Robert Ellin
About Robert Ellin
Robert S. Ellin (age 60) serves as Executive Chairman of PodcastOne, Inc. (PODC), having been a director since July 1, 2020 and Executive Chairman since December 14, 2022; he is also CEO and Chairman of LiveOne, Inc., the controlling stockholder of PODC . Ellin holds a BBA from Pace University and has 20+ years in investment/turnaround roles including Managing Director of Trinad Capital, founder/President of Atlantis Equities, and past executive chair/director roles at Mandalay Digital Group . Company performance context: PODC revenues grew from $34.6M (FY2023) to $52.1M (FY2025), net loss improved from -$14.7M to -$6.5M, while EBITDA remained negative; see table below for pay-for-performance framing (values from S&P Global)*.
| Metric | FY 2023 | FY 2024 | FY 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Revenues ($USD) | $34,645,000* | $43,302,000* | $52,119,000* |
| EBITDA ($USD) | -$1,512,000* | -$3,863,000* | -$4,762,000* |
| Net Income - (IS) ($USD) | -$6,967,000* | -$14,732,000* | -$6,458,000* |
| EBITDA Margin (%) | -4.36%* | -8.92%* | -9.14%* |
| Net Income Margin (%) | -20.11%* | -34.02%* | -12.39%* |
| Values retrieved from S&P Global. |
Past Roles
| Organization | Role | Years | Strategic Impact |
|---|---|---|---|
| Mandalay Digital Group, Inc. | Founder; Director (Feb 2005–Sep 2013); Executive Chairman (Dec 2011–Apr 2013) | 2005–2013 | Led public-company governance and strategic growth in mobile/content assets . |
| S&S Industries, Inc. | President | 1996–1998 | Executed LBO; operational leadership in manufacturing supply chain . |
| Atlantis Equities, Inc. | Founder & President | 1990s | Small-cap investments with active board/finance advisory (THQ, Grand Toys, Forward Industries, Majesco, iWon) . |
| LF Rothschild; Lombard Securities | Institutional Sales; Manager of Retail Operations | Prior to 1990s | Capital markets and brokerage management foundation . |
External Roles
| Organization | Role | Years | Strategic Impact |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveOne, Inc. | CEO & Chairman | Since inception | Controls 71.8% of PODC; shared voting/dispositive power over PODC shares; strategic parent ties . |
| Trinad Capital Master Fund Ltd. | Managing Director & Portfolio Manager | Ongoing | Micro-cap activist investment; Ellin deemed control over Trinad-held PODC shares . |
| Cedars-Sinai Hospital (LA) | Board of Governors | Since Mar 2007 | Community and network influence . |
Fixed Compensation
- No separate director compensation is paid to Ellin as Executive Chairman; only non-employee directors receive director RSUs . The 2025 Director Compensation Table reflects no director pay for Ellin .
| Item | FY 2025 |
|---|---|
| Director Compensation Paid to Robert Ellin ($) | — |
Performance Compensation
- No PODC-specific executive compensation (salary/bonus/RSU/option) for Ellin is disclosed; Ellin is not listed among PODC’s Named Executive Officers in the proxy and is not covered by PODC’s NEO compensation tables .
- PODC’s equity program emphasizes RSUs and generally does not grant stock options; grant timing policies avoid blackout windows for options and restrict option timing around material disclosures (RSUs/PSUs may be granted without exercise-price timing issues) .
Equity Ownership & Alignment
| Holder | Shares Beneficially Owned | % of Outstanding | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Robert S. Ellin (and affiliates) | 1,050,022 | 4.0% | Breakdown: 185,000 direct; 506,087 via Trinad Capital; 34,106 via Trinad Capital Management LLC; 324,829 via JJAT Corp; Ellin deemed sole voting/dispositive power; disclaims beneficial ownership except pecuniary interests . |
| LiveOne, Inc. (parent) | 19,761,050 (incl. 1,100,000 warrant shares) | 71.8% | Ellin has shared voting/dispositive power per LiveOne board authority; disclaims beneficial ownership except pecuniary interest . |
- Policy safeguards: No hedging of Company securities; no pledging without preapproval; no option repricing without stockholder approval, supporting alignment and governance discipline .
- Vested vs. unvested/Options: No Ellin RSUs/options at PODC disclosed; PODC generally emphasizes RSUs over options .
Employment Terms
- PODC discloses no employment agreement with Ellin; risk factor explicitly states no current employment agreement with Ellin at PODC (and LiveOne lacks an effective employment agreement with Ellin), elevating retention/transition risk .
- Indemnification: PODC provides full indemnification/limitation of liability to directors/officers per Delaware law and plans to enter individual indemnification agreements post spin-out .
- Non-compete/non-solicit/garden leave/clawbacks: Not disclosed for Ellin; 2022 Equity Incentive Plan includes forfeiture/adjustment mechanics and change-of-control treatment for awards generally .
Board Governance
- Service history: Director since July 1, 2020; Executive Chairman since Dec 14, 2022 .
- Independence: Board comprises 6 of 7 independent directors; Ellin is not independent due to his LiveOne CEO/Chairman role and control relationship .
