OGE Energy - Q2 2024
August 7, 2024
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Operator (participant)
Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the OGE Energy Corp. 2024 second quarter earnings and business update call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Jason Bailey, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Jason Bailey (Director of Investor Relations)
Thank you, Hope, and good morning everyone, and welcome to our call. With me today, I have Sean Trauschke, our Chairman, President, and CEO, and Bryan Buckler, our CFO. In terms of the call today, we will first hear from Sean, followed by an explanation from Bryan of financial results. Finally, as always, we will answer your questions. I would like to remind you that this conference is being webcast, and you may follow along at oge.com. In addition, the conference call and accompanying slides will be archived following the call on that same website. Before we begin the presentation, I'd like to direct your attention to the safe harbor statement regarding forward-looking statements. This is an SEC requirement for financial statements and simply states that we cannot guarantee forward-looking financial results, but this is our best estimate to date.
I will now turn the call over to Sean for his opening remarks. Sean?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thank you, Jason. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. It's certainly great to be with you. The second quarter of the year delivered solid results, and we are ahead of plan for the year. This morning, we reported consolidated earnings of $0.51 per share, including $0.54 per share for OG&E, and a holding company loss of $0.03 per share. Before we get underway, I do want to recognize our team. We have experienced our share of severe weather this spring and summer, and as they always do, our team's response was quick, and it was safe. We do that for our customers every day, and we answer the call for mutual assistance to restore electricity to other companies' customers when we travel away from home.
Our teams stay focused on our North Star to generate, transmit, and distribute reliable and affordable electricity every day, and I'm proud of all of them. With that, let's move on to the business at hand. Our second quarter delivered solid operational, customer, and financial results. With weather-normalized demand for electricity up 5.8% year to date, we are confident in our guidance for the year and expect to be in the top half of the range. With regard to the Oklahoma rate review, pending before the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, that process is moving forward. Last week, the ALJ recommended our uncontested settlement for approval, and we anticipate a final order in the coming months.
A number of factors in the settlement benefit our customers, including an increase in our SmartHours discount for seniors, additional funds for forestry and vegetation management, which our customers regularly ask us to prioritize. In this time last year, our rates were 40% below the national average and the lowest in both states. Then in May of this year, we reduced the Oklahoma fuel factor, meaning year-over-year impact to customer summer bills would be $25 less per month, creating even more headroom. We've issued RFPs in support of our current Integrated Resource Plan and look forward to working through those. Our plan is to incrementally layer in generation capacity through a combination of new generation, continued plan upgrades, and energy efficiency and demand response.
Speaking of energy efficiency and demand response, our new energy efficiency filing in Oklahoma last month reflects increased support for energy efficiency and demand response programs to economically drive 337 MW of energy and demand savings over the next five years. This doubles the contribution to capacity reductions from these programs. Our strong load growth is driven by consistent customer growth exceeding 1%. This momentum is driven by continued economic growth and expansion in communities across our service area. Recent announcements reflect both geographic diversity, from Van Buren, Arkansas, to Seminole, Oklahoma, and industries as diverse as manufacturing, aerospace, and defense. Each expansion brings new residential and small business customers as well. Our low rates continue to make Oklahoma and western Arkansas attractive to a number of industries, including data centers.
While we don't have anything to announce today, as we continue discussions with several potential projects, we continue to work through generation and transmission capacity and availability as we determine the right regulatory construct to support these projects. All the success we experience today is underpinned by our commitment to drive economic expansion. We put a stake in the ground years ago, and we continue to see dividends from those investments. So far this year, the 10 new projects our team announced represent nearly 20,000 new jobs. And the nation is watching and recognizes the benefits of expanding and relocating to our service area. And just in the last year, The Wall Street Journal recognized Oklahoma City as the fifth hottest job market. Forbes ranked Oklahoma City as the second-best metro for young professionals. U.S. News & World Report listed Oklahoma City as the third most resilient housing market.
