OGE Energy - Q1 2023
May 4, 2023
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Operator (participant)
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the OGE Energy Corp First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jason Bailey, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Jason.
Jason Bailey (Director of Investor Relations)
Thank you, Hope. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the call. With me today, I have Sean Trauschke, our Chairman, President, and CEO, and Bryan Buckler, our CFO. In terms of the call today, we will first hear from Sean, followed by an explanation from Bryan of financial results. Finally, as always, we will answer your questions. I would like to remind you that this conference is being webcast, and you may follow along at oge.com. In addition, the conference call and accompanying slides will be archived following the call on that same website. Before we begin the presentation, I'd like to direct your attention to the Safe Harbor statement regarding forward-looking statements. This is an SEC requirement for financial statements and simply states that we cannot guarantee forward-looking financial results, but this is our best estimate to date.
I will now turn the call over to Sean for his opening remarks. Sean?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thank you, Jason. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on today's call. We're off to a really strong start for the year. As you know, the first quarter typically represents less than 10% of the electric company's earnings. However, this quarter does provide momentum for the year, and I really like what I see. Earlier this morning, we reported consolidated earnings for the quarter of $0.19 per share, with $0.20 per share from OG&E and a holding company loss of $0.01. I'm pleased with the overall performance of the electric company, with results up year-over-year. Bryan will discuss our financial results in more detail shortly. Our plan for the future is strong when you consider increased demand for electricity to support our growing communities. Business expansion is broad, representing many sectors, including manufacturing, defense, tribal enterprises, and healthcare in both Arkansas and Oklahoma.
Some of these expansions include significant job growth, including 900 new military personnel who will be stationed at Ebbing Air National Guard Base in Fort Smith, Arkansas, along with Pratt & Whitney's announcement last month of a new sustainment center associated with its operations near Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma. Our customer initiatives have gained steam, particularly in the digital experience. One quarter after launching our new mobile app, more than 10% of our customer base has downloaded the app. More importantly, they're using it from bill payment to outage reporting. We're making it easier for customers to self-serve online, enrolling in programs, enrolling in services that help them manage their energy usage and monthly bill. These efforts pay off in a multitude of ways, from improving our customer experience to driving costs out of our business.
Our grid and weather hardening investments are also paying off for customers and helping us achieve strong operational performance. Something that's really important when you know that Oklahoma is a top five state for federally declared storms. These investments are eliminating and reducing outages during severe weather. Two weeks ago, severe storms hit our service area, with 2 communities highly impacted, Shawnee and Cole, Oklahoma. That night, there were 18 tornadoes, and what struck Shawnee left more than a mile-wide path of destruction and people without power. Yet, within 48 hours, 75% of our customers were back online, and by Monday, that number was 95%. The total customer impact to our system on the night of the storms was less than one half of 1% of our customer base. You just don't see those results following severe storms in other parts of the country.
The folks in those towns have a long road ahead to rebuild. We'll be right there with them all along the way. I'm proud to work alongside our team every day. It's times like these that I am in awe of the dedicated men and women who understand our obligation to serve and don't stop until the work is done. We continue to invest in the grid, improving distribution circuits, substations, and structural resiliency to mitigate the impact of severe weather like the storms I mentioned earlier. We're excited about the opportunities through the IIJA to advance our reliability and resiliency work for our customers while grounding our work in affordability with a 50% cost share through the federal grant. Supporting a growing customer base and thriving communities translates to a growing need for generation capacity.
As you know, we are actively working through multiple RFPs to meet our capacity needs, and we're making progress on finalizing the agreements and plan to file for approval this summer. Not all the RFP responses delivered the value we were looking for, so we will be issuing a new IRP later this year with updated planning assumptions as well as exploring how opportunities in the IIJA and IRA to advance clean energy for the future might fit into the overall plan. Our goal is to implement a generation plan that supports our customers and the business, smoothing investments in a steady, incremental way without large spikes or bumps. We'll deal with all of these factors in the most cost-effective way, ensuring we lead with affordability.
I've mentioned the IIJA a couple of times, and we continue to pursue opportunities through the act with two full proposals under review, one for grid resiliency and onefor storm protection. Last month, we also submitted two concept papers under the Energy Improvements in Rural or Remote Areas program. With three-quarters of our service area considered disadvantaged or tribal communities, we will relentlessly pursue every opportunity to improve reliability and resiliency for those customers. Along with these programs, we're excited to be part of the HALO Hydrogen Hub, a three-state partnership between Arkansas, Louisiana and Oklahoma, which is applying for the Regional Clean Hydrogen Hubs program allocated through the IIJA. The full application is for $1.25 billion in federal funding and was submitted just last month. We were also pleased the Oklahoma Corporation Commission approved our 2021 fuel prudency audit last month.