- Committee roles: Ellin is not a member of the Audit, Nominating, or Compensation Committees; current composition below .
| Name | Audit | Nominating | Compensation |
|---|---|---|---|
| Robert S. Ellin | — | — | — |
| Jay Krigsman | Member | Member | Chair |
| Ramin Arani | Member | Chair | Member |
| James Berk | — | Member | — |
| Patrick Wachsberger | — | — | Member |
| Carolyn Blackwood | — | — | — |
| Jon Merriman | — | — | — |
- Board leadership: Chairman is Ellin; company may combine Chairman/CEO roles in future depending on scale; President serves as PODC’s operational leader .
- Executive sessions: Board designated Jay Krigsman to preside over executive sessions of non-management directors (effective Lead Independent Director function) .
- Attendance: Incumbent directors attended >75% of meetings/committees during FY2025; board acted multiple times by unanimous written consent .
- Director compensation program (for non-employee directors): Annual RSU grants of $90,000 to each independent director, with committee premiums ($10,000 for Audit members +$15,000 to chair; $5,000 for Compensation members +$10,000 to chair), vesting on specified dates; Ellin receives no director pay .
Compensation Structure Analysis
- Cash vs. equity mix: Ellin receives no director cash/RSU compensation; committee compensation paid in RSUs to independent directors only .
- Shift to RSUs: Company emphasizes RSUs over options; no options granted to NEOs in FY2025; explicit policy against option grants around material information and blackout timing .
- Consultant usage: Board intends to engage independent compensation consultants to review director compensation benchmarking and design (FY2026 plan) .
- Discretionary pay: No PODC pay disclosed for Ellin; NEO plans include RSUs and target bonuses for President/CRO .
Related Party Transactions & Red Flags
- Control/parent financing: LiveOne executed senior secured debentures financing; obligations are secured by liens on LiveOne and certain subsidiaries’ assets, including PODC; PODC is a guarantor under the Subsidiary Guarantee and Security Agreement, creating potential creditor claims on PODC assets if LiveOne defaults .
- Overhead & intercompany: LiveOne allocated $1.0M of overhead to PODC in FY2025; related party payables/receivables outstanding; PODC issued 1,315,880 shares in exchange for cost sharing amounts owed, reflecting significant parent-related flows .
- Section 16 compliance: PODC disclosed inadvertent late filings of Form 4s by Ellin (Dec 2, 2024) and Merriman; administrative weakness signal though corrected .
- Lock-up history: Officers/directors were subject to lock-ups around Spin-Out; restrictions have since expired; policy maintains strict insider trading controls .
Performance & Track Record
- Achievements: Extensive history in micro-cap investing and public company leadership; Trinad Capital activism and Atlantis Equities investments in notable small caps .
- PODC financial trajectory: Revenue growth with improving net loss profile; EBITDA remains negative; see performance table above (values from S&P Global)*.
- CEO succession/experience: Ellin’s dual role at LiveOne and chairing PODC provides capital markets and strategic leadership; PODC’s President/CFO manage operations/finance .
Director Compensation (Ellin-Specific)
| Component | Amount | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Annual Director Retainer (Cash) | — | Only non-employee directors are eligible. |
| Annual Director RSUs | — | Ellin (Executive Chairman) does not receive director RSUs. |
| Committee Fees (Cash/Equity) | — | Not applicable (not on committees). |
Equity Ownership & Pledging
- Ownership guidelines: Company maintains restrictive stock ownership and insider trading guidelines, with prohibitions on hedging and pledging without preapproval .
- Pledging status: No pledging by Ellin is disclosed; he disclaims beneficial ownership in affiliate-held shares except pecuniary interest .
Employment & Contracts (Ellin)
- Start date/tenure: Director since July 1, 2020; Executive Chairman since December 14, 2022 .
- Contract term/expiration: No employment agreement at PODC; LiveOne lacks an effective employment agreement with Ellin; no severance/CoC terms disclosed for Ellin at PODC .
- Non-compete/solicit/garden leave: Not disclosed.
- Post-termination consulting: Not disclosed.
Compensation Committee Analysis
- Committee members: Krigsman (Chair), Arani, Wachsberger—all independent per Nasdaq .
- Consultant use: Board anticipates engaging an expert compensation consultant for director pay benchmarking (FY2026) .
- Interlocks: No compensation committee interlocks or insider participation disclosed for FY2025/FY2024 .
Investment Implications
- Alignment vs. control: Ellin’s 4.0% direct/affiliate interest plus LiveOne’s 71.8% stake consolidate control—this can align strategic direction but raises minority shareholder governance risk and independence concerns due to Ellin’s dual role at LiveOne and PODC .
- Retention risk: Absence of a PODC employment agreement for Ellin increases transition/retention uncertainty; PODC explicitly identifies reliance on Ellin as a key risk factor .
- Capital structure exposure: LiveOne’s secured debentures and collateralization of PODC assets introduce cross-entity creditor risk; adverse outcomes at LiveOne could impair PODC operations/assets .
- Insider controls: Strong policy prohibitions on hedging/pledging and no option repricing are positives; however, late Section 16 filings indicate some administrative risk that should be monitored .
- Pay-for-performance: Ellin receives no PODC director compensation, and no PODC-specific executive pay is disclosed; PODC’s performance is improving in net loss terms amid continued negative EBITDA—equity alignment rather than pay incentives appear to be the key lever (values from S&P Global)*.
Notes:
* Values retrieved from S&P Global.