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PetMed Express - Earnings Call - Q3 2025

February 10, 2025

Executive Summary

  • Q3 FY2025 revenue declined 19% YoY to $53.0M as management intentionally pulled back advertising during a highly promotional holiday period; gross margin expanded 80 bps YoY to 28.1% on lower discounting and favorable mix, and adjusted EBITDA reached $2.0M vs $0.9M a year ago.
  • Sequentially, revenue fell vs Q2 ($59.6M → $53.0M) while margins compressed modestly (29.1% → 28.1%) but remained above Q1 levels; adjusted EBITDA held near Q2 levels despite lower top line as cost actions reduced G&A by ~20% YoY to $10.8M.
  • Management reiterated transformation priorities (marketing reset, tech stack modernization, SKU optimization, last-mile delivery), citing 63k new shipped customers, AI-enabled call center productivity, and replatformed AutoShip; Q4 will see stepped-up marketing and CX investments, with no formal quantitative guidance provided.
  • Balance sheet remains debt-free with $50.1M cash; inventory reduced to $11.8M and turns improved (1.5 in Q3 vs 1.1 in Q2), supporting working capital discipline; a shareholder rights plan adopted in Dec-2024 provides takeover defense during the turnaround.

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

  • What Went Well

    • Margin and EBITDA resilience: Gross margin expanded 80 bps YoY to 28.1% and adjusted EBITDA improved to $2.0M (vs $0.9M YoY) despite lower sales, reflecting lower discounting and operating cost reductions.
    • Cost discipline: G&A fell to $10.8M (-19.7% YoY), aided by lower stock-based comp and payroll; CEO highlighted a $2.6M YoY G&A reduction and progress toward ~$5M annualized PetCareRx integration savings.
    • Operational/tech execution: Replatformed AutoShip in mid-Nov, launched updated mobile apps and BNPL, implemented AI for workforce management, and improved Inventory turns to 1.5 (Q3) from 1.1 (Q2) and 0.9 last year; gross and shipped AOV increased YoY to $108 and $97, respectively.
  • What Went Wrong

    • Top-line contraction: Net sales declined 19% YoY to $53.0M (and sequentially from $59.6M in Q2), largely due to an intentional ~$2.8M reduction in gross ad spend and a highly promotional holiday environment.
    • Volume/traffic conversion: Despite improved visits and PDP views post-refresh, conversion lagged; management cited competitive intensity and prioritized margin over promotions during the quarter.
    • Macro/category pressure: Ongoing consumer pressure, fewer vet visits, and lower prescription compliance weighed on demand; management is pivoting to capture younger cohorts but acknowledged this will take time.

Transcript

Operator (participant)

Greetings and welcome to PetMed Express's third quarter financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the full presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Reed Anderson with ICR. You may begin.

Reed Anderson (Head of Investor Relations)

Thank you, and welcome to the PetMed Express Fiscal Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Certain information included during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. That may involve a number of risks and uncertainties. These statements are based on our beliefs as well as assumptions we have used based on information currently available to us. Because these statements reflect our current views concerning future events, these statements involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Actual results could differ materially from those projected. There can be no assurance that any forward-looking results will occur or be realized.

Nothing contained in this presentation is or should be relied upon as a representation or warranty as to any future matter, including any matter in respect of the operations or business or financial condition of PetMeds. PetMeds undertakes no obligation to update publicly these forward-looking statements based on subsequent events, except as may be required by applicable law, regulation, or other competent legal authority. We have identified various risk factors associated with our operations in our most recent annual report and other filings for the Securities and Exchange Commission. Now, let me turn the call over to our CEO and President, Sandra Campos. Sandra?

Sandra Campos (CEO and President)

Thank you, Reed, and welcome to everyone joining our call this afternoon. Following my remarks, Robyn will provide a detailed overview of our financial results, after which we'll open the lines for your questions. Over the past nine months, I have emphasized that our focus remains steadfast on the strategic initiatives pivotal to repositioning PetMeds and PetCareRx for long-term success. I have clearly outlined our vision to position PetMeds as a leader in consumer pet healthcare. While we're still in the early stages of this transformation and have much more work ahead, I am pleased to report that we have made significant progress in validating our strategic direction. We're confident that the actions we're taking will drive differentiation and sustainable growth. Our highest priority has been to return the company to profitability.