Given the robust growth of our communities and the capital investments required to ensure reliable and resilient electricity, we're evaluating the timing of our next rate review, which could be filed during the second half of this year. In March, the Arkansas Public Service Commission approved a settlement in the annual formula rate plan review. New rates went into effect April 1st. We'll file the last formula rate plan update later this year. As I close, I wanna share a few thoughts on where we're headed. This is an exciting time to be part of this industry and work at this company, especially when you do business in a service area that is growing. We are truly in an opportunity-rich environment. Our significant investment opportunities correlate directly to our economic development engine that drives community growth and business expansion in our service area.
This widens the competitive advantage we have in adding customers to the cities and towns we serve. As we ground our plans in affordability for our customers in maintaining our low rates, the future of OGE Energy is bright. Our investments are delivering results with a 99.96% uptime. Our service area is thriving, our business, our customer base is growing, our business fundamentals are excellent, and our team, I think, is the very best in the business and are focused on delivering premium electric company results. We're operating from a strong base and are confident in delivering our commitments to you and as well to our customers. Now I'll turn the call over to Bryan. Bryan?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Thank you, Sean. Thank you, Jason. Good morning, everyone. Let's start on slide five and discuss first quarter 2023 results. On a consolidated basis, first quarter net income was $38 million or $0.19 per diluted share, compared to $280 million or $1.39 per share in the same period 2022. Earnings for the first quarter of last year included $1.15 per share from natural gas midstream operations, which we fully exited in 2022 through the sale of our Energy Transfer units. The electric company achieved net income of $40 million or $0.20 per diluted share in the first quarter, compared to $39 million or $0.19 per share in the same period 2022.
The increase in electric company net income was primarily due to increased recoveries of capital investments and strong load growth, partially offset by higher O&M and favorable weather and increased depreciation on a growing asset base. Other operations, including our holding company, reported a loss of $1.5 million or a $0.01 loss per diluted share in the first quarter compared to net income of $10 million or $0.05 per share in the same period 2022. The decrease in net income was primarily due to a consolidating interim tax benefit of $12 million in the first quarter 2022 related to OG&E's investment in Energy Transfer that reversed over the course of the year. Turning to customer growth and load results on slide six.
Our customers grew at a rate of approximately 1%, and weather-normalized load grew at a rate of 3.9% compared to first quarter 2022. This trend of strong growth in customers and load is a testament to the vibrancy of the economies in Oklahoma and Arkansas and our sustainable business model of economic and business development enabled by OG&E's low customer rates. While residential load was lower as more and more of our customers returned to the office, oil field and public authority had very solid growth, and the commercial sector turned in its third straight quarter of double-digit year-over-year increases in weather normal load. As Sean alluded to, the pipeline of prospective business expansions continues to be as robust as the company has seen in many years, coming from data mining, manufacturing, defense, healthcare, and tribal enterprises, among others.
The economic situation in Oklahoma and Arkansas is outstanding. For the full year, we continue to forecast total weather normal load growth of 4%-5% compared to 2022. Let's move to Slide seven for an update on our 2023 financing plan. As you know, OGE Energy is fortified by one of the strongest balance sheets in the industry, with no need to issue equity for our current capital forecast. Furthermore, our projection of FFO to debt metrics of 17.5%-18% throughout the five-year forecast period is one of the best in the industry. At the electric company, we issued $350 million of 5.6% notes in April and have now completed our planned long-term debt issuances for the year.
Later this month, we will pay off the $500 million of senior notes at the electric company and $500 million of senior notes at the holding company that were issued in 2021 after Winter Storm Uri. With these repayments, we will be in a short-term debt position at the holding company and expect to end the year with a balance of approximately $300 million. Accordingly, our relative holding company debt position will be one of the lowest in the industry at well less than 10% of consolidated debt. As a reminder, we have no additional fixed-rate maturities through 2026. Before transitioning to our final slide, let me provide an update on our fuel underrecovery status.
At the end of March, our fuel underrecovery balance was approximately $370 million, a reduction of $145 million since year-end. While we still have several months before we will catch up on the recovery of last year's fuel costs, we are hopeful these fuel price trends continue and ultimately lead to lower bills for our customers. Let's wrap up on slide eight. In summary, our first quarter EPS came in as expected. I have great confidence in our employees' ability to execute on our plan for the full year 2023, and to deliver financial results consistent with our earnings guidance. Simply said, I really like where we stand for 2023. That allows us to focus on achieving our longer-term commitments to customers, communities, employees, and shareholders.