Unemployment in both Oklahoma and Arkansas remains well below the national average. Our customer growth aligns well with our efforts to deepen relationships with our customers, offering them new self-service technologies, and providing them additional tools and resources to manage their energy usage and monthly bills. Investments in affordability and reliability provide direct benefit to our customers and improve our overall performance. Our new self-service technology in our mobile app, online and in the IVR, have driven customer calls down 19% year-over-year, lowering costs and improving the experience. The great enhancements we're making provide more reliable and resilient electric service for customers with fewer and shorter outages. As I wrap up my comments, I hope you'll take away that our sustainable business model that begins with low rates is the foundation to attract new customers, which leads to revenue growth, technology expansion, and efficiencies across our business.
This virtuous cycle sustains momentum, sustains momentum for our customers, it sustains momentum for our communities, momentum for our employees, and momentum to you, our shareholders. With that, thank you, and now I'll turn the call over to Bryan. Bryan?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Thank you, Sean. Thank you, Jason, and good morning, everyone. Let's start on slide 6 and discuss second quarter 2024 results. On a consolidated basis, second quarter net income was $102 million, or $0.51 per diluted share, compared to $88 million or $0.44 per share in the same period, 2023. In the core business, the electric company achieved net income of $109 million, or $0.54 per diluted share, compared to $92 million or $0.46 per share in the same period, 2023. The increase was primarily driven by exceptional load growth and warmer than normal weather. These favorable drivers were partially offset by expected increased depreciation related to our capital investments.
Other operations, including our holding company, reported a loss of $7 million or $0.03 per diluted share in the second quarter, compared to a loss of $4 million or $0.02 per share in the same period, 2023. The increase in net loss was primarily due to higher interest expense. I will discuss our updated expectations for full year 2024 consolidated EPS in a moment. Let's move to slide 7 and look at load results. When we came into this year, we felt our actual results for the full year could indeed outpace the projected robust assumption of 3%-5% weather-normalized growth we shared with you in February. With exceptional year-to-date load growth through June of 5.8%, we are now confident in increasing our full-year load growth projection range to 4%-6%.
We consistently talk about our sustainable business model, where we leverage our low rates, reliable service, and business and economic development activities to attract new businesses to our service area. Our low rates are a significant driver of load expansion when compared to other electric companies across the country. We envision our low rates continuing to drive this great growth to our service area for years to come. I will now go over some details related to our second quarter load results. Our customer count continued to expand nicely at a 1.2% clip in the second quarter, and this, combined with robust economic expansion in Oklahoma and Arkansas, led to extraordinary load growth of 6.7% compared to the second quarter of 2023. This marks one of the largest year-over-year growth rates in our company's history, and each customer class is contributing.
A key data point to underscore the strength of these results is that each class showed year-over-year growth this quarter of over 2%. Now, let's address our full year's earnings expectations on slide 8. We are reaffirming our consolidated EPS guidance previously issued in February. Given our remarkable load results in the first half of the year, we now expect EPS to be in the top half of our 2024 consolidated range of $2.06-$2.18 per share. Okay, let's wrap up on slide 9. Our only financing transaction to be completed for the remainder of the year is at the electric company, where we plan to access the debt capital markets for $350 million in the third quarter to fund our previously disclosed capital investment plan and for general corporate purposes.
Zooming out, we remain confident in our company's ability to deliver 5%-7% consolidated EPS growth each year of our five-year plan, and we continue to be pleased with our financial position. We have one of the strongest balance sheets in the industry. Our current five-year capital plan requires no external equity to maintain our estimated credit metric of 17% FFO to debt each year of the plan. And as a reminder, we have no fixed rate maturities until 2027. Before we open the line for Q&A, let me summarize today's message. The first half of this year's financial results are ahead of plan, and given our excellent load growth, this allows us to point to to the top half of our 2024 EPS guidance range.
The pillars of our business are formidable, with dynamic load growth, prospering communities, and constructive regulation, all backed by a strong balance sheet and the relentless dedication of our employees. That concludes our prepared remarks, and we will now open the line for your questions.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Hope, are you with us? Hope, can you hear us?... Participants, if you'll just wait a moment and see if we can reestablish connection.
Operator (participant)
Hello, everybody. I'm so sorry, that just went down. At this time, we will conduct the Q&A session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Shahriar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Your line is now open.
Shahriar Pourreza (Senior Managing Director in Energy, Power, and Utilities)
Hey, guys. Good morning.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Hey, good morning.
