encouraged by the wide range of inbound calls that we have received from industry-leading companies in sectors ranging from aerospace and defense to automotive, just to name a couple. I'd now like to turn the call back to Chris Blanchard, our EVP for Mine Planning and Development.

Chris Blanchard (EVP for Mine Planning and Development)

Thank you, Jeremy. Good morning to everybody who is with us today. Following some of Mike's earlier comments, I'll start with some of the ongoing work on the ground at the Brook complex since our last call. At our pilot plant location, the geotechnical drilling commenced and was completed during the month of September, and the subsequent engineering report to allow our foundation design was completed just in the last weeks. In parallel with this, we have also obtained all local zoning permits to begin construction and site the pilot plant. We broke ground on the facility last week, as Randy mentioned, and we expect to get the actual foundation work begun in November. We expect to have the building under roof early in 2026 to receive delivery of the first pilot plant modules from Xeton.

As Mike mentioned, in this facility, we will also house our own analytical testing laboratory. Chief among those components will be two ICP-MS machines, which have been ordered and will accelerate the testing of our ore for rare earth elements and critical minerals. At the Brook Mine itself, as Randy mentioned, we moved a large amount of coal, rock, and ore during the initial months of operation. To be more granular on some of this, we mined and isolated approximately 300 tons of high-grade REE critical mineral ore for further bench testing and pilot testing, both on-site and off-site. All of this material was located in one band of strata between our Deeps seam and our Monarch seam. We have already sent bulk samples, approximately 500 kilograms each, to the national labs as well as third-party commercial labs for continued flow sheet optimization and testing.

To put the amount of stockpiled high-grade ore in perspective, we anticipate our pilot plant, once on-site and operational, to process approximately three tons per day of ore. With what we have already accumulated, we have approximately 20 weeks of continuous operation available to process at full pilot plant capacity. Nevertheless, we are active in the mine this month and expect to ship and sell our first thermal coal from the Brook Mine in the coming weeks for a test burn at a local utility. Assuming that the testing is satisfactory, we expect we may enter into a term agreement to commercially sell thermal coal separate from our rare earth ore. While we are active in the pit for collecting the coal for the test burn, we will also be separating new critical mineral ore from the next stratigraphically lower horizon from the partings in the Monarch seam floor.

We expect this to be similarly high concentration from all of our initial drilling and testing. This Monarch ore zone will likely allow us to gather enough additional ore to support our pilot plant through its first full year of operation. The mine continues to remain in active status to allow us to obtain additional samples for testing as needed and also to advance the larger project. Longer term, we have already engaged with Sheridan's regional power supplier to begin the upgrade process for the high-voltage transmission lines in the area to support the high-voltage power needs of the full commercial processing plant at Brook. Now, moving to the east and to the metallurgical operations, the third quarter was operationally successful. We saw progressively better and lower cash costs each month following the July holiday month, culminating in company-wide cash costs of $86 per ton for the month of September.

As has been mentioned, early in September, we made the difficult decision to idle production at our low-vol Laurel Fork mine, which is located at the Burwin complex. Unfortunately, given the current and near-term sentiment of the market, financially, it did not make sense to continue to operate the mine as our holding costs were in line with our net operating costs. The impact of the removal of the relatively higher Laurel Fork cost did contribute a couple of dollars to the lowering of the overall company cash cost in September, and of course, we would expect that to continue. We're keeping the mine on a hot idle status and are maintaining the mine and infrastructure until such time as the market fundamentals have improved enough to bring back these incremental tons.

Despite the fact that we are now operating three underground sections less than we originally budgeted to be operating in 2025, September productivity levels exceeded budgeted levels enough to almost match the full original budget for produced tons. I would remind everyone that the fourth quarter does have two months with the traditional shutdown vacation weeks. While we expect productivity and production to continue at its current levels, the impact of these two vacation months will temper the cash cost performance levels seen in September and that we expect to continue or be better in October. Operationally, as we complete our budgets for 2026 and the years beyond, we're positioning all of our complexes to be able to quickly pivot as the market improves. However, little material capital for met coal growth is planned to be deployed in 2026.