As Sean mentioned, the fundamentals of OG&E's business are encouraging, including strong economic, infrastructure and load growth with the foundation of a solid balance sheet, all of which underpin our confidence in a 5%-7% long-term earnings per share growth rate at the electric company. We believe this projected earnings trajectory, coupled with an expected stable and growing dividend, offers our investors an attractive total return proposition. With that, we will open the line for your questions.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Shahriar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Your line is now open.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Hi. Good morning, Sean and team. Congrats on great quarter. It's actually Constantine here for Char.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Hey, good morning, Constantine. Good morning.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
How you guys doing? Starting off on the quarter, obviously, weather was unfavorable. Can you talk about some of the offsets that you're embedding in the reiterated guidance? I think the slides are showing some strong normalized load growth. How much is that contributing to the expectations for the remainder of the year or any other offsetting factors?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Sure, Constantine. You're right. You know, the quarter had about a $0.01-$0.02 negative impact compared to normal when it comes to margins and the mild weather. You know, Constantine, I would just point you to the fact we have so many tailwinds for this company this year, sprinkled all throughout, I guess, the revenue areas when you think about load growth, sales mix, and various items. We're really bullish on 2023, and we're in a position where we can, pardon the pun, but weather the mild weather. We're in really good shape for 2023.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Excellent. Thanks for that. On the financing side, as you mentioned, you do have a very strong balance sheet and financing for this year is effectively done. Just for the near term, maybe some thoughts around kind of using the cash convertible debt that some peers have been using for some near-term benefits and kind of locking in against your five year funding needs. Maybe as you look prospectively, just interest rates have come down a bit this year, so especially at the tail end of the curve. Is that giving you some headroom versus your long-term guidance?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Constantine, this is Brian. I'll take that one as well. You know, you're correct. We are completed with our debt issuance plans for this year. We definitely are monitoring what other utilities and holding companies have issued. I think it's the latest term maybe for this hybrid instrument you're mentioning is cash convertible debt. And that's something we'll study. We don't have a holding company debt issuance need in the near term, but we'll continue to evaluate it. As far as interest rates, you know, we do plan conservatively as we look out to future years on interest rates. We're certainly optimistic that rates, short-term rates especially, will trend down in years ahead, which will just be overall beneficial to our company.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Is that something that's already embedded in the kind of five to seven?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
No, no. We're, you know, we're using, you know, that 5%+ expectation on short-term rates this year and into the future. That's, that's not embedded yet.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Excellent. Thanks for that. I'll jump back in the queue.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please click star one one on your telephone. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Bank of America. Your line is now open.
Heidi Hauch (Equity Analyst)
Hi. Good morning. This is Heidi Hauch on for Julien. Thank you for taking our questions.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Good morning, Heidi.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Good morning.
Heidi Hauch (Equity Analyst)
Good morning Just first question is, can you provide more details on your commentary on the latest round of solar RFPs and why the RFP fell short of your expectations or your watermark to move forward there? Also, what changes or developments will you need to see to move forward more meaningfully on utility scale solar procurement?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thank you, Heidi. Great question. You know, as you know, we had a number of different RFPs. We had three out there, three distinct RFP processes going on. We're in the middle of a lot of negotiations. You know, it's active.
It's very fluid right now, we're rounding those out. You know, I would think, we didn't say that we do not have bids out of a particular RFP.
We're gonna continue to add generation to our fleet. We do wanna make sure it's smooth those out, make sure we don't have the big blips. I've said previously that I would expect, you know, as we fill this capacity need in the future, it's gonna be a combination of gas and solar. Maybe if batteries get more economic, we'll look at those as well. That's where we see it going. You know, obviously, you know, these negotiations, you know, obviously cost is a big factor. You've also got timing and deliverability, availability is a big factor. Then you've just got the normal terms around risk transfer. You know, what you, what you're accepting in terms of a risk and, on what you're not willing to accept as a risk.
It is taking a little longer than I anticipated, but we do intend to file this summer our results. We will, as I said, we're gonna go through another integrated resource planning process, really to make sure we incorporate the benefits of the IIJA and IRA opportunities. You know, hopefully we see a little more relief, you know, from some of the inflationary pressures and the time frames that are out there.
Heidi Hauch (Equity Analyst)
Okay, great. That's very helpful. Thank you. Just a quick follow-up. Given that kind of summer timeframe, for filing the new RFPs, I believe you mentioned, can you confirm what solar CapEx is included or embedded in the near-term plan, if any? That would be helpful.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. Yeah. We do not have any solar, specific, plans, CapEx in our plans or gas.