We achieve this by implementing cost-cutting measures and consolidation strategies to integrate PetCareRx operations into the PetMeds organization, targeting $5 million in annualized savings, and we remain on track to meet this milestone. For this quarter, Q3, we achieved $2 million in adjusted EBITDA, representing a $1.1 million improvement year over year, while lowering G&A expenses by $2.6 million compared to last year. As we continue to execute our turnaround strategy, we remain committed to driving shareholder value through growing our customer base, operational discipline, and financial efficiency. At PetMeds, we serve three core communities. First, our pet parents. We're continuously enhancing the digital shopping experience to provide convenient access to pet health solutions. Second, our veterinarian partners. Our investments in Rx approval efficiency through an optimized Veterinary Portal are driving increased adoption and streamlined workflows.

The pets, the dogs, cats, and horses that we love and care for. Innovation is at the heart of our approach, ensuring that we offer proven, premium health solutions across all categories and life stages. Expanding our customer base and increasing market share remains a top priority. To grow and acquire customers as a digital retailer, we require a modernized tech stack and a seamless shopping experience that meets evolving customer expectations. We have made meaningful progress in this area, including website and mobile enhancements, where we executed a full website refresh in November and also relaunched our iOS and Android mobile apps. We implemented Buy Now Pay Later as a new payment option at checkout, expanding on affordable and accessible choices for our consumers.

In collaboration with our Veterinary Advisory Board, we continue to enhance our Veterinary Portal and also launched pethealthmd.com, an educational platform offering expert-backed pet health guidance. These improvements led to 84,000 gross new customers or 63,000 new customers that had orders shipped during the quarter. Our gross order average order value, or AOV, increased by 7% at $108 versus $101 last year, while our shipped order AOV rose by 4.3% at $97 versus $93 year over year. We are committed to pet health and wellness through product differentiation and best-in-class customer service. Our SKU optimization strategy ensures that we offer comprehensive health solutions across all life stages while maintaining strong margins and growth thresholds. To enhance efficiency, we eliminated 4,000 underperforming SKUs, making room for high-value products that align with our strategy and also resonate with consumers.

Notably, our inventory efficiency has improved, with inventory turn rising to 1.5 in Q3 compared to 1.1 in Q2 and 0.9 last year. This improvement comes alongside a 66% reduction in total inventory on hand, totaling $11.8 million at the end of our third quarter versus $34.6 million last year. During Q3, we advanced our customer call center operations by integrating an AI-driven workforce management tool to flex and scale our agent population and adapt to changing volumes. This helped us improve our key metrics, such as increased sales per agent of 18.8% and a 3.4% increase in AOV, average order value, for orders driven by the call center. During our last earnings call, I highlighted our focus on retention and the operational upgrades that laid the foundation for future growth.

While we intended to ramp up performance marketing efforts in this quarter, we encountered a highly competitive and promotional holiday environment, particularly between Black Friday and year-end. With real-time insights, we made the strategic decision to prioritize margin protection over aggressive promotions, ending the quarter with $2.8 million less in gross advertising spend year over year. As a result, our sales and new customer acquisition during that period fell short of initial expectations. However, this intentional pivot was necessary in order to maintain financial discipline. Recognizing the need for a marketing strategic reset, we are refining our approach to ensure sustainable, profitable growth. Our top-of-funnel initiatives, such as radio and connected TV, continue to promote our "Care You Trust" message and establish brand authority and brand awareness.

This is a long-term investment that we've recently begun and includes things like sports team partnerships, podcasts, billboards, and local pet adoption events, all of which we've done in this quarter. We are refining acquisition strategies by rolling out a new email design system and creating stronger segmentation, personalization, and dynamic content across our paid platforms. Early indicators show promise, with revenue per email increasing 9% in the month of January. Engagement rates have increased quarter over quarter. That would be inclusive of open rate, click-through rate, revenue per email, through stronger content and more relevant branding. We believe this is a strong indicator of future conversion improvements. Beyond customer-facing upgrades, we have strengthened our core systems with strategic technology investments to ensure a resilient and secure digital ecosystem for customer data and privacy.

Over the past seven months, we resolved OMS issues that previously impacted performance and continue to modernize our tech stack. In mid-November, we successfully replatformed our AutoShip recurring subscription program without disruption and have seen improvements in AutoShip sign-ups and credit card rejection rates. Although still in early age tracking, our new website performance shows PDP views increased by 30%, bounce rates declined by 6.5 basis points, and channel visits increased 7.6% year over year. This growth in visits was offset by lower conversion, and we are actively addressing those conversion rate challenges through search functionality improvements, PDP enhancements, and visible promotions. Looking ahead, while the competitive landscape remains dynamic, we are executing a disciplined transformation that prioritizes the customer experience from order placement to last-mile delivery while simultaneously enhancing the infrastructure necessary to support this. We believe these efforts will drive sustained growth, customer loyalty, and increased shareholder value.