Shahriar Pourreza (Senior Managing Director in Energy, Power, and Utilities)
Good morning. Good morning, Sean. Just, congrats on the results, obviously, pointing to the top half. Are you seeing any strong July, August weather component there? And just kind of more importantly, does that kind of imply a level of O&M contingency going back into the back half of the year, so potential tailwind for next year?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Sure. So great question. So, you know, here in Oklahoma and Arkansas, in July and August, it's hot, right? So there's, there's not a ton of upside there, to be quite honest with you, but, it's hot. And, but as we've said consistently, we're managing the business for long term. We're going to deliver on our earnings commitments, and, we've got a lot of flexibility in our plan, and we move things around all the time. But I want you to, you know, hear me that we're doing that for the long term. We're not doing it for a particular quarter, but we're in really good shape for the year, and our confidence really doesn't have anything to do with July and August.
Shahriar Pourreza (Senior Managing Director in Energy, Power, and Utilities)
Got it. And just on the O&M side, maybe just a question for, for Bryan there, obviously. But, like, just on the O&M side, Bryan, are you kind of pulling some O&M forward, just given the, the strong start and how you're going to end the year? So should we be thinking about potentially a tailwind on the O&M side as we're bridging from this year to 2025?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Hey, Shar. Good morning.
Shahriar Pourreza (Senior Managing Director in Energy, Power, and Utilities)
Hey, Bryan.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
You know, you know, first of all, for 2024, it is in excellent shape, and as we pointed to in our comments, it's primarily driven by this exceptional load growth we're seeing. You know, we're going to stay focused on operations and the reliable care of our system. When it comes to 2025, there may be a little bit of room there to move some O&M around, Shar, but what we're really focused on is, as Sean mentioned, the long term, hitting 2025, 2026. We're in a great position for 2024. It allows us to go ahead and plan ahead across the board. And, you know, we look at capital investments as well and all the other areas we stay focused on.
And so I think 2025 is in great shape, more based on the fundamentals of the business, the load growth, the strong balance sheet. And so we're really not in need, if you will, of pulling forward O&M.
Shahriar Pourreza (Senior Managing Director in Energy, Power, and Utilities)
Okay, perfect. And then just on obviously, you know, you raised your load growth expectations. I guess maybe a little bit of a top level, but I guess, how are these higher expectations maybe changing the calculus for the existing generation RFPs and kind of near-term needs? Do you see kind of an opportunity to shift between kind of preferred technology, so CCGT versus simple GT? Any need to potentially recast the net of the IRP? Thanks.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. Thanks, Shar. I don't think that anything we've seen is a surprise to us. We've been consistent in saying this backlog that we see of potential growth coming for many, many years is robust. But it's not necessarily linear, and so, you know, it's difficult to forecast exactly what you're going to see in terms of load growth increases more than a year out, you know, because it matters on what quarter it comes in and things like that. But nothing is-- we anticipated this load growth, and I don't think at this point in time, it changes kind of our direction.
Shahriar Pourreza (Senior Managing Director in Energy, Power, and Utilities)
Got it. Perfect. And then just lastly, Sean, for me, just, congrats on, on the rate case settlement. That's fantastic. But, like, obviously, with the higher load growth and higher CapEx, you know, kind of runway environment that we're going to be seeing, just talk a little bit about just the rate case cycle. Do you need more frequent cases, and would you look to maybe go back to propose any kind of incremental interim mechanism to do, reduce the lag, especially given that the CapEx needs are probably accelerating? Thanks.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Sure. No, great question. Thanks for that. You know, I think it's important that we stay current with our investments and we recover those, so we're going to have a consistent cadence in terms of rate activity in both states. And your second question there, in terms of more real-time tracking mechanisms, yes, we are going to pursue that as well.
Shahriar Pourreza (Senior Managing Director in Energy, Power, and Utilities)
Okay. That was crisp. Thanks, guys. Appreciate the-
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thanks.
Shahriar Pourreza (Senior Managing Director in Energy, Power, and Utilities)
the call. Thanks.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thanks, Shar.
Operator (participant)
Thank you.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Thanks, Shar.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Nicholas Campanella with Barclays. Your line is now open.
Nicholas Campanella (Director)
Hey, good morning.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Morning!