In line with that, we are also working with all of our vendors and suppliers to reduce costs anywhere we can. Similarly, we are working with our lessors to get relief on royalty rates or strategically move our sections where we can from higher third-party royalty areas to our owned coal. Simply put, as we close out 2025 and head into 2026, on the metallurgical side of the business, we will put ourselves in the best position we can and control the things we can control. That is volume and operating costs. We will continue to maintain our position as one of the lowest-cost domestic producers and be ready to reinitiate our growth targets as soon as it is responsible to do so. With that said, I would now like to turn the call back over to the operator for any questions from those on the line. Operator?

Operator (participant)

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw the question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Ben Kahlo with Baird. Please go ahead.

Ben Kallo (Managing Director)

Hey, good morning, everyone. Thank you for all that detail. Just a big picture, lots of talks about the deals with the United States and our allies. Can you maybe kind of give your viewpoint on that and then how that impacts any kind of support that you get from the United States government for your development? I have a follow-up too.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

I think, you know, in the political arena, when the U.S. starts making deals with foreign countries, you know, that obviously has macro political implications. As far as the supply implications, I think it remains to be seen specifically what type of supply those countries will be supplying to the U.S. I think the jury's still out. I'll let Mike maybe comment on that because he's probably much more familiar with some of the operational aspects of some of the countries over there. As far as it has to do with the U.S. and what it will do or not do with trying to support its own domestic industry over here, I think the government is moving forward on various fronts to try to be as supportive as they can, as we've seen over the last several months. Mike, please go ahead and comment on that.

Mike Woloschuk (EVP for Critical Mineral Operations)

Yeah, look, my view on this is that these are short-term agreements. Until the U.S. ramps up domestic supply of these critical minerals, there's a need perhaps to close the window in the short term. I think given the application of what these critical minerals are used for, there will be domestic supply in the U.S., and this is really a short-term solution.

Ben Kallo (Managing Director)

Thank you. My follow-up is just about extracting rare earth elements from coal. Can you talk about what you've done and what you still need to be done to de-risk that process, and if it's been done elsewhere, or just give us some thoughts around that? Thank you guys very much.

Mike Woloschuk (EVP for Critical Mineral Operations)

Sure. I think some of the industry thinks we're extracting coal or our rare earths from fly ash. We're not doing that. We spent a good part of a calendar year testing various processes and metallurgical flow sheets to achieve one main objective, and that is to solubilize all of the high-value critical minerals. Our process plant is basically taking the clays and the shales that are intermingled with coal, and we're extracting the rare earths from those. Once soluble, the flow sheet is less risk in terms of purification and separation because there's technologies out there and examples and commercial applications that do that. My view is that the high-risk part of this flow sheet was proving that we can extract the minerals, which we've done. Currently, in the pre-feasibility study, we're spending more time on that downstream purification, looking at options, for instance.

Do we use precipitation, ion exchange? We're concentrating our rare earths and critical minerals for further downstream processing and optimization. Like in every project, as we advance through the engineering studies, we're looking for more engineering design definition and optimization.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah, I'll make one other comment, which is one that we've said before, but probably merits saying again. You know, coal is essentially an unconventional source of rare earth. It's unconventional in a number of capacities. One of which, of course, is most rare earths are found in hard mineral. Coal is much easier to mine. It's a much softer material to process as well. Of course, from a processing and mining standpoint, it is not radioactive. Most of the other hard rock minerals have radioactive tailings, which has to be dealt with both in terms of the mining, the waste side of that after the mine has been done, as well as, obviously, through the processing. Coal is a much more benign feedstock to work with.

Ben Kallo (Managing Director)

Thanks, guys. I'll jump back in.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from Colin Rush with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Colin Rusch (Managing Director and Head of Sustainable Growth and Resource Optimization Research)

Thanks so much, guys. Could you talk about how modular your plans are for the processing facilities and how we could think about some of this capacity coming online? Is it possible that you could start ramping some of this capacity a little bit earlier as you ramp up certain segments of the facility?