Heidi Hauch (Equity Analyst)
Okay. Got it. Okay, great. Thank you. Then, secondly, the latest 4%-5% load growth forecast is very strong. How do you perceive the sustainability of that 4%-5% load growth trajectory into 2024 and beyond?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. I think that's a great question. Obviously, 4%-5% is robust. You know, we've been talking about this for a while, and that's on top of what we did the prior year. You know, the challenge is, it's very difficult to really pinpoint whether growth is in the subsequent years is gonna be, you know, 4.5%, 3.5%, 6.5%. It's very difficult once you get beyond 12 months, because it depends a whole lot on what happens in the current year and then the timing of in-service dates for some of those developments. We will lay that out as we move forward, but we are very bullish.
I think you've heard it from Bryan, you've heard it from me that, you know, we've built something here that this engine is really moving down the track, and we intend to keep it going for many, many years. It's really the foundation of our company that we're gonna continue to see load growth and customers come to us. We're gonna continue to increase the capital to support them. We're gonna spread that over more customers and thereby widening that competitive advantage we have in economic development. Again, we think this engine is gonna go for many, many years.
Heidi Hauch (Equity Analyst)
Great. Great. Totally understood that one. Kinda lastly here, can you provide an update on your efforts in terms of complying with the latest iteration of EPA's Good Neighbor Rule and maybe just an update overall on how this policy should impact your portfolio prospectively?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, between the Good Neighbor Rule and, you know, we've seen that, we certainly expect, you know, the GHG rules to be out here shortly. We've been through this before, right? This will go through many iterations. It'll probably get litigated. I think that's always been factored into our longer term planning and how we think about our generation mix. You know, none of that is in our plans today because the rules aren't necessarily final. We'll evaluate those and make the right decision for our customers.
Heidi Hauch (Equity Analyst)
Great. Thank you very much for all your, all your guidance.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thank you. Have a nice day, Heidi.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from Alex Mortimer with Mizuho. Your line is open.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Hi. Good morning.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Morning.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Morning.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
I was hoping, can you provide any color on if there's any timeline or internal thought on when we may get the EPS CAGR on a consolidated basis and not just at the utility?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, I think it's our intention to do that in February. You know, the logic there was we are very bullish on our utility. You know, as we were exiting the midstream business, and Brian mentioned the retirement of some debt there from Winter Storm Uri, we're letting all that work itself out. We're going to provide a consolidated growth rate when we get to February.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Okay. Understood. I know you're obviously very bullish on load growth, but a lot of it is tied to commercial as well as it looks like some oil field. With oil prices kind of declining in recent weeks, potential economic slowdown, people are predicting second half of this year, how do you think of your exposure to kind of both of these factors?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, you know, certainly, we've seen a tailwind from oil field, but, you know, if you go back, a year ago, it wasn't a tailwind, and load growth was still robust. You know, Bryan alluded to this, and I referenced it in my remarks. The growth is pretty diverse. You know, not just in oil field, but if you look at a lot of what we're seeing around the defense industry, it's really growing. What sneaks up on you really quickly there are the residential numbers. There's just a lot of residential customers, but as you see these new industries come in, and you're adding 90, 100 people at a time, that adds residential accounts too.
I think there's a lot of solid base there for that continued growth, and we're not necessarily tied to a particular industry.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Understood. To just round out load growth, is there any good way that you quantify your impact of load growth on earnings for, like, for example, every 10 basis points of load growth is worth $0.01 to EPS or sort of something along those lines that we should be thinking about?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, I think we're all smiling here 'cause we'd love to be able to do that. You know, it really has a lot to do with, you know, the segment itself.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Mm-hmm.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
They have a margin contribution that's different based on the segment. The other thing that's, you know, important too is, you know, when those new load-serving entities come on the system. you know, so, you know, whether it's at the end of the year, the middle of the year, the beginning of the year. you know, that has a different impact from year to year as well. We're keenly focused on the sensitivity there, but we haven't come up with a good 10 basis point sensitivity that we could really crisply give you.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Okay. Understood. Thank you so much. That's all for me. Congrats on the quarter.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thank you.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Thanks, Alex.
Operator (participant)
Please stand by for our next question. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please click star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from Aditya Gandhi with Wolfe Research. Your line is open.
Aditya Gandhi (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Good morning, Sean and Bryan. Can you hear me?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Yes, we can. Good morning.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Good morning.