In the short term, we anticipate increased investments to enhance the customer engagement, customer acquisition, and the underlying infrastructure needed. We will continue to strengthen vendor partnerships and expand our portfolio with science-backed veterinary-recommended products across our pharmacy, Rx products, OTC over-the-counter, and our food categories. We remain focused on capturing our share of the companion animal health market by refining our customer experience, optimizing our product mix, and strengthening the customer acquisition strategies. As we build a stronger, more efficient organization, we stay true to our core purpose, ensuring pets have homes and live healthier, happier lives. This commitment extends beyond our business as we actively support shelters, facilitate adoption events, and provide aid to pet communities impacted by the Los Angeles wildfires, reinforcing our dedication to pet welfare and the people who care for them.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Robyn for a more detailed review of our financial results.

Robyn D’Elia (CFO)

Thank you, Sandra. I will now provide an update on third-quarter fiscal year 2025 results for the period ending December 31, 2024. Net sales were $53 million compared to $65.3 million in the same period last year, a 19% decline, primarily driven by a 34% reduction in gross advertising as we rebalanced for profitability. We welcomed approximately 63,000 new customers who received an order from us this quarter. Gross profit was $14.9 million versus $17.9 million last year. As a percent of sales, gross profit this year was 28.1%, an 80 basis point improvement compared to the prior year quarter due to a favorable sales mix and lower discount activity, similar to what we saw in Q2. General and administrative expenses for the third quarter were $10.8 million versus $13.4 million last year, a 19.7% decrease.

This year-over-year improvement was driven by a decrease in stock-based compensation expense, a decrease in payroll and payroll-related expense, and to a lesser extent, a decrease in credit card processing fees driven by lower sales. Our advertising expenses for the third quarter were $3 million compared to $5.8 million last year. This decrease can be mainly attributed to lower gross media spend and a higher proportion of that spend being funded by third-party partners. As Sandra mentioned, we purposely pulled back our marketing efforts to reset our marketing foundation and improve profitability for the quarter. Net loss for the third quarter was $700,000 or 3 cents per diluted share, a meaningful improvement compared to the net loss of $2 million or 10 cents per diluted share for the same period last year. Adjusted EBITDA of $2 million compared to $900,000 in the prior year period.

Our balance sheet remained strong, and as of December 31, 2024, we had $50 million of cash and cash equivalents and no debt. We would now like to open the call for questions, and then after that, Sandra will provide some concluding remarks. Operator.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Erin Wright with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Erin Wright (Analyst)

Great. Thanks. I wanted a quick housekeeping one before I get into it. On the new customer or customer count numbers, I guess, do you have—I just want to make sure we're comparing apples to apples kind of on a year-over-year basis. But do you have growth rates around those and how you're kind of defining the different categories from a customer standpoint?

Sandra Campos (CEO and President)

From a customer perspective, on the new customer, what we shared is that we had 63,000 new customers in this quarter with shipped orders. Correct.

Erin Wright (Analyst)

Okay. Okay. Just wanted to clarify that. And then on the SKU count rationalization, so does that meaningfully impact your overall kind of revenue growth, or have you quantified that? I mean, I assume it's underperforming SKUs, but how do we think about that and then also the flow-through from a mixed perspective?

Sandra Campos (CEO and President)

Yes. It actually did not really impact the revenues. A lot of those SKUs happened to be SKUs that were drop-shipped from drop-ship vendors as well. They were not impactful. It was very minimal in terms of any impact over the year. For the most part, when we looked at the SKU optimization, it was about tracking to products that actually had consistent sales over three, four, five, and six months' time period. Anything beyond that that had not seen consistent sales was where we were reducing. It was definitely not impacting our sales.

Erin Wright (Analyst)

Okay. Great. Just thinking about sort of the underlying backdrop in the market, how would you characterize kind of the trends you are seeing from a customer perspective and how they're responding maybe to price increases across kind of pet prescriptions that we've been seeing and hearing about even year to date and how you're thinking about kind of the outlook of the market, just generally speaking? If I could sneak one last one in there, just on the cost savings, obviously, you've executed on that. What's left in terms of the lingering cost savings from the PetCareRx transaction? Thanks.

Sandra Campos (CEO and President)

Let's start with the second one first. As we look at our cost optimization and the strategies that we've employed on folding PetCareRx into the organization, we still have more that we are deliberately working on now. That not only just includes the first phase that we did and executed, which had to do with people, technology, some technology, as well as some outsourced agencies that we were duplicating. In addition to that, now as we go into phase two and the second part of it, it actually is more of the technology reduction consolidation that actually will continue to show an improved balance in terms of what our expenditures are. Do you want to add anything to, Robyn?

Robyn D’Elia (CFO)

No, that's right. That's right. It's a strategy that'll take us over a couple of quarters to execute.