Mike Woloschuk (EVP for Critical Mineral Operations)

Yeah, look, we are, and I think we've announced the acceleration. What I spoke about today is we're conducting test work programs in parallel. We have two commercial labs working on this flow sheet optimization, as well as the U.S. government labs. When they get back to work, we intend to have testing being conducted at three facilities. I think in terms of ramp-up, we've talked about that. We have some optionality with ramp-up, whether that's staging to meet the demand. I think in terms of what we need to achieve first is confirmation of the flow sheet, early engagement with technology providers, and we are having some of those conversations now to make sure that they advance the engineering with us and identification of long lead items, which Hatch is working on now, so that we can place equipment orders early.

I think the fact that we're permitted gives us some advantage because we can get into this site to do some early site works versus projects that are still waiting for permits. All of those factors are going to help us ramp up more quickly.

Colin Rusch (Managing Director and Head of Sustainable Growth and Resource Optimization Research)

Thanks so much. Given some of the substantial value that is coming from the facility or coming from the site through scandium, can you talk about how mature those conversations are? Any sort of issues around pricing, either higher or lower, that you see potentially impacting some of these estimates? As some of the incremental capacity comes online, I think some folks may get a little concerned that you start impacting some of the broader market prices, but that may not be the case. I just want to get a sense of how substantial those conversations are and some of the impact around some of the estimates.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Sure. We're not going to get too far under the weeds in terms of discussions about negotiations that are taking place in real time. I will say that we are having discussions with both domestic and international customers as it relates to scandium. We have not gotten to price specifics at this point, but as I mentioned, the last, frankly, major price marker was the one that the U.S. government established with their deal with Rio here a couple of weeks ago. In terms of negotiations, we obviously don't negotiate in public like anyone else does. Once we get to a point where we have actually agreement on any points, then obviously that'll be disclosed.

Colin Rusch (Managing Director and Head of Sustainable Growth and Resource Optimization Research)

Perfect. Thanks so much, guys.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from Matthew Key with Texas Capital. Please go ahead.

Matthew Key (VP of Equity Research)

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking my questions. Staying on kind of the rare earth side, we've seen some other coal companies hint at the potential for rare earth development in the PRB. Could you maybe share some color on why you view Brook as unique compared to other PRB assets? What's the major differentiator there in your view?

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Sure. I'll give you basically what we have been told by NETL, which did a national assessment of rare earth sites, frankly, all over the country and specifically in the Powder River Basin. In the Powder River Basin, of course, there are areas where there is REE concentrations. The unique thing about the Brook Mine site is that we are, frankly, on the far western edge, almost the edge itself of the Powder River Basin. To our west is where there was a great deal of volcanic activity, you know, millions of years ago, which we benefited by having that volcanic ash rain down on our site. We also had, similarly, a lot of deposits of rare earths that, frankly, were commingled with the alluvial seas, and they permeated up through the crust onto our site.

The comment that was made to us by NETL was that you might go just a few miles from where we are, and we probably have about a seven or eight-mile site, and you might not find anything. Indeed, when we've mined, you can go and find high concentrations and then go probably 10 to 15 feet away, and you don't hit any. We can't really comment on what somebody else's site might or might not have, but we have been led to believe that we have a particularly unique site with some geological anomalies that might not be repeatable elsewhere.

Matthew Key (VP of Equity Research)

Got it. That's super helpful context. Thank you for that. Staying on Brook, I was curious, in regards to the Strategic Critical Minerals Terminal, is that expected to add a material amount of CapEx to the overall project, or should it be relatively small?

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

It should be relatively small. Certainly, the overall context, the big spend, of course, is going to be on our commercial oxide plant. I think it does add a very unique dimension because it allows us to control some of the downstream. We will sort of be a unique site there where we can act as sort of a, certainly, as I said, either a regional or a national hub to stockpile rare earths for whether they are public or private uses. It gives us some price visibility on what we're doing and also allows us to put our own feedstock and oxides into the stockpile to be able to have some form of controlled marketing as well as some finance opportunities.