Aditya Gandhi (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Perfect. Good morning. My first question, just on the outstanding RFPs, could you just clarify the timeline? You're gonna file for approval sometime in the summer, and then after you do that, what milestones should we be watching or looking at? To the extent that you can address, can you give us some sense of what percentage of your generation need would be fulfilled from this current round of RFPs versus sort of like your next IRP or RFPs?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. we're gonna file this summer and, you know, in both states. In Oklahoma, under the provisions there, you have up to 240 days to receive approval for that. That would be one milestone. I also mentioned that we are going to start the Integrated Resource Plan. We're gonna reissue that again to incorporate, you know, the IIJA and IRA opportunities. Also, you know, Bryan spent a lot of time talking about the load growth. Our load growth projections are changing as well. You know, in terms of, you know, what percentages and what we're gonna file for, while we're still in negotiations, we're probably not in a position to kind of comment on that right now.
Aditya Gandhi (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Okay. No, I understand that. Just moving on to sort of the timing for your next rate review. You mentioned that it could potentially be filed in the latter half of this year. Just when we're thinking about the level of the rate increase, just given the high fuel costs last year, how are you thinking about the level of the rate increase? Could you also comment on whether the next rate review could potentially include recovery for the generation investments, or is that gonna be through a separate process?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, we're gonna file in Oklahoma through a separate process for approval mechanism we have in statute here. We're gonna go through that for the generation. Then in terms of the rate review, your point is spot on. I mean, we are focused on affordability, and that's the key pillar of our, of our growth engine. We've got to keep our rates attractive so we can continue this growth story. We are sensitive to that. This is not a large rate case. You know, we have a goal of staying current and making sure that everything is timely. Our customers have communicated to us they like the smoothing effect that we're trying to ensure.
No one wants to see any big spikes, and we don't intend to see that going forward.
Aditya Gandhi (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Perfect. Thank you. Just one last question, if I may. Bryan, I just wanted to clarify. After you pay off the $1 billion of Uri-related debt, $500 million each at the utility and the holdco, you mentioned that that'd be a short-term debt balance at the holdco, and that would be sort of around the $300 million range by the end of the year. That's consistent with your messaging from the prior quarter?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Yes. That's right, Aditya. You know, I just want to reiterate, you know, when you think about our company, in totality, as Sean mentioned in the fourth quarter call, and we both have discussed today, you know, we're really bullish on the utilities growth prospects, with a lot of tailwinds from load growth, emerging investments in the grid and generation. Feel really, really good about the utility over the next five years. As the utility grows, you know, that means the holding company has to pay less and less of the dividend going forward. When you think about that should give you some comfort that our, holding company interest costs, as that grows each year, will grow less and less.
Just to add a little more color to my comments from the last call.
Aditya Gandhi (VP and Equity Research Analyst)
Perfect. Thanks for clarifying that.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Please stand by for our last question. Our last question comes from Shahriar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Your line is open.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Hi, team. It's me again. Just had a couple of quick follow-ups. Just to kind of confirm on the RFPs, you mentioned that there's no near-term CapEx that's affected by. Just thinking about if there's some delays in kind of the magnitude versus the original thinking, are you planning to kind of offset or flex somewhere else in the CapEx plan?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. Constantine, is your question, make sure I understand it correctly, but is your question, where is the capital expenditures associated with these RFPs?
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Yes. If the delays and the refiling of the IRP would impact the existing capital plan at all?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. No. I, you know, I think what, you know, what we said is, you know, we have a lot of opportunities. This is opportunity rich, and we're allocating capital, and just really fueling this growth engine we have. It, you know, the timing of this, of these RFPs and the results and that sort of thing doesn't really impact or change our plans because we have tremendous opportunities to invest and continue to grow our company.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Excellent. You mentioned that kind of some of the outcomes and the economics that you've seen weren't necessarily palatable to your kind of original request. Just curious if you can share how has the commodity volatility in both directions, especially on the positive side this year, impacted your thinking on preferred mix?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. We're certainly pleased that we've seen a pullback in natural gas prices. That certainly helped and relieved some of the pressure from fuel costs to our customers, so we like that. You know, when we're evaluating this and making our decisions, while we're cognizant of the current commodity price environment, you know, we're taking a long-term view. We're factoring in a long-term view of prices and taking a long-term view of what we think potential regulations could be as well from the EPA. It's a very thorough analysis.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Excellent. Thank you for the follow-up.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
All right. Thanks, Constantine. Have a great day.
Constantine Lednev (Equity Research Analyst)
Yeah.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. At this time, I would now like to turn it back to Sean for closing remarks.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thank you, Hope. Thank everybody for joining us this morning. Thank you for your interest in the company, and I hope everyone has a wonderful day.
Operator (participant)
Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.