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POTBELLY CORP (PBPB)·Q2 2025 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q2 2025 delivered modest top-line and EPS beats versus consensus, with total revenue $123.7M (+3.4% y/y) and GAAP diluted EPS $0.08; adjusted diluted EPS was $0.09, shop-level margin expanded to 16.7% and adjusted EBITDA reached $9.6M, near the high end of company guidance .
- Guidance raised: FY25 same-store sales to 2.0%-3.0% (from 1.5%-2.5%) and adjusted EBITDA to $34-$35M (from $33-$34M); 3Q25 introduced with same-store sales of 3.25%-4.25% and adjusted EBITDA $9.0-$10.0M .
- Operating drivers: positive traffic (+1.1%) and pricing (+2.7% gross price) supported comps; commodity deflation (~40bps) aided food cost, while occupancy efficiency and disciplined G&A helped margin expansion .
- Strategic catalysts: eight openings and 54 franchise commitments in Q2 (open+committed now 816), new website/app launch, and continued digital penetration (~41% of shop sales) position the brand for accelerated growth and investor re-rating .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- Shop-level margin expanded to 16.7% (+100bps y/y), driven by commodity deflation and sales leverage; adjusted EBITDA rose 13% y/y to $9.6M, near the high end of guidance .
- Unit growth and pipeline: eight openings in Q2 and 54 franchise commitments, lifting open+committed shops to 816; CEO: “growth engine…leveraging our Five-Pillar Operating Strategy” .
- Digital and product innovation: ~41% of shop sales were digital; new website/app launched in late June, plus menu additions (prime rib steak sandwich) sustaining momentum .
Management quote: “Our results truly reflect the growth engine we’ve been building… The future is bright for Potbelly” .
What Went Wrong
- GAAP net income down y/y to $2.5M from $34.7M due to prior-year $31.3M valuation allowance release; diluted EPS fell to $0.08 from $1.13 on the same tax comp .
- G&A grew to 10.8% of revenue (up 90bps y/y) on payroll, bonus accruals, and consulting/legal costs; labor held at 28.0% of sales, indicating limited labor relief .
- Mix headwind: despite 2.7% gross price, average check +2.1% and mix -0.6%; EBITDA consensus comparisons are less informative given non-GAAP usage, but highlight potential investor confusion around adjusted vs. unadjusted EBITDA .
Financial Results
Headline P&L and Key Metrics
Actual vs Wall Street Consensus (S&P Global)
Values marked with * are from S&P Global. Values retrieved from S&P Global.
Note: The company emphasizes adjusted EBITDA; S&P “EBITDA Consensus Mean” may reflect unadjusted EBITDA and is not directly comparable to “Adjusted EBITDA” disclosed .
Revenue Breakdown
KPIs and Operating Drivers
Guidance Changes
Context: Q2 actual adjusted EBITDA was $9.6M, near the high end of Q2 guidance ($8.25–$9.75M) set in May .
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- CEO: “Adjusted EBITDA near the high-end of our quarterly guidance range… focus remains on… menu innovation, investments in… digital assets, growing and modernizing our shop footprint, and exercising prudent cost controls” .
- CFO: “Same store sales… 3.2%, attributable to a 1.1% increase in transactions and a 2.1% increase in average check… food costs 26.3%… commodity deflation of 40bps… shop-level margins 16.7%” .
- CEO on digital relaunch: “We launched our new website and mobile app… one click ordering… quick add… streamlined navigation… further personalize and streamline the customer experience” .
Q&A Highlights
- Franchise pipeline realization and incentives: Visibility to 50+ franchise openings next year; “50/50” incentive encourages early openings; multi-year developers model benefits across later sites .
- Company-owned densification: Targeted 10–20 per year where economics and construction costs align; will not crowd out franchise growth .
- Comps decomposition and cadence: Q2 comps broke down to +1.1% transactions and +2.1% average check (gross price +2.7%, mix -0.6%); momentum strengthened through the quarter despite holiday shifts .
- Commodities/tariffs: Limited tariff exposure; forecast food inflation ~<2% Q3 and just over 2% Q4; baskets largely locked (99% Q3; ~85% for year) .
- Balance sheet & buybacks: Debt eliminated; capital prioritized to tech stack, PDCX, remodels, and opportunistic repurchases .
Estimates Context
- Q2 2025: Revenue $123.7M vs $122.6M consensus (modest beat); GAAP diluted EPS $0.08 vs $0.088 consensus (slight miss) .
- Coverage depth: 4 estimates each for EPS and revenue*.
- Prior periods: Q1 2025 revenue $113.7M vs $111.7M consensus (beat); EPS $(0.00) vs $(0.02) consensus (beat)* .
Values marked with * are from S&P Global. Values retrieved from S&P Global.
Implications: Street models likely to lift FY revenue and SSS assumptions on raised guidance; EPS revisions should reflect margin expansion and unit pacing, with attention to differentiated adjusted vs GAAP frameworks.
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Guidance raise and Q3 outlook are incremental positives; momentum in transactions, pricing discipline, and benign commodities underpin margin trajectory .
- Accelerating franchise commitments (54 in Q2) and eight openings highlight a durable growth algorithm and long runway to ~2,000 shops; track conversion cadence and early-opening incentives .
- Digital platform rebuild and high digital mix (~41%) support frequency and check growth; watch for personalization features to enhance promo efficiency and loyalty monetization .
- Operational leverage visible: 100bps y/y shop-level margin expansion; occupancy efficiency; continued cost control can support adjusted EBITDA delivery near updated FY guide .
- Capital allocation: debt removal improves flexibility; disciplined investments in PDCX and remodels should drive throughput and returns; buybacks provide opportunistic support .
- Near-term trading set-up: modest top-line beat and FY guide raise are supportive; monitor franchise opening cadence and Q3 SSS delivery (3.25%–4.25%) as potential catalysts .
- Medium-term thesis: A franchise-focused, digitally enabled, menu-innovating brand with expanding unit base and improving shop-level economics; execution on pipeline conversion and ROI from tech/remodels remains key .