Sorry. Okay. That was question number two. Going back to question number one, it is without a doubt that the customer continues to be pressured. As we know, we're seeing a bit more of stabilization as it relates to adoption and pets in general. We're still seeing that there are reduced visits to the veterinarian. There's some reduced prescriptions. We have not seen our UPTs and Rx and pharmacy actually change from a year ago. They're still buying the same amount of times and frequency per year. It's still about 2.7 times a year that the average prescription—they're coming back to get a prescription again. That fluctuates based on seasonality, especially as we talk about a flea and tick season per se. Yes, they are absolutely pressured in terms of where they're spending, how they're spending.

We are seeing a bit more as it relates to opening price points take over some of the more premium price points. That said, we still have a higher household income consumer who has a household income over $100,000. And that $100,000-$150,000 and $150,000 plus household income is continuing to spend and does not have and is not exhibiting some of the same behavior that other customers are with regards to not being in compliance on the prescription and less spend on their products. That relates specifically to pharmacy.

Erin Wright (Analyst)

Okay. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Meyers with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Ryan Meyers (Analyst)

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Sandra, this is kind of a follow-up from the last question that you had as far as just what you're seeing across your core consumer and them kind of being a higher household income. I mean, we've now seen three consecutive quarters of over double-digit revenue declines. I know you guys are pulling back a little bit on the marketing spend, which obviously is impacting the revenue growth. Can you kind of talk about what else you're seeing here as far as what's driving the softness?

Robyn D’Elia (CFO)

Our softness as it relates to where we've been, and you've heard me talk about this a bit as well, one of the reasons that we actually modernized our website is because we have not captured a younger, more Millennial or Gen Z consumer. As we think about not only what's happening from a consumer behavior standpoint, people are taking longer to have children and/or their pets are becoming their children, and they're spending more on those children or on those pets that are their children, essentially, in the Millennial and Gen Z demographic. We are modernizing. We are fine-tuning our messaging, our content, all of the different platforms in which we are competing so that we can actually capture that customer. That's not where we've been as a business over many years. For us, we're actually transitioning that.

As we transition away from a core customer that may have been a little bit older, that new to 1-800-PetMeds brand, because of all of those many years, obviously, 28 years' worth of great heritage the company has had, we're trying to also make sure that we're capturing the Millennial and Gen Z consumer who is spending, who is focused on more digital experiences, who's buying online, is accustomed to it. That is what you're seeing now. As we've repositioned our marketing and the efforts on marketing that goes into content, it goes into the different channels in which we show up. We know and understand that this is going to take and require multiple touchpoints if the consumer is going to see our brand before they actually start to engage and then convert.

Ryan Meyers (Analyst)

Got it. As we think about the rest of this year and into next year, when you guys are well capitalized with $50 million in cash on the balance sheet, I mean, how are you evaluating potentially investing more heavily into marketing, kind of running more promotions really to try to drive revenue growth back into the business or even just new customer growth back into the business? Any commentary there would be helpful.

Robyn D’Elia (CFO)

Yeah. We definitely think about capital allocation and, of course, how to drive our transformation faster. As Sandra mentioned, right on the marketing front, we are resetting, I would say, the marketing foundation. We want to do it in a way that's smart, that's going to be the most beneficial in terms of the ROI. We have to kind of set the foundation and get ready to go. Additionally, we're investing in our customer experience. It's critically important that we have the right product assortment, we can get to the customer faster, and that the customers have ease of use on our site. We are going to continue to make those foundational investments. We can really, I would say, open the floodgates to some extent, right, and start spending more heavily in the marketing area.

Sandra Campos (CEO and President)

Ryan, I would just add to what Robyn said just to double-click on this point. In order for us to be competitive in today's environment and the consumer expectations is that you're going to get product same day, next day, or within two days. She was just mentioning last-mile delivery as another key target, key focus area for us. We are focused on that customer experience, which has so many different legs to this, and we need to make sure that we are delivering on a timely basis as well. Those investments are coming. We're actually investing in that in this quarter of Q4 as well as starting to increase more on marketing as we go forward.

Ryan Meyers (Analyst)

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. Just to conclude, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I'll now turn the call back over to CEO Sandra Campos for closing remarks.

Sandra Campos (CEO and President)

Thank you. Thank you for the questions, for the time, and the support of PetMeds. We understand that this is a transformation on many levels. It is steady, and the key initiatives that we discussed today are about prioritizing profitability and the customer growth. Lastly, I just want to thank all of our employees for their constant commitment and the dedication to our customers, the pets that we serve, and to our shareholders. We look forward to continuing to update you on our progress during our next conference call. Thank you.

Operator (participant)

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your line at this time. Thank you for your participation.