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Hey, good morning, Nick.
Nicholas Campanella (Director)
Hey. So, thanks for all the updates today. You know, I think in the past, you've commented on having, you know, maybe six or so different customer discussions with data centers, and I just wanted to kind of level set on where you stand in those discussions. You know, how real is it that we can maybe potentially see something, you know, come to your service territory or just an announcement in your service territory by year-end? And then just how can that affect your current load forecast as it stands today? Because I know that there's been some things that are happening right now, which is causing you to revise it higher, but I assume, you know, getting a, you know, a large data center customer could even be further pressure higher on this low growth forecast?
Thanks.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, I think that's clearly upside. You know, you listened very well. You're right. We have kind of more than half a dozen or so in various stages of development. I wouldn't put a timeline on it by the end of this year or anything like that. But I think that what's quite remarkable, and Bryan went through that in his comments, is all of this growth we're seeing doesn't include any of the data center work. So, I don't want to take away from the underlying strength of the business itself. We're working through some of those. Certainly, we have to incorporate transmission and generation availability and think about that and make sure that we have the right regulatory construct for those.
And if we get one that we're satisfied with, that supports everything we're trying to do, we'll, we'll be glad to announce it.
Nicholas Campanella (Director)
Just as a follow-up to that, what is the size of your current system versus the maybe average request of the customers that you're seeing today?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
What, what exactly, when you say size of our system, in terms of load, load requirements, or?
Nicholas Campanella (Director)
Yeah, load requirements, peak demand, however you want to frame it. Thank you.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. So we're, we're peaking in the mid-6,000s. And, you know, you could imagine any of these requests could be anywhere between 250 MW and 500 MW.
Nicholas Campanella (Director)
Got it. That, that's helpful. And then I also just wanted to follow up, you know, what are your kind of thoughts on, you know, a formula rate or a PBR framework, for next year as you kind of get out of this case, and just any updated thoughts around that? That's it for me. Thank you.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, you should expect us to continue to pursue some formula rate mechanism in both states. We need to renew that in Arkansas as well.
Nicholas Campanella (Director)
All right.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next call comes from Alex Mortimer with Mizuho Securities. Your line is now open.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Hey, good morning, team.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Hey, good morning.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Morning.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Given the strong weather tailwinds this year, the constructive load growth backdrop expected to continue in the coming years, and then as well, the potential increase in CapEx coming in the new year, is it possible at the base of the 5%-7% EPS CAGR eventually gets changed in the coming years, either to be based off of actual results or some other number?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Bryan, you want to take that one?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Sure. Hey, Alex, good morning. And, you know, when we think about this, five to seven percent, call it six point six percent of growth at the midpoint, we're looking at this as a, you know, meeting that commitment every year. So we're planning 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028 to hit those numbers. And you're right, we have just exceptional load growth. This is the fourth year in a row, so it's not just something we're projecting. We're kind of in the middle of a nice wave, if you will, of load growth. It's been from 2.5% to 3% the last three years. This year, we expect it to be maybe even over 5%. I think you should expect that to continue to be strong in 2025 and beyond.
I've pointed to at least 2% load growth in 2025 through 2028 in past calls. I think there's momentum that we can even beat that. So it's a great question. Capital investments are strong. We got to meet the growth of our customers. So you're right on all those points. So is there upside on the long-term EPS forecast? Potentially. But we're continuing to work through that, and we look forward to having a nice update for you in February.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Wonderful. And then just kind of wrapping up the load growth conversation, obviously continues to look impressive. Are there any factors that you can point to that maybe, in your view, make your load growth unique compared to others in the industry?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
You want me?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Yeah.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
We're looking at each other. Who's going to do it? You know, Alex, I would just say, you know, what is really remarkable, what we're seeing is it's not just some of this manufacturing that we're seeing come to our service territory because of our rates, but the multiplier effect for the ancillary small businesses and residential customers we're seeing. I mean, we're seeing real customer growth occur in our service territory, and it's real. And we've been talking about it, and we're seeing it materialize and, you know, as these businesses continue to prosper, they're expanding. And so, this is solid, solid growth.
Alex Mortimer (Equity Research Associate)
Great. Thank you so much. I'll leave it there.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thanks, Alex.