Matthew Key (VP of Equity Research)

Got it. That's clear. I appreciate the time today, and best of luck moving forward.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from Nick Giles with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Nick Giles (Senior Research Analyst)

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. My first question, I just wanted to follow up. I want to better understand the rationale behind the Strategic Critical Minerals Terminal. What kind of economics will the third party receive? I guess my question is, why not sell directly to customers with a smaller footprint for potentially more attractive economics?

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

I'm not sure I understood your second question, but the first question, you know, what do customers receive? Basically, you know, we will be able to have sort of a clearinghouse. Think of it more in the context like a regional petroleum hub where you can basically market from that site to third parties in a controlled manner, which provides some optionality both for other producers as well as for ourselves. In terms of the overall economics, I think it'll be a net benefit. It's obviously not going to be a heavy CapEx requirement for us, but it does provide us some visibility into the market that we might not otherwise have.

Nick Giles (Senior Research Analyst)

Thanks for that. My second question was, you announced the pilot plant oxide facility the other day or the groundbreaking, at least. The target is to be operational by mid-2026, and you expect to operate it for a six-month period. I believe that's fairly accelerated relative to other pilot facilities across the space. My question is, what ultimately gives you the confidence that you'll be able to fine-tune and validate the processing techniques on this timeline?

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

I'll let Mike get into some of the technical aspects. As I said earlier, what we're trying to do is kind of fast-track it by, first of all, while we're actually constructing a facility to build the pilot plant in, we are going to have that basic engineering design and testing done off-site at a spot that's already got all of the equipment, infrastructure, and testing facilities to do that in real time for a period of months, maybe as long as six months before we even have to get our own site in position to basically have all that material moved into it. We'll accelerate that from that standpoint. That's the Xeton arrangement. Mike, go ahead and touch on some other aspects here.

Mike Woloschuk (EVP for Critical Mineral Operations)

Yeah, I think it's worth mentioning. We've been designing the pilot plant now for a couple of months. Although we've just announced where we're at, Hatch has been involved with us, putting together a basic engineering package. We've got the mass balances, the flow sheets. We've sized the equipment. We've handed over a detailed engineering package to Xeton. This is well underway. We know what equipment, the sizing, where we're going to source them. Chris mentioned we came to a three-ton per day of ore throughput to the pilot plant. We picked Xeton because this is their wheelhouse. They design and build these plants. They have technical skills in-house that can fabricate vessels if they need to be custom designed, for instance. We're not sending things to third parties to get fabricated.

I think the other thing to mention is, you know, I, Xeton, was involved with them more than 20 years ago on a very complicated pilot plant also. In terms of answering your question about ramp-up, frankly, we've got Hatch, who's got several subject matter experts in rare earths in the Americas. We brought Martin on board, which, coming from Fluor, there was similar unit operations with separation purification. We have some knowledge in-house about what we're going to do with the design to help us get ramped up. The six-month operation period is really to generate product that's going to be quality spec for our off-takers. That pilot plant is going to be an asset that we're going to continue to run for years ahead, as needed, and testing and continually optimizing, like other facilities.

When they have pilot plants on site, it's really an asset for the company long term.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah, I'd just like to add, I think, you know, we are doing a lot of stuff behind the scenes that we're not exactly announcing on a daily basis. You know, we have been at this now for about, I guess, going on our seventh year, so the amount of behind-the-scenes work is a lot more substantial than I think may meet the eye.

Nick Giles (Senior Research Analyst)

Got it. Guys, appreciate the color. I'll jump back in too.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from Nathan Martin with The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.

Nathan Martin (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. A lot of information discussed already. I guess, you know, maybe at a high level, what do you guys need to see from the pilot plant process, customer conversations, etc., to make you feel comfortable enough to move forward with full commercialization? Do you still expect to make that decision by the end of next year, possibly?