Operator (participant)
Our next question comes from Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Jefferies. Your line is now open.
Brian Russo (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Yeah. Hi, good morning. It's actually Brian Russo on for Julien.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Hey, good morning, Brian.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Morning, Brian.
Brian Russo (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Good morning, Sean. Good morning, Bryan. Hey, just to follow up on the regulatory strategy. With the incremental load growth forecast, do you think the cadence of rate cases will still be kind of annual with low to mid-single-digit rate increases? Or like the last case, you were able to offset quite a bit of the initial revenue request with about $60 million-$70 million, I think, of offsetting revenue from historical load. You know, how-
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah.
Brian Russo (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
How should we think about this strategy going forward?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
I think you said it very well. I think you should expect us to have a consistent cadence of every year or 18 months, with where we've invested into the load growth, and so we're able to offset the impact to customers with this load growth. And continue to improve the reliability of our system. So I think we're in great shape.
Brian Russo (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Great. And then just to segue into the RFP, are there any opportunities to increase your CapEx outside of the generation needs, you know, with maybe additional headroom from the accelerating load growth?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, I think there's, you know, in terms of, you know, the capital expenditures, it's really driven by the load growth and customer growth we're seeing in our service territory. And like I said, we're investing against that, and that'll be the driver for a lot of our activities. And, you know, the way we think about it is, you know, we're committed to delivering that earnings growth rate we've committed to year after year and for many, many years. And we're committed to the ratings and the balance sheet, and we're committed to this affordability and reliability momentum we've created in our service territory because that's generating the growth. And so we're going to keep all of those in balance.
But with this growth we're seeing and the growth that we're anticipating, it's significant, and we're going to have a lot of opportunities to make investments.
Brian Russo (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Okay. And then just lastly, are there any large projects being considered in your regional transmission footprint that we should maybe be monitoring?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, we're always looking at transmission opportunities, you know, to see if they, you know, produce any value or to our service territory. But nothing that is imminent that we're ready to announce yet.
Brian Russo (Managing Director and Senior Equity Research Analyst)
Great. Thank you very much.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Thanks, Brian.
Operator (participant)
Thank you. Our next question comes from Travis Miller with Morningstar Inc. Your line is now open.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Good morning. Thank you.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Morning.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Morning.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Yeah, sticking on the load growth, popular subjects here. Can you remind us, what is the load growth or long-term load growth in that 5%-7% earnings growth outlook?
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Sure. Hey, Travis, it's Bryan. Good morning. You know, it's a great question because obviously, 6% load growth year-to-date is remarkable. And, you know, it's certainly a testament to the business-friendly environment in Oklahoma and Arkansas, and the dedication of our employees to drive that economic development, and our T&D employees and generation employees to connect it and keep the lights on. So we're very excited about it. What we had in our base plan, the 5%-7%, and Alex asked a question earlier, we're now going to continue to target 5%-7%, and with the tailwinds, we hope to hit somewhere towards the higher end of that range.
But with respect to load growth, I've pointed to, you know, two-- greater than 2% is what we've said for 2025 and beyond. Obviously, there's tailwinds there to beat 2%, potentially substantially in some years. But as Sean mentioned, it's, you know, some of these large loads are a little unpredictable in timing and can be a bit spiky. But I think in all those years, 2025 through 2028, we feel-- sitting here today, we feel really confident in beating that 2%. So we'll give us a couple more quarters, and we'll provide a more full update in February.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay. Got it, and then just sticking on that real quick. If you were to go to 3% or 4% and saw that as a sustainable load growth, what does that do to earnings in general, earnings growth in general? What's that kind of link? Even if you can't quantify it qualitatively, does 2% move earnings growth 1%, long-term earnings growth 1%, stuff like that.
Bryan Buckler (CFO)
Yeah, you know, kind of the way I think about it, it's a good sensitivity to carry around in your pocket maybe, is that a 1% incremental load across the board equates to about $0.05 of EPS. And perhaps even more importantly, you know, that equates to about a 0.5% reduction in customer rates. So that's just really helpful as we go into our rate cases. It frees up, of course, more capital to deploy in the T&D business or on generation assets. But those are some rough numbers that I hope help you.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Yeah, that's great. Thanks a lot. And then one quick high-level question: What do you see right now as the biggest hurdle to connecting some of these large loads, whether it's manufacturing or data centers? Is it regulatory? Is it system access? What's the big hurdle that you're seeing as you're trying to hook up more of this, especially the C&I load?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah, I think as you think about some of these significant load opportunities, you know, obviously, you know, these large loads, these large facilities, they have, you know, similar supply chain, lead times that the rest of us have, right? So there's, you know, just trying to forecast this, plan this, and then do it in a thoughtful way. Obviously, making sure that you've got access, capabilities and, capacity from a generation and transmission standpoint to serve that, that takes time to create.... And then I would say the last point is to make sure that you've got the right regulatory construct such that all the costs and expenses are shared equitably across your, rate classes.
Travis Miller (Senior Equity Analyst)
Okay, great. That's very helpful. Thanks so much.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Take care, Travis.
Operator (participant)
As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. Our next question comes from Paul Fremont with Ladenburg Thalmann & Co. Your line is now open.
Paul Fremont (Managing Director in Equity Research)
Hey, guys. Congratulations. I guess my first question is the energy efficiency filing that you guys just made, is that reflected in the DSM numbers that you provided in the last IRP, or is that incremental to that?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Well, that's reflective of those numbers as well. That's consistent.
Paul Fremont (Managing Director in Equity Research)
Okay. And then, I guess if I look at the, at the IRP and the, and the deficiency in terms of capacity, in the past, you guys have indicated that you've got concerns in terms of bill inflation and that you're looking to do, maybe sort of a 100 MW of additional construction per year. Has that changed at all, or do you expect that you would end up building a significantly higher portion of the capacity shortfall that you were projecting in your 2024 IRP?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yeah. Thanks, Paul. This is Sean. You know, I think I was expressing that 100 MW-150 MW a year. That was my wishful thinking. You know, I was really trying to make the point that our strategy is gonna be to layer in these capacity additions continually over a number of years versus having it all come in in one very large investment and create that immediate impact from a customer standpoint. So that was really. I was trying to just draw the distinction between, we're gonna do this incrementally over time. So obviously, the energy efficiency and demand response efforts we're making, not just in this new filing, but what we've done this year is incremental, is helpful.
We're always looking at our existing fleet, you know, for whether there's an economic opportunity for a turbine upgrade or things like that, where you can get incremental megawatts. You've got repowering opportunities. So we're looking at all of those things in addition to, you know, adding new generation. But the goal is not to get in a position where we've got to make a very, very large investment in any one particular year.
Paul Fremont (Managing Director in Equity Research)
Okay. So does that, I mean, does that mean that we should assume that some of that shortfall that's been identified in your IRP will go to third parties and not to, and not to OGE, or am I misunderstanding that?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Well, I don't think you should assume that at all. It's my preference that we own this and that we operate it. One of the big learnings we took out of Winter Storm Uri is, where we had difficulty was where we were relying on others. So, we think we're pretty good at this, and it's our intent to own those and operate those. What I would suggest to you, there's a lot of assumptions in the IRP. Some were conservative, some were probably, as we look back, maybe too aggressive. Nevertheless, when we complete the RFPs, we'll communicate all that, and you'll see it. But what I'm trying to convey is we're not waiting on the IRPs. We're being proactive.
We're working on these capacity reductions in terms of energy efficiency and demand response, and we're continually looking to get additional megawatts out of the existing assets we own today.
Paul Fremont (Managing Director in Equity Research)
So I mean, so if I look at the, at the 600 MW of shortfall that were identified in your IRP, that were incremental to sort of the, the projects that you've identified so far, is it safe then to assume that, that you would expect to construct all of that yourself?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
We would expect to own all of that ourselves.
Paul Fremont (Managing Director in Equity Research)
Yes?
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Yes.
Paul Fremont (Managing Director in Equity Research)
Okay. Great. Thank you very much.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Right. Thank you, Paul.
Operator (participant)
I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Sean Trauschke for closing remarks.
Sean Trauschke (Chairman, President, and CEO)
Well, thank you, Hope, and I just want to thank everybody for your interest and your engagement on the call today. I hope you all have a wonderful day. Thank you.
Operator (participant)
Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.