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Sure. I'll make a comment on the high level, probably from a finance and strategic standpoint. I'll let Mike comment from a high level on the technical side. Obviously, as a normal development project, particularly in a new business line, we're going to want to see confirmation of customer acceptance of our product, appropriate pricing for our product, and appropriate contracts, hopefully on a long-term basis that establish the underlying predicate to do normal forms of finance. You know, this is not going to be an inexpensive project. We know that. It's a critically important project, not only, of course, for Ramaco Resources, but frankly, we feel for the country. We will take all deliberate steps. We are not gunslingers. We are not promoters in the sense that we're trying to get out in front of markets that aren't there.

I think we will be deploying the same sort of careful discipline that we have used in our metallurgical coal business to ensure that we've got a market for the product that we will build. We will finance it conservatively, and we will try to make sure that it operates efficiently and at low cost. Mike, I'll let you pick up from there.

Mike Woloschuk (EVP for Critical Mineral Operations)

Sure. I think the purpose of piloting is twofold. It's prudent for us to provide confidence that we have a flow sheet that works and we can produce product on spec for our off-takers. There's plenty of projects, commercial plants that are built without piloting. Given we have an unconventional deposit, it provides people with confidence that technically our flow sheet works and that we can achieve the product spec. That's really what I'm aiming to achieve, on the technical validation, and that's why we're piloting.

Nathan Martin (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

I appreciate those comments, guys. Maybe just one question on the met coal side of the house. You know, updated full-year sales guidance looks like it assumes about 900,000 to 1.2 million tons shipped in the fourth quarter. Looks like 3.9 million tons committed, I believe. Where do you think you ultimately kind of end up within that range? What could be some puts and takes there?

Mike Woloschuk (EVP for Critical Mineral Operations)

Hey, Nate. I think as Randy said and Chris said as well, the mines are running great, but obviously, we've continued to sort of rationalize production, because we're just not going to sell it at a loss into the spot market. Certainly, we've got inventory on the ground and the ability to hit the high end of the range. Kind of similar to Q3, where you saw us obviously come in a little bit more towards the lower end of the range on shipments, we will monitor the market and sort of see where things shake out. I would say probably the vast majority of the range is just candidly market-driven.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah. I'd say, Nate, one of the things we always find in the fourth quarter is that, at least for the last couple of years, a lot of the domestic steel guys have, frankly, underbought as they go into their original contract procurement. You get to the fourth quarter, and they need to play catch-up. This is perhaps particularly true in a year where there is a supply rationalization. As you well know, we've seen that.

Number of suppliers in the market cut back or frankly go under. I think it's going to be interesting how the fourth quarter plays out.

Nathan Martin (Senior Equity Research Analyst)

All right. Very helpful, gentlemen. Appreciate the time, and best of luck in the fourth quarter.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Thanks.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from Alex Furman with Lucid Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Alex Fuhrman (Managing Director of Equity Research)

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. You have a really diverse portfolio of critical minerals at the Brook Mine. Is the pilot prototype that you're building in Ontario designed to process the entire range of minerals that you have, or is it possible that you're going to need some additional partnerships to process some of the less common metals? We'd love to get some more color on that.

Mike Woloschuk (EVP for Critical Mineral Operations)

Yeah, we aren't anticipating any partners. I think there has been some conversations recently about, you know, is there an opportunity to pull something else out of this mix? You're right. It's a very unique basket. There's been interest in yttrium, potential samarium, and others. Gadolinium has been mentioned. I think the beauty of a pilot plant is there is some flexibility in being able to test other things. We are designing with that in mind, that we have flexibility with the pilot plant, that if we want to bolt something on to test or to validate, we have the opportunity to do that.

Alex Fuhrman (Managing Director of Equity Research)

Okay, that's really helpful. Thank you very much.

Operator (participant)

Our next question comes from Jeff Graham with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Jeff Grampp (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)

Morning, guys. I wanted to talk on the permitting side of things. Can you guys give us a sense of the timeline to get the remainder of the mine permitted to handle the increased throughput plans you guys have talked about?

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

We are already meeting with some of the federal groups on permitting. We've had ongoing dialogue, of course, at the state level. We just received our next five-year renewal on our original mine permit, which frankly lets us continue to do everything we want to do without further amendment. What we're developing right now, and I'll maybe let Chris speak just a little bit to it, but we are developing our mine plans as it relates to the balance of our 16,000-acre site. Of course, the original mine plans only covered about a third of that or less. Once those plans are developed, then we will proceed, probably on somewhat of a combination of both a federal and state expanded permitting. Chris, you might want to just talk a little bit about your mine planning.

Chris Blanchard (EVP for Mine Planning and Development)

Yeah, just to add a little bit of color to what Randy said, we already have the permitted areas, a huge area. It's about a 30-year mine plan at the base rate. We have the ability to deploy two or three fleets for the size that we ultimately choose to mine at Brook within the permitted area. That will require minor modifications to the permit as far as the staging of the mine, but not actually having to have the entire property permitted on day one. We've got a lot of runway in front of us. We are drilling all the testing wells that are required for water outside that permit area, and quite frankly, to go deeper as well. With the amount of area that we have at Brook, that's not even a startup concern on the initial mine permit.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah. I mean, the one thing I'd point out, just given the frankly massive size of the deposit, depending upon the sort of velocity of our mining, we've got, on one end, probably north of a 150-year mine life. If we want to accelerate the mining, obviously, that number goes down depending upon how quickly we intend to mine on an annualized basis. We have more than enough to say grace over at the moment. The interesting thing is, from a permitting standpoint, I would add also one other aspect. We have only, frankly, tested, as I've said before, on a sort of conventional Powder River surface mine program where we have core drilled down to about 150, 200 feet. We have discovered, or frankly, NETL helped us discover, that we have deposits that are much deeper.

We have done some cores now that have found much higher concentrations down in about the 500 to 600-foot levels in some of our areas of the site. In addition to what we've got at the surface, we've also got potentially a very large, sort of untapped and unexplored area in a much more subterranean area, which might lend itself to a different kind of mining. We've talked about before the notion that we could do some form of in situ injection well mining for some of the deep stuff, which would probably encompass another type of permitting exercise. It just shows how big this deposit really is.

Jeff Grampp (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)

That's really interesting. Thank you. Thanks. Just a quick follow-up. Randy, you mentioned being on the lookout for some opportunistic bolt-on acquisitions. Can you shed a little light on what kind of opportunities you guys are looking for, and how you'd characterize the overall attractiveness of the acquisition market? Thanks.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Yeah. I mean, when we get asked about, you know, M&A opportunities, I always quip, you know, we're not particularly interested in the M, but we'll take a look at the A. You know, we have kind of had a program in the past of picking up somewhat opportunistically assets, be they reserves or infrastructure in the coal space, that are accretive to us, and that we're able to pick up on an advantage basis, based on perhaps market distress that others might have. Frankly, we're looking at some of those now. We've also made a small acquisition out, frankly, in the Brook Mine area where we bought about 1,200 acres of surface property on top of what we already own, which is going to provide us a lot of optionality for some of the planning for where we might want to site some of the industrial areas out there.

We're always on the lookout, but we're kind of a rather opportunistic buyer.

Jeff Grampp (Managing Director and Senior Research Analyst)

Understood. Thank you guys for the time. Appreciate it.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

Appreciate it.

Operator (participant)

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Randall Atkins, Chairman and CEO.

Randy Atkins (Chairman and CEO)

I'd just like to thank everybody for being on the line today. I realize this was a little bit longer than our normal quarterly call, but as we move forward, we're basically giving a rundown on two separate operations, both of which are very important. We appreciate you bearing with us, and we'll certainly look forward to keeping everybody apprised as we move forward. We'll look forward to our next call after the end of the year. Take care